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COPA LIBERTADORES!

Post by Puro on Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:54 pm

It's on. Sporting Cristal against Estudiantes with their recently crowned "South America's best player" Verón. Gotta love the hype, when you own the media you can name whoever you want as "best player". Biggrin

Anyway Sporting Cristal vs Estudiantes it's on right now. cheers

Vamos Cristal, San Martín, and Universitario!!! cheers
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Post by Ricardo Jol on Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:05 pm

Keep us up to date on here. The Fuckos in the Netherlands don't give a damn about this copa. So you hardly find well info here...

BTW....How come Alianza Lima is doing so bad in the league? Are those Fuckos also member of Alianza?
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Post by Puro on Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:03 pm

Ricardo Jol wrote:Keep us up to date on here. The Fuckos in the Netherlands don't give a damn about this copa. So you hardly find well info here...

BTW....How come Alianza Lima is doing so bad in the league? Are those Fuckos also member of Alianza?

Liga (defending champ) - Palmeiras (hottest Paulista team ATM, and historic CL contender) about to kickoff. The stadium is ROCKING! cheers

Keep an eye on Keirrison. My brazuca friends tell me he's a lethal striker. <Ale>
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Post by Puro on Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:10 pm

Yo Kimbo bro! the game's delayed momentarily due to too much confetti on the pitch making it unplayable. They're doing their best to remove the confetti. cheers
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Post by Puro on Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:36 pm

Nobody here watching this amazing football match! scratch

It's Liga 3-2 Palmeiras with 30 minutes left in the game. WHAT A FUCKING GAME I TELL YA! cheers
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Post by The Easter Bunny on Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:29 am

SOUTH YANK LAND cheers
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Post by Rosicky on Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:24 pm

LDU cheers
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Post by Barrilete on Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:17 pm

apparently Boca's match was boring as hell and we played pretty bad...didn't missed much then...I regret though not being able to watch the palmeiras game
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Post by Puro on Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:19 pm

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:apparently Boca's match was boring as hell and we played pretty bad...didn't missed much then...I regret though not being able to watch the palmeiras game

Try to watch the Universitario-San Lorenzo tonight. It promises to be a cracker in front of 80 thousand plus at El Monumental. Solano's been playing really well for Universitario.

The early match between Cruzeiro-Estudiantes also looks like an awesome match. Ah Copa Libertadores! cheers
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Post by Puro on Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:57 pm

A little over an hour 'til the Cruzeiro-Estudiantes match at the Mineirão with 77 thousand plus fans.

Mes amis! then tune to the Universitario-San Lorenzo at the El Monumental. The games promise to be really exciting. Fuck, just the atmosphere alone in the stadia is worth watching. Y DALE U! Y DALE U! Y DALE U! cheers
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Post by Puro on Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:27 am

Cruzeiro destroyed Estudiantes. Universitario are leading San Lorenzo 1-0 at halftime. Yo Kimbo! Ñol has given a masterful performance so far. The Fox Sports commentators wondered why Newcastle let him go. They say Ñol has lots of football left in his boots. I agree. Amazing show so far. Remember Solari? ex Real Madrid? He now plays for San Lorenzo, and Solano is mopping the floor with him. Biggrin <Ale>
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Post by The Easter Bunny on Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:37 am

Santiago cheers
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Post by Puro on Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:31 am

Y DALE U! Y DALE U! Y DALE U! I think I came! cheers

FUCKING COPA LIBERTADORES FFS! <Ale>
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Post by EM Seleção e Selecção on Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:17 pm

Puro how is Kerrison doing?
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Post by Barrilete on Fri May 01, 2009 10:24 pm

Palermo's 200th goal for Boca! yesterday against dep. tachira from mexico

blame the flew, the mexican players poor defending or whatever...he's the best rustic forward I have ever seen...I mean, the guy knows he is as talentless as it gets but still he's got the balls to try stuff like this...and fortunately it pays off!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-ZRpM0718
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Post by Pierre Littbarski on Fri May 01, 2009 11:02 pm

I can't hear his name without thinking of the 3 penalty misses v Colombia in '99 No
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Post by Juligen on Sat May 02, 2009 11:28 pm



LMFAO Very Happy Lula is just priceless
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Post by Barrilete on Sun May 03, 2009 12:25 am

say what you want about your political leaders in Brazil...but I'll tell yeh...I'd take them anyday of the week and twice on sunday in exchange for ours...And not only for the picture above!!
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Post by Protheus on Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:32 pm

Last night results

Nacional 0 - 0 Palmeiras
agg 1-1

Gremio 0 - 0 Caracas
agg 1-1

Estudiantes 1 - 0 Defensor Sporting
agg 2-0

Sao Paulo 0 - 2 Cruzeiro
agg 1-4


So we've reached the semis, what's the south american posters opinion about the last 4?

