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Post by fcb on Wed May 26, 2010 3:58 pm

This one will rumble on, so we may as well keep all discussions here instead of splitting them up in the Arsenal/Barça threads.

Today Cesc gave a press conference at Spain's World Cup training camp.

http://sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=716934&idseccio_PK=803

He basically says he doesn't want to talk about his future and is focused on the World Cup. Quick translation of the rest of the quotes in that article:


I had a long conversation with Wenger, it was probably one of the best conversations I've had with anyone in my life. As I respect him a lot, I don't want to talk about it. I feel a deep respect for Arsenal the club and its fans.

Wenger told me to concentrate on the World Cup and my football. And leave the negotiations in his hands. That's what I'm doing, concentrating on my football. I don't want to say anything more, I am mentally ready for the World Cup. The rest is all the future, and I'm not interested in the future.

Sounds like he wants out. Now it just depends on whether Arsenal will keep him against his wishes, or agree to sell him but at a relatively low fee (from their perspective) of 30-35m euros.


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Post by Jaime on Wed May 26, 2010 4:02 pm

They are not going to sell him for 30-35m. If Barcelona come with 50m euro I think Arsenal will sell and I suspect Laporta will, sooner than later, make that bid. It would drive him absolutely crazy to think about Rosell being the one to finalise the deal in a year (remember Calderon and how he kept going on about Ronaldo being 'his' signing?).

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Post by Guest on Wed May 26, 2010 4:08 pm

Cesc fabregas transfer saga time line

Thursday, May 13

Cesc Fabregas: I think I would like to go to Barcelona - whether they want me, who knows?
Arsenal captain states in a question-and-answer session in Spain that should he leave the Gunners then it would be for Barcelona, uttering the ominous words, "I think I would like to go to Barcelona."

Friday, May 14

Fabregas: My future needs to be resolved before World Cup
Fabregas insisted that he would like to have his future settled before the 2010 World Cup.

Saturday, May 15

Xavi:I'd love Cesc Fabregas to join us
Midfielder admitted he would "love" Fabregas to return to the Spanish giants this summer.


Tuesday, May 18

Cesc Fabregas flew back to London but closer than ever to Barcelona switch


Barcelona officials claimed Cesc Fabregas & David Villa want to join Barca - but Arsenal insisted there had not yet been any official approach
Club officials at Barcelona declared that Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas and Valencia striker David Villa want to sign for the Spanish champions and had confirmed that they were working towards bringing the duo to Catalunya.

Cesc Fabregas told Arsene Wenger in 'emotional' meeting that he wants to quit Arsenal for Barcelona


Wednesday, May 19

Barca's transfers guru Txiki Begiristain hopeful that Cesc Fabregas will leave Arsenal
Technical secretary Txiki Begiristain sure that Arsenal skipper Cesc Fabregas will definitely move to Camp Nou soon.


Arsenal still yet to receive any offer for Barcelona target Cesc Fabregas


I want to go home, Cesc admitted his only destination would be Barcelona



Arsenal raised price that Barcelona would have to pay for star Cesc Fabregas to £80m, according to the Daily Mail.


Barcelona presidential candidate Sandro Rosell warns 'stratospheric debt' could scupper deal for Arsenal's Cesc Fabregas



Friday May 21

Arsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood: We will 'do our damnedest' to keep Cesc Fabregas from going to 'funny business' Barcelona
EXCLUSIVE: Peter Hill-Wood declared that Arsenal will fight tooth and nail to hang on to Cesc Fabregas, and the board have not even discussed the fee needed to prise their talismanic skipper from Emirates Stadium.



Barcelona prepared to send Alexander Hleb back to Arsenal as part of Cesc Fabregas deal, claimed the Daily Mail.

Txiki confirms Barcelona have made an approach for Fabregas, but have not yet heard back from Arsenal

At David Villa's unveiling and press conference, the technical secretary revealed that Barca have finally made the first move by asking Arsenal if they are willing to open negotiations for the sale of Cesc Fabregas

Monday May 24

Oliver, we have made initial contact with arsenal we expect it to be a long process.

