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Ä

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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Ä on Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:55 am

blutgraetsche wrote:

If Schweinsteiger leads his team to the CL title, he'll be a worthy DFB captain, especially after what he went through last year. Going through hell and coming back victorious is a sign of a true leader.

forget about Schweini as captain

there are only two real contenders now

Weidenfeller ( who unfortunately is not even a member of the squad )

and

Thomas MÜLLER

HE should be our captain NOW

100 times more CAPTAIN material than Schweini

despite his age <Ale> 

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did anybody read that Flick now wants to become Sporting Director of the DFB ?

Yikes lol! Grr scratch Biggrin 

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meanwhile

take a look at THIS

http://www.spox.com/de/specials/audi-cup/1308/Artikel/kevin-prince-boateng-im-interview-frank-buschmann-weltstar-serie-a-bruder-jerome-borussia-dortmund-respekt-bayern.html

what an excellent interview with K-P Boateng

cheers 

am I the only one who feels he SHOULD be a starter for Germany ??

fuck

he would add the STEEL we so urgently need

not this Götze, Draxler , Kroos bullshit

but real MAN-STEEL

I guess THIS would be my German First XI  , in a classic 3-2-4-1-1

                               

                                           Weidenfeller

----------------Grosskreutz--------------Hummels-------------------------------- Jansen

------------------------------------Schweini---------------Gündogan

Müller---------------KP Boateng-----------------------------------------Reus

-------------------------------------------------Kiessling

                                  Klose


now THAT team would beat ANY alternative German team HANDS down

and lead us to World Cup glory

cheers
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by EMP on Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:01 pm

Ä wrote:
blutgraetsche wrote:

If Schweinsteiger leads his team to the CL title, he'll be a worthy DFB captain, especially after what he went through last year. Going through hell and coming back victorious is a sign of a true leader.

forget about Schweini as captain

there are only two real contenders now

Weidenfeller ( who unfortunately is not even a member of the squad )

and

Thomas MÜLLER

HE should be our captain NOW

100 times more CAPTAIN material than Schweini

despite his age <Ale> 

--------------

did anybody read that Flick now wants to become Sporting Director of the DFB ?

Yikes lol! Grr scratch Biggrin 

------------

meanwhile

take a look at THIS

http://www.spox.com/de/specials/audi-cup/1308/Artikel/kevin-prince-boateng-im-interview-frank-buschmann-weltstar-serie-a-bruder-jerome-borussia-dortmund-respekt-bayern.html

what an excellent interview with K-P Boateng

cheers 

am I the only one who feels he SHOULD be a starter for Germany ??

fuck

he would add the STEEL we so urgently need


not this Götze, Draxler , Kroos bullshit

but real MAN-STEEL

I guess THIS would be my German First XI  , in a classic 3-2-4-1-1

                               

                                           Weidenfeller

----------------Grosskreutz--------------Hummels-------------------------------- Jansen

------------------------------------Schweini---------------Gündogan

Müller---------------KP Boateng-----------------------------------------Reus

-------------------------------------------------Kiessling

                                  Klose


now THAT team would beat ANY alternative German team HANDS down

and lead us to World Cup glory

cheers

Is that possible now? He has played for Ghana at full international level and not just in friendlies.
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by blutgraetsche on Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:56 pm

That ship has sailed indeed, he can't play for Germany anymore.

Funny how Otto is a Boateng fan all of a sudden, I remember how he wanted to behead him when he fouled his darling Ballack prior to WC 2010, with the consequence of Ballack missing the WC and never play for Germany again. It basically finished his career.
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Xavier on Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:13 am

I still want to behead him for that
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Allez les rouges on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:11 pm

I'm never sure whether people are serious about Kießling in the national team. When you add Großkreutz and Jansen in a back three, it all gets a little too obvious...
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Ä on Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:31 am

can we now

please

ALL

AGREE

that

Löw

is utter shite

and HAS to GO

IMMEDIATELY

??????!!!!!!

what a clown

it's now a question of ALTERNATIVES

to still have a chance of winning the Cup in Brazil

option 1. : Heynckes

to get him, the DFB would have to sack Löw FIRST, Jupp is a real gent and would not agree to take the job as long as Löw was still in charge

option 2: Magath

again, he's on the market and almost certainly would take the job ; our problems at the back would be gone, and with the attacking options at our disposal, we would still play attractive, high scoring football

option 3:

