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    Effenberg

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    FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by Effenberg on Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:37 pm

    This thread will be open until they've found him. Please do not let this thread turn into an Otto vs Dutchies hatefest (or any other hatefest), thank you.

    NEWS-

    Hoeness:

    - It can take 2-3 months or 3 weeks.
    - A foreigner is definitely an option.
    - We will not (yet?) approach a coach that is still under contract with another club.
    - Coach has to speak German. Plenty of time for candidates to learn it until July.
    - "We all know the next one has to stick."
    - No contact with either Finke or Lippi.

    Raphael Honigstein article in SZ about Mourinho:

    http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/bundesliga/artikel/414/151037/

    - Bayern is his third favorite option after Barcelona (where Cruyff apparently doesn't want him) and Liverpool.
    - He's expecting a call from Bayern this week.
    - An unlikely option because, you know, he's Mourinho. He would clash with Hoeness/Rummenigge/Kaiser in no time and turn the club into FC Hollywood for good.
    - According to Hoenigstein "he is a playboy who likes to flirt with numerous girls, if only to verify his own status." Well put.

    In my opinion these are other acceptable candidates that are being talked about (in my order of preference):

    - Hiddink (possibly going to Chelsea in summer)
    - Veh
    - Rijkaard

    In my opinion, coaches that should be talked about more:

    - Van Gaal
    - Adriaanse (?) (Dutchies, I remember one of you told me he was great. What's he doing coaching Al-Saad?)

    In my opinion candidates that should not even be discussed:

    - Matthäus (moron)
    - Klinsmann (made people believe he was an actual coach)
    - Klopp (could NOT handle a big club, plus he's annoying)
    - Van Basten (plays Cr@p football)
    - Benitez (only seems to work with unlimited resources, which we don't have)

    Feel free to add whatever you hear and give your opinions. Thank you.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by Fey on Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:48 pm

    Martin Jol? Why not, he knows the club and with Spurs on your CV it aint too bad.

    But if he is good enough, I really doubt it.

    van Gaal will be most likely, he always said he wanted to coach Bayern once in his life.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by Effenberg on Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:51 pm

    Fey wrote:
    van Gaal will be most likely, he always said he wanted to coach Bayern once in his life.


    Why has he never even been mentioned in the German press, I wonder?

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by Fey on Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:58 pm

    Effenberg wrote:
    Fey wrote:
    van Gaal will be most likely, he always said he wanted to coach Bayern once in his life.


    Why has he never even been mentioned in the German press, I wonder?


    No idea, problem is he still has a contract to mid-2009!

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by Machiavel on Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:02 pm

    Van Basten should not be mentioned whatsoever, he's agreed terms to coach Ajax after Euro 2008. Van Gaal would be great for Bayern, should be on good terms with Der Kaiser.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by chrissicross on Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:15 pm

    Like I said the other day, I think Hoeness should consider to retire one year earlier. That would make it easier to sign an international top coach, Hoeness and Mourinho or Hoeness and Hiddink etc. together on the bench won´t work in the long run.

    Then the new coach should also do the sportive part of Hoeness job, while Bayern should sign someone else for the commercial part. This way the new Bayern coach would be totally independent in his domain.

    The best coach for Bayern imo would be Arsene Wenger, but he would hardly leave Arsenal for Bayern I think. My second favourite would be Rijkaard should he leave Barcelona, then Hiddink, who will probably go to Chelsea though.

    Mourinho is surely interesting, but he would have to learn German first, then he´s surely very expensive and his ego is probably too big for Bayern and the Bundesliga.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by DS on Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:46 pm

    Actually the best coach for Bayern would be Ferguson as he knows how to handle cash bring in youngsters play attacking game how to deal with the expectations of winning then Arsene but neither would leave so Van Gaal.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by EMP on Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:00 pm

    Effenberg wrote:This thread will be open until they've found him. Please do not let this thread turn into an Otto vs Dutchies hatefest (or any other hatefest), thank you.

