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Re: Scholl bemoans feminisation of German football

Post by Antarion on Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:48 pm

Infact, i know someone from the pirate party from my early internet days. He's an utter joke!!, but i have no time atm to explain further. Maybe if I have the time i gather up some information on him
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Post by Ä on Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:53 pm

19%

http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/piratenpartei/politbarometer-umfrage-19-prozent-wuerden-piraten-waehlen-20113096.bild.html

lol!
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Post by Ä on Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:58 pm

http://www.welt.de/debatte/kommentare/article13642880/Deutschland-Ein-Land-der-Muttersoehnchen.html

Deutschland, ein Land der Muttersöhnchen

Ale

VERY TRUE

and AGAIN

only a WOMAN has the BALLS to call today's men wimps and pussies

AVERSE to ANY risk

and cheered on by the feminized MEDIA

Ale

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meanwhile

the GREEN party, that recently still looked like taking over Berlin

with it's SILLY ideas of a 30 km/h tempo limit on ALL roads in Berlin

just got the RED CARD by the Social Democrats

and will NOT form a coalition with them

the Green insisted on cancelling an Autobahn project through Berlin

(the money had already been granted by the FEDERAL government )

and were not willing to find a compromise

the GAY Social Democrat mayor then told the feminist lunatics to go fuck themselves

and they are STEAMING

cheers

Berlin will now get a grand-coalition

but this will have repercussions on a national scale

the Green lunatics think they got betrayed

and will now try to lure MERKEL into a Black-Green coalition at the next election

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still

interesting to see that the only MEN WITH BALLS left in the Vaterland

seem to be GAY

Laugh Doh

in Munich, the LESBIANS wanted to take over the "Christopher Street Day"

by calling it the "Christina Street Day"

Laugh lol!

the GAY MEN told the LESBIANS to go fuck themselves

which they probably did

suffice to say

the STRAIGHT MEN would have caved in 100%

and pretty much IMMEDIATELY

there was a compromise however

the event was called

"Christopher Street Day, Lesben vor"

Laugh

Gott schütze unser Vaterland

Yikes

Deutschland still needs those 100.000 DUTCH

ELITE forces to rescue us

Ale

it's absolute MADNESS to allow

Die Mannschaft

the gayest lot of them all

to leave the Vaterland

when the troops are CLEARLY needed to fight the GREENS back at home

Yikes

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Re: Scholl bemoans feminisation of German football

Post by Isco Benny on Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:22 pm

Otto, all this talk of balls:

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Post by Allez les rouges on Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:05 am

Ä wrote:
in Munich, the LESBIANS wanted to take over the "Christopher Street Day"

by calling it the "Christina Street Day"

Laugh lol!

the GAY MEN told the LESBIANS to go fuck themselves

which they probably did


Laughing

Wowi cheers
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Re: Scholl bemoans feminisation of German football

Post by Ä on Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:41 am

seems like the decline of Lahm, the DEFENDER, is continuing at WARP speed

Spiegel reports the first Hannover goal was the result of Lahm failing to clear the ball

+

Kicker report that Neapel scoring the equalizer in the CL was also preceded by a "Fussfehler" of Lahm

if you factor in Lahm's shitty performances for Germany recently, notably against Brazil, Turkey... and more famously Spain / Turkey in 2008

you start to wonder why ANYBODY still rates the lad as a Nationalmannschaft-quality defender, let alone a good one

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interesting stuff on the hierarchy debate

Löw is now OPENLY telling our PC hacks that the Mannschaft has a strong hierarchy

and Bierhoff just said that we had a CLEAR hierarchy

as if they had NEVER believed in this flat-hierarchy nonsense for ONE second

the question now is, whether the two have changed their mind

OR

when they merely NEVER contradicted the PC hacks who peddled the flat-hierarchy nonsense to get rid of Ballack

ie

once Ballack had been kicked out via a media campaign, the two clowns could set the record straight

quite treacherous , me thinks

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blut posted a Sammer interview in the Mannschaft thread, I think

where the East German speaks of leaders, anthems and the likes

top top stuff, as always

blut has criticised me in the past of linking politics, societal change with football

yet "funnily" the SZ hacks, PC to their bones , then start asking about LEADERS

and challenge Sammer to drop the term leader ( Führungsspieler )

in view of "our past"

