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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:03 pm

AFAIK, he wasn't on the transfer list of the DFL and hence can't leave us now. Plus, the transfer window closed in Holland, too, didn't it?
Wouldn't mind us to get some cash for him, though.
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by Fey on Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:56 pm

Deal came close but jews only wanted him on loan.And Werder only wanted to sell. They are insane greedy, they have almost 100 million to spend, yet refuse to buy anyone.
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:32 pm

Another serious setback, it's kinda sad to see how we're being outclassed by the likes of Frankfurt these days. But the aim this season has to be to avoid relegation and lay the foundations for a new team that can challenge in future. We basically have to start from scratch.
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:39 am

Mourinho the idiot is treating De Bruyne like shit. Werder management wants to try to get him back this winter!

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/werder-bremen/will-de-bruyne-vor-mourinho-retten-32636676.bild.html

Please God make this happen, the kid is exactly the kind of player we're missing, Derbysieg and good performances withstanding.
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:13 pm

Eiching decided to buy Argentinian LB Santiago Garcia, paying €2m to Chilean Club CSD Rangers Talca. Garcia had been on a loan in Bremen and did well from the beginning.

http://sportbild.bild.de/SPORT/bundesliga/vereine/werder-bremen/2013/10/15/transfer-news/werder-zieht-kaufoption-garcia-bleibt-in-bremen.html


In other news, we're being linked to 23 year old Japanese attacking midfielder Yoichiro Kakitani, who we supposedly want to sign this winter. Kakitani is a Japanese international playing for Cerezo Osaka, the same club Kagawa came from. I don't know the player, but he's supposedly similar to Kagawa.

http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/yoichiro-kakitani-zu-werder-bremen/topic/ansicht_500_1001096_seite1.html


Youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZKnLW4VpYM
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:23 pm

Interesting interview with Robin Dutt:

Werder-Trainer Dutt: "Wir berauschen uns noch zu sehr am Fußballspielen"

Robin Dutt ist seit Sommer Trainer von Werder Bremen, am Wochenende trifft er auf seinen Ex-Club Freiburg, dem er vor der Saison einen zentralen Spieler wegkaufte. Wie will er Werders Defensiv-Misere bekämpfen? Und warum ist es manchmal besser, als Coach den Mund zu halten?

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SPIEGEL ONLINE: War der Zustand im Team denn so schlecht?

Dutt: Da waren zunächst mal die 66 Gegentore. Man muss gar kein Fachmann sein, um zu wissen: So viele Tore kannst du gar nicht schießen, um bei einem solch schlechten Wert noch erfolgreich zu sein. Die Offensive ist zwar mein Steckenpferd, aber sie ist auch am schwierigsten zu trainieren. Die Defensive erfordert eine gewisse Mentalität, ist vom taktischen Ablauf aber einfacher zu trainieren. Gemeinsam zu verteidigen ist die Basis, über die wir unsere spielerische Linie entwickeln wollen.
http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/werder-bremen-interview-mit-trainer-robin-dutt-ueber-freiburg-a-927685.html

So Dutt basically says that training to defend as a team is easier than training a (fluid) attack, hence concentrating on building a proper defensive foundation first before you refine the attacking game is the right way to go. Dutt has a Freiburg background also, just like Löw, hence believes in an attacking philosophy as well, but this is clearly a fundamental difference.

I totally agree with him, of course. The best example for this are Klopp's Dortmund, as mentioned numerous times. Klopp's first few years in Dortmund were all about stabilising the team and establishing a proper, modern defensive foundation. Klopp built the attacking behemoth Dortmund from the back, concentrated on the defence before he refined their attacking game. This is what Dutt is doing in Bremen these days, it's what Löw should have been doing with Germany for years, but he isn't due to some idiotic ideological fundamentalism nobody understands.
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by Fey on Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:48 pm

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/werder-bremen/werder-profi-hat-die-groesste-mattscheibe-33098294.bild.html

Elia bought a tv of 35k...making even Emily look like less of c**t!
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:41 pm

We've extended the contract of Kroos.......Felix Kroos that is, Toni's younger (and less talented) brother.

http://www.werder.de/de/profis/news/50437.php
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by Fey on Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:12 pm

How is Elia doing?

Also what is the goal of this season, again escaping relegation, ending above HSV or a mid-table finish?
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:34 pm

Better than last season, means ideally nothing to do with the relegation struggle, securing a mid-table spot. Our squad isn't good enough to challenge for the European spots yet.

