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    SuperMario

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    Porto v Arsenal

    Post by SuperMario on Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:44 pm

    0-0?

    Porto never scored v us, we don't do well in Portugal. Apart from that Porto's manager says keeping a clean sheet is most important. zzzzzzzz

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Antarion on Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:42 pm

    Where is Protheus?

    Anyway, hard to predict this one, but 0-0 is defo possible.
    Lets hope for an early goal.

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Luis on Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:06 pm

    Will either be a tight game or Arsenal will walk it. They often perform at this stage in the CL, get hyped up and then get found out over 2 legs in the quarters/semis.

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Protheus on Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:09 pm

    Haven´t been here much lately heh.

    Anyway, we are not playing very well this season so i do not have high hopes of a great result. Still, i do expect us to win today as Wenger will probably uderstimate us again as he always does, saving a couple of stars for the premier league games.

    It is obviously a difficult game but i am usually optimist about our performance at home.
    But i doubt it will be a 0-0. Both us and Arsenal do not play very well the defensive game so anything in that regard would be risky for both teams. I am curious to Arsenal aproach for this game, if they go all attack we will counter a lot but if they wait for us to do the attack then the game will be more tactical.

    To be honest IMO Arsenal is the worst english team to play against for us owing to their style of play.

    Oh by the way, we don´t score against Arsenal? We've only played twice at home and the team that haven´t scored at Dragão so far was Arsenal Razz

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Super defensive on Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:13 pm

    Protheus wrote:Haven´t been here much lately heh.

    Anyway, we are not playing very well this season so i do not have high hopes of a great result. Still, i do expect us to win today as Wenger will probably uderstimate us again as he always does, saving a couple of stars for the premier league games.

    It is obviously a difficult game but i am usually optimist about our performance at home.
    But i doubt it will be a 0-0. Both us and Arsenal do not play very well the defensive game so anything in that regard would be risky for both teams. I am curious to Arsenal aproach for this game, if they go all attack we will counter a lot but if they wait for us to do the attack then the game will be more tactical.

    To be honest IMO Arsenal is the worst english team to play against for us owing to their style of play.

    Oh by the way, we don´t score against Arsenal? We've only played twice at home and the team that haven´t scored at Dragão so far was Arsenal Razz

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    Perhaps the greatest challenge for a manager isn’t building success, it’s rebuilding. You win silverware with a group of players and then — because they’ve aged or because your owner decides to cash in — you have to start over. Except because you’ve been successful and fans and media have grown accustomed to it, the pressure to win right away is immense, despite the new cast of characters.

    Jesualdo Ferreira, the Porto coach, knows a thing or two about this.

    In June 2008, he won his second consecutive league title with Porto, the club’s third in a row. That summer he lost Paulo Assunção, his midfield general, José Bosingwa, his pacey right back, and Ricardo Quaresma, his star winger. Undeterred, Ferreira again won the Portuguese championship, becoming the first coach to win three titles on the bounce. And, again, his squad was gutted.

    Porto earned more than £100 million from those deals; less than a third was reinvested in the side. Imagine Arsène Wenger losing Bacary Sagna, Gaël Clichy, Cesc Fàbregas, Alexandre Song, Samir Nasri and Robin van Persie over two seasons and you begin to understand the transition facing Ferreira, who, effectively, has become a victim of his own success.


    And “victim” seems to be the right word. Porto have finished first or second every year bar one since 1982. Yet now they are third, nine points behind Benfica and five behind Braga.

    Yet amid the talent drain at the Estádio do Dragão, one player who has held up his side of the bargain is Radamel Falcão García Zárate.

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    His father, Radamel García, was an unremarkable defender in Colombia’s top flight who never fulfilled his footballing dreams and was determined that his son have the best possible crack at glory. He named him Falcão, in honour of the legendary Brazilian.

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    Figuring he might need a Plan B, Falcão enrolled in a journalism degree course. And he also found God, joining an evangelical group, Locos Por Cristo, or “Crazy For Christ”.

    He returned in September 2006, forming an efficient partnership with Gonzalo Higuaín, who is now at Real Madrid. Three more seasons at River and he was ready for the jump to European football. Maybe not as quickly as Dad would have liked, but with a Bachelor of Arts diploma on his wall and renewed faith in his soul.

    If his path to the big time was unconventional, he has a kindred spirit in Ferreira, who spent most of his career as backroom assistant before getting his first big opportunity at the age of 55, with Benfica. Even then he was greeted with scepticism, with none other than José Mourinho declaring: “This could be the story of a donkey who worked for 30 years but never became a horse.”

    Ferreira may not be a thoroughbred but he has steered Porto well over the past 3½ seasons. He knows that many of his best men — starting with Falcão — are likely to abandon ship after this season, but, by now he’s used to it.
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    Good to hear Falcao is doing well over there. He has been somebody just liek Palacio(Boca/Genoa) who I figured would make the jump over the atlantic a bit earlier.

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Sheffield gunner on Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:21 pm

    Protheus wrote:Haven´t been here much lately heh.

    Anyway, we are not playing very well this season so i do not have high hopes of a great result. Still, i do expect us to win today as Wenger will probably uderstimate us again as he always does, saving a couple of stars for the premier league games.

