can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

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can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

Post by Glenarch of the Glen on Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:05 pm

Spppppppppppppppppppppppuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrs look set to break with tradition and not sell their best player to Manchester United. The early pace setters are 6 points clear of title favourites Liverpool and on paper their squad looks as good as anyone's.

They seem to have found a nice balance of strikers, a wealth of options in central midfield and, despite his shortcomings, Bentley is capeable of being an able replacement for Lennon. The fitness of King will always be important but Bassong looks to be an able deputy. My main concern would be their left side, but with Petrov or McGeady apparently targeted, could they suprise a few people?

Probably not.

Thanks Ale



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Post by Axeslammer on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:12 am

We've been teasing them too hard with Huntelaar.

So I think they *can* win the EPL in some sort of intergalactic karma kind of way Ale
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Post by gone on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:31 am

I hope they do but a more realist target is a 4th place.
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Post by Fade out on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:39 am

They could push out shit-on-stick from top 4 slot.
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Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:54 am

I want everyone to take note of what is happening here... 1st of all Glenn only set this thread up to deflect attention from Liverpool's dodgy start.

It's not Spurs fans who are talking about the top 4, it's the press and rival fans saying that we should definitely be in there despite us having the 5th/6th strongest budget in the league, setting us up for a fall as always, waiting to laugh at us because we can't break the monopoly with a wage bill that's less than half the size of Man Utd's, and that's approx £30-40mil a year behind Liverpool's and Arsenal's. "The let's laugh at Tottenham thread" will be bumped precisely because of this.

None of the Spurs fans here said the top 4, and I don't see it either, but yet people keep persisting. At least Man Citeh's money has taken pressure and attention away from us.

'arry when asked, said that he'll have a go, that's all we can do, it's not an expectation but rather a hope. Why don't people have more of a go at Aston Villa and MON is a DISGRACE Grr for failing to get in to the top 4?! He's spent approx £100mil in 3 years on the players he currently has, without anywhere near the dramatic turnover of players that we've had.
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Post by Isco Benny on Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:06 am

'Said TS Ale

To be fair to Glenn, he blatantly has a soft spot for Spurs. It's clear in his tone.

It's not too late to jump ship Glennda and avoid yet another ailing disappointment of a season
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Post by gone on Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:15 am

Spider Crouch wrote:'Said TS Ale

To be fair to Glenn, he blatantly has a soft spot for Spurs. It's clear in his tone.

It's not too late to jump ship Glennda and avoid yet another ailing disappointment of a season

I'm not sure the best way to avoid disappointment is to go to the Spurs boat. Very Happy

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Post by Glenarch of the Glen on Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:17 am

why has TS decided that this thread is a dig at Spuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrs?
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Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:21 am

Glenn Johnnsonn wrote:why has TS decided that this thread is a dig at Spuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrs?

So Batman's "Are Liverpool now the favourites for the title?" wasn't a dig either?

You know exactly what I'm getting at... Kimbo/Deano/The Gooners will be on this like flies to shit.


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Post by debaser on Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:21 am

MadVillain™ wrote: Why don't people have more of a go at Aston Villa and MON is a DISGRACE Grr for failing to get in to the top 4?! He's spent approx £100mil in 3 years on the players he currently has, without anywhere near the dramatic turnover of players that we've had.

O'Neill's debut game was:

Sorensen
Hughes-Mellberg-Ridgewell-Samuel
Davis-Barry-McCann
Moore-Angel-Agbonlahor

with likes of Djemba-Djemba, Hendrie, Phillips on the bench.

Look where all those players are at now. Agbonlahor aside, all have gone down in the world.

Given that Gabby and Bouma are the only players remaining, we have had pretty dramatic turnaround over three years.
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Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:24 am

debaser wrote:
MadVillain™ wrote: Why don't people have more of a go at Aston Villa and MON is a DISGRACE Grr for failing to get in to the top 4?! He's spent approx £100mil in 3 years on the players he currently has, without anywhere near the dramatic turnover of players that we've had.

O'Neill's debut game was:

Sorensen
Hughes-Mellberg-Ridgewell-Samuel
Davis-Barry-McCann
Moore-Angel-Agbonlahor

with likes of Djemba-Djemba, Hendrie, Phillips on the bench.

Look where all those players are at now. Agbonlahor aside, all have gone down in the world.

Given that Gabby and Bouma are the only players remaining, we have had pretty dramatic turnaround over three years.

Fair do's then. How much have you made off sales? As far as I can tell, we're both in the same boat financially, but people only put the "EPIC FAIL" tag upon us. Erm
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Post by debaser on Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:33 am

Not much off sales - not many saleable assets really, if you look at that team! Davis, Ridgewell, Cahill, Samuel, Moore probably added up to £20-25m which is good for youth products.