Laugh

in other words, because the Austrians gave us Adolf, anything to do with leaders or leadership is now discredited

Laugh Doh

hence, also the obsession with FLAT hierarchies where leaders are no longer needed

confirms 100% what I said about the 68er still determining what the Zeitgeist is

rather worryingly, Sammer said he would "think about it" Yikes

the good news is that the YOUNG generation increasingly no longer even knows what those left-wing loonies are talking about

Müller now tells us that he was and never will be a stylish/elegant player

rather, his main strength is that he is a real KÄMPFER, and MENTALLY strong cheers

and Vettel makes no secret either about the fact that his main strength is his character

touching also to see Vettel with tears in his eyes when he hears the GERMAN anthem standing on his podium

often, he even sings parts of it, which nobody else seems to be doing in F1

well

not that anybody else gets the chance these days Smile

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some interesting stuff in the latest Philosophische Quartett

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/kanaluebersicht/aktuellste/156#/beitrag/video/1474502/Fix-und-fertig

in particular from Lütz who is always worth listening to Ale

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Post by Allez les rouges on Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:03 pm

That's all wrong about Müller, he's not a Kämpfer, rather a player characterized certainly not by his elegance (cf. Özil) – he doesn't really even look like a footballer – but by his unerring footballing instinct and ability always to do the right thing, to come up with off-the-cuff and genius moves for the benefit of the team.

Needless to say the truth about Vettel is obviously far more complex too.

And again, bizarre and outrageous spinning on a (not very illuminating) interview I read only yesterday:

This is what was hactually said:

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SZ: Vielleicht ist in der ganzen Debatte einfach der Begriff das Problem. "Führung" klingt unangenehm nach deutscher Geschichte, und bei "Führungsspieler" denkt man an Stefan Effenberg, der sich dafür rühmen lässt, David Beckham umgetreten zu haben. Oder an Lukas Podolski, der Michael Ballack ohrfeigt, weil er diese Art von Führung nicht mehr erträgt.

Sammer: Ich denke da eher an Fritz Walter, den ich leider nur mal kurz kennenlernen konnte. Der hat ja auch in dem 1954er-Film, den wir alle sehen durften, viel von dem verkörpert, was auch zur heutigen Spieler-Generation passt: enger Draht zum Trainer, Kritik intern geäußert, beim Spaziergang persönliche Gespräche geführt. Das verstehe ich auch unter "Führungsspieler". Aber vielleicht ist der Begriff tatsächlich missverständlich, darüber werden wir mal nachdenken.

SZ: Es wäre ein mutiger Schritt, den Begriff "Führungsspieler" abzuschaffen. Sie würden Ihr eigenes Denkmal abschaffen.
Sammer: Sehen Sie, das ist genau falsch. Ich habe nie öffentlich für mich in Anspruch genommen, dass ich ein Führungsspieler war. Meine Trainer haben das von mir eingefordert.

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There's no "demanding he abandon the term", it's simply suggesting why some people might have a problem with this boneheaded obsession with leaders/"Führer". To link it explicitly with the Third Reich would be pretty crass, so I would take that suggestion with a pinch of salt, or rather of humour, but I expect that's too nuanced for you. The point being more that a lot of this oh-so-highly praised "leadership" is associated by certain extremely egotistic players behaving like a massive knob and being anything but mannschaftsdienlich, as with Effenberg here, that you sound a bit like you, a clueless and lazy stereotyping generalist, if you go on about "LEADERS LEADERS LEADERZZZ, that is what we need".

