me wonders

are you starting threads using this account so your other one doesn't get past 1000?

908/6059

so

approx 104/695

we can safetly say Otto has reached the 1000 mark

You know as well as the rest of us that Loew is doing an incredible job with the squad he has at his disposal otto.

In fact we could even conclude that Jogi is the best German manager for the past twenty years.

We have all been saying it for years and now finally the truth comes out

It's a shame you fell for all the hype you have been fed but think of it as an excellent learning experience


WG TAI

Loew is actually ok

he is better than Ribbeck, Vogts and certainly Klinsi

but worse than Voeller, Beckenbauer, Derwall, Rehagel and Schoen

UNLESS he delivers this ridiculously easy Euro 2008 title

the jury is out

IF Germany get eliminated in the QF , I will personally start a MASS-DEMONSTRATION in Munich to get rid of the Swabian

it really happened

Shut up, children.

How about "affair with Zwanziger", forget the wife. Actually that might be OK.

Allez les rouges wrote:Shut up, children.

How about "affair with Zwanziger", forget the wife. Actually that might be OK.

It's otto logic Allez

See McLaren the greatest england manager of all time

IF we lose against Austria, which I DOUBT

Loew would get the sack

frankly, I don't particularly like Loew, but he has done a good job so far and should stay even ,if our campaign is finished on Monday

still, it seems his replacement would be SAMMER

a brilliant option

I personally think it would take no less than a defeat by Austria for Loew to get the sack but thats purely hypothetical, i don't think he will.

EDIT: as I don't think for a second Germany will lose to Austria

if Austria beat us, Loew is out: the DFB supports him but the media would slaughter him

if we get into the QF and lose to Portugal, Loew will be allowed to keep his job but the shine will be off , the media will dissect him over the next two years and he'll be out after the World Cup

72-76-80-96-08 wrote:if Austria beat us, Loew is out: the DFB supports him but the media would slaughter him

if we get into the QF and lose to Portugal, Loew will be allowed to keep his job but the shine will be off , the media will dissect him over the next two years and he'll be out after the World Cup

Pretty much what i would speculatively have guessed. Similar to what happens to the England managers.

Germany should be looking for a Dutch manager, If they cannot find one surely McClaren would be a good call....

Brian2468 wrote:Germany should be looking for a Dutch manager,:

Hiddink now tells us that the DFB offered him the job in 2004 ( I think)



we really ARE run by a bunch of TRAITORS

anyway, Löw knows that people are getting out their knives to finish him off

his selection policy ( Cacau over Kiessling ...) is a FARCE

so what does the Bundescremer DO ?

he ARMS himself and says

"COME and GET ME, if you DARE"

Who are you supporting on Saturday then Otto?

There was a (semi-) interesting interview with Jogi in the SZ and there's another one with Ivanschitz on the Kunstrasen in Moscow that I haven't had time to look at yet...

72-76-80-96-08 wrote:

Brian2468 wrote:Germany should be looking for a Dutch manager,:

Hiddink now tells us that the DFB offered him the job in 2004 ( I think)



we really ARE run by a bunch of TRAITORS

anyway, Löw knows that people are getting out their knives to finish him off

his selection policy ( Cacau over Kiessling ...) is a FARCE

so what does the Bundescremer DO ?

he ARMS himself and says

"COME and GET ME, if you DARE"

Arguably the only Dutchie South Americans rate nowadays.

Allez les rouges wrote:Who are you supporting on Saturday then Otto?

There was a (semi-) interesting interview with Jogi in the SZ and there's another one with Ivanschitz on the Kunstrasen in Moscow that I haven't had time to look at yet...