Obviously Barry was £12m. Other best players were Angel, Mellberg (both left on free) and Laursen (retired).
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Think we are quite similar financially - I'd imagine we have similar limitations on wages.

Spurs get more attention all round - it's the price of being in London. Villa get ignored most of the time.

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Post by Glenarch of the Glen on Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:38 am

MadVillain™ wrote:
Glenn Johnnsonn wrote:why has TS decided that this thread is a dig at Spuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrs?

So Batman's "Are Liverpool now the favourites for the title?" wasn't a dig either?

You know exactly what I'm getting at... Kimbo/Deano/The Gooners will be on this like flies to shit.

the difference being that Batman clearly thinks Benitez/Liverpool are rubbish while I've been tipping Spurs and admiring their squad all through pre season. You only have to look at the quality of the players NOT in their team to see that. They can afford injuries in pretty much every position (except as I have repeately mentioned, the left) and are the form team, not just this season but this year. Learn how to take a compliment!

You people Rolling Eyes
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Post by Dwarf on Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:43 am

Glenn Johnnsonn wrote:
the difference being that Batman clearly thinks Benitez/Liverpool are rubbish while I've been tipping Spurs and admiring their squad all through pre season. You only have to look at the quality of the players NOT in their team to see that. They can afford injuries in pretty much every position (except as I have repeately mentioned, the left) and are the form team, not just this season but this year. Learn how to take a compliment!

You people Rolling Eyes

As well as not having to worry about Europe this season.

If you can't be optomistic about your situation this year you are never going to be.
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Re: can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

Post by Deano on Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:54 am

No they can't...it's ridiculous.

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Post by L r dd on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:06 pm

why not? they are an amazing team that should be in the cl
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Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:11 pm

L r dd wrote:why not? they are an amazing team that should be in the cl

At the start of the year we were still in a relegation scrap.

Hyperbole Ale
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Post by Deano on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:12 pm

L r dd wrote:why not? they are an amazing team that should be in the cl
Ahead of who?

We get 4 CL places. Are Spurs better than:

Arsenal? No.
Liverpool? No.
Chelsea. No.
Man Utd. No.

Game Over.

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Post by Glenarch of the Glen on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:19 pm

GianDeano Zola wrote:
L r dd wrote:why not? they are an amazing team that should be in the cl
Ahead of who?

We get 4 CL places. Are Spurs better than:

Arsenal? No.
Liverpool? No.
Chelsea. No.
Man Utd. No.

Game Over.

their first XI perhaps isn't quite as good, but if you look at the pool of players they have it's just as strong

Defoe, Keane, Pavlychenko and Crouch

vs

Walcott, van Persie, Eduardo and Bendtner

vs

Drogba, Anelka, Shevchenko and Kalou

vs

Gerrard, Torres, N'Gog and Voronin

their squad is better than the early Benitez rotation squads which did pretty well.
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Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:28 pm

Van Persie's better than anything we have

Drogba & Anelka are better than anything we have

Gerrard & Torres are better than what we have

Owen, Rooney & Berbatov are better than what we have

Robinho, Adebayor & Tevez are better than what we have


At the moment we don't have any 9/10 players, just a healthy bunch of 7-8's. King is the only one who comes close. Somebody will have to make the leap for us like Keane & Carrick did for us in 2005-06 to seriously challenge.

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Post by Glenarch of the Glen on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:31 pm

MadVillain™ wrote:Van Persie's better than anything we have

Drogba & Anelka are better than anything we have

Gerrard & Torres are better than what we have

Owen, Rooney & Berbatov are better than what we have

Robinho, Adebayor & Tevez are better than what we have


At the moment we don't have any 9/10 players, just a healthy bunch of 7-8's. King is the only one who comes close. Somebody will have to make the leap for us like Keane & Carrick did for us in 2005-06 to seriously challenge.

hence my point about the early Benitez squad. The advantage that ou have is no Europe and the Big 4 are at their weakest. IF you sign decent left winger and IF Gomes has a good season then you can win it.
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Post by Isco Benny on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:32 pm

MadVillain™ wrote:Van Persie's better than anything we have

Drogba & Anelka are better than anything we have

Gerrard & Torres are better than what we have

Owen, Rooney & Berbatov are better than what we have

Robinho, Adebayor & Tevez are better than what we have


At the moment we don't have any 9/10 players, just a healthy bunch of 7-8's. King is the only one who comes close. Somebody will have to make the leap for us like Keane & Carrick did for us in 2005-06 to seriously challenge.

Spot on.

Modric is already pushing a 9 though, 3 games into the season.

Judging by Kenwyne Jones' performance this weekend - definitely the one that got away. would have preferred to have him than Crouch.

Infact, I'll wager that Sunderland do very well this season. Top 10 finish Ale
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Post by Tweesus on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:33 pm

Its still too early but the start they have made is promising,

I did say in the pre-season table predictions that I thought they'd have a good season though. I predicted 5th for them, but if other teams have a poorer season and spurs continue their good form, they may well finish in the top four.