So, understandable that he agrees he might need a more instructive term. Couldn't have less to do with the 68er Doh
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Re: Scholl bemoans feminisation of German football

Post by Ä on Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:42 pm

Allez les rouges wrote:

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SZ: Vielleicht ist in der ganzen Debatte einfach der Begriff das Problem. "Führung" klingt unangenehm nach deutscher Geschichte,

[i]SZ: Es wäre ein mutiger Schritt, den Begriff "Führungsspieler" abzuschaffen. Sie würden Ihr eigenes Denkmal abschaffen.


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There's no "demanding he abandon the term", it's simply suggesting why some people might have a problem with this boneheaded obsession with leaders/"Führer".

To link it explicitly with the Third Reich would be pretty crass, so I would take that suggestion with a pinch of salt, or rather of humour,

. Couldn't have less to do with the 68er Doh

Shocked scratch Yikes

agree on one point though

the SZ hacks do not DEMAND anything, and indeed, they are in no position to demand anything anyway

BUT

they strongly suggest that the usage of the term "leader" is misplaced and create a historic link for that

""SZ: Vielleicht ist in der ganzen Debatte einfach der Begriff das Problem. "Führung" klingt unangenehm nach deutscher Geschichte""

if you do not get THIS, allez, I suggest anglo gives you a lesson in

"DEUTSCH für Ausländer"

it's 100% clear and leaves nothing to your imagination or indeed Scottish-French humour

"deutsche Geschichte" in THIS context is pretty much a TOTSCHLAGARGUMENT in "educated circles"

as PC as it gets

and usually applied by 68er

although admittedly also by some members of the war-generation

just like the word "Solidarität" is used by the Kohl generation (often coupled with references to the war) to play the guilt card when it comes to bailing out our European "partners"

as for Müller

he describes his main strength as of the MENTAL kind and calls himself a KÄMFPER

if you disagree with THAT , don't shoot the messenger and rather send HIM an e_mail voicing YOUR concerns

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bizarrely, Sammer sees leadership potential in Kroos Yikes

and the Benders Yikes

the Dortmund Bender though just said that he was no leader yet and hoped to one day grow into that role

maybe , Sammer is trying to find what is not there

such is the desperation

have to say that MY MAN Sammer, together with MY MAN Hrubesch , are responsible for one of the biggest cock-ups in recent U-Germany history

"kicking KP Boateng out of the Mannschaft fold for insubordination"

it goes to show that two of the wisest, old-school German legends have softened themselves so much that Prince's behaviour was no longer acceptable to them

Yikes

Boateng SHITS on Khedira, the Benders... ANY DAY

colossal loss

colossal

Yikes

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Post by Allez les rouges on Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:04 pm

Nah. It's just a case of you reading

""Führung" klingt unangenehm nach deutscher Geschichte"

and going mental with faux-outrage. I don't take the comparison that seriously, though I can see the point (because someone could easily jokingly take the piss and ask what might lie behind this obsession with hierarchy, leadership, obedience – it fact it's surprising that people don't do it more often with you, but i guess that's because they're too polite).

You on the other hand can only see things alles oder nichts, black and white, 0% or 100% – Blut's point about your binary view of the world.

So what started off as an interesting debate on the merits and demerits of the outdated – or not – concept of the "Führungsspieler" becomes a disgraceful Totschlagargument and 68er conspiracy.

Doh indeed.

P.S. Boateng is a c**t who was happy to chuck in his native land for a country (a continent?) he'd never even set foot in. Good riddance says I


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Re: Scholl bemoans feminisation of German football

Post by Ä on Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:01 pm

http://www.welt.de/kultur/article13677732/Adolf-hat-die-Deutschen-noch-immer-fest-im-Griff.html

Smile

Stefánsson: Ich will mir kein Urteil über das Fachwissen deutscher Journalisten erlauben. Ich möchte nur sagen, dass sie alle ohne Ausnahme Arschlöcher („pieces of shit“) sind. Vielleicht sind sie sehr gebildete Arschlöcher, aber das ist mir gleich.

Broder: Und Ihnen ist noch nie jemand begegnet...

