What’s that smell? Aha, it’s Scottish football

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Post by Pierre Littbarski on Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:28 pm

Bit late but...



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Post by Pierre Littbarski on Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:45 pm

Celtic 3-0 Rangers


2nd goal (Samaras-Izaguirre-Hooper) was beautiful <Ale>
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Post by Murray on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:06 pm

They have to play again next week
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Post by Cesc Soler on Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:51 pm

Crazy stuff from the Old Firm tie in the Scottish Cup. Whittaker & Bougherra sent off for Rangers during the game & Diouf after the final whistle. McCoist and Lennon squared up at the end too.

It ended up 1-0 Celtic.
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Post by Murray on Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:55 pm

And only 18 days till they play each other again.

They'll need the riot police for that one.
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Re: What’s that smell? Aha, it’s Scottish football

Post by Murray on Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:15 pm

Scottish premier league to award three points for murder

20-04-11

SCOTTISH football's premier league is to award three points for a successful bombing campaign

From next season teams will be encouraged to pick off each other's
players and management with sniper rifles, land mines and grenades.

A league spokesman said: "For years Rangers and Celtic fans have put in a
huge amount of effort to ensure that insane violence remains a vital
and thriving element at the heart of the Scottish game."By
trying to kill Celtic manager Neil Lennon with a parcel bomb Rangers'
boisterous fans are sending us a message that they now want the league
to take the next logical step."

He added: "Scottish football has
never really been about football, as anyone who has seen one of the
matches would almost certainly agree.

"It's about a clash of twisted ideologies fuelled by delicious, high-strength alcohol and an
education system that sensibly divides children into Catholics and
Protestants as soon as they can spell the word 'hate'."

The move has been welcomed by other clubs who say that competitive murder could
finally end the domination of Rangers and Celtic.

A spokesman for Dundee United said: "They will be able to afford bigger bombs and guns
and bring in expensive foreign assassins who want the chance to kill
people in Europe, but we will focus on guerilla tactics and the element
of surprise.

"I see us very much as the Viet Cong of the Scottish premier league."

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/scottish-premier-league-to-award-three-points-for-murder-201104203738/
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Post by Pierre Littbarski on Wed May 04, 2011 7:36 pm

75' Inverness C.T. [3 - 1] Celtic

7' [1 - 0] C. Mulgrew (o.g.)

9' [1 - 1] K. Commons

53' [2 - 1] G. Munro

62' [3 - 1] S. Sutherland

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Re: What’s that smell? Aha, it’s Scottish football

Post by Cesc Soler on Sun May 15, 2011 12:54 pm

Rangers need to win today at Kilmarnock to clinch the SPL title, so far they are doing a good job of it.

Within seven minutes they put themselves 3-0 up.


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Post by S70_Tyke on Sun May 15, 2011 12:58 pm

great start for Rangers and no doubt Walter Smith will be signing off his career with Rangers in great style securing another SPL title.
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Post by Murray on Sun May 15, 2011 3:16 pm

Nobody was killed, that was the most important thing.
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Post by Murray on Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:11 pm

Bonkers statement from Hearts

The Hearts Board of Directors has issued the following statement in relation to outside influences on players and the club.
"What's happening with the club today is not a new thing. For almost 7
years we have been fighting to shield the club from crooks, criminals
and thieves. Many of the top players at the club have felt the bitter
results of the swindles that have been carried out with them on their
own skin. Skacel and Webster have returned to the club after realising
where these 'football patriots' have led them.

"Over a short space of time 4 players at our club have been on the wrong end of the
law. We note that 3 of them are represented by the same agent - Gary
Mackay - who has been so vicious in his attacks against Mr Romanov.

"Taking into account the facts that have been omitted by the media it can be
presumed that each of these cases is not a coincidence, but the result
of targeted actions of a mafia that wants to manipulate the club and the
results.

"Every year Hearts fights to be in the top 3, but even last season in
the last 12 games of the season it was almost like someone replaced the
team with a different one. Whose fault is that? Players? Manager's? Or
it is mafia.

"Stealing players, bad games, problems with the law - all of that on
top of record SFA fines. Problems are just shifted to another level.

"Mafia are dragging kids into the crime, in order to blackmail and
profit on them. It is not possible to separate these people from
pedophiles, and you don't need to do that. Each year we are forced to
fight against these maniacs harder and harder. We are standing in their
way not letting them manipulate the game of football in the way they
want. As such they undermine us in every possible way they can.
"The task of the club is to tear these kids out of hands of criminals."

http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/20110624/hearts-statement_2241384_2381659
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Post by Murray on Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:27 pm

Stupidly the new season starts today

I suppose it will be another year of shit football, bonkers conspiracy theories and general insanity.