There's an outside possibility in fact that TWO of the big four might finish outside the big four this season Yikes

With spurs/man city possibly taking their places.
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Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:35 pm

Spider Crouch wrote:
MadVillain™ wrote:Van Persie's better than anything we have

Drogba & Anelka are better than anything we have

Gerrard & Torres are better than what we have

Owen, Rooney & Berbatov are better than what we have

Robinho, Adebayor & Tevez are better than what we have


At the moment we don't have any 9/10 players, just a healthy bunch of 7-8's. King is the only one who comes close. Somebody will have to make the leap for us like Keane & Carrick did for us in 2005-06 to seriously challenge.

Spot on.

Modric is already pushing a 9 though, 3 games into the season.

Judging by Kenwyne Jones' performance this weekend - definitely the one that got away. would have preferred to have him than Crouch.

Infact, I'll wager that Sunderland do very well this season. Top 10 finish Ale

Jones could be the next Drogba - though C.Cole is making a good impression too Yikes

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Post by L r dd on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:36 pm

MadVillain™ wrote:Van Persie's better than anything we have

Drogba & Anelka are better than anything we have

Gerrard & Torres are better than what we have

Owen, Rooney & Berbatov are better than what we have

Robinho, Adebayor & Tevez are better than what we have


At the moment we don't have any 9/10 players, just a healthy bunch of 7-8's. King is the only one who comes close. Somebody will have to make the leap for us like Keane & Carrick did for us in 2005-06 to seriously challenge.

I'd take Defoe over Anelka these days. The other 4 are all a good mix i don't believe man city have a good mix even if they look strong. Arsenal's is hit and miss. Liverpool have one player and don't you dare include Owen and say better Biggrin

Fact is Tottenham SHOULD and CAn finish in the top 4 given you have no european distraction/extra games compare to Pool who's squad isnt that impressive compare to yours. You got a 6 point lead 35 games to hold onto it Laughing
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Post by Hlebagone on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:38 pm

Tweedle wrote:Its still too early but the start they have made is promising,

I did say in the pre-season table predictions that I thought they'd have a good season though. I predicted 5th for them, but if other teams have a poorer season and spurs continue their good form, they may well finish in the top four.

There's an outside possibility in fact that TWO of the big four might finish outside the big four this season Yikes

With spurs/man city possibly taking their places.

And we can always crumble.Wink

To be honest though, these things even themselves out over 38 games. Liverpool usually start slowlyand then go on a very good run of form at some point which is good enough for a top 4 finish.
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Post by Tweesus on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:39 pm

Defoe I'd take over Anelka and Owen too. Owen just doesn't have the pace nowadays. Anelka is very hot and cold. His record last season was impressive but I'd be very surprised if he'd score anything like that this season.

If I were to grade the Spurs first team...

Gomez - 6
Assou-Ekotto - 6
King - 8
Woody - 6
Hutton (?) - 5
Modric - 8
Huddlestone - 6
Palacios - 7/8
Lennon - 7
Defoe - 7
Keane - 6
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Post by Hlebagone on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:42 pm

MadVillain™ wrote:Van Persie's better than anything we have

Drogba & Anelka are better than anything we have

Gerrard & Torres are better than what we have

Owen, Rooney & Berbatov are better than what we have

Robinho, Adebayor & Tevez are better than what we have


At the moment we don't have any 9/10 players, just a healthy bunch of 7-8's. King is the only one who comes close. Somebody will have to make the leap for us like Keane & Carrick did for us in 2005-06 to seriously challenge.


TS is systematically downplaying his chances so he cannot be accused of hyping up his players, thiss may be a realistic approach but it would also deprive him of his favourite hobby of hyping up Arsenal hype.

Anyway - Woodgate is at least the equal to Vermaelon and thats not even mentioning King.
Palacios would get into Arsenal or Man Utds Midfield.
Modric would slot into our midfield no problem, would be an improvement on Benayoun or Valencia.

There are definite weak points to all of the top 4 this year.
But yeah, it is unlikely.

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Post by Glenarch of the Glen on Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:42 pm

Tweedle wrote:Defoe I'd take over Anelka and Owen too. Owen just doesn't have the pace nowadays. Anelka is very hot and cold. His record last season was impressive but I'd be very surprised if he'd score anything like that this season.

If I were to grade the Spurs first team...

Gomez - 6
Assou-Ekotto - 6
King - 8
Woody - 6
Hutton (?) - 5
Modric - 8
Huddlestone - 6
Palacios - 7/8
Lennon - 7
Defoe - 7
Keane - 6

Woodcock is a 7 at least and a high one at that. Lennon too. I'd swap pretty much all of Sppppppppppuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrs' fringe players for ours, except for the left side. Don't think much of the Arsenal bench either.

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