I am supporting RUSSIA 100%

today I nearly got a heart-attack

Zwanziger just said that once Germany had qualified he would try to sit down with Löw to extend his contract to 2012

fucking hell

the Mannschaft is DOOMED

the best scenario would be for Russia to humiliate us (whilst Ballack is playing well )

and our strikers fail to score a single goal / the DMCs are shit/ and Adler leaks goals

hence, reopening the Kiessling/Frings/Wiese discussions



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the Ivanschitz interview about artificial football pitches and how they influence your playing style is a MUST READ

in particular for guys like guzman who is interested in futsal...

it really made me think that teams should train A LOT MORE on these artificial pitches so that their game becomes more PRECISE

I think it's in SZ

Dont know what your problem is with Adler. He is a good choice. The real problem is that Enke would be playing if he were fit. While i like him, he is no special keeper and should not be the first choice. Glad he was ill.

Agreed Antarion.

Otto, please fuck off, you're becoming the Nutters among supposed German fans...

Allez les rouges wrote:Agreed Antarion.

Otto, please fuck off, you're becoming the Nutters among supposed German fans...

Lord Haw-Haw wrote:what would it take for Loew to get the sack

Losing 0-1 to the youth team of Mainz '05 ?

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/nationalelf/startseite/515556/artikel_Gomez_Wieder-nicht-getroffen.html

Point. taken. Axe.

haha

the Mannschaft gets a drubbing by Mainz B-team



Löw truly makes our lads a little bit worse every day



who cares

Zwanziger and Löw are now joined at the hip and will have to resign at the same time after the defeat by Russia



good interview with Kuranyi

http://www.derwesten.de/nachrichten/sport/fussball/2009/10/7/news-136090628/detail.html

TOP MAN

treated like a war criminal by the Swabian gaylord

what a pity that we won against Russia

otherwise, Löw's position would now be rather shaky

the fans are PISSED off by the bloodless display against Finland

and once again, Löw has failed to REACH the players


"So berichtete Arne Friedrich nach dem mühsamen 1:1 gegen Finnland, Löw habe "viel Wert darauf gelegt, dass wir Charakter zeigen und die Konzentration hochhalten. Aber das ging komplett in die andere Richtung".

http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_dfbteam/artikel_163021.html



his ROTATION policy does not work either

endlessly blooding new players is a flop as well

after Cacau's poor game , you would expect Kiessling to feature against Chile and Egypt

Frings should also be back soon now that Hizelsperger is well below his best form

what are the odds though ?!

the truth is

German fans are stupid and fickle

and Löw fails to motivate the players for friendlies

now here is the problem

ALL the games until SA

ARE FRIENDLIES

by the time the World Cup starts the Vaterland will have fallen out of love with the gaylord

BUT EVEN WORSE

the Mannschaft will have failed to BUILD CONFIDENCE that you only get by GOOD RESULTS and PERFORMANCES

which means

Löw HAS to get the sack NOW

and be replaced by Sammer or Hrubesch

wahre G

72-76-80-96-08 wrote:

the truth is

German fans are stupid

too easy

Axeslammer wrote:

72-76-80-96-08 wrote:

the truth is

German fans are stupid

too easy

but 100% wahre Geschichte

read the online replies to newspaper articles

most of it is complete drivel

discussions are now becoming far more tactical

which is a plus to some extent

but boy are they all FICKLE

kinda terrifying

today's darling is tomorrow's whipping boy

ZERO LOYALTY to be seen anywhere

and poor judgement everywhere

Talking of fickle, which German club do you support this week?

debaser wrote:Talking of fickle, which German club do you support this week?

Leverkusen is today his cup of tea

Well Otto has a fair point by saying Krautistan didnt really become any better under Löw.

The fact that he stars in Nivea commercials for skin products for men...say's it all.

Is Otto the last real German man?

Tai

Fey wrote:Well Otto has a fair point by saying Krautistan didnt really become any better under Löw.

The fact that he stars in Nivea commercials for skin products for men...say's it all.

Is Otto the last real German man?

Tai

The worse Germans play the better they do in a tournement!

Ricardo Wetzel wrote:

debaser wrote:Talking of fickle, which German club do you support this week?

Leverkusen is today his cup of tea

1. Leverkusen
2. Hoffenheim
3. Nürnberg
4. WErder Bremen

these are my four clubs now

and they will remain so until the end of the season

THAT is what I call LOYALTY