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Re: SACK Lw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by anglophileHedgehog on Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:13 pm

Antarion wrote:
anglophileHedgehog wrote:
Antarion wrote:Sprache der Dichter und Denker ok

Definately not ugly from a native speaker perspective. Don't know about what other countries think about it, but I heared many like it and want to learn German. So it can't be THAT bad Smile

(I hope its not only because of Rammstein, Tokio Hotel or E Nomine) Laughing
Add The Scorpions to that list. And Tokio Hotel are apparently ridiculously popular in France.

I'll add them. TH are also damn popular in Israel.

Scorpions are on their farewell tour this year. Was in the news yesteerday. <Ale>
Yep. I saw that... And rediscovered that Klaus Meine is insufferable in interviews because he thinks he's so cool und locker, Mann. Rolling Eyes

That said, the EXPO happened sufficiently long ago that I can enjoy "Moments of Glory" again. Despite his tendency to be annoying, Herr Meine has a very fine voice. Ale
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Post by Allez les rouges on Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:36 pm

I can't believe Axe is recycling this nonsense again. It's not all about mellifluousness otherwise Italian and possibly French would run away with it (which you probably think anyway), it's about range of expression.

Dutch is great too, really need to learn more. Any language that says "let op zakkenrollers!!" can't be all bad Smile

Saw Scorpions the year before last (dunno about this year, not my scene, though may yet be persauded again), Rrrammstein a few weeks ago again and am seeing Nena in May Embarassed

Toi toi toi fr heut abend Igel Ale
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Post by  on Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:23 pm

interesting stuff in Sportbild

to those wondering what Bierhoff is doing all day when he is not negotiating his own salary increase

well

he just met Allofs, the Bremen CEO

the purpose of the visit ?

Wiese, Hunt and Marin had recently complained that they did not get the Nationalmannschaft treatment they deserved

and Bierhoff was going to tell Allofs that the plyers should shut up PUBLICALLY

in the interest of the club and country Doh

Allofs then also defendend Frings and said he SHOULD play for the Mannschaft

and warns that the national team NEEDS players with experience

players that "set Reizpunkte"

as for the players Lw now seems to prefer, the sons-in-law

Allofs, a quiet man himself, says

you do not only need players who say "Ja und AMEN"

Allofs then goes on to praise Frings EXCELLENT performance so far this season

Ale

+

interesting interview with Butt in Bild

although he thinks that Lw should stick with Adler now that he has publicly made him the number one

he also says something like this:

"the performance level (of a Nationalmannschaft keeper) has to be top in the Bundesliga. INTERNATIONAL games are also important. Generally speaking, young players get hyped up too quickly, sometimes within half a year. you have to play at a top-level , at a top club, over a LONG PERIOD, really"

which really means

Adler and Neuer are NOT it

Bild also points out that statistically, the best German Bundesliga keeper is BUTT
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Post by Stiftung Haeschentest on Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:25 pm



Biggrin
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Post by Antarion on Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:28 pm

lol!
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Post by Axeslammer on Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:27 pm

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you do not only need players who say "Ja und AMEN"


That explains why Die Mannschaft is nationalizing all kinds of foreigners Ale
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Post by  on Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:13 pm

Axeslammer wrote:
wrote:

you do not only need players who say "Ja und AMEN"


That explains why Die Mannschaft is nationalizing all kinds of foreigners Ale

that explains why so many fans, who still YEARN for players with ECKEN UND KANTEN, always

VOTE

Jerome BOATENG

into their preferred Mannschaft First XI

despite the fact

that the boy is not even starting for HSV anymore

and despite the fact that his few games for Germany

were SHITE

BOATENG

LOOKS like he's got EDGE

is GRITTY

and a TOUGH-BOY

........

Wrns now says that Lw probably only threw Frings out of the squad

because Lutscher sided with Ballack vs Klins/Lw in the past

and this is just revenge

Ale

Wrns stichelt: Torsten Frings zeigt aktuell recht ansprechende Leistungen bei Werder Bremen. Nicht genug jedoch fr Bundestrainer Joachim Lw, der den 33-Jhrigen bereits aus dem Nationalteam ausgebootet hat.

Dies wiederum bringt Christian Wrns auf die Palme, der vor der WM 2006 von Trainer Jrgen Klinsmann nicht bercksichtigt wurde. "Dass sich Lw schon so frh gegen Frings entschieden hat, obwohl er gut spielt, zeigt, dass es wohl keine sportlichen Grnde sind. Ich vermute, Frings ist nicht dabei, weil er damals beim Streit mit Lw auf Ballacks Seite war."