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Post by stinger on Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:48 am

Never thought it would be me who will restart this topic, but I've heard some good things about Victor Wanyama - Kenyan central midfielder signed by Celtic during the summer. Apparently bigger teams are already sniffing around him, anyone had a chance to watch him play?
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Post by Murray on Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:22 pm

I would be very cautious about buying anyone from a Scottish club, the standard of football here has never been worse which can make players look better than they really are.
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Re: What’s that smell? Aha, it’s Scottish football

Post by Murray on Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:43 pm

It's finally happened, Rangers are going into administration

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-17015966
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Post by Fey on Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:19 pm

lol!

So Celtic to win the SPL every year from now on? Still, what would be the point of Celtic without Rangers. I can't imagine a life without ajax!

Scotish football has fallen though, not that long ago Dutch players moved to Rangers or Celtic, that has happened for a while now. Both of them should have joined the EPL.

The good news is that sectarianism might die now. Watched this a while ago.



Cant believe that still happens in a modern society in Europe.
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Post by Murray on Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:24 pm

The big question is why have they done it now. The result of the big tax case which could cost them £49million is not due for about another month.

I suspect there will be some jiggery pokery afoot, not only to avoid the tax bill but they will probably liquidate themselves and set up a new company and hope to continue in the Premier League as if nothing had happened. What should really happen is that a new company starts in the 3rd division but the rules will probably be bent to help them out. If that does happen, Scottish football won't really be about football any more, it will just be a racket.

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Post by worms. on Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:37 pm

Who cares the SPl is just a slightly better version of La Liga.

Not that I really care about either club but I guess I prefer Rangers because there protestant.

Without either Rangers or Celtic then Scottish football would be dead,if it's not already.
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Post by Murray on Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:44 pm

Worms, it is the gruesome twosome of Rangers & Celtic who are killing Scottish football, we would be much better off without them.

1 down, 1 to go.
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Post by Murray on Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:56 pm

10 point deduction for Rangers today for going into administration.

They are very lucky that the rules on administration are so soft, they would have been relegated in a lot of countries.
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Post by Fey on Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:38 pm

A 10 point deduction and still 2nd....

That says it all. With Rangers and Celtic getting more shite over the years, you would expect to see likes of Aberdeen. Like Twente and AZ did in Holland...Non-league, just like the other SPL.

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Post by rous91 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:49 pm

whats going on with rangers? is there really a crisis?
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Post by Murray on Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:51 am

Fey wrote:A 10 point deduction and still 2nd....

That says it all. With Rangers and Celtic getting more shite over the years, you would expect to see likes of Aberdeen. Like Twente and AZ did in Holland...Non-league, just like the other SPL.

But everybody else has got more shite as well.

Things will be even worse when they fix the league to allow Rangers to stay in the SPL. Nobody will want to watch a rigged league.
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Post by Murray on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:26 pm

Police investigating £24million which appears to have disappeared from Rangers.

The obvious suspect is the owner Craig Whyte (or is it White, he seems to have trouble remembering how to spell his own name) who has probably hidden the money in an offshore bank account and will soon disappear. Or it could be a money laundering scam, there have been rumours of that going around for months.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-17067141
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Post by Murray on Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:27 pm

Rangers face being stripped of honours as SPL investigates player payments

The Scottish Premier League board has launched an investigation into the
contracts issued to Rangers players and allegedly withheld from the
governing bodies.

A draft letter containing details of one such offshore agreement and the
performance-related payments which would be made into an Employee Benefit
Trust appeared in a Sunday newspaper 10 days ago and former Rangers director
Hugh Adam confirmed last weekend that he knew of their existence during his
time on the board.

The use of the EBTs under former owner Sir David Murray has led to a claim
from Her Majesty’s Revenue & Customs for unpaid tax and, if
Rangers are found to be guilty of tax evasion (a top tier tribunal is due to
announce its verdict in the next few weeks), the club could be landed with a
bill ranging from £49 million to £75 million.

However, if it transpires that Rangers have failed to supply those contract
details “in full” to the governing body then they could face having the
championships they won during the period the EBTs were used struck from the
record.

It had been widely believed that this period began in 2001 and ended in 2010
but the SPL examination will go back to the elite division’s formation in
July 1998.