Daum

would drive Hoeness nuts, but he is too busy talking to his lawyers to prevent a Daum take-over

option 4:

Lothar

he's been a lot more successful as a coach than most haters would like to admit. and let's face it, we don't need a HUGELY experienced manager with those players as long as we get the basics right

option 5:

frankly, a whole range of ex-players who, see above, understand the basics of winning

Effenberg, yes, also Völler, Ballack (who could do a Beckenbauer)...

option 6 (which really should be option 4 ):

Hrubesch

what a legend as player AND manager

already works for the DFB, and has shown that he has a "Händchen" for the current generation of players

Ale
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by EMP on Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:50 pm

Ä wrote:can we now

please

ALL

AGREE

that

Löw

is utter shite

and HAS to GO

IMMEDIATELY

??????!!!!!!

what a clown

it's now a question of ALTERNATIVES

to still have a chance of winning the Cup in Brazil

option 1. : Heynckes

to get him, the DFB would have to sack Löw FIRST, Jupp is a real gent and would not agree to take the job as long as Löw was still in charge

option 2: Magath

again, he's on the market and almost certainly would take the job ; our problems at the back would be gone, and with the attacking options at our disposal, we would still play attractive, high scoring football

option 3:

Daum

would drive Hoeness nuts, but he is too busy talking to his lawyers to prevent a Daum take-over

option 4:

Lothar

he's been a lot more successful as a coach than most haters would like to admit. and let's face it, we don't need a HUGELY experienced manager with those players as long as we get the basics right

option 5:

frankly, a whole range of ex-players who, see above, understand the basics of winning

Effenberg, yes, also Völler, Ballack (who could do a Beckenbauer)...

option 6 (which really should be option 4 ):

Hrubesch

what a legend as player AND manager

already works for the DFB, and has shown that he has a "Händchen" for the current generation of players

Ale
I can see options 1-3 being worth trying, even 6, but given that time is running out if you seriously intend to be contenders in Brasil, are inexperienced, or comparatively unsuccessful coaches worth considering now? Perhaps later after being a number 2 to Heynckes for example to learn from the best, but are they really worth taking on a risk on right now?
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:53 pm

Heynckes would be perfect, it just won't happen unfortunately. The problem is: Who is going to sack Löw? Niersbach? You're having a laugh. There simply are not enough people with cojones in charge of the DFB, just a bunch of spineless technocrats.

I'm afraid that we will have to wait until 2014 and waste another tournament. My only hope is that
a) Pep manages to find a balanced solution to the 4-1-4-1 system which Löw now preferres and could copy, as he simply fails to implement it properly himself and
b) Flick really gets the sporting director job, which would be a mild catastrophe itself, but would at least give us the chance of a new, far more competent assistant coach who actually knows a thing or two about organising a defence.
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Antarion on Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:05 pm

Heynckes, Sammer, Hrubesch or Raab
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Ä on Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:57 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Heynckes would be perfect, it just won't happen unfortunately. The problem is: Who is going to sack Löw? Niersbach? You're having a laugh. There simply are not enough people with cojones in charge of the DFB, just a bunch of spineless technocrats.

I'm afraid that we will have to wait until 2014 and waste another tournament. My only hope is that
a) Pep manages to find a balanced solution to the 4-1-4-1 system which Löw now preferres and could copy, as he simply fails to implement it properly himself and
b) Flick really gets the sporting director job, which would be a mild catastrophe itself, but would at least give us the chance of a new, far more competent assistant coach who actually knows a thing or two about organising a defence.
indeed it won't happen

Niersbach even wants to extend Löw's contract BEFORE the next WC Shocked 

having said that

what these clowns say in public and plan behind closed doors are often different things

Zwanziger, for instance, was VERY close to SACKING Klinsi after the debacle against Italia in Florence, contrary to his public support

ie

IF

Die Mannschaft produces a few more nonsensical games like the ones against Sweden or now Paraguay, ANYTHING can happen

just read what our useless hacks are now saying

they are cooling on Löw BIG TIME

Flick leaving would not change ANYTHING though

other than fuck up the entire DFB structure Rolling Eyes 

Löw would just find a Flick clone, or maybe even promote Ziegenthaler Shocked 

as for antari's suggestions

cheers 

totally forgot about Sammer cheers 

and yes

RAAB would lead Germany to World Cup glory

100%

cheers cheers cheers 

his sidekicks would be Calmund and Buschi

lol! 
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Ä on Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:32 am

we need this Sammer attitude for Germany, Die Mannschaft

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/matthias-sammer/ansage-an-den-rest-der-liga-31863830.bild.html

