"Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

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who should replace Klinsi ?

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anglophileHedgehog

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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by anglophileHedgehog on Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:32 pm

Klinsi RAUS ! wrote:
Lesley wrote:
Klinsi RAUS ! wrote:"at virtually every club he would be an automatic starter"

I doubt that actually.

where would he not be ?
Stuttgart. Whistle We have Bastürk and Lanig and Simak and Khedira and...
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by Lesley on Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:04 pm

Hamburg. Bremen. I guess you could add Schalke to the list.

Generally all the big name ones, the ones at the top of the table.

Of course you could send him to some middle class club, if that helps. It probably would, just to give him match practise.
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by Ä on Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:29 pm

The TROCH

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/nationalmannschaft/2008/10/16/tor-held-piotr-trochowski/bayern-hat-ihn-verpennt.html

http://www.fr-online.de/in_und_ausland/sport/aktuell/1614378_70-Kilo-Qualitaet.html

"""Mit Verspätung scheint sich das Urteil von Bayern-Boss Karl-Heinz Rummenigge zu erfüllen, der einst, nachdem er den jungen Trochowski bei den Amateuren des FC Bayern dribbeln und passen gesehen hatte, sinngemäß sagte: Wenn der es nicht im Profiteam des Rekordmeisters schaffe, laufe an der Säbener Straße etwas verkehrt.

Es ist wohl verkehrt gelaufen:
Mit dem FC Bayern hat der vertraglich bis 2011 an die Hanseaten gebundene Profi gar nichts mehr im Sinn"""

only at Bayern Laugh

HELL FOR GERMAN TALENTS
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Ä

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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by Ä on Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:06 am

Klinsi gives a similar interview to DSF

"Man nimmt die sachliche Kritik natürlich an, die unsachliche lässt man links liegen. Es gehört auch zu dem Job dazu, dass man es nicht allen Leuten recht machen kann.""

lol!

wem hat Klinsi es bisher denn recht gemacht ???

Laugh

der Mann lebt in seiner eigenen Frantasiewelt Yikes
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by chrissicross on Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:28 am

Klinsi RAUS ! wrote:wem hat Klinsi es bisher denn recht gemacht ???
Mir. Biggrin
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Lesley

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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by Lesley on Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:53 pm

chrissicross wrote:
Klinsi RAUS ! wrote:wem hat Klinsi es bisher denn recht gemacht ???
Mir. Biggrin

Laugh
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by Calidad on Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:28 pm

Klinsi RAUS ! wrote:another dreadful 10 days for Klinsi Grinsi

first the defeat by Ingolstadt's B-Team

NOW

Poldi turns on the heat against Russia and scores a beauty + is as good as any other striker against Wales

then

van Bommel, who was just accused by Klinsi of not being good enough ("er kann nicht umsetzen, was wir hier machen wollen") scores the only goal for Holland, when VDV, van PErsie, Kuyt and Co failed to hit the net

how come Poldi and der Bommel are good enough for Germany and Holland but deemed to be "not good enough" for Bayern by Klinsi ?

Laugh

meanwhile, Toni does not score at all for Italy (would be difficult sitting on the bench),

Klose is certainly NOT better than Poldi against Russia and WAles

and Bommel's main opponents for a place on the lawn have not seen much action either (Ottl, Borowski, Ze Roberto...)

ah

and

Trochowski , the Bayern reject, was impressing as well

what a bad ten days for Hoeness, Dummenigge and Klinsi

cheers

Don't think Van Bommel is good enough for Holland. Been very ordinary since his move from PSV. Bayern can do much, much better.
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by Ä on Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:06 am

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/bayern/2008/10/18/juergen-klinsmann/watscht-lukas-podolski-schon-wieder-ab.html

Klinsi basically tells Poldi he has fluffed his chance

whatever happens in the NAtionalmannschaft is irrelevant

he has not shown anything at Bayern yet and therefore has no chance of pushing Toni or Klose out of the starting 11

considering that Klose and Toni are hardly setting the world alight in Munich and bearing in mind that Toni is piss-poor in training, as even Hitz and Hoenss have admitted, Klinsi's anit-Poldi campaign defies belief

not least , since Klinsi himself neds to be successful and out of spite and stubborness is threatening his own future at the club

Klinsi was the one who negotiated a contract at Spurs that guaranteed a starting place

at Bayern he was so furious to be taken off by Traps that he kicked the Sanyo Advertising Battery

but Poldi is supposed to happily sit on the bench, not complain publicly and accept that despite being the best Bayern striker at the moment, he has ZERO chance of playing from the start