Cruzeiro(BRA) - Grémio(BRA)
Estudiantes(ARG) - Nacional Montevideu(URU)

Brazil have one team in the final as they clash in one of the semis.
Estudiantes improved a lot in the last years.
It has been a long time since one of the two big from Uruguay has the oportunity to reach the final, are they good enough?
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Post by OP9 on Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:14 pm

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:Palermo's 200th goal for Boca! yesterday against dep. tachira from mexico

blame the flew, the mexican players poor defending or whatever...he's the best rustic forward I have ever seen...I mean, the guy knows he is as talentless as it gets but still he's got the balls to try stuff like this...and fortunately it pays off!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-ZRpM0718

Deportivo Tachira isn't from Mexico

Its from Venezuela
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Post by OP9 on Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:44 am

Fucking South Americans

Oh nooooo Mexican's got the Swine Flu lets kick 'em out of the tournament.

Fuuuck
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Post by Barrilete on Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:29 pm

saying that the reason that mexicans aren't playing th CL is because of the swine flu is as admitting you know fuck all about their history on the tournament...mexicans never wanted to be in it in the first place...so they better keep playing with the yanks...maybe mexican football will achieve something one day
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Post by OP9 on Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:00 am

Actually, Mexico was in the Libertadores

But both the San Luis and de Chivas game were scratched because of the swine flu.

Sao Paolo advanced without playing Chivas...Same case for Nacional against San Luis

And I believe the last couple ofyears a Mexican club has reached at least the Quaterfinals
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Post by SuperMario on Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:59 pm

Estudiantes v Nacional about to kick off (23.30 BST / 0.30 CET), good stream:

http://nl.justin.tv/luchito2010/popout


Good article on Juan Ramon Veron (much better player than his son):

http://www.fifa.com/clubworldcup/news/newsid=1076531.html
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Post by SuperMario on Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:40 pm

Stadium on fire. Great atmosphere
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Post by SuperMario on Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:57 pm

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL!

You're missing a damn good match
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Post by SuperMario on Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:07 pm

Estudiantes cheers

So who'll play Estudiantes in the final? Cruzeiro must be fav because of their 3-1 win in the first leg. Still a 2-0 home win for Gremio would do. Match is tonight 2.50 CET
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Post by Puro on Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:30 pm

De Guzman wrote:Estudiantes cheers

So who'll play Estudiantes in the final? Cruzeiro must be fav because of their 3-1 win in the first leg. Still a 2-0 home win for Gremio would do. Match is tonight 2.50 CET

Tonight's match should be a cracker! It may go to PK's. <Ale>
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Post by SuperMario on Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:36 am

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/2868227/

and the final is...

Cruzeiro v Estudiantes
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Post by DS on Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:27 pm

Copa Libertadores deserves golden final

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Tim Vickery | 08:30 AM, Monday, 6 July 2009

The 50th Copa Libertadores has not been a vintage edition.

South America's premier club competition deserves better than some
of the mediocre football that has been on show, especially in this
anniversary year.

Perhaps the final can come to the rescue. To be played over two legs on 8 and 15 July, there are grounds for hoping that Estudiantes versus Cruzeiro will live in the memory for positive reasons.







Firstly, for only the 12th time in the competition's history, it's
Argentina against Brazil in the final. Secondly, these are two teams
that are taking good form into the clash. Cruzeiro of Brazil have gone seven games unbeaten in the competition, Estudiantes of Argentina have gone nine, and the last four of them have been victories.

This is also a match-up between two sides who know each other. They
met in the group phase, where each inflicted a heavy home defeat on the
other. But it might not be wise to attach too much importance to either
result.

In the opening group match in mid-February Cruzeiro won 3-0 in Belo Horizonte. This, though, was before Alejandro Sabella took charge of Estudiantes.

Once of Leeds and Sheffield United, Sabella for years worked as
assistant coach to Daniel Passarella. Now, in his mid 50s, he is flying
solo. The transition from assistant to top job is not always easy, but
Sabella seems to have managed it remarkably well. He took over after
Estudiantes had played three games in the competition, with two defeats
and one streaky win. Right at the start he said that he wanted to see
the team more compact. Not only has this benefited their passing game,
it has also tightened up the defence.

Towards the end of last week's semi-final second leg,
with qualification practically assured, Estudiantes conceded a goal -
it was their first in the Libertadores since Sabella took over nine
games earlier. The second game in that run was the 4-0 thumping of
Cruzeiro in La Plata in early April, the only defeat the Brazilians
have suffered in the campaign.
Again, this match is hardly representative of the team that will play
in the final. Cruzeiro were virtually guaranteed a place in the knock
out rounds, and, in a lapse of administrative concentration, made a
mess of their planning.