    NEWS-

    Hoeness:

    - It can take 2-3 months or 3 weeks.
    - A foreigner is definitely an option.
    - We will not (yet?) approach a coach that is still under contract with another club.
    - Coach has to speak German. Plenty of time for candidates to learn it until July.
    - "We all know the next one has to stick."
    - No contact with either Finke or Lippi.

    Raphael Honigstein article in SZ about Mourinho:

    http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/bundesliga/artikel/414/151037/

    - Bayern is his third favorite option after Barcelona (where Cruyff apparently doesn't want him) and Liverpool.
    - He's expecting a call from Bayern this week.
    - An unlikely option because, you know, he's Mourinho. He would clash with Hoeness/Rummenigge/Kaiser in no time and turn the club into FC Hollywood for good.
    - According to Hoenigstein "he is a playboy who likes to flirt with numerous girls, if only to verify his own status." Well put.

    In my opinion these are other acceptable candidates that are being talked about (in my order of preference):

    - Hiddink (possibly going to Chelsea in summer)
    - Veh
    - Rijkaard

    In my opinion, coaches that should be talked about more:

    - Van Gaal
    - Adriaanse (?) (Dutchies, I remember one of you told me he was great. What's he doing coaching Al-Saad?)

    In my opinion candidates that should not even be discussed:

    - Matthäus (moron)
    - Klinsmann (made people believe he was an actual coach)
    - Klopp (could NOT handle a big club, plus he's annoying)
    - Van Basten (plays Cr@p football)
    - Benitez (only seems to work with unlimited resources, which we don't have)

    Feel free to add whatever you hear and give your opinions. Thank you.


    Not really fair as he didn't have great resourcs at Valencia. Much of Valencia's big spendingwa post Benitez and it achieved f@ck all.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by Effenberg on Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:06 pm

    EMP wrote:
    Not really fair as he didn't have great resourcs at Valencia. Much of Valencia's big spendingwa post Benitez and it achieved f@ck all.


    You're right about his time at Valencia, of course. However, all you hear out of Liverpool these days is him asking for more money to buy more players. I'm not sure if from there he can revert to being a coach that can make something happen with the players he has. While Bayern have recently spent some money, I doubt that in the near future the club will invest more in 3-4 players than that insane sum he so willingly spent on Torres alone.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by anglophileHedgehog on Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:27 pm

    I'm surprised Peter 'Ihr Vollfriseure' Neururer hasn't offered his services just yet. Wink


    Frei nach:
    http://www.fussballgoetter.com/filme/07_11_24.html

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by Effenberg on Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:30 pm

    Weihnachtsmaus wrote:I'm surprised Peter 'Ihr Vollfriseure' Neururer hasn't offered his services just yet. Wink


    Frei nach:
    http://www.fussballgoetter.com/filme/07_11_24.html


    Actually, he has. In Bild, a day or two after it came out Hitzfeld is leaving.

    Quote: "Der Uli muss den Besten holen, der auf dem Markt ist - und das bin ich."

    Pure insanity.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by EMP on Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:32 pm

    I think it depends on whether there is a long-term plan or not. Some of the players he has signed are clearly for the future. Sounds a bit like he is engineering an exit from Liverpool, but unlike at Valencia he wants to be sacked so he gets compensated.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by anglophileHedgehog on Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:33 pm

    Effenberg wrote:
    Weihnachtsmaus wrote:I'm surprised Peter 'Ihr Vollfriseure' Neururer hasn't offered his services just yet. Wink


    Frei nach:
    http://www.fussballgoetter.com/filme/07_11_24.html


    Actually, he has. In Bild, a day or two after it came out Hitzfeld is leaving.

    Quote: "Der Uli muss den Besten holen, der auf dem Markt ist - und das bin ich."

    Pure insanity.

    LOOOOOOOOL! lol!

    Sorry, I must have missed that! But yeah, that sounds like something he'd say. Is his contract finally up or are Hanover still paying him?