Klinsi is the most vindictive, hateful and dishonest man in German football

die Personifizierung der Verlogenheit

when Wörns called him "LINK" he was 100% spot on

Klinsi RAUS

say I
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by Ricardo Jol on Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:18 am

It's time for Louis van Gaal says I!
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by Ä on Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:25 am

Klinsi is stubborn

van Gaal is a stubborn as well

they would have similar problems

Bayern should try to get Jol
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by Ricardo Jol on Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:28 am

Klinsi RAUS ! wrote:Klinsi is stubborn

van Gaal is a stubborn as well

they would have similar problems

Bayern should try to get Jol
Please... no... Shocked I can't support Bayern.... I definitely can't.... Shocked

BTW he played for Bayern in the past so you never know...... Nah.... He won't do that....!
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Ä

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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by Ä on Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:42 am

Jol seems to be happy in Hamburg and HSV seem to be happy with him

but in a few years time, why should he not return to the club he played for in the past ?
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by Ricardo Jol on Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:47 am

Klinsi RAUS ! wrote:Jol seems to be happy in Hamburg and HSV seem to be happy with him

but in a few years time, why should he not return to the club he played for in the past ?

you mean he goes back to Den Haag.....cheers

Having said this I am very glad with our Haagse Moluccan "Wetzel the Wizard" at the moment!
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by chrissicross on Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:28 am

Klinsi legt noch mal nach: „Er hatte bei uns viele Momente, wo er sich zeigen konnte. Er hat sie nicht genutzt. Deshalb sind Klose und Toni absolut gesetzt.“

Hmm, doesn't sound like Poldi has a future at Bayern. A pity he´s too expensive for Bremen.
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by Ä on Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:49 am

Poldi is NOT too expensive for Bremen

whatever he costs, Werder are creditworthy and would be able to get the money

remember, the boy is young and his resale value will be higher than what Bayern would demand now

two to three years of regular football and the ENTIRE world will talk about the lad

ANY club that buys him will make a profit when he moves on
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by chrissicross on Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:58 am

You´re daydreaming, Otto. Wink
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by Ä on Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:02 pm

chrissi

you have to think like a Hamburger

EVERYBODY said VDV would NEVER go to HSV

he DID

HSV also bought two young exciting Brazilians now

for a lot less money that people thought

IMPOSSIBLE is NOTHING

maybe we will give you Beiersdorfer for a few weeks as some kind of "Entwicklungshilfe" für den klammen Bruder im Norden

:Wink

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Post by Glenarch of the Glen on Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:09 pm

Klinsi has ambition and focus by the bucket load and will walk over dead people to reach his goal

You've thought about it.
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by chrissicross on Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:29 pm

Klinsi RAUS ! wrote:chrissi

you have to think like a Hamburger

EVERYBODY said VDV would NEVER go to HSV

he DID

HSV also bought two young exciting Brazilians now

for a lot less money that people thought

IMPOSSIBLE is NOTHING

maybe we will give you Beiersdorfer for a few weeks as some kind of "Entwicklungshilfe" für den klammen Bruder im Norden

:Wink
Otto, my good old friend, we´re probably talking about 20m+ here for Poldi, not about 5m for VDV. And I seriously doubt Bayern would give us Poldi for a "bargain"...

Apart from that I don´t think Allofs needs a lesson in "kreativer Buchführung" from Didi and Bernd... Wink
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Post by Ä on Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:20 am

Rangnick hält, was Klinsi verspricht

http://www.sportbild.de//de/sportbild/generated/article/fussball/2008/10/19/10606000000.html

Rangnick: humble, entertaining and successful with limited means

Klinsi: self-obsessed, preaching, unwatchable and unsuccessful with the most expensive (and previously victorious) squad in Bundesliga history

you figure it out

Ale
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Post by Lesley on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:36 pm

Klinsi RAUS ! wrote:maybe we will give you Beiersdorfer for a few weeks as some kind of "Entwicklungshilfe" für den klammen Bruder im Norden

:Wink

Suspect
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Post by Lesley on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:41 pm

chrissicross wrote:Apart from that I don´t think Allofs needs a lesson in "kreativer Buchführung" from Didi and Bernd... Wink

Just wondering: are you implying anything here?
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Post by Ä on Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:05 pm

http://www.welt.de/sport/article2597593/Mit-Hitzfelds-Taktik-ist-Bayern-wieder-erfolgreich.html

Klinsi survives Karlsruhe game by abandoning his own ideas + by reverting to Hitzfeld tactics
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Post by fcb on Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:08 pm

Can you translate that pls...would be interested in reading it. Is welt.de a proper site with inside info, or just a tabloid that's speculating?
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Post by Ä on Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:10 am

