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    Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:34 pm

    Top 10: Wasted talents
    They should have been giants. Football Italia on the players who didn’t live up to their potential
    10. Stefano Fiore
    He may have won both the UEFA Cup and the Coppa Italia twice, but Fiore never truly realised the terrific potential he displayed in his early days at Udinese. Having flopped at Valencia, Torino, Livorno and even Serie B side Mantova, he is now consigned to the Lega Pro at the age of 34, with home town club Cosenza.

    9. Arturo Lupoli
    Along with Giuseppe Rossi he was supposed to be the future of La Nazionale. Instead Arturo Lupoli has flopped at Arsenal, Fiorentina, and a whole host of Championship sides, whilst Rossi has made the grade at Villarreal and earned caps with the Azzurri. Now at Ascoli, he’s running out of chances to prove his worth.

    8. Marco Delvecchio
    Delvecchio played a prominent role in Roma’s 2001 Scudetto win and earned 22 Italy caps. However, he gradually faded into the background at the Olimpico, and his career collapsed at an alarming rate with brief, disappointing spells at Brescia, Parma and Ascoli.

    7. Luciano Re Cecconi
    Unlike most others on this list Re Cecconi’s talent was wasted through no fault of his own. Known as ‘The Blond Angel’, his surreal demise came just three years after he helped Lazio to their 1973-74 Scudetto win – the first in the club’s history. The midfield general was shot whilst pretending to rob a Rome jewellers shop. His last words were: ‘It’s a joke’.

    6. Francesco Coco
    Tipped for greatness in his youth, Francesco Coco’s promise rapidly evaporated, and he retired aged just 30. The left-back spent time at Milan and Inter, but appeared more interested in the fame and fortune football brought rather than the game itself.

    5. Paolo Rossi
    Paolo Rossi will forever be the symbol of Italy’s 1982 World Cup triumph – which is just as well for him given his disappointing club career. The diminutive forward topped the Serie A and B scoring charts in consecutive seasons in his early days at Vicenza, but latterly flopped at Juventus and Milan, mustering a mere 30 goals in his last six Serie A seasons.

    4. Adriano
    Brute strength, samba style, Adriano was the perfect front man prospectively, but his fitness problems and reckless behaviour off the pitch constantly undermined him and eventually forced his separation from Inter. Back in Brazil with Flamengo and still aged just 27, the door has not shut on L’Emperatore yet, but he must start to realise his true potential soon.

    3. Gigi Meroni
    Gigi Meroni was the James Dean of calcio at the height of the swinging sixties. Despite the wing wizardry he exhibited at Genoa and Torino the Press paid more attention to his unconventional hairstyles and dress style. His life was tragically snatched from him at the age of 24 when he was knocked down by a car driven by Attilio Romero, ironically a huge fan of Meroni and future Torino President.

    2. Antonio Cassano
    Cassano’s career is far from over of course, but were it to end today he would surely go down as a momentous waste of talent – at club and international level. Irascible, unpredictable, yet incredibly talented, who knows what ‘The Golden Boy’ could have achieved if he had arrived at Real Madrid with the new found maturity he has shown at Sampdoria. Thankfully Fantonio still has time to win over Marcello Lippi and reach a club more in keeping with his ability.

    1. Alvaro Recoba
    The absolute epitome of wasted talent, the fact that El Chino is seeing out his career with Panionios is a tragic joke. Blessed with a deft touch and unrivalled imagination, Recoba seemed to lack the desire to perform consistently and become the legend he should have been at Inter. Scored 63 in 183 Nerazzurri appearances, but saved his best form for a brief loan spell at Venezia.
    Words: Scott Fleming

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    Don't agree with Delvecchio - he wasn't that talented anyway but he achieved alot at Roma plus the scored the winning goal in the Euro 2000 final. If anything, you could say he did very well for himself considering the talent he had.

    Not sure about Fiore either. He did well with us, and with Fiorentina and Udinese. He did well on the NT aswell but was generally underused by Lippi and Trap. He only did poor at Torino, Livorno etc. because he was past it.

    I think Morfeo would've been a good shout in this thread - when he was young he was meant to be as good as Totti or Del Piero. I also think some of the Atalanta players like Doni and C. Zenoni deserve a mention.

    Recoba at number 1 is spot on. He had all the talent, just really lacked mentality and consistency.

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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by bluenine on Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:41 pm

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Top 10: Wasted talents
    7. Luciano Re Cecconi
    Unlike most others on this list Re Cecconi’s talent was wasted through no fault of his own. Known as ‘The Blond Angel’, his surreal demise came just three years after he helped Lazio to their 1973-74 Scudetto win – the first in the club’s history. The midfield general was shot whilst pretending to rob a Rome jewellers shop. His last words were: ‘It’s a joke’..


    This bit is funny... I didn't know about this guy....

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
    Don't agree with Delvecchio - he wasn't that talented anyway but he achieved alot at Roma plus the scored the winning goal in the Euro 2000 final. If anything, you could say he did very well for himself considering the talent he had.

    Unfortunately not the winning goal, my friend. Del Piero missed two of those.
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    Recoba at number 1 is spot on. He had all the talent, just really lacked mentality and consistency.

    Sad, but true. Recoba tops all such lists, the biggest waste of talent I have seen in 25 years of watching football.

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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by EMP on Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:07 pm

    Strange that there is no place for Darko Pancev in that list. A fantastic talent that should have shone at Inter, bt didn't.

    How is Patrick Kluivert viewed in Italy? Wasn't great at Milan. Another one for this list is Ian Rush. Really should have done a lot better at Jeventus. Des Walker probably deserves a mention as well.

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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:15 pm

    EMP wrote:Strange that there is no place for Darko Pancev in that list. A fantastic talent that should have shone at Inter, bt didn't.

    How is Patrick Kluivert viewed in Italy? Wasn't great at Milan. Another one for this list is Ian Rush. Really should have done a lot better at Jeventus. Des Walker probably deserves a mention as well.


    Yeh i guess they are not included because they only spent one season in Serie A.

    You could do a similar list for La Liga or the EPL if you like.

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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by Pierre Littbarski on Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:52 pm

    EMP wrote:Strange that there is no place for Darko Pancev in that list. A fantastic talent that should have shone at Inter, bt didn't.

    How is Patrick Kluivert viewed in Italy? Wasn't great at Milan. Another one for this list is Ian Rush. Really should have done a lot better at Jeventus. Des Walker probably deserves a mention as well.


    Some mitigating off field circumstances though unlike fellow Serie A flops Bergkamp and Henry.

    "In 1997, Kluivert was charged with manslaughter following his involvement in a fatal car accident in which he killed Marten Putman, a theater director. He was found guilty and received community service and a driving ban. He was also charged with rape on a separate occasion, but he was to be later acquitted due to insufficient evidence. Kluivert claimed he had engaged in consensual sex with his accuser."


    The rape thing was '98 I think and he played for Milan in 97/98 so must have been really tough.

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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by EMP on Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:54 pm

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
    EMP wrote:Strange that there is no place for Darko Pancev in that list. A fantastic talent that should have shone at Inter, bt didn't.

    How is Patrick Kluivert viewed in Italy? Wasn't great at Milan. Another one for this list is Ian Rush. Really should have done a lot better at Jeventus. Des Walker probably deserves a mention as well.


    Yeh i guess they are not included because they only spent one season in Serie A.

    You could do a similar list for La Liga or the EPL if you like.


    Was just throwing a couple of names out there. Pancev was there more than a year though. He was there from 92-95, but never established himself. Will let others start the list for La Liga and EPL and join in later. How long were Viera and Henry in Italy. Slightly different as never really got a chance in Italy. How about Marcelo Sala. Did he deliver enough for such a talent? Kily Gonzalez, Claudio Lopez and my personal favourite Mendieta. cheers cheers cheers Best business we ever did flogging him to Lazio for extortionate fee.

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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by christmasborocooper on Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:05 pm

    Wasnt there some Italian fella who made a really big money move at some point..a winger I think..who ended up getting badly injured somehow. Possibly a car accident?

    In the sort of early to mid 90s era.

    Im sure I read about it on here once.

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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:09 pm

    Lentini!

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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by christmasborocooper on Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:11 pm

    Yeah thats him.

    Wasnt he going to be one of the best, so people thought anyway?

    If the other guys being hit by cars and getting shot can make it then that guy should!

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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:14 pm

    borocooper wrote:Yeah thats him.

    Wasnt he going to be one of the best, so people thought anyway?

    If the other guys being hit by cars and getting shot can make it then that guy should!


    Yeh a very good call.

    I didn't watchhim, before my time, but from what i've read it seems like he was very promising.

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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by Jaime on Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:41 pm

    Lentini was immense with Torino. He didn't have a great start at Milan and then the car accident. Speeding away after getting caught in bed with Toto Schillaci's wife. Yikes

    Speaking of players that never made it big - Schillaci. Not that he was the most talented guy but after being top scorer in Italia 90 you would have thought he would have gone on to big things. Never really set Juve alight and was injured through most of his spell at Inter.

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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:03 am

    EMP wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
    EMP wrote:Strange that there is no place for Darko Pancev in that list. A fantastic talent that should have shone at Inter, bt didn't.

    How is Patrick Kluivert viewed in Italy? Wasn't great at Milan. Another one for this list is Ian Rush. Really should have done a lot better at Jeventus. Des Walker probably deserves a mention as well.


    Yeh i guess they are not included because they only spent one season in Serie A.

    You could do a similar list for La Liga or the EPL if you like.


    Was just throwing a couple of names out there. Pancev was there more than a year though. He was there from 92-95, but never established himself. Will let others start the list for La Liga and EPL and join in later. How long were Viera and Henry in Italy. Slightly different as never really got a chance in Italy. How about Marcelo Sala. Did he deliver enough for such a talent? Kily Gonzalez, Claudio Lopez and my personal favourite Mendieta. cheers cheers cheers Best business we ever did flogging him to Lazio for extortionate fee.


    Yeh i don't remember Pancev, i'm sure Bluenine does though.

    Vieira was at Milan for a season while Henry was at Juve for half a season after Juve's season was falling apart following Del Piero's injury.

    I thought Salas would be more prolific tbh. He did a good job for us but he didn't really set Serie A alight. Then he went to Juve, got injured and he was never the same after that.

    Kily was good at Valencia. He reached 2 CL finals and won La Liga. He had too many injury problems at Inter.

    Claudio Lopez wasn't brilliant to start with for us, but in his final 2 seasons he was excellent and Corradi was a good partner for him.

    Mendieta was an epic flop and he never really recovered from it.

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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:04 am

    Sartor is another who could be on the list. Bonera could be on the list soon.

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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by Axeslammer on Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:31 am

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:

    Some mitigating off field circumstances though unlike fellow Serie A flops Bergkamp and Henry.


    Playing Bergkamp alone upfront in a counterfootball team Shocked

    Only in Italy Ale

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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by bluenine on Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:49 am

    EMP wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
    EMP wrote:Strange that there is no place for Darko Pancev in that list. A fantastic talent that should have shone at Inter, bt didn't.

    How is Patrick Kluivert viewed in Italy? Wasn't great at Milan. Another one for this list is Ian Rush. Really should have done a lot better at Jeventus. Des Walker probably deserves a mention as well.


    Yeh i guess they are not included because they only spent one season in Serie A.

    You could do a similar list for La Liga or the EPL if you like.


    Was just throwing a couple of names out there. Pancev was there more than a year though. He was there from 92-95, but never established himself. Will let others start the list for La Liga and EPL and join in later. How long were Viera and Henry in Italy. Slightly different as never really got a chance in Italy. How about Marcelo Sala. Did he deliver enough for such a talent? Kily Gonzalez, Claudio Lopez and my personal favourite Mendieta. Best business we ever did flogging him to Lazio for extortionate fee.


    Pancev, brings back old memories. But I wouldn't put him in the same bracket as Recoba tho, Pancev never showed any glimpses of genius at Inter. There were so many talents like him who flopped at Inter in the 90s... none of them should make this list.

    btw, I think this list is crap. Whoever wrote this has very limited knowledge of Serie A, I could easily come up with a much better one. I mean, Lupoli? Give me a break - there are kids as talented as him failing every year, what is he doing in a top ten?? Even Legrotaglie is a bigger disappointment than Lupoli.

    Lentini should be there - he was regarded as a special talent that the world never saw. Mandieta is a good call too, so much was expected out of him.

    But Recoba should top this list anyways, thats one thing the author did get right.

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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by bluenine on Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:20 am

    Wasted talents at Inter XI - the dark ages, 1989-2006
    Frey
    Coco - Cannavaro - Silvestre - Carlos
    Dalmat - Pirlo - Morfeo - Conceicao
    Berkamp - Recoba



    Others: Seedorf, Adriano, Schillaci, Caio, Kily, Pizzaro, Pancev, there are so many.... I know the defence is full of LB's, but thats been our achilles heel over these years.

    For Serie A, the 5 biggest wasted talents that I have seen were Recoba, Ortega, Lentini, Mandieta, & Cassano. Tho Cassano is now making amends, maybe I should replace him with Adriano. Papin was another huge flop, considering Milan broke the world record transfer fee to get him. But he flopped more from a lack of chances than anything else.

    Also there are loads who never made the step up from youth football - Nii Lamptey anyone?


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    Re: Serie A - Top 10 wasted talents

    Post by Sampdoria Hammer on Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:21 am

    That's brilliant. 2nd in the league...1 defeat all season in 9 games. Yet Cassano needs to move to a club, in keeping with his ability Laughing.

    Like Milan? Who seem to keep luckily scraping late wins.
    Like Roma? Who are utterly terrible this season.

    Like who?

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    Post by bluenine on Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:24 am

    GianDeano Zola wrote:That's brilliant. 2nd in the league...1 defeat all season in 9 games. Yet Cassano needs to move to a club, in keeping with his ability .

    Like Milan? Who seem to keep luckily scraping late wins.
    Like Roma? Who are utterly terrible this season.

    Like who?


    Pre-Doria, Cassano was a wasted talent... only now he is reaching his potential... its also a reflection of his talent/potential, which I rate very highly.

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    Post by SuperMario on Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:28 am

    Recoba & Ortega were ridiculously talented. Always a big Recoba fan.

    Never was sure about Lentini, saw too little of him, but it was a high transferfee wasn't it?

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    Post by bluenine on Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:32 am

    De Guzman wrote:Recoba & Ortega were ridiculously talented. Always a big Recoba fan.

    Never was sure about Lentini, saw too little of him, but it was a high transferfee wasn't it?


    Yup, I think it was something like £13m.... which was THE world record transfer fee those days, like Ronaldo is at the mo.

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    Post by SuperMario on Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:36 am

    Grazi, thought it was something like that.

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