THAT is precisely what got us our titles

not this tikitaka, false-nine bullshit
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Antarion on Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:32 pm

director Flick Laugh 
2016 Laugh 
Löw Laugh 
contracts Laugh 
köpke, bierhoff Laugh 
#aufschrei
this is the end
kahn (-strauß +eier) where?

Doh
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by blutgraetsche on Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:53 pm

It's just BILD and not official now, is it? If it's true, we're fucked.
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Ä on Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:58 pm

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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Ä on Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:57 pm

only a lunatic still believes we have a chance of winning the WC

yesterday was a Bankrotterkärung

it's still not too late to SACK LÖW

a Heynckes, Magath, Daum, Klopp, Hitz... or even Hrubesch in charge

and Germany would become World Champs

100%

probably blindfolded playing in sandals with white socks

German football was always about

WINNING CUPS

now it's about entertainment and flair

we all know how THAT ends

just think of Oranje

Spain may have a reputation for FLAIR and technical brilliance

BUT

look at how few goals they score

and more importantly

how few goals they concede

allez's attack on blut's criticism of Löw is one of the most depressing posts

in recent years

it's so Dutch

it's so Arsenal

you want to scream

I have said it MANY TIMES

YEAR

after

YEAR

after

YEAR

it's not too late to SACK LÖW

it's silly to write off the Brazil WC, as blut seems to do

if we get rid of LÖW NOW

world glory is ours

if we don't

we will win new fans the world over and drive our friend pierre totally nuts

BUT

an entire generation of German football will have been wasted

honestly

it's not worth it

SACK LÖW NOW

Ale
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by blutgraetsche on Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:27 pm

Otto, how do you want to sack Löw? He is going to extend his contract, he will get his lackey Flick the sporting director position, further increasing his power in the DFB. Niersbach is a spineless technocrat with no genuine authority whatsoever and he is a Löw fan, like most of the DFB board.

But even if Löw was miraculously sacked, who is going to replace him? Heynckes has retired, Klopp won't leave Dortmund yet, Hrubesch isn't proven on this level yet and commited to the U21. Who else? Hitzfeld just qualified for the WC with Switzerland. Magath and Daum haven't been working for a while and are not of the same calibre. The new guys like Tuchel and Streich lack experience on this level also.

If we had the slightest chance of getting Heynckes or Klopp, I'd suicide bomb Löw myself. But it's not realistic, so we're stuck with him for now. The best hope we have is him getting a more competent assistant coach, preferably one who knows a thing or two about organising a defence, now that Flick is going to leave. That and the small probability of the team winning despite Löw's tactical shortcomings.
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Ä on Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:00 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Otto, how do you want to sack Löw? He is going to extend his contract, he will get his lackey Flick the sporting director position, further increasing his power in the DFB. Niersbach is a spineless technocrat with no genuine authority whatsoever and he is a Löw fan, like most of the DFB board.

But even if Löw was miraculously sacked, who is going to replace him? Heynckes has retired, Klopp won't leave Dortmund yet, Hrubesch isn't proven on this level yet and commited to the U21. Who else? Hitzfeld just qualified for the WC with Switzerland. Magath and Daum haven't been working for a while and are not of the same calibre. The new guys like Tuchel and Streich lack experience on this level also.

