POS PLAYER TEAM GOALS FACTOR PTS
1 Wayne Rooney Man. United (Eng) 23 x 2 46
2 DidIre Drogba Chelsea (Eng) 19 x 2 38
3 Luis Suarez Ajax (Ned) 24 x 1,5 36
4 Antonio Di Natale Udinese (Ita) 17 x 2 34
5= Lionel Messi Barcelona (Spa) 16 x 2 32
5= Jermaine Defoe Tottenham Hotspur (Eng) 16 x 2 32
7= Kris Boyd Rangers (Sco) 21 x 1,5 31,5
7= Welliton Soares Spartak Moskou (Rus) 21 x 1,5 31,5
9= David Villa Valencia (Spa) 15 x 2 30
9= Darren Bent Sunderland (Eng) 15 x 2 30
9= Kristaps Grebis Metalurgs Liepaja (Lat)30 x 1 30
12= Seydou Doumbia Young Boys (Swi) 19 x 1,5 28,5
12= Shlomi Arbeitman Maccabi Haifa (Isr) 19 x 1,5 28,5
14= Gonzalo Higuain Real Madrid (Spa) 14 x 2 28
14= Diego Milito Genoa (Ita) 14 x 2 28
14= Mamadou Niang Marseille (Fra) 14 x 2 28
17= Djibril Cissé Panathinaikos (Gre) 18 x 1,5 27
17= Vittali Gussev Levadia Tallinn (Est) 27 x 1 27
19= Louis Saha Everton (Eng) 13 x 2 26
19= Carlos Tévez Manchester City (Eng) 13 x 2 26
19= Stefan Kiessling Bayer Leverkusen (Ger) 13 x 2 26
19= Nené Monaco (Fra) 13 x 2 26
23= Oscar Cardozo Benfica (Por) 17 x 1,5 25,5
23= Rade Prica Rosenborg BK (Nor) 17 x 1,5 25,5
25= Cesc Fabregas Arsenal (Eng) 12 x 2 24
25= Cristiano Ronaldo Real Madrid (Spa) 12 x 2 24
25= Zlatan Ibrahimovic Barcelona (Spa) 12 x 2 24
25= Roberto Soldado Getafe (Spa) 12 x 2 24
25= Fernando Torres Liverpool (Eng) 12 x 2 24
25= Giampaolo Pazzini Sampdoria (Ita) 12 x 2 24
25= Kevin Kuranyi Schalke 04 (Ger) 12 x 2 24
25= Radamel Falcao FC Porto (Por) 16 x 1,5 24
25= Alejandro Dominguez Rubin Kazan (Rus) 16 x 1,5 24
25= Aleksandr Bukharov Rubin Kazan (Rus) 16 x 1,5 24
25= Bryan Ruiz FC Twente (Ned) 16 x 1,5 24
25= Itay Shechter Hapeol Tel Aviv (Isr) 16 x 1,5 24
25= Mame Diouf Molde FK (Nor) 16 x 1,5 24
25= Peter Kovacs Odd Grenland (Nor) 16 x 1,5 24
25= Gary Twigg Shamrock Rovers (Ire) 24 x 1 24
40= Aziza Makukula Kayserispor (Tur) 15 x 1,5 22,5
40= Anthony Stokes Hibernian (Sco) 15 x 1,5 22,5
40= Joao Semedo APOP/Kinyras (Cyp) 15 x 1,5 22,5
40= Erik Huseklepp Brann (Nor) 15 x 1,5 22,5
40= Daniel Nannskog Stabæk (Nor) 15 x 1,5 22,5
45= Paulo Barreto Bari (Ita) 11 x 2 22
45= Lucas Barrios Borussia Dortmund (Ger)11 x 2 22
45= Albert Bunjaku 1.FC Nürnberg (Ger) 11 x 2 22
45= Eren Derdiyok Bayer Leverkusen (Ger) 11 x 2 22
45= Gervinho Lille (Fra) 11 x 2 22
45= Jason Byrne Bohemians (Ire) 22 x 1 22

Rooney has it wrapped up IMO. Said in the thread on the EPL board that injuries aside, I think he's heading for 30 or more goals - which is the mark of a truly phenomenal season as a striker IMO. In the EPL, as far as I am aware, only 3 players have done it since the league has had 20 teams - Kevin Philips, Theirry Henry and Cristiano Ronaldo. Shearer might have done it too in 95/96 but can't remember when it was they reduced the league to 20 teams.

What do you think is Rooneys best position?

For Man Utd he plays as a number 9.

For England he plays as a number 10.

We get it Batman, Rooney is great

thats a very good example why the epl is outside the top 2 clubs not competetive, they can score against every team, because they are weak as hell is shit hot

Özil wrote:thats a very good example why the epl is outside the top 2 clubs not competetive, they can score against every team, because they are weak as hell is shit hot

What the hell is this?

Özil wrote:thats a very good example why the epl is outside the top 2 clubs not competetive, they can score against every team, because they are weak as hell is shit hot

Fulham 2-1 Shakhtar Donetsk (last year's ?UEFA Champions)
Everton 2-1 Sporting Lisbon

Your theory is terribly weak.

when did the EPL become so easy to score in, i thought it had the best defenses in the WORLD.