Tuesday May 25

Fabregas Senior, Arsenal send my son home


May 26

Cesc states again his desire to leave arsenal.

May 27

The Saga continues...
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Post by Cesc Soler on Wed May 26, 2010 4:19 pm

If we let him go for £30m-£35m Wenger and the board would have hell to pay. He has five years left to run on his contract and judging by these comments and his personality in general I doubt he is going to have one massive sulk if a deal doesn't materialize, he has to much respect for the club for histrionics. I suspect Wenger made it perfectly clear to Fabregas what the minimum price would be for any transfer to happen. If Barcelona wanted him that bad they wouldn't have spent all that money on David Villa to begin with.

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Post by stinger on Wed May 26, 2010 4:40 pm

Cesc Soler wrote:If we let him go for £30m-£35m Wenger and the board would have hell to pay. He has five years left to run on his contract and judging by these comments and his personality in general I doubt he is going to have one massive sulk if a deal doesn't materialize, he has to much respect for the club for histrionics. I suspect Wenger made it perfectly clear to Fabregas what the minimum price would be for any transfer to happen. If Barcelona wanted him that bad they wouldn't have spent all that money on David Villa to begin with.
Money spent on Villa are not a problem here. Barca probably has (or can find) money to meet Arsenal's valuation, IMHO it's more of matter of principles - to not paid crazy (and for me 30m is already crazy) money for "our" player...
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Post by TITO on Wed May 26, 2010 4:44 pm

Its crazy enough that we are replacing Yaya with Cesc when we obviously dont need that.
Everybody can see that, why cant the board see it, or the coaching staff?

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Post by Guest on Wed May 26, 2010 4:48 pm

TITO wrote:Its crazy enough that we are replacing Yaya with Cesc when we obviously dont need that.
Everybody can see that, why cant the board see it, or the coaching staff?

Pep is fairly shit at transfers i cannot tell a lie.
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Post by Six on Wed May 26, 2010 4:50 pm

Messiah wrote:Cesc fabregas transfer saga time line

Thursday, May 13 3pm

Cesc Fabregas: I think I would like to go to Barcelona - whether they want me, who knows?
Arsenal captain states in a question-and-answer session in Spain that should he leave the Gunners then it would be for Barcelona, uttering the ominous words, "I think I would like to go to Barcelona."

Thursday, May 13 4pm

Everyone is bored to tears.
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Post by fcb on Wed May 26, 2010 6:09 pm

Cesc Soler wrote:If we let him go for £30m-£35m Wenger and the board would have hell to pay. He has five years left to run on his contract and judging by these comments and his personality in general I doubt he is going to have one massive sulk if a deal doesn't materialize, he has to much respect for the club for histrionics. I suspect Wenger made it perfectly clear to Fabregas what the minimum price would be for any transfer to happen. If Barcelona wanted him that bad they wouldn't have spent all that money on David Villa to begin with.

5 years x 52 weeks x 80k a week = roughly 21m euros

If anything, you should be grateful that Laporta is offering you a 10-15m premium Razz
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Post by Tweesus on Wed May 26, 2010 6:49 pm

£30m isn't going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if we were to settle for a deal of about £40m though, possibly with a player swap as well. It looks as though Touré is unlikely to maybe Milito or Chyrnginsky
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Post by fcb on Wed May 26, 2010 6:51 pm

Milito is even more unlikely Laughing
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Post by Torrente on Wed May 26, 2010 7:09 pm

Hleb advises Cesc not to sign for Barcelona lol!




Gran parte del barcelonismo desea ver a Cesc en el Barça de nuevo, incluso el propio jugador ha declarado por activa y por pasiva que sólo quiere vestir la camiseta blaugrana la próxima temporada.