Stefánsson: Ich habe noch keinen anständigen deutschen Journalisten kennengelernt! Das ist wirklich seltsam .

cheers

Wenn man sich eine Nation wie die Deutschen ansieht – eine sehr gebildete Nation relativ kluger Menschen –, so lebt sie immer noch im Schatten des Zweiten Weltkrieges. Deshalb ist jeder so bemüht, sich politisch korrekt zu verhalten. Deswegen wirkt das Verhalten der Deutschen in vielerlei Hinsicht so unnatürlich. Sie sind katholischer als der Papst und ziemlich verklemmt. Adolf hat sie immer noch fest im Griff.

Ale

the OFFICIAL view from Iceland

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Post by Allez les rouges on Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:26 pm

This interview is indeed world-class and a lot of it is very true, but you must realize that you are a classic example of one of the "pieces of shit" yourself, with your dishonest, misrepresenting, agenda-driven sensationalism Smile
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Post by Ä on Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:28 pm

Allez les rouges wrote:This interview is indeed world-class and a lot of it is very true, but you must realize that you are a classic example of one of the "pieces of shit" yourself, with your dishonest, misrepresenting, agenda-driven sensationalism Smile

it's a SHOCKING interview, really

an ex-Harvard Icelandic scientist calls ALL German journalists he has ever met (and there are A LOT OF THEM)

politically correct pieces of shit

cheers Very Happy

sure

the Zeit, FR, Spiegel, SZ... all fit this bill

but he effectively includes the FAZ, Welt, Bild... as well

ALL of them POLITICALLY CORRECT to the bone

he claims

and THAT

SHOULD be a shocker indeed

Shocked

by my own calculation, there are about 5-8 good journalists left in the Vaterland

the rest are PURE PC EVIL

Shocked

Jan Fleischauer is one of the good ones

and ironically, he writes for the Spiegel

he claims that an INTERNAL poll at Die Welt revealed that over 70% of all Welt journalists were actually voting for the GREEN party

Shocked lol!

and joked that most of the Welt hacks really just wanted to write for the SZ

Die Welt, of course, is part of the Springer Group and the German equivalent of the Torygraph

Whistle

we have truly arrived at a point in Germany where IDEOLOGY trumps common sense, pragmatism, level headed analysis and a genuine striving for the TRUTH

you see it in politics, business, sports, journalism

EVERYWHERE

PC Agendas rule the roost

even in football

there are still a FEW knights in shining armour in the Vaterland though

people who will not crumble and give up

people who fight for the truth and JUSTICE

they make up a kind of Templar Knights

who meet secretly

and

work from the shadows

occasionally

they come out of the darkness

and spray the AGENDA driven walls of PC silence with cans of pure TRUTH

Wiese just did it in the current Sportbild

he pisses on Löw's parade and basically says it's all a sham

says he cannot hear this talk of a "modernes Torwarspiel" anymore

Biggrin

it's meaningless, he thinks

either you guard your goal EFFECTIVELY, which means you concede the lowest number of goals possible, or you do not

he points out that according to SAT 1 stats

the two most consistent Bundesliga keepers over the last 7 years are Weidenfeller and himself

then he criticises how FAST you become a Nationaltorhüter these days

"half a season" in the Bundesliga can be enough

he himself had to wait for over 150 games

the idea that the young generation is modern whereas the older one is old-fashioned, he has no time for either

saying, he himself is also mitspielend and knows how to THROW a ball as well

what the papers say just does not reflect REALITY <Ale>

ie

pure politically or rather sportically correct drivel

hiding under terms like "MODERN"

I wonder what Löw will make of this ??

Biggrin

talk of INTELLIGENT players is also NONSENSE

again

who could possibly be AGAINST intelligent players ?

sounds like common sense, right ?