@kas

Klinsi is using the SAME starting 11 NOW as Hitz did in the past (only difference being Oddo)

no more rotation

no more 3.5.2

van Bommel is back

no more kamikaze football

+

what Germans call : Bayern Munich Duselfussball

ie: playing badly, yet still winning seemingly luckily in the dying seconds of a game

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Klinsi is really completely discredited now

van Bommel just gave a post-Karlsruhe interview in which he said that he had played well twice for Holland over the last days + now against the Swabians, and that really, there was and never had been anything wrong with him at all: " all I need to do is to play"

asked about Poldi, the Dutchie said: "Poldi is an excellent footballer. the same applies to him. if he gets a chance to show what he can do, he will"

contrast this with Klinsi, who REPEATEDLY has questioned van Bommel's and Poldi's quality, committment and dedication and you now see that the captain

a) fundamentally disagrees

b) is happy to disagree with Klinsi Grins PUBLICLY despite repeated attempts to intimidate and silence him

+

van Bommel now suggested that Bayern revert to their old tactics under Hitz

ie a 442 with TWO DMCs (possibly with only one striker)

Klinsi prefers to play with ONE DMC and TWO strikers

considering that Ze Roberto and Lahm have also suggested to go back to the Hitz system it becomes obvious that Klinsi is totally isolated , that NOBODY values his "expertise"

just like in the Nationalmannschaft, the players feel Klinsi is undermining their efforts

+ Ze Roberto is thriving under the Californian, yet even he cannot stand his tactics

the only question now is whether Bayern should LOSE tonight or not

part of me tells me that Bayern should become 3rd in their CL group and collect points for the BUndesliga in the UEFA Cup

this way Klinsi would have to resign SOON and we would still get the points

having said that , I am not sure I can stand another Italian triumph over a German team

what a pickle to be in Yikes
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by Axeslammer on Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:27 am

Klinsi RAUS ! wrote:
what Germans call : Bayern Munich Duselfussball

ie: playing badly, yet still winning seemingly luckily in the dying seconds of a game


Aghaa, that's known in the rest of the world as "German football" Wink
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Post by Ä on Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:37 am

@axe

what do you make of Rutten's treatment of Höwedes ?

Yikes

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/artikel/384231/

Luhukay also treated the young German talent Baumjohann like $h!t

and I wonder whether Jol will give Chopo-Moting any games when he is back from injury

Dutch managers seem to be poison for German talents

(Troch under STevens is another example)

Yikes
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Post by Axeslammer on Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:42 pm

Klinsi RAUS ! wrote:

(Troch under STevens is another example)

Yikes

Don't know anything about the rest, so can't judge on it.

Troch under Stevens was logical and I've said that before on these boards : Trochowski & VDV are the same type of players and you don't play two of them in the same team.

Trochowski is potentially world class, but he had the bad luck that the best player in the world was also in the same squad. In any other team Trochowski would have been a starter much sooner....

That has nothing to do with Stevens...
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Post by Ä on Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:45 pm

Gilardino now says

"Seria A >> Bundesliga"

ok

this is it

Klinsi Grinsi HAS to win tonight

we have to postpone his sacking to save German pride

wahre G
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Re: "Klinsi SACKED: van GAAL to come"

Post by Lesley on Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:10 pm

Axeslammer wrote:
Klinsi RAUS ! wrote:

(Troch under STevens is another example)

Yikes

Don't know anything about the rest, so can't judge on it.

Troch under Stevens was logical and I've said that before on these boards : Trochowski & VDV are the same type of players and you don't play two of them in the same team.

Trochowski is potentially world class, but he had the bad luck that the best player in the world was also in the same squad. In any other team Trochowski would have been a starter much sooner....

That has nothing to do with Stevens...


Plus it's also a fact that Troche DID play quite a lot under Stevens. At least during the 07/08 season. It's true that he was often taken off the pitch as one of the first players (usually around the 70th minute), but most of the time that happened for a reason. He simply didn't play well.

Of course, van der Vaart did have something to do with it, because the other players in the team used to "hide" behind him, when he was on the pitch and waited for him to do the great stuff. But "Troche didn't play under Stevens" is simply a fairy tale.

He was also backed by the local media, probably because he was our only player in the German national team then and therefore was something like "everybody's darling" in Hamburg. The poor little thing, whose national team career was destroyed by his club coach. And that's a little too easy.

I do agree that Jol is the better coach for both Troche and many of the others players at HSV. I think they are simply getting along with him better, and it's no secret that many players need to feel comfortable at their club and with their coach, if you want them to perform at their top level.

P.S.: Axe, the "best player in the world" comment was a joke, right? Laughing

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