Sin embargo, su ex compañero en el Arsenal, Alexander Hleb, que fichó por el FC Barcelona -siendo cedido la pasada temporada al Stuttgart-, ha declarado que si él fuera Cesc, no se movería del Emirates. El bielorruso opina que al de Arenys le costaría adaptarse como le pasó a él en su primer año en el Camp Nou.

"Estoy muy en contacto con Cesc y me es difícil decirle que debería de hacer. Tanto él como Clichy son dos buenos jugadores y ellos tiene que decidir. Pero si yo fuera ellos no me movería del Arsenla", señaló.

Hleb cree que pese a que este año el equipo que dirige Arsène Wenger no ha funcionado como se esperaba, puede lograr títulos en el futuro si el grupo continúa intacto.

"Creo que tienen una gran oportunidad para ganar la Premier el año que viene", concluyó.



Hleb cheers
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Post by Cesc Soler on Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:42 pm

Club makes formal offer for Cesc

Club Director General Joan Oliver has confirmed that Barca have made a formal written offer to Arsenal for Cesc Fabregas.

During the presentation of the club’s new sponsorship deal with Herbalife, Joan Oliver revealed more details of the negotiations with the London club to sign Cesc.

Formal transfer period opens

Sr Oliver explained: “everybody knows that Cesc wants to sign for Barca and that we also want him to come here, but there is also a third party involved –Arsenal. Any agreement has to be with them. The official window for transfer negotiations opened on June 1st and although we’d had unofficial conversations with them before yesterday, we’ve now made a formal written offer, which we presented to Arsenal yesterday afternoon”.

Yuste is optimistic

Club Vice-President Rafael Yuste also spoke of Cesc’s possible signing and claimed: “I’m optimistic that he’ll be able to sign for Barca as soon as possible and it’s clear that everybody here will give him a warm welcome. We’ll do nothing that might make it more difficult for him to come here and we won’t rush things – but we won’t stop either!”

Yuste gave no more details, explaining that Txiki Beguiristain and Raül Sanllehí were leading the negotiations.

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/english/noticies/futbol/temporada09-10/06/02/n100602111345.html
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Post by Jaime on Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:10 pm

Apparently the offer is 40m euro. Laughing
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Post by fcb on Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:31 pm

Grr

How much of it is Hleb Whistle


btw, Herbalife? wtf scratch
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Post by Cesc Soler on Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:03 pm

Arsenal turn down Barca offer for Fabregas

Arsenal Football Club have today released the following statement about captain Cesc Fabregas:

"Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas is under contract with the Club until the summer of 2015. He is a highly valued member of the team and part of our future plans.

"We have followed recent speculation linking Cesc with a move away from the Club but as there has never been any official approach for him, only two informal exchanges, in which we made it abundantly clear that we have no interest in transferring Cesc, we have refrained from publicly passing comment. However, yesterday evening we received an offer from Barcelona for Cesc and in response, we immediately and resolutely told them once again that we have no intention of selling our captain.

"To be clear, we will not make any kind of counterproposal or enter into any discussion. Barcelona have publicly stated that they will respect our position and we expect that they will keep their word."

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-turn-down-barca-offer-for-fabregas
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Post by Super Progress on Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:11 pm

Cesc Soler wrote:
Arsenal turn down Barca offer for Fabregas

Arsenal Football Club have today released the following statement about captain Cesc Fabregas:

"Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas is under contract with the Club until the summer of 2015. He is a highly valued member of the team and part of our future plans.

"We have followed recent speculation linking Cesc with a move away from the Club but as there has never been any official approach for him, only two informal exchanges, in which we made it abundantly clear that we have no interest in transferring Cesc, we have refrained from publicly passing comment. However, yesterday evening we received an offer from Barcelona for Cesc and in response, we immediately and resolutely told them once again that we have no intention of selling our captain.

"To be clear, we will not make any kind of counterproposal or enter into any discussion. Barcelona have publicly stated that they will respect our position and we expect that they will keep their word."

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-turn-down-barca-offer-for-fabregas
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More money to be spent. The thing is that if Laporta doesn't make the deal in time then Rosell surely will just to show up Lapporta.