Rangers appointed Dick Advoccat as manager that summer and, over the next
three years, the Dutchman plunged the club into debt, bringing players of
the calibre of Andrei Kanchelskis, Arthur Numan, Giovanni van Bronckhorst,
Tore Andre Flo, Gabriel Amato, Michael Ball, Fernando Ricksen and Bert
Konterman to Ibrox.

“The SPL Board has instructed an investigation into the alleged non-disclosure
to the SPL of payments made by or on behalf of Rangers FC to players since
July 1, 1998,” said a statement.

“SPL rules F1, G1.1 and G1.5 give the SPL Board wide powers of investigation
into potential breaches of the SPL rules.

“SPL rules D9.3 and D1.13 impose a prohibition on players receiving payments
for playing football or participating in an activity connected with football
except where such payments are made in accordance with a form of contract
approved by the SPL and require that all such contracts are submitted to the
SPL within 14 days of being entered into.”

Asked whether the club could be stripped of the six titles it won during this
period if the SPL discovers that they hadn’t provided all of the relevant
details in connection with payments to their players, chief executive Neil
Doncaster said that was a situation he was “monitoring very closely”. He
added: “I am not sure that speculation of that type is helpful to anyone.”

The Scottish Football Association had declared last week that it would conduct
its own probe into the allegations made by Adam.

Rangers were minutes away from being penalised by the SPL yesterday,
administrators Duff and Phelps agreeing to pay Dunfermline part of the
£84,000 owed to them for tickets for last month’s match at East End Park
just before the meeting which would have decided on the appropriate
punishment for welshing on that debt. The remainder of the money must be
paid by April 13.

“We learned, just prior to the meeting starting, that the administrators had
agreed with Dunfermline payment for the outstanding money so our action,
relating to Rangers, went away,” said Doncaster.

Doncaster also claimed yesterday that the extension of the SPL’s TV deal with
Sky and ESPN was not dependent on being able to deliver four Old Firm games
per season.

Should Rangers lose the tax case and emerge from liquidation as a newco, there
is no guarantee that they will be allowed to retain their membership of the
SPL and some rivals believe that they should be forced to begin life in the
Third Division.


All 12 clubs were represented at yesterday’s board meeting at Hampden and
Dunfermline chairman John Yorkston said afterwards: “As we speak today, if
they come out of administration I personally feel it’s a clean-slate job.

“If it’s liquidation, it’s a completely different kettle of fish. Liquidation
is a completely different situation and they may well have to go down to the
Third Division. We would have to look at it and see what all the facts are.”

Doncaster, though, believes that the extended contract with their broadcast
partners (which is due to last until 2017) will not be affected if Rangers
are not in the top flight.

“The current contract, which comes to an end this season, says Rangers and
Celtic must play each other four times a season,” he said. “That’s in line
with most of our large contracts – our title sponsors are the same. That’s
no different from any other league with its biggest clubs.

“What will be in the next contract from the summer to be seen. You do a deal
originally in a short-form agreement and then the long-form agreement
follows that later on.

“That’s in process at the moment. What will happen in the future? I never
predict anything in football.”


It keeps getting worse for Rangers (in administration). What we have here is cheating on a huge scale going back 15-20 years. As well as tax evasion, Rangers (in administration) gave their players secret second contracts which would make them ineligible to play in all competitions.

Old Firm ‘title decider’ given green light


The third Old Firm encounter of the season, scheduled for Ibrox on March 25,
will go ahead even if results between now and then conspire to allow Celtic
to secure the championship at the home of their greatest rivals.

Ever since Rangers clinched the title at Parkhead in 1999 in a foul-tempered
affair which saw referee Hugh Dallas suffer a head wound due to a coin
thrown by a Celtic supporter and several home fans invade the field of play,
the SPL has taken pains to avoid championship deciders between the clubs.

Neil Doncaster, the SPL’s chief executive, stressed that there are no plans to
rearrange the date of what is bound to be a highly-charged meeting.

“I’ve not spoken to the police about this,” he said. “The game is in the
fixture card and has been in there for quite a while. It’s a game scheduled
for TV so I’m not anticipating any change to that fixture.”

Meanwhile, the question of redundancies, of how many people must lose their
jobs and how many can be saved by voluntary wage cuts, dragged on until
Tuesday.