If we had the slightest chance of getting Heynckes or Klopp, I'd suicide bomb Löw myself. But it's not realistic, so we're stuck with him for now. The best hope we have is him getting a more competent assistant coach, preferably one who knows a thing or two about organising a defence, now that Flick is going to leave. That and the small probability of the team winning despite Löw's tactical shortcomings.
we can agree that people like Niersbach would NEVER sack Löw

certainly not now

so it won't happen

even if it should

with the players at hand though, you don't need a managerial genius

you need somebody who understands the art of winning, and Magath, Daum, Hrubesch... all fit the bill

certainly Heynckes

Löw's assistant won't change anything

the team plays EXACTLY how Löw wants them to play

there will not be a STRONG second man

nor a defensively brilliant one, since Löw does not believe in defence

where we see gaping holes at the back, he sees tiny cracks that, with the right preparation, are easily papered over

he cannot solve a problem he does not see

as I said, you don't need a managerial superbrain to coach the likes of Müller, Reus and Co

you need somebody who understands that Cups are only won with a strong defence

who builds his team from the back rather than the front

whether Löw extends his contract now or not

he will be out after the World Cup and unless Flick takes over, we will win the next Euros 100%

even with Hecking, Slomka or , dare I say, Vogts or Ribbeck in charge

Shocked Embarassed Erm Yikes 

and the entire Klinsi-Löw ERA will EVENTUALLY

enter German football history

as the DARK AGES of German football

Yikes 

allez reminds me of one of those 1980s lefty DKP activists

who sent their kids to bootcamps in East Germany

then again

many of them ended up in senior positions of the Green Party

and later even in Government (just think of Trittin)

so bless him
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:26 am

Depressing news - Flick to remain Löw's assistant for the WC and take over the sporting director job after the WC.... Rolling Eyes
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Allez les rouges on Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:35 am

Ä wrote:
blutgraetsche wrote:Otto, how do you want to sack Löw? He is going to extend his contract, he will get his lackey Flick the sporting director position, further increasing his power in the DFB. Niersbach is a spineless technocrat with no genuine authority whatsoever and he is a Löw fan, like most of the DFB board.

But even if Löw was miraculously sacked, who is going to replace him? Heynckes has retired, Klopp won't leave Dortmund yet, Hrubesch isn't proven on this level yet and commited to the U21. Who else? Hitzfeld just qualified for the WC with Switzerland. Magath and Daum haven't been working for a while and are not of the same calibre. The new guys like Tuchel and Streich lack experience on this level also.

If we had the slightest chance of getting Heynckes or Klopp, I'd suicide bomb Löw myself. But it's not realistic, so we're stuck with him for now. The best hope we have is him getting a more competent assistant coach, preferably one who knows a thing or two about organising a defence, now that Flick is going to leave. That and the small probability of the team winning despite Löw's tactical shortcomings.
we can agree that people like Niersbach would NEVER sack Löw

certainly not now

so it won't happen

even if it should

with the players at hand though, you don't need a managerial genius

you need somebody who understands the art of winning, and Magath, Daum, Hrubesch... all fit the bill

certainly Heynckes

Löw's assistant won't change anything

the team plays EXACTLY how Löw wants them to play

there will not be a STRONG second man

nor a defensively brilliant one, since Löw does not believe in defence

where we see gaping holes at the back, he sees tiny cracks that, with the right preparation, are easily papered over

he cannot solve a problem he does not see

as I said, you don't need a managerial superbrain to coach the likes of Müller, Reus and Co

you need somebody who understands that Cups are only won with a strong defence

who builds his team from the back rather than the front

whether Löw extends his contract now or not

he will be out after the World Cup and unless Flick takes over, we will win the next Euros 100%

even with Hecking, Slomka or , dare I say, Vogts or Ribbeck in charge

Shocked Embarassed Erm Yikes 

and the entire Klinsi-Löw ERA will EVENTUALLY

enter German football history

as the DARK AGES of German football

Yikes 

allez reminds me of one of those 1980s lefty DKP activists

who sent their kids to bootcamps in East Germany

then again

many of them ended up in senior positions of the Green Party

and later even in Government (just think of Trittin)

so bless him
I couldn't be less left-wing, more anti-Green or more anti-DDR. You're probably thinking of Blut. So fuck you.

You know nothing about football, you're not a fan, so why you're still posting here is a mystery to me.

If you actually read my post on the national thread, it was overwhelmingly about tone and constructiveness, not about substantive criticism where I agree with Blut (not you) 100%. I see clueless wanky German whingers commenting everywhere online (thankfully not in real life), so I'm sick of it. Nothing's to be gained from moaning constantly at EVERYTHING now when we're stuck with Löw.
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:40 am

Allez is a good guy, I'm glad to have you around. Ale

I always thought you to be more of the libertarian / free market guy, so I thought that otto's comment sounded strange, too.