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Post by Jaime on Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:18 pm

Super Madrid wrote:
Cesc Soler wrote:
Arsenal turn down Barca offer for Fabregas

Arsenal Football Club have today released the following statement about captain Cesc Fabregas:

"Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas is under contract with the Club until the summer of 2015. He is a highly valued member of the team and part of our future plans.

"We have followed recent speculation linking Cesc with a move away from the Club but as there has never been any official approach for him, only two informal exchanges, in which we made it abundantly clear that we have no interest in transferring Cesc, we have refrained from publicly passing comment. However, yesterday evening we received an offer from Barcelona for Cesc and in response, we immediately and resolutely told them once again that we have no intention of selling our captain.

"To be clear, we will not make any kind of counterproposal or enter into any discussion. Barcelona have publicly stated that they will respect our position and we expect that they will keep their word."

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-turn-down-barca-offer-for-fabregas
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More money to be spent. The thing is that if Laporta doesn't make the deal in time then Rosell surely will just to show up Lapporta.

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And Ingla has already said they will 'pay whatever it takes' to bring Cesc. Biggrin
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Post by Super Progress on Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:19 pm

Jaime wrote:
Super Madrid wrote:
Cesc Soler wrote:
Arsenal turn down Barca offer for Fabregas

Arsenal Football Club have today released the following statement about captain Cesc Fabregas:

"Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas is under contract with the Club until the summer of 2015. He is a highly valued member of the team and part of our future plans.

"We have followed recent speculation linking Cesc with a move away from the Club but as there has never been any official approach for him, only two informal exchanges, in which we made it abundantly clear that we have no interest in transferring Cesc, we have refrained from publicly passing comment. However, yesterday evening we received an offer from Barcelona for Cesc and in response, we immediately and resolutely told them once again that we have no intention of selling our captain.

"To be clear, we will not make any kind of counterproposal or enter into any discussion. Barcelona have publicly stated that they will respect our position and we expect that they will keep their word."

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-turn-down-barca-offer-for-fabregas
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More money to be spent. The thing is that if Laporta doesn't make the deal in time then Rosell surely will just to show up Lapporta.

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And Ingla has already said they will 'pay whatever it takes' to bring Cesc. Biggrin
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Post by Axeslammer on Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:20 pm

@Torrente : your avatar is fucking up the entire thread....

I know it's not much of a thread to start with, but please show some compassion for your fellow posters Wink
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Post by The Pröfessör on Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:39 pm

Cesc Soler wrote:
Arsenal turn down Barca offer for Fabregas

Arsenal Football Club have today released the following statement about captain Cesc Fabregas:

"Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas is under contract with the Club until the summer of 2015. He is a highly valued member of the team and part of our future plans.

"We have followed recent speculation linking Cesc with a move away from the Club but as there has never been any official approach for him, only two informal exchanges, in which we made it abundantly clear that we have no interest in transferring Cesc, we have refrained from publicly passing comment. However, yesterday evening we received an offer from Barcelona for Cesc and in response, we immediately and resolutely told them once again that we have no intention of selling our captain.

"To be clear, we will not make any kind of counterproposal or enter into any discussion. Barcelona have publicly stated that they will respect our position and we expect that they will keep their word."
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-turn-down-barca-offer-for-fabregas

In other words, Barca should FUCK OFF!! ok

Let's see if they have enough classs in them to keep to their word.

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Post by Glenarch of the Glen on Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:21 pm

Very Happy Barcelona offered €20m

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Post by Super Progress on Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:24 pm

Xavi confident of Fabregas deal

Barcelona midfielder Xavi says Cesc Fabregas is certain to leave Arsenal for Camp Nou this summer.

Fabregas has long been linked with a return to his former club but, although Barca have previously expressed interest, it appeared the midfielder was happy to stay at Emirates Stadium for the time being.

However, he has recently indicated that he wants to make the move this summer and Spain team-mate Xavi, who has previously said Fabregas has "Barca DNA", now believes