Elia is a clown, more concerned with his hair cut than performances on the pitch. A spark of quality here and there, but totally inconsistent. Would like us to sell him if we could get some money for him.
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:38 am

U19 Euro champion and top scorer Davie Selke intends to stay in Bremen.

Selke: "100 Prozent für Werder"

Shooting-Star Davie Selke hat nach dem Gewinn des EM-Titels mit der deutschen U 19 allen Interessenten eine Absage erteilt.

"Ich fliege jetzt zurück nach Bremen und bespreche mit den Verantwortlichen, wie es weitergeht. Und dann geht es mit 100 Prozent für Werder weiter", sagte der 19 Jahre alte EM-Torschützenkönig nach dem 1:0 (1:0) im Finale gegen Portugal.

Davie Selke im Porträt: Ein Grenzgänger

Mit sechs Toren hatte Selke maßgeblichen Anteil am EM-Titel der deutschen Junioren in Ungarn. "Wir freuen uns, dass wir Deutschland zwar einen kleineren, aber den zweiten Titel in diesem Sommer schenken durften. Das ist überragend", sagte der Angreifer.

Zuletzt hatte auch Bremens Manager Thomas Eichin betont, Selke um jeden Preis halten zu wollen. "Wir haben einen Plan mit ihm. Der sieht vor, ihn nach und nach in die Bundesliga-Mannschaft zu integrieren", sagte Eichin bei "bild.de".

In der Hinrunde der vergangenen Bundesliga-Saison stand Selke in drei Partien für Werder auf dem Platz.

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1408/News/davie-selke-100-prozent-fuer-werder-bremen-thomas-eichin-zukunft-u-19-em-torschuetzenkoenig.html

Hope we extend his contract and integrate him in the first team asap, giving him some crucial playing time that is necessary for his development. Hope he can make that final crucial step to Bundesliga football, the step so many promising talents failed to do before him. Been a while we had an out-to-out striker like him coming through in this country, would love him to succeed for many reasons.
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:55 pm

Just won the "highlight" of this year's summer preparation by beating Chelsea (who actually started a strong team, with both Fabregas and Costa playing) 3-0. Elia (pen), Obraniak and Felix Kroos (pen) with the goals. Pretty good performance and summer preparation this year, still unbeaten and looking quite fresh and hungry. Hopefully, it'll show in the league, too.
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by Antarion on Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:04 pm

Selke: 100 percent for WErder.

Werder all time legend Selke will give 100 percent during the next two preperation games for WErder, before going to a bigger club, his agent told Bild.


Face it Blut  Very Happy 
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:06 pm

He hasn't achieved anything on the club level yet and needs to establish himself in the Bundesliga. He'd be foolish to leave us now, but we'd be foolish not to integrate him in the first team, too.

The 'bigger' clubs in the Bundesliga don't need him. Not many clubs in Germany bigger than Werder. FAKT.
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by Fey on Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:13 pm

1 Bayern
2 Dortmund
3 HSV
4 Schalke
5 Koln
6 Hertha
7 Leverkussen
8 Gladbach
9 Stuttgart
10 Frankfurt
11 Dresden

Out of the top of my head that is!

Shows once again that the best thing about German football this years was NOT the WC but the fact HSV stayed up! Such a legend club.

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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:16 pm

lol!

Can you keep a straight face while writing that, CAN YOU?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Bundesliga_table
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by Fey on Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:24 pm

Well I had a thinking face, and it appears I was right that I forgot a few...Nurnberg and Kaiserlautern

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_football_champions

I use this list, seems more fair.
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:28 pm

Papperlapapp! The Bundesliga was founded in 1963, before that, Germany didn't have a proper national league, just some shitty regional leagues of which the 'Meister' played each other once a year in a knock-out format.

Die Nummer 1 im Norden sind wir! cheers
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by Antarion on Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:36 pm

Fey wrote:1 Bayern
2 Dortmund
3 HSV
4 Schalke
5 Koln
6 Hertha
7 Leverkussen
8 Gladbach
9 Stuttgart
10 Frankfurt
11 Dresden

Out of the top of my head that is!

Shows once again that the best thing about German football this years was NOT the WC but the fact HSV stayed up! Such a legend club.