I'm no commie, though. Left -leaning, maybe, but more of the anarchist type. Anti-state and anti-authority, too (for good reason, see NSA scandal), but not just for those who can afford it. Smile
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Ä on Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:07 pm

Allez les rouges wrote:
Ä wrote:
blutgraetsche wrote:Otto, how do you want to sack Löw? He is going to extend his contract, he will get his lackey Flick the sporting director position, further increasing his power in the DFB. Niersbach is a spineless technocrat with no genuine authority whatsoever and he is a Löw fan, like most of the DFB board.

But even if Löw was miraculously sacked, who is going to replace him? Heynckes has retired, Klopp won't leave Dortmund yet, Hrubesch isn't proven on this level yet and commited to the U21. Who else? Hitzfeld just qualified for the WC with Switzerland. Magath and Daum haven't been working for a while and are not of the same calibre. The new guys like Tuchel and Streich lack experience on this level also.

If we had the slightest chance of getting Heynckes or Klopp, I'd suicide bomb Löw myself. But it's not realistic, so we're stuck with him for now. The best hope we have is him getting a more competent assistant coach, preferably one who knows a thing or two about organising a defence, now that Flick is going to leave. That and the small probability of the team winning despite Löw's tactical shortcomings.
we can agree that people like Niersbach would NEVER sack Löw

certainly not now

so it won't happen

even if it should

with the players at hand though, you don't need a managerial genius

you need somebody who understands the art of winning, and Magath, Daum, Hrubesch... all fit the bill

certainly Heynckes

Löw's assistant won't change anything

the team plays EXACTLY how Löw wants them to play

there will not be a STRONG second man

nor a defensively brilliant one, since Löw does not believe in defence

where we see gaping holes at the back, he sees tiny cracks that, with the right preparation, are easily papered over

he cannot solve a problem he does not see

as I said, you don't need a managerial superbrain to coach the likes of Müller, Reus and Co

you need somebody who understands that Cups are only won with a strong defence

who builds his team from the back rather than the front

whether Löw extends his contract now or not

he will be out after the World Cup and unless Flick takes over, we will win the next Euros 100%

even with Hecking, Slomka or , dare I say, Vogts or Ribbeck in charge

Shocked Embarassed Erm Yikes 

and the entire Klinsi-Löw ERA will EVENTUALLY

enter German football history

as the DARK AGES of German football

Yikes 

allez reminds me of one of those 1980s lefty DKP activists

who sent their kids to bootcamps in East Germany

then again

many of them ended up in senior positions of the Green Party

and later even in Government (just think of Trittin)

so bless him
I couldn't be less left-wing, more anti-Green or more anti-DDR. You're probably thinking of Blut. So fuck you.

You know nothing about football, you're not a fan, so why you're still posting here is a mystery to me.
niveaulos, bräsig, peinlich, frech

einfach nichts hinzuzufügen

and you have the cheek to lecture others about the TONE of their posts


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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Fey on Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:43 pm

Low is like Rathenau..you have to take matters in your own hand! 

No way, he is stopping that top paid job.

So there is the answer for the ones that want to get rid of him.

Otto is right that the current Germany SCREAMS Arsenal+Holland.

But is it really a bad thing? 

Is winning silverware more important then winning hearts

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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:38 pm

Yes.  Fuck the hearts of the world as long as ours bleed. We only 'win' those hearts because we play well and lose.  Nobody grants us anything,  we have to fucking take it.  Envy and poorly veiled hatred as far as the eye can see.
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by debaser on Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:55 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Yes.  Fuck the hearts of the world as long as ours bleed.
Germans have hearts Shocked
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Puro on Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:16 am

Germany still have time to fix that awful team they have but time's running out!
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by blutgraetsche on Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:35 am

Interesting news: According to BILD, there will be a release clause in Löw's new contract. If Germany fail to advance from the group stages next year, the DFB have the right to end the contract. Löw also has the right to end the contract basically whenever he likes to.

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/nachgehakt/geheim-klausel-im-loew-vertrag-33018594.bild.html
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Allez les rouges on Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:21 am

Ä wrote:
Allez les rouges wrote:
Ä wrote:
blutgraetsche wrote:Otto, how do you want to sack Löw? He is going to extend his contract, he will get his lackey Flick the sporting director position, further increasing his power in the DFB. Niersbach is a spineless technocrat with no genuine authority whatsoever and he is a Löw fan, like most of the DFB board.