(spox.de)
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Post by Allez les rouges on Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:25 pm

Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:

Biggrin

Nothing more to be said really Laughing

Boateng's been fine for the N11 Otto, don't believe you even watch the games. Don't blame him for the red card against Russia, it was the result of sustained Russian pressure and was v little he could do about it...
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Post by Stiftung Haeschentest on Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:18 pm

I think Wrns is to me what Stein is to chrissi.

What a pathetic, resentful clown. Doh
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Post by  on Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:40 am

Neuer >>> Wiese >> Adler


according to kicker

http://www.fr-online.de/in_und_ausland/sport/aktuell/2438733_Koepke-vs.-Sammer-Flieg-Adler-flieg.html

Hitzfeld tells bild that anyone of Neuer, Adler, Wiese and even WEIDENFELLER could replace Butt eventually

interesting

WHY is NOBODY EVER speaking about Weidenfeller ??
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Post by Stiftung Haeschentest on Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:00 pm

Weidenfeller is a decent league keeper but nothing special. He's clearly not good enough for Bayern let alone for Germany.
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Post by  on Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:55 am

Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:Weidenfeller is a decent league keeper but nothing special. He's clearly not good enough for Bayern let alone for Germany.

Rolling Eyes

care to revise that statement, hase ?

I thought he was SUPERB against Leverkusen

cheers

as for Wiese

ANOTHER sensational performance

world class saves GALORE against Bochum cheers
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Post by Stiftung Haeschentest on Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:18 pm

wrote:
Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:Weidenfeller is a decent league keeper but nothing special. He's clearly not good enough for Bayern let alone for Germany.

Rolling Eyes

care to revise that statement, hase ?


Erm, no. Why would I?

As I said, he's a decent keeper, just not good enough to cut it at the top. One above average performance doesn't change this impression.
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Post by  on Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:36 pm

Sammer DISAGREES

lol!

he says Weidenfeller is amongst the TOP 4 keepers in Germany

and calls him "berragend"

Laugh

meanwhile, Weidenfeller and his agent launch a WITHERING attack on Lw and

KPKE

http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/artikel_215950.html

and you have to agree

ADLER is the number one

he is VERY SHAKY now

his ARSE is on the line

and yet

Kpke is nowhere to be seen

Doh

Leistungsprinzip, my arse

Grr
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Post by  on Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:26 am

good stuff on the Weidenfeller front

apparently, BOTH Kahn AND Hitzfeld demand that he'll get a chance at

Nationalmannschaft level

http://www.express.de/sport/fussball/borussia-dortmund/weidenfeller--attacke-gegen-koepke/-/3294/1221682/-/index.html

so

Sammer, Kahn and Hitzfeld

ALL

support him

what do THEY see

that hschen does NOT ?!

Whistle
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Post by  on Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:12 pm

Kpke now says he was watching the Bayern vs Frankfurt game

scratch

but WHY ?

does that mean he is losing interest in ADLER, WIESE

AND

NEUER

and considers going for BUTT ?

should he not concentrate on finding out whether Adler, his OFFICIAL number one

is holding up under the pressure ?

good stuff by Weidenfeller's AGENT

"Diese Aussage von Andreas Kpke besttigt nur, dass eine aktuelle Leistungskontrolle bei der Nationalmannschaft offenbar nicht mehr stattfindet. Das ist unerfreulich und nicht korrekt. Wenn ich schon zu Beginn des Schuljahres wei, wer Klassenbester wird, dann brauche ich auch keine Prfungen mehr zu schreiben. Deshalb ist es auch aus Kpkes Sicht nur konsequent, sich das Duell zwischen Oka Nikolov und Jrg Butt anzuschauen", sagte Becker.

http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/artikel_216253.html
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Post by Antarion on Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:23 pm

Kpke could be a Bayern fan, enjoying the game with a nice beer and then went home
heavily dissapointed by the defeat. poor lad.
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Post by Axeslammer on Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:03 pm

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should he not concentrate on finding out whether Adler, his OFFICIAL number one

is holding up under the pressure ?

He has concluded, as have those who understand football, that he is *not* holding up under pressure.

Shouldn't hurt Adler's chances of becoming Germany's number one though : none of your goalies are holding up under pressure Ale
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Post by  on Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:59 pm

good article about HSV

the same applies to Lw's Mannschaft, which is FAR too young and has no hierarchy any more

"Shne ohne Vter"

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1003/Artikel/hamburger-sv-absturz-krise-gruende-fehlende-fuehrungsspieler-hoffnung-auf-ruud-van-nistelrooy.html

Ale
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Post by  on Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:42 am

Axeslammer wrote:
wrote:

should he not concentrate on finding out whether Adler, his OFFICIAL number one

is holding up under the pressure ?

He has concluded, as have those who understand football, that he is *not* holding up under pressure.