Löw has to explain his loveaffair with Poldi, then, though

Whistle

also

he has to explain why stupid players can be geniuses on the pitch

and why Germany under his "intelligent" tutelage are made to look silly by countries like Spain, Serbia,...

alles TOTSCHLAGARGUMENTE

in the past, the media created an artificial battle between Ballack and Lahm

turns out MOST of the KIDS like Schürrle, Özil, Sam, Schweini... love Ballack and many distance themselves from Lahm

now our AGENDA driven hacks have cooled on Lahm somewhat

your beloved SZ, allez, tried to create a new "battle"

between Götze and Ballack/Lothar

lol!

Balle is simply too good and downright popular with the young talents, so they just lump him together with completely discredited Lothar and exchange increasingly unpopular Lahm with increasingly popular Götze

Laugh

our Icelandic scientist is RIGHT

ALL German journalists (with a handful of exceptions he has yet to meet) are

PIECES of SHIT

Ale Doh
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Post by Allez les rouges on Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:45 pm

Any links? Smile
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:55 pm

Templars?

Your increasingly paranoid and borderline insane ramblings are all fine and dandy dear otto, as long you don't start shooting some local Bavarian Juso meeting. I think that would be a tad bit politcally incorrect.
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Post by Ä on Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:30 pm

why can't WE have lunatics like that

(watch the video)

http://sportbild.bild.de/SPORT/fussball/international/2011/10/27/video-tv-kommentator-tiziano-crudeli/ac-milan-fan-flippt-bei-boateng-hattrick-voellig-aus.html

on German TV ?

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Post by Ä on Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:01 pm

Timo Boll

the German table.tennis.sensation

former number 1 in the world and current European Champs

has just published a book

that focuses on his experiences in CHINA

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/sport/mehr-sport/timo-bolls-biographie-rundlauf-mit-europameister-11504785.html

I browsed through it yesterday

two interesting points struck me

when Boll and his trainer studied the Chinese superplayers, they discovered that their style was VERY different

more physical

initially , they discussed ADOPTING the Chinese style, but then dismissed the idea, realising that Boll would NEVER be able to beat the Chinese at their own game

instead, they developed a style that allowed them to use the Chinese force to their advantage

they did not try to beat fire with fire, but with WATER cheers

kind of reminds me of Löw's ridiculous obsession to beat the Spanish at their OWN game

when really we should do the exact opposite, as Sammer has hinted as well Ale

also interesting, an interview with Boll's favourite player of all time, Kong Linghui

the Chinese declares admiration for Boll , BUT is also remarkably honest and direct about the German

saying

" we Chinese admire Boll's technique as well as his love for his family, how well he treats his wife"

Laugh

it has to be said that Boll may have beaten all the big Chinese guns at some point, BUT he ALWAYS fails to beat them when it counts

at the World Cups and Olympic games

Kong Linghui says that Boll maybe too much of a gentleman

that he is NOT AGGRESSIVE enough Yikes

and that he may not be MENTALLY STRONG ENOUGH EITHER Yikes

sounds pretty much that Boll is to table-tennis what Löw/Lahm/Schweini are to football

Yikes

and also reminds me of MY HEROES Kaymer, Dirkules...

they may, quite possibly be TOO NICE and sweet

imagine what Dirkules could have achieved with the personality of a Schumacher

Kaymer will also not fulfill his true potential

Vettel is THE exception

sweet on the outside, but made of TITANIUM on the inside

but an exception is an exception

recently, Zabel said about our super-sprinter, Andre Greipel, that he also lacked the killer instinct compared with Cavendish

Bernd Schuster now gave an interesting interview to 11 Freunde

he points out that ROBBEN may be a tad too selfish

that most stars, even at Real, wait for a signal from the coach when to play again after an injury

but Robben would immediately walk to the coach and say

I AM READY TO PLAY

NOW

Schuster thinks that can be a problem

BUT

let's face it, it's also what makes players like him a tad SPECIAL

and we Germans simply no longer produce RUTHLESS sportsmen (Vettel being the exception)

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Post by Allez les rouges on Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:33 pm

Agendas Ale
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Post by Ä on Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:15 pm