Duff and Phelps had set Monday as a deadline following more than a week of
talks aimed at achieving monthly savings of £1 million but talks broke up
early on Monday night without a decision.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/9123816/Rangers-face-being-stripped-of-honours-as-SPL-investigates-player-payments.html

The cops are going to be shitting themselves about this game. It could easily turn into a riot, especially as it could be the last old firm gave ever (hopefully)
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Post by Pierre Littbarski on Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:41 pm

Kilmarnock <Ale>
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Post by Murray on Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:50 pm

The referee denied Celtic a blatant penalty in the last minute. Cue the usual conspiracy theories from paranoid Celtic fans about the referee being a Rangers fan.
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Post by Murray on Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:09 pm

Brilliant blog on the channel 4 website about Rangers, the Scottish media and 'succulent lamb'

Right – let me make two things absolutely clear at the outset.

First, I am writing this imagining that one or two people outside
Glasgow use the internet, so I might make some observations familiar to
Clydeside surfers.

Second, this arises from my continuing investigation into Rangers
which is still in early stages. That is to say, I am not investigating
Celtic. If I were, rest assured RFC Bears – they’d get just the same
treatment.

I’d expected the paranoia, insults, spin etc – hey – this is “fitba”
after all and I welcome it good, bad and ugly, from fans within and
without Glasgow. Indeed I’ve gone out and asked for it.

What I didn’t expect were the insults (and in at least one case a
direct physical threat) not from fans but from Scottish journalists.

Sarajevo, Mogadishu, Kabul, Islamabad, Tripoli, Baghdad…I could bore
you with more – in none of these places have I ever got this interesting
reaction from local journalists.

Only in Glasgow.

So something’s up. Something’s different.

Something about asking questions about RFC clearly angers some in the
Glasgow media in a way I’ve never seen in 25 years of global reporting.

Equally, a number of fine Glasgow journalists have been incredibly
helpful, encouraging and agree there has been something deeply wrong for
far too long in the culture of reporting RFC.

They know who they are, male and female, working in papers, radio and
broadcasting and every single one has encouraged me to dig around in an
area many cannot, will not or are prevented from, exploring.

I refer of course to “succulent lamb”. Graham Spiers, seasoned football writer in Glasgow was there the day it happened.

He and other reporters dined with Sir David Murray – then RFC owner,
in the Channel Islands. Murray – as ever – was talking big on the
Rangers dream-theme, laying out plans for the club that seemed to go
well beyond the mere limit of the sky.

There duly appeared copy praising the “succulent lamb” that was eaten – the “fine red” that was drunk.

The food and drink were taken – so was this man’s dream of Rangers – all without much question in some quarters.

I make and imply no criticism at all of the reporters present – what
intrigues as an outsider is how many people years later around Glasgow
happily talk about “succulent lamb” journalism.

Let Graham explain – he was actually there, after all: “Succulent
lamb journalism means a culture – and I hold my hand up here too – a
culture of sycophantic, unquestioning, puff journalism that went on
around Rangers generally and Sir David Murray particularly.”

Of course you’ll see it to some degree across sport, across football.
But it was, many Glasgow journalists say, more damaging here.

“Look,” says Graham Spiers, “you are making a pact with the devil if
you like. You get thrown the best scraps. You get something for the back
page or whatever. But there’s a tacit deal. You don’t dig too deep. You
don’t cause any trouble.”

So Big Dave’s dream was shouted across Glasgow. Fans loved it. It
shifted papers. Everyone (in blue) wanted in, needed to believe.

So it went on – year after year. On one side the directors at
Scotland’s football “governing” bodies didn’t ask much. On the other,
large sections of Glasgow football journalism declined to delve.

How else to explain Ibrox’s boom to spectacular bust?

How else to deal with the fact that when Craig Whyte took over it was
stories of a “billionaire” with “off the scale riches” that were pumped
out?

Ten minutes on Google or in Companies House could’ve ended that. But
no. It was dreamland the fans wanted, dreamland much of the media bought
into and a club already financially crippled was about to be further
injured.

Legions of fans sold out again, as it would turn out.

Succulent lamb culture has permeated to a degree that, as one
prominent Glasgow tabloid journalist put it: “The press -a really
critical check and balance in the normal way of things, had been more or
less destroyed in Glasgow.”

So are things any better today? Is succulent lamb off the menu – replaced with humble pie?

I leave it to others to judge if that succulent lamb cozy Glasgow football culture has really gone away.
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/succulent-lamb-menu-questions/1010
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Post by Murray on Sat May 12, 2012 2:48 pm

Tomorrow could be a historic day, Rangers last ever game (hopefully)
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Post by Murray on Sun May 20, 2012 7:08 pm



Those were the days. Includes a very old interview with Fergie

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