They stayed in Buenos Aires, which in normal conditions is an hour's
drive from La Plata. But the game was on the eve of a holiday in
Argentina, and with many people heading out of the capital the team bus
got snarled up in traffic. The journey took hours, Cruzeiro arrived
late, tired, mentally out of sorts and with no time for proper
pre-match preparation. They defended badly, and like every other team
that has visited Estudiantes, they failed to score.

Grabbing an away goal might be easier this Wednesday because, unlike the last time in La Plata, Kleber
will be on the pitch. Outstanding in the semi-final, Kleber is a
support striker of talent and strength. After helping Brazil win the
World Youth Cup in 2003, he joined Dynamo Kiev and was soon forgotten
at home, until he moved back to join Palmeiras last year and Cruzeiro
at the start of this.

One of his first games for his latest club was that win over
Estudiantes in February. It was still goalless when he came off the
bench on the hour mark. Fifteen minutes later it was 3-0 and Cruzeiro
were a man down. Kleber had scored two and got himself sent off - a
microcosm of his career, ability mixed with disciplinary problems.

Can Estudiantes defend against him? With Kleber in their side can
Cruzeiro become the first side to pick up an away goal in La Plata? But
also, can Kleber control himself? He was also sent off in the next
Libertadores match he played. In all, Cruzeiro picked up five red cards
in the group phase. There have been none since, but a packed stadium in
La Plata on Wednesday night will be a test of their emotional balance.



Or will Estudiantes be able to impose themselves on the game? Crucial to their ambitions is Juan Sebastian Veron.
In the first leg of the semi- final he limped off at half time, and the
quality of his team's game went with him. Veron dictates the rhythm
from centrefield, spreading the play and slipping the strikers through
on goal. Will he be fit and firing on all cylinders?

Cruzeiro will seek to block him with experienced new signing Fabinho
and little Marquinhos Parana, the side's unsung hero. Veron, then, has
to overcome an injury and tight midfield marking, while Kleber needs to
win a battle over the demons of his own temperament. If they can do so
there should be plenty to enjoy in the final of the 50th Copa
Libertadores.

Comments on the piece in the space provided. Other questions on
South American football to vickerycolumn@hotmail.com, and I'll pick out
a couple for next week.
From last week's postbag:


Q) What is the thinking behind the AFA not choosing
Buenos Aires as a venue in the 2011 Copa America? Are they trying to
create a legacy in preparation for a possible World Cup bid in 2030?
Asif Burhan

A There is talk of a joint bid with Uruguay in 2030 to
celebrate the centenary of the World Cup, but more than that, I think
Argentina are trying to use the competition in 2011 to decentralise
their football. Several South American countries have done this
recently - used the resources of the Copa to invest in stadiums and
infra-structure outside the capital. The main stadium is going to be
the one in La Plata,
that Estudiantes will be using on Wednesday and which they share with
Gimnasia. It's modern, impressive - but unfinished. Despite a massive
structure, there's no roof for anyone. The Copa is a chance to put that
right. Investment in the other cities - Santa Fe, Jujuy, Salta and
Cordoba - should strengthen the game in the provinces.

Q) What is your opinion on Brazil's new star Ramires,
I see he has signed on at Benfica for next season, I watched a fair bit
of the Confederations Cup and noted that he was a pretty atypical
Brazilian attacking midfielder in that he was all about energy and
power as opposed to skills and tricks, something which drew both praise
and criticism from the BBC. Do you see him as a regular starter for the
Seleção or are there better options available?
Neil Jones

A) Before Benfica, he's got the Libertadores final to
think of, because he's still with Cruzeiro until that's over. I don't
think he's just an attacking midfielder, and I certainly don't think
that's how Brazil have used him. Their recent switch has been from
4-2-3-1 to 4-3-2-1 - essentially Ronaldinho out, and either Elano or
Ramires in - a mixed midfielder in on the right to allow Maicon to
power forward from full back. I think Daniel Alves is
another option for this role. Elano gives them excellent delivery from
set pieces, Ramires supplies that extraordinary lung power and
sustained pace. He looked terrific in games where Brazil could launch
the counter-attack, not so good in the others. But in his first taste
of senior action (he went to the Olympics last year) he has done enough
to keep him in contention. For Cruzeiro he usually operates a bit
further forward, and sometimes from the left, where one of his key
functions is to keep bursting into the box, where he has worked hard on
his finishing. I can see him giving Estudiantes some problems on
Wednesday.

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