Allez les rouges wrote:Agendas Ale

the discussions with you, allez, are always so interesting Very Happy

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http://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/2011-10/wertstofftonne-recycling-abfall

na endlich

war aber auch höchste Zeit

lol!

der arme Antari hat jetzt natürlich noch mehr zu tun

Whistle Very Happy
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Post by Antarion on Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:08 pm

lol! Biggrin Violin

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Post by Antarion on Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:09 pm

Well you know i have exactly two bags and thats it Razz

Madness Smile
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Post by anglophileHedgehog on Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:11 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_kNeHWxF_U

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Post by Ä on Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:49 pm











http://www.bild.de/ratgeber/2011/schoenheit/umfrage-frauen-wuerden-iq-punkte-gegen-schoenheit-eintauschen-20911110.bild.html

65% of women say

that they would be willing to have 10 IQ points deducted, if they could correct one physical flaw instead

Smile

am I the only one who feels Löw would agree Whistle

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then again

German society has indeed become so feminised

with regards to the Greens/Merkel/Löw/Lahm... running the show these days

that one could cry buckets of German tears

HOWEVER

when you look at milksops like Lahm on the one hand

and then

ladies like Petkovic, our Top Ten Tennis lady

you could indeed conclude that the feminisation of the Vaterland was a good thing

Petkovic prefers to train physical fitness with MEN, we now learn

a particular favourite being

"Ultimate Frisbee"

trying to cheer her own "male" team on

she shouts at them

"wo ist der HASS ?"

(where is the HATRED ? )

and threatens

"euch in den HINTERN zu treten"

lol! Laugh

what a LEGEND

German WOMEN >>> German MEN

these days

imagine, Ballack shouting something like that to Schürrle though

and blut and allez would go absolutely NUTS

Smile

oh

and if you want to know what our ladies think of FLAT hierarchies

here's the answer




lol!



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Re: Scholl bemoans feminisation of German football

Post by Ä on Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:49 pm















here's the Al Pacino video "MODERN" coach Tuchel shows to his players



I wonder what Löw makes of that

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Re: Scholl bemoans feminisation of German football

Post by Ä on Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:28 pm










interview with Bierhoff about players "quietly" accepting their places in the hierarchy....

http://www.abendblatt.de/sport/fussball/article2088538/Bierhoff-Wir-brauchen-niemanden-der-rumbruellt.html

bizarrely, he also thinks that the Mannschaft developed between 2006 and 2008

when you think back to Austria/Switzerland, that is quite a statement

he suggests that the Mannschaft only really became Löw's Mannschaft after 2008 though

strangely, asked about loud leaders, he no longer says "they are obsolete", but rather wonders who they should pick

almost suggesting, that there is nobody out there with Ecken und Kanten

obviously, allez will not pick up on the subtleties yet again Smile

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a rather depressing book fell into my hands the other day at Hugendubel



Yikes Doh lol!

not sure whether to laugh or cry here

a mother describes how she tried to make a man out of her "verweiblichter" son Laugh

the crazy authoress would frankly have driven ANY son nuts Smile

but

the lady also describes in great detail our current school system and how it basically fails the lads 100%

driving the boys into a kind of mental asylum full of extremely brutal video games

which predictably the mothers than try everything in their power to forbid or discourage

...

I just don't understand why those often ferocious and very eloquent mothers of misunderstood SONS don't take on the feminised teaching establishment though

and just watch how their sons fall through the female teachers' cracks, left right and center

Doh

instead

they moan about the women in charge, and try to enrol their sons in all-male private schools , IF they have the money

Doh

the girls, meanwhile, outperform the boys in the female run schools by a HUGE margin

but are surprised to find that in the REAL world, it's FAR tougher and they no longer have protection from their female teachers

predictably, they find the "feminised" boys of their generation boring as hell also

Bild should published a poll amongst women about who these broads would like to SLEEP with

17% went for Ballack

0% went for Lahm

lol!