But even if Löw was miraculously sacked, who is going to replace him? Heynckes has retired, Klopp won't leave Dortmund yet, Hrubesch isn't proven on this level yet and commited to the U21. Who else? Hitzfeld just qualified for the WC with Switzerland. Magath and Daum haven't been working for a while and are not of the same calibre. The new guys like Tuchel and Streich lack experience on this level also.

If we had the slightest chance of getting Heynckes or Klopp, I'd suicide bomb Löw myself. But it's not realistic, so we're stuck with him for now. The best hope we have is him getting a more competent assistant coach, preferably one who knows a thing or two about organising a defence, now that Flick is going to leave. That and the small probability of the team winning despite Löw's tactical shortcomings.
we can agree that people like Niersbach would NEVER sack Löw

certainly not now

so it won't happen

even if it should

with the players at hand though, you don't need a managerial genius

you need somebody who understands the art of winning, and Magath, Daum, Hrubesch... all fit the bill

certainly Heynckes

Löw's assistant won't change anything

the team plays EXACTLY how Löw wants them to play

there will not be a STRONG second man

nor a defensively brilliant one, since Löw does not believe in defence

where we see gaping holes at the back, he sees tiny cracks that, with the right preparation, are easily papered over

he cannot solve a problem he does not see

as I said, you don't need a managerial superbrain to coach the likes of Müller, Reus and Co

you need somebody who understands that Cups are only won with a strong defence

who builds his team from the back rather than the front

whether Löw extends his contract now or not

he will be out after the World Cup and unless Flick takes over, we will win the next Euros 100%

even with Hecking, Slomka or , dare I say, Vogts or Ribbeck in charge

Shocked Embarassed Erm Yikes 

and the entire Klinsi-Löw ERA will EVENTUALLY

enter German football history

as the DARK AGES of German football

Yikes 

allez reminds me of one of those 1980s lefty DKP activists

who sent their kids to bootcamps in East Germany

then again

many of them ended up in senior positions of the Green Party

and later even in Government (just think of Trittin)

so bless him
I couldn't be less left-wing, more anti-Green or more anti-DDR. You're probably thinking of Blut. So fuck you.

You know nothing about football, you're not a fan, so why you're still posting here is a mystery to me.
niveaulos, bräsig, peinlich, frech

einfach nichts hinzuzufügen

and you have the cheek to lecture others about the TONE of their posts
Pots/kettles, motes/beams, man/ball, ad hominem.

Ich soll ein nützlicher Idiot der Stasi sein, und du dozierst über "Niveau" Laugh
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by blutgraetsche on Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:56 pm

Löw contract extension officially confirmed in a press conference. This bit by Löw is interesting:

...über Flicks Nachfolger: "Ich habe mir konkret noch keine Gedanken gemacht. Ich werde mich aber in den nächsten Wochen damit beschäftigen. Da wir aber bis zur WM 2014 noch zusammenarbeiten, ist das kein akutes Problem. Es wäre durchaus mal eine Überlegung wert, den Nachfolger bereits frühzeitig in manche Abläufe einzubinden. Es wäre vielleicht auch denkbar, dass er bereits bei der WM zum Team gehört."
So it's possible that Flick's successor may be part of the WC team next year.
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by blutgraetsche on Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:58 pm

Comment on Löw's contract extension:

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/dfb-team/1310/Artikel/vertrag-mit-variablen-joachim-loew-verlaengert-vertrag-beim-nationalteam-wolfgang-niersbach.html


It all boils down to this: There are two ways to get rid of Löw: Either Germany have a catastrophic WC, e.g. not making it out of their group, or they win the title. If the former happens, the DFB have the right to end the contract and most likely would do so. In the latter, rather unlikely case, Löw would step down himself.

The absolute worst case scenario would be another semi-final or final loss, as it would increase the chance of Löw continuing dramatically...
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Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW

Post by Antarion on Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:50 am

Germany to bid for the EC 2024!

Would be nice but I could imagine that Italy, Spain or Turkey also have a good chance. The latter only if they don't get to host semifinals/finals in 2020.

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