 <Ale>

I would rank Gladbach even higher


Also KArlsruher SC is missing  cheers 
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by Fey on Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:43 pm

So you honestly think Werder Bremen are the second club in Germany? 

Perhaps we can argue that even Aachen is a bigger club then Bremen?

Antarion is right about Gladbach being sixth. Perhaps Stuttgart should be higher as well, but not a fan of them either.

As for the nr 1 im Norden sind wir.

Sie reden nicht von den zehntausenden, die Jahr fur Jahr, eine Saisonkarte kaufen. Nicht weil es ihnen, zu gut geht.

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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:54 pm

Werder is not the second biggest club in Germany, it's the second most consistent club. But only Bayern and Dortmund are really bigger than Werder. We're not the most successful, we're not the richest and our stadium is not the biggest. But our following is huge, home and abroad. Werder is known everywhere around the globe, it's one of the most well known Bundesliga clubs. You can ride a rickshaw in Mumbai, a taxi in Bejing or a boat in Malibu - everywhere, people know Werder Bremen!

Werder Bremen is what football is about, it's the soul of it. Everybody, bar die verbotene Stadt and some weirdos from Rotterdam, loves Werder! cheers
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by Ä on Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:02 pm

Werder is really the FIFTH biggest club in Germany

Bayern, Dortmund, Schalke and HSV

are bigger

and more iconic

that Bremen rank 5th is a miracle though

considering the size of the place, the size of the stadium, the lack of money and the lack of international cups or finals, at least semis

it's VERY impressive

and mostly down to the all-time legend

OTTO

REHAKLES

cheers

they have every right to be proud of their success/standing

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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:06 pm

H*V hasn't been bigger than Werder for 30 freaking years! Bloody hell, that's a fact! Schalke haven't even won the Bundesliga once, not even once!

Do the test. Go to some obscure location and ask the people about the Bundesliga. Or just mention the name "Werder Bremen". You'll see a smile on their faces immediately.

But all that isn't relevant now. We need to get back where we belong. And we will!
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by Ä on Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:30 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:H*V hasn't been bigger than Werder for 30 freaking years! Bloody hell, that's a fact! Schalke haven't even won the Bundesliga once, not even once!

Do the test. Go to some obscure location and ask the people about the Bundesliga. Or just mention the name "Werder Bremen". You'll see a smile on their faces immediately.

But all that isn't relevant now. We need to get back where we belong. And we will!

the superior status of HSV and Schalke is down to history , and yes, not necessarily recent history

Schalke captured the imagination of the German football public AFTER the war, when they traveled the country for friendlies and training sessions

they therefore became a NATIONAL rather than regional VOLKSVEREIN

I have older relatives here in Bavaria for whom Schalke is still a BIGGER club than Bayern , who really joined the party fairly late

when Magath became Schalke manager he also immediately called it the SECOND BIGGEST club in Germany (after Bayern)

and THAT man is pure HSV and has managed WErder

as for HSV being bigger than Werder: well, they have won the CL, they are the only club NEVER to have been relegated

and their titles really captured the nation's imagination in a way Werder's never did

Hrubesch, Magath, Kaltz, Kevin Keegan...

ALL TIME LEGENDS

Happel has his equal in Otto

but

Volksparkstadion will always top the Weserstadion

but more importantly, Hamburg tops Bremen as a city

when Hoeness was asked who had the potential to rival Bayern,

he did not say Werder or Dortmund

nor the ever incompetent Berlin

but HAMBURG

says it all

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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by Fey on Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:47 pm

I swear, you would have placed Bremen 2nd before the succes of Kloppo du Popstar.

I honestly doubt that Werder is so big abroad, here in Holland the Ruhrpott teams are all ranked a lot higher, but thats perhaps they are all closer to the border. But I doubt that your average chinaman is gonna smile because you mention Werder Bremen..perhaps because it sounds funny.The Bockelberg was something big here...also, they could have been today's Bayern Munich, who were noting before the 70's.

HSV, true they havent won the league in a while, but is a sleeping giant. The most famous fast food in the world is named after the city, Germany's 2nd biggest city, the harbour, the wealth etc. Everything is there to make it even bigger then Munich ffs.

Also Werder, IMO, lacks great players. When you mention Bremen, I think of Frings, Micoud, Ailton..compare that to Gladbach even with the like of Netzer or HSV with Seeler, Kaltz

Personally I think Bremen lived above their means for a few years, and did it constantly, but all in all standings of the last couple of years do the club more justice.
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by Isco Benny on Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:38 pm

Only a friendly, but fun to see Chelsea get thrashed, nice work!