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the bitchy mother also claims that in schools today, any form of competition is frowned upon

all are equal and performance related tests were really only reintroduced with our German PISA fiasco shock

already in the Kindergarten "TOBEN" is almost forbidden, and when they have an excursion into the forest, nobody is allowed to climb up a tree or build a stone dam in a river and so it continues

very depressing

which explains our current Badstubers, Götzes, Kroos...

Yikes

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Post by Allez les rouges on Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:57 pm

The irony of you accusing anyone else of failing to comprehend subtleties is too tragic for words.

Shouldn't rise to the bait.
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Post by Allez les rouges on Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:00 pm

Ä wrote:


interview with Bierhoff about players "quietly" accepting their places in the hierarchy....

http://www.abendblatt.de/sport/fussball/article2088538/Bierhoff-Wir-brauchen-niemanden-der-rumbruellt.html

bizarrely, he also thinks that the Mannschaft developed between 2006 and 2008

when you think back to Austria/Switzerland, that is quite a statement


he suggests that the Mannschaft only really became Löw's Mannschaft after 2008 though

strangely, asked about loud leaders, he no longer says "they are obsolete", but rather wonders who they should pick

almost suggesting, that there is nobody out there with Ecken und Kanten

obviously, allez will not pick up on the subtleties yet again Smile

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Again, your absurd spinning has tied you in the most laughable knots:

What he hactually says is this:

[Hat die Nationalmannschaft das Niveau seit der WM 2010 steigern können?]

Bierhoff: Definitiv. 2006 war es so, dass vor allem Jürgen Klinsmann die Mannschaft mit Begeisterung und Engagement getrieben und gezogen hat. Wir haben damals viel von Erfahrung und Einsatz gelebt. Zur EM 2008 gab es mit einer ähnlichen Mannschaft eine leichte Weiterentwicklung unter Joachim Löw. Dann kam ein stärkerer personeller Bruch. Und 2010 entwickelte sich eine sehr junge, dynamische Mannschaft, von der ich sage: Das ist absolut Jogis Mannschaft, die haben seine Gedanken inhaliert.


To me, who apparently cannot pick up on subtleties, the word that springs out is "leicht", as in, he is being apologetic and not exactly forthright about any progress made in the two years subsequent to the World Cup. Which makes sense given the disappointing performances with the exception of the Portugal game, although we made the final.

If you don't focus on the tournament itself though, anyone who watched the team consistently could see that there was indeed progress, even with a relatively similar first XI to 2006, from the previous World Cup, with many new players blooded. 2007 in particular was a great year, and things went well after 2008 too with the critical wins home and away to Russia. There was a reason why Germany were among the top favourites for '08 before admittedly playing rather like turd for most of the tournament, by which time it suddenly seemed that the likes of Frings and Metze had had their day.

(Although given the style of performances coupled with struggling through to another final, one might have thought that was your ideal kind of team scratch )
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Re: Scholl bemoans feminisation of German football

Post by Fey on Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:16 pm

Ä wrote:













here's the Al Pacino video "MODERN" coach Tuchel shows to his players



I wonder what Löw makes of that

Very Happy

This was shown to the u-19 aka nbkk's before their crucial match with Germany!



They won with 3-0.

cheers
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Re: Scholl bemoans feminisation of German football

Post by Ä on Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:36 pm













Smile

have you watched "Any Given Sunday" , fey ?

it really is a quite brilliant movie

our two PC friends on here will be suitably shocked, of course

Wink
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Re: Scholl bemoans feminisation of German football

Post by Fey on Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:46 pm

Naturally!

A few times even, I believe I even have a copy of it. I liked the cover of that movie.

It's a bit long though, but underrated movie nontheless.

Our PC friends LOVE this movie! A woman in control of a footballclub!! That's pants jizzing stuff for them!

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Re: Scholl bemoans feminisation of German football

Post by Allez les rouges on Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:48 pm

http://team.dfb.de/de/videos/loew-schal-wird-versteigert-/page/4567.html?1321533535

Ale

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