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by chrissicross on Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:33 pm

    Weihnachtsmaus wrote:I'm surprised Peter 'Ihr Vollfriseure' Neururer hasn't offered his services just yet. Wink


    Frei nach:
    http://www.fussballgoetter.com/filme/07_11_24.html

    Laugh

    That´s also one of my favourites. Thanks for the link btw, Wiebke. cheers I didn´t know the Fussballgoetter have their own web page. Very Happy

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by Effenberg on Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:09 pm

    Guus Hiddink has ruled himself out.

    Too bad.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by Axeslammer on Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:56 pm

    Effenberg wrote:

    In my opinion candidates that should not even be discussed:

    - Matthäus (moron)
    - Klinsmann (made people believe he was an actual coach)
    - Klopp (could NOT handle a big club, plus he's annoying)
    - Van Basten (plays Cr@p football)
    - Benitez (only seems to work with unlimited resources, which we don't have)



    If you were a pretty girl I'd kiss you, that's how much we're agreeing ok

    Especially about Klopp being annoying Twisted Evil

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by SuperMario on Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:08 pm

    thirded.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by DD on Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:45 pm

    I never get why Germans don't like Mathaus? Sure he's a bell-end, but at least he's your bell-end.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by DD on Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:45 pm

    What's Voller doing these days anyway?

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by SuperMario on Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:54 pm

    DD wrote:I never get why Germans don't like Mathaus? Sure he's a bell-end, but at least he's your bell-end.

    I can understand it. I don't like Van Bommel either.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by DD on Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:58 pm

    De Guzman wrote:
    DD wrote:I never get why Germans don't like Mathaus? Sure he's a bell-end, but at least he's your bell-end.

    I can understand it. I don't like Van Bommel either.

    On the other hand, I don't mind Van Bommel at all.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by Ä on Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:24 pm

    DD wrote:I never get why Germans don't like Mathaus? Sure he's a bell-end, but at least he's your bell-end.


    agree 100%

    the anti-Lothar voices in Germany are ridiculous

    he's a LEGEND

    problem is

    Germans are conformists by nature; they really are like the Chinese, Swedes and Dutch

    they hate people standing out

    Neutral

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by Axeslammer on Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:34 pm

    36-0tto wrote:
    DD wrote:I never get why Germans don't like Mathaus? Sure he's a bell-end, but at least he's your bell-end.


    agree 100%

    the anti-Lothar voices in Germany are ridiculous

    he's a LEGEND

    problem is

    Germans are conformists by nature; they really are like the Chinese, Swedes and Dutch

    they hate people standing out

    Neutral


    How about Bassler and Effenberg ?

    They're a bit like Lothar (although nowhere near as big a c**t as he is)....

    They're both respected over here (though seen as a bit of lunies), Lothar on the other hand is state enemy number 1 and will always remain so (he stands for *everyting* we dislike).

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by Isar Truppe on Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:26 am

    Well I for one am delighted with this decision!!!

    From 1. July 2008


    Jürgen Klinsmann will become Bayern-Coach



    11.01.2008

    Ottmar Hitzfelds heir will be a familiar face in München. Ex-Bundestrainer Jürgen Klinsmann will become head coach at Bayern on July 1st.

    Klinsmann was a Bayern player from 1995 to 1997, winning the League Title and UEFA Cup in that time.

    Press conference at 15:00

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by Isar Truppe on Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:26 am

    http://www.fcbayern.t-home.de/de/aktuell/news/2008/14730.php?fcb_sid=4e236d8108f7583e90a212b3efef2157

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by DS on Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:33 am

    Not surprising but I would have liked a changed approach , Van Gaal that is.
    Lothar is a legend though.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by Isar Truppe on Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:54 am

    Of course Lothar is a legend. And one day when he learns a bit of diplomacy he will be given the chance to prove himself.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by DS on Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:58 am

    I am not talking as a manager though.

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    Re: FC Bayern Munich - New Manager Thread

    Post by Effenberg on Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:47 pm

    So, I guess that's it for this thread already...

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