This whole which club is bigger thing is really so subjective. Even counting trophies only tells half of the story. Depends totally on the fragment of. time inwhich you are asking the question.

Many of my generation would put Werder Bremen in the top 3, behind Bayern and Dortmund, given their success in 90s / early 00s. They were also on Sensible Soccer, which really sorts the wheat from the chaff.
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:30 pm

Schalke was big during the Nazi era, their 'success' is hence tainted, especially since they did not reach that status again after WW2 and haven't won the Bundesliga even once. It's a joke to consider a team a Bundesliga giant when they haven't even won the title yet! 

HSV had their years in the late 70s and early 80s, but haven't done diddly squat ever since. It's like believing Feyenoord to be a European giant these days just because they won the European Cup with Happel in the 70s. Hamburg is a big city, but so is Berlin. It's a rich City, but so is Düsseldorf. Neither Hertha, nor Fortuna are big teams because of that. HSV is a dinosaur indeed, stuck in the past, run by a bunch of incompetent blowhards and supported by a horde of delusional fans.  

I always said, when Fey and Otto were raving about HIV in their delusional delirium, that the true sleeping giant in Germany has always been Dortmund. The giant has awaken and they've taken the second spot, they earned it. But besides those two, Bayern and Dortmund, none of the other clubs is bigger than Werder. All of them, including Werder (finances), lack in certain areas. But Werder is by far the most popular of them, particularly abroad.
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by Fey on Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:14 pm



Classic scene!

Even back then it was already a huge club. Also succes could meassure something, but not everything. Newcastle won fuck all for over 50 years, still considered a big club by many. Yet, Nothingham Forrest, not so much.

As for Dusseldorf, another team I totally forgot.

The amount of potential bigger Bremen teams in Germany is staggering. Not to mention the likes of Fenerbahce and Galatasaray! I could fill a great Bundesliga without Bremen tbh.The trick is too turn all these Spurs/Bremen-like teams into a Bayern. Then the Bundesliga will be unstopable. 

Still, if you take all the potential from the other teams in mind, Bremen did really well, one cant deny.

I wonder how your top 10 looks like Blut!
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:15 am

Ä wrote:
and their titles really captured the nation's imagination in a way Werder's never did

Hrubesch, Magath, Kaltz, Kevin Keegan...

ALL TIME LEGENDS

What do all those "ALL TIME LEGENDS" have in common? Add Seeler to the mix, the real "all time legend" HSV produced, and all of them have one tiny little fact in common - none of them won the World Cup! Hrubesch and Kaltz won the Euros in 1980, but that's about it.

Now, Werder Bremen had the likes of "Eisenfuß" Höttges, important part of the best German national team ever in 1972, won the WC in 1974. Völler, won the WC in 1990. Eilts, important player of the 1996 Euro winning team. Klose, all time WC record scorer, won the WC this year. Özil, won the WC this year.

Then the likes of Micoud who inspired a generation of young German midfielders like Kroos and who only didn't play a prominent role for his NT because he had to compete with all time great Zidane for the spot. Pizarro, who is the highest scoring foreigner in the league. "Kiwi" Rufer who is the best player Oceania ever produced. etc. etc.

Fact of the matter is that as far as Germany is concerned, HSV's contributions are pretty 'überschaubar'. More than that, the oh so glorious "Volksparkstadion" was the place where the biggest disgrace of NT history, the loss to Holland in the 1988 Euros, took place, the only title Holland have ever won! That's the reason why the DFB didn't play a single match there for ages, the place had to be exorcised! From all the stadia in Germany, the DFB's record in Hamburg is the worst!
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Re: Werder Bremen 2014/2015

Post by Fey on Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:07 pm

http://eurorivals.net/top-football-clubs/germany

Legends like Kaltz and Hrubbish also played in the WC final of 1982...The fact you are gonna claim Klose and Ozil as Bremer jungs now is clutching for straws!

Manni Kaltz inspired also many people, I doubt anyone would ever sing this about a Bremen player:

mein erster feuchter Traum,
war ne Flanke von Manni Kaltz







Not to mention, the brilliance of the Volksparkstadion, they also have by far the best accent in Germany.

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