Rio England Braptain wrote:

Özil wrote:thats a very good example why the epl is outside the top 2 clubs not competetive, they can score against every team, because they are weak as hell is shit hot

Fulham 2-1 Shakhtar Donetsk (last year's ?UEFA Champions)
Everton 2-1 Sporting Lisbon

Your theory is terribly weak.

normally home games in europe should be won

but both will get raped in the 2nd game

Messiah wrote:when did the EPL become so easy to score in, i thought it had the best defenses in the WORLD.

So now lots of goals is a bad thing?

Özil wrote:

Rio England Braptain wrote:

Özil wrote:thats a very good example why the epl is outside the top 2 clubs not competetive, they can score against every team, because they are weak as hell is shit hot

Fulham 2-1 Shakhtar Donetsk (last year's ?UEFA Champions)
Everton 2-1 Sporting Lisbon

Your theory is terribly weak.

normally home games in europe should be won

but both will get raped in the 2nd game

Irrespective of the scores, are you suggesting that the EPL has weaker sides than the Bundesliga?? Both are valued with a 2 co efficient.

There are 3 more relevant reasons why Rooney and Drogba are near the top:

1) Both are playing as the main attacking fulcrum of their teams rather than as a strike partnership with someone else (as is traditionally the case)

2) Both have managed to stay relatively injury free, therefore have built up uninterrupted games/form/momentum

3) Both are shit hot

But obviously, your theory is much more scientifically sound

Messiah wrote:when did the EPL become so easy to score in, i thought it had the best defenses in the WORLD.

Yeah cos it's not like Rooney didn't just get 2 at Milan, or score loads in international qualifying etc.

Villa is at 17 isn't he?

This doesn't figure in the number of games, huh? Not that's it going to happen, but 30 in 34 Bundesliga games would lose out against 31 in 38 EPL games?

Effenberg wrote:This doesn't figure in the number of games, huh? Not that's it going to happen, but 30 in 34 Bundesliga games would lose out against 31 in 38 EPL games?

Yes, I guess.

We def don't rely on Suarez as much as we used to...but I love him. Excellent achievement for him!

Nice list. Doesn't mean that the Premier isn't good defensively, United and Chelsea just are the best and it reflects in this list. Always thought Rooney was the key player for United even when the Cr7 was there, and this season he is proving just how important he is for this side to everyone that overlooked him in the past. Awesome achievement for him if he wins. Maybe Real will buy him now! jk

Antarion wrote:Villa is at 17 isn't he?

He is on 17 and he's played 5 games less than Rooney. I would say Wazza has it wrapped just yet.

Rio England Braptain wrote:

Özil wrote:thats a very good example why the epl is outside the top 2 clubs not competetive, they can score against every team, because they are weak as hell is shit hot

Fulham 2-1 Shakhtar Donetsk (last year's ?UEFA Champions)
Everton 2-1 Sporting Lisbon

Your theory is terribly weak.

Everton 0-2 Benfica.
Benfica 5-0 Everton.

You can say almost anything when you pick one game to prove a point.

Two very different teams from Portugal, and two as different Everton teams as you can get in 1 season...

So where do we stand now with this?

Rooney now on 25 Premier League goals

Drogba on 21

Messi on 19 (prior to tonight's la liga fixtures)

Di Natale 19

Bent 18

Defoe 17

Villa on 17.



Would one of our resident Germanophiles Ozil or Otto care to

provide an update on how the fully fledged members of the

ECBOT club are getting on?

For illustrative ease, please include a bracketed suffix showing

how many goals LESS they have scored than ZEROoney so far.

No?

Okay, slightly unfair. So let's just include how many they trail the

enigmatic talent that is Darren Bent.

No? don't want to play?

Okay, happy to help out, but only if you insist:

Kuranyi is on 14 (-4 Darren Bent)

Kiessling on 14 (-4 Darren Bent)

Pizarro (LEGEND FFS!) is at the heady heights of 10 (-8 Darren Bent)

Gomez is on 10 (-8DB)

Kroos on 9 (-9DB)

Ozil on 7 (-11DB)

It appears The World's Greatest Ever Polish striking duo apparently not even in the top 25.

As insults go OneTrick

(- Darren Bent) is about as good as it gets

Three for Messi already tonight, so he's doing a pretty good job of closing the gap!

Rio England Braptain wrote:So where do we stand now with this?

Luis Suarez on 27 from 27

LRD said Rooney is the world's best and Onetrick agreed but I begged to differ still do.

Rooney best in England best English player but Best in the world? behave.

EM La Liga wrote:LRD said Rooney is the world's best and Onetrick agreed but I begged to differ still do.

Rooney best in England best English player but Best in the world? behave.

Pipe down Pork n Cheese - LRD said RIGHT NOW, Rooney is one of the World's best. This was taking into account form - Rooney has scored 15 goals in 11 games. I agreed.

I don't see the controversy there.

Messi is the best player in the World, if you're asking.

22 goals for messi, now in the league, he may well catch rooney.

Messiah wrote:22 goals for messi, now in the league, he may well catch rooney.

And fair play to him. He's an immense player, although doesn't need me to point that out.

If I were inclined to say he's simply the best Argentinian playing in the Spanish league and that's it, I would sound like a 'tard. So I won't.

Take note EM

29 goals 10 assist, in 32 games for the great man.

30 goals, 6 assist in 35 for rooney.

the two best players in the world currently.

Messi was sublime, watching his goals. Beautiful touch and control, pure sex.

Yes, Rooney is a ugly person, both visually and as a person. But he has been terrific. His style may not be as mesmerising as Messi but he's banging goals for jokes this season.