Shouldn't hurt Adler's chances of becoming Germany's number one though : none of your goalies are holding up under pressure Ale

Lw now says that it's still in Adler's hands, but that TWO other goalies seem to be ready should Adler not rekindle the flame, which the Bundescremer considers to be unlikely

translated

we stick to the THREE : Adler, Neuer, Wiese

in which case you really DO wonder what Kpke was doing watching Butt

we have complete amateurs in charge scratch

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as for hase and Weidenfeller

you say Sammer benched him when he was at Dortmund

I hope that is a JOKE Very Happy

which CENTURY was that ??

and how old was Weidenfeller then ??

Whistle

regarding your arch-enemy FRINGS

who, apparently, has nothing to offer up-front anymore , according to Lw and yourself

well

his long-distance shot against Bochum was the WINNER (even if deflected)

and his SUPERB pass, across half the pitch, to Pizarro (vs Augsburg)

was mouthwatering and yet again

out of this world

+

clinching the victory

feel free to revise your opinion of the lad

Biggrin

as for Maria Riesch, our Goldmarie

she now says she is NOT interested in Weicheier

but

KERNIGE KERLE cheers

maybe Kahn or Frings are interested Whistle
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Post by Stiftung Haeschentest on Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:00 pm

First up Otto, I am fan of Borussia Dortmund. I have no intention whatsoever of slagging off Weidenfeller.

But truth be said, Wiese, Adler and Neuer have been doing better in the past three years, and although being (much) younger, have more and more recent experience in Europe as well.

They deserve to be ahead of him. It's as simply as that.

As for Frings, I am not going to repeat myself on him over and over again.

I (and Allez) have given you many good reasons for his omission from the Mannschaft after the EM - which you have chosen to ignore entirely.

His career for Germany - no matter whether rightly or wrongly - is over. Accept it and move on.
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Post by Axeslammer on Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:08 pm

Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:Accept it and move on.

Two of Otto's strongest points Wink
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Post by  on Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:30 am

SHAMBOLIC performance by Neuer against Hannover Yikes

+

dodgy game by Adler against Bayern Doh

confirms 100% what I have been saying with regards to the MANNSCHAFT

both Adler and Neuer are HUGE

TALENTS

NOT MORE

ie

neither should play a SINGLE minute for Germany in South Africa

I would pick Neuer as my number THREE for the experience

Wiese, Lehmann, Rost, Weidenfeller or Butt

should be our number ONE and TWOs

Ale

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under almost unbearable pressure to not just TALK about the Leistungsprinzip

but actually IMPLEMENT it

Lw is now caving in

over the CAUSA KURANA

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/schalke/2010/04/11/wm-hoffnung/die-kuranyi-sensation.html

cheers

wait for the entire German football establishment to APPLAUD the COURAGE of Lw

Laugh

God

I cannot wait for the BUndescremer to leave the Mannschaft

join HSV

and ruin the Metrosexuals FOR GOOD

Ale

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PS

a book about the Hoffenheim miracle just fell into my hands

called

"Das Wunder von Hoffenheim"

little protraits of the "revolutionaries" everywhere

I like the part about Dr Hermann, the sports psychologist

who is also in charge of that area under Lw (for the Mannschaft)

we learn that he believes in FLAT HIERARCHIES

(which Hitzelsperger just dismissed as NOT WORKING under most circumstances)

it's so lovey-dovey it's surreal Doh

no "walking acorss coals" (the Daum method) for him

no adventure holidays that forge team-spirit

no climbing in the mountains...: "the problem here is that some players have more courage than others and the more timid ones could feel left behind, isolated, which would be AGAINST any team-spirit"

Laugh

he , instead, emphasises MUTUAL RESPECT

and believes an atmosphere where everybody "feels happy" is particularly beneficial for high performance levels

RESPECT is the most imporant virtue in a team

respecful leadship leads to FUN, he tells us Ale

"wer brllt , hat selten Recht"

Hermann is against "Charakterschweine" , as demanded by van Bommel

the "nasty players" that Magath, Sammer, Hitzfeld ...like are OUT under Hermann

and says

" difficult people create FRICTION. in the short-run, this can help, but not in the long-run"

I wonder what Zidane, Lothar, Effe, Maradona, Sammer, Rooney, Terry, Henry, Eto O, Zlatan and Co make of that


Laugh

somehow they still got results, me thinks

WITHOUT holding hands and singing cum-ba-ya

Hermann effectively wants what we could call "Waldorffussball"

lol!

that's exactly what Lw is aiming for as well Doh

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then we have Wolfgang Peters

the guy Klinsi wated to install as Germany's sports director

not least to prevent Sammer from getting the job

Peters tells us that "German football is like a heavy tanker , that is difficult to steer"

he's responsible for youth development at Hoffenheim and has already written a book about his revolutionary ideas

bizarrely

Hoffe have recently gone for old fogeys like Simunic and NOT kids from their revolutionary academy

Peters' response

"we can only prepare them for professional football. they have to walk through THAT door themselves though"

Laugh

something old-fashioned Magath, who has little interest in revolutionary methods and does not like psychologists, does not seem to need

Laugh

I wonder why Hoffe are currently in free-fall considering that NOVEL approach to football

the team is falling apart

after the defeat against Wolfsburg , some of the players were "celebrating" in a disco

ALL of them seem to have lost their mojo and interest

where is the psychologist with his flat hierarchies now ? Laugh

would Magath really tolerate this current Hoffe nonsense ?

SAP billionaire Hopp certainly will NOT

he is losing patience with the team, and probably manager

and already says

that the team will go back to its roots and rely more on GERMAN players from now on

"BACK to the future"

is now the motto

the Klinsi-Lw-Flick-Siegenthaler-Hermann ERA is quickly coming to an end

me thinks

Ale
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Post by Allez les rouges on Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:47 am

You are truly only happy with a good old clich or stereotype or massive generalization to hang your hat on, are you not Otto. Somewhere inside you, methinks, there is a real beefy bulldog-style Anglo-Inselaffe champing at the bit to get out Smile

This flogging the dead horse of the keeper situation would be laughable and indeed rather amusing if it weren't so tired by now. Somewhere along the line it would be a good idea to recognize that your energies are better expended elsewhere others clearly have an entirely different view of their priorities in that department and unfortunately for you, they're in charge not you. Besides, for one thing, as good as it is to have quite a few decent keepers available, more than many countries, you can't run a World Cup squad on the basis of the latest Kicker rating table, that's just government by opinion poll. For another, I can't be the only person to take the view that there are far more urgent issues to address in the team than the goalkeeper.

Talking of which, the Kuranyi rethink is good news I guess. (Though this was already being mooted before the end of March in China/global media??)
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Post by  on Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:04 pm

Allez les rouges wrote:You are truly only happy with a good old clich or stereotype or massive generalization to hang your hat on, are you not Otto. Somewhere inside you, methinks, there is a real beefy bulldog-style Anglo-Inselaffe champing at the bit to get out Smile


says our resident

Waldorffan

Laugh

as for Neuer THIS weekend

hair-raisingly MAD , the lad

Adler: did you see the way he charged out of goal, and pulled his arms back on the edge of the penalty area, when he realised he had gone too far

Laugh

this has NOTHING to do with kicker grades

it's just slapstick stuff

amusing when he does it for Leverkusen

INFURIATING when it happens for the Vaterland

say, allez

did you follow the latest "Missbrauchflle" at German boarding schools like Ettal and the Odenwaldschule ?

would you say it's the same in UK boarding schools ?
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Post by  on Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:41 pm

Jgi trinkt seinen Kaffi



lol!
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Post by Allez les rouges on Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:42 pm

Waldorf salad? Who knows?

Not quite up to date Ottolein, though a friend of mine is wrapped up in a similar scandal at the moment Wink

(well, not so serious, more of the titillating variety)
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Post by  on Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:13 pm

Lwi watches a WERDER match

at LONG LAST

and sees a good WIESE game

Ale

and a BRILLIANT LUTSCHER (Frings) game

cheers

two goals by the Werder reject

the second one of SUCH beauty and skill

that we now know where Diego learnt his TRICKS

Yikes

in other words

it's now clear to EVERYBODY that Diego is really just a

"WHITE GERMAN"

Laugh

complete LUNACY that Frings, the BEST German DMC at the moment will NOT play in South Africa

and even bigger lunacy

considering that

Rolfes, Hitz and Kehl are NOT contenders for the World Cup either

SACK Lw

says I

Grr

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check out the Lehmann Sportstudio interview Ale

it's a bit muddled on the Mannschaft Goalie question

but really he says

that Adler and Neuer are too GREEN behind their ears to compete at World Cup level

he also says that since Lw went for them he has to stick it out now

Laugh

by the way

is KMH the most annoying sports interviewer on German TV ?

she is UNBEARABLE ?

then again Kerner is also unwatchable

ditto Steinbrecher, or whatever his name is

same applies to Poschner

so QUESTION

who is the WORST, fellow Germans ?
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Post by Axeslammer on Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:02 pm

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who is the WORST ?

Well, Neuer made a horrible blunder *yet again*....

....but according to you he's one of your WORLD CLASS GOALKEEPERS Razz
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Post by Ricardo Jol on Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:14 pm

Axeslammer wrote:
wrote:
who is the WORST ?

Well, Neuer made a horrible blunder *yet again*....

....but according to you he's one of your WORLD CLASS GOALKEEPERS Razz

Axe, Bayern, including VG want Neuer to replace that Butt head neaxt year...

Dzeko, Affelay, Raphina and Srna are others high on VG's list

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