    It is obviously a difficult game but i am usually optimist about our performance at home.
    But i doubt it will be a 0-0. Both us and Arsenal do not play very well the defensive game so anything in that regard would be risky for both teams. I am curious to Arsenal aproach for this game, if they go all attack we will counter a lot but if they wait for us to do the attack then the game will be more tactical.

    To be honest IMO Arsenal is the worst english team to play against for us owing to their style of play.

    Oh by the way, we don´t score against Arsenal? We've only played twice at home and the team that haven´t scored at Dragão so far was Arsenal Razz

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    We'll be playing a weakened team, but only because of injuries. Wenger has no reason to rest players in a knock-out match. Whenever we've played you in Portugal before it has been at the end of the group stage when we've been on the cusp of qualification anyway, so it hasn't necessitated playing the strongest side. I don't think it's a case of underestimating Porto even then, just a gamble from Wenger that the result isn't essential and therefore rotating the squad is beneficial.

    I think tonight is going to be tough for us. If we can get a draw it will be a fine result for us. We will definitely need to put in a better performance than the two previous matches mentioned above.

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Disco Benny on Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:33 pm

    Vamos Porto!

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Murray on Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:54 pm

    Campbell is playing for Arsenal

    He is going to get raped (though he might enjoy that)

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by TheCrazy58 on Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:19 pm

    Teams

    Arsenal - 21-Lukasz Fabianski Yikes ; 3-Bacary Sagna, 31-Sol Campbell, 5-Thomas Vermaelen, 22-Gael Clichy; 2-Abou Diaby, 15-Denilson, 4-Cesc Fabregas; 7-Tomas Rosicky, 52-Nicklas Bendtner, 8-Samir Nasri.

    Subs - Mannone, Eboue, Ramsey, Walcott, Silvestre

    Porto - 1-Helton; 13-Fucile, 14-Rolando, 2-Bruno Alves, 15-Alvaro Pereira; 28-Ruben Micael, 25-Fernando, 3-Raul Meireles; 17-Silvestre Varela, 9-Falcao, 12-Hulk.

    ITV surprisingly has a halfway sensible pundit - Paulo Sousa, the Swansea manager and a real Portgugeezer.

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Sheffield gunner on Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:49 pm

    Well, safe to assume that defending is not on the agenda for Arsenal tonight. Some huge mistakes already, and Porto could easily have taken the lead.

    It looks like being an open game though. Arsenal have been able to pass the ball into space in and around the Porto box.

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Sheffield gunner on Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:57 pm

    1-0

    Embarrassing defending from Clichy, even worse goalkeeping from Fabianski. Own goal from him, and that is staggeringly poor. A child should be able to save that. Pathetic.

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by COTR on Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:57 pm

    lol!

    OH DEAR

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by COTR on Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:58 pm

    Ultimately Wenger takes the blame for refusing to spend money on a goalkeeper

    That is one of the worst mistakes you could ever see

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Dejan Savićević on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:01 pm

    Fabianski Doh

    Farcical.

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by L r dd on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:02 pm

    What the fuck? How idiotic can a keeper be. Do Arsenal have the worst set of keepers in top flight world football? ffs

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Sheffield gunner on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:04 pm

    There isn't any excuse. It wasn't a hard cross, it was at a reasonable height, it didn't even go far behind him.

    1-1

    Super Sol!

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by TheCrazy58 on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:04 pm

    SOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cheers

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by L r dd on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:04 pm

    Campbell FFS 2 goals in his last 2 cl games. World cup here he comes.

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by COTR on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:04 pm

    Super Sol levels it


    This match is ridiculous. Both teams creating golden chances with every attack.

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Chris 23* on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:05 pm

    FUCK SAKE

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by debaser on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:05 pm

    Campbell unmarked in the middle of the six yard box Doh

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Dejan Savićević on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:07 pm

    Big Sol cheers

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by L r dd on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:07 pm

    I can see why Quaresma only works in the Portuguese league.

    How shite has Clichy become? didn't he used to be decent.

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by COTR on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:08 pm

    L r dd wrote:I can see why Quaresma only works in the Portuguese league.


    They don't really do pressing or defending do they ?

    Prof will be on later to tell us how wonderful Arsenal are again.

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Obispo on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:10 pm

    you can bet that when big gay Sol signed for Notts County in August he didn't expect to be scoring in the CL knock out round

    Arsenal's squad numbers are a disgrace

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Dejan Savićević on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:12 pm

    L r dd wrote:I can see why Quaresma only works in the Portuguese league.

    How shite has Clichy become? didn't he used to be decent.


    Yes, very open. Shocked

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by L r dd on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:51 pm

    Bendtner gets worse by the game. Seriously he was actually lost attacking with the ball there.

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Disco Benny on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:52 pm

    Good God, Bentner's shooting is truly appalling

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Rosicky. on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:53 pm

    Fucking joke.

    Outrageous.

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    Re: Porto v Arsenal

    Post by Sheffield gunner on Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:54 pm

    Rosicky had a good shout for a penalty there. Quite a lot of simulation so far in the game so maybe the referee is reluctant to make a hasty decision in the penalty box.

    Oh, for fuck's sake. Appalling defending again. What a calamity our defence is. Fabianski should never play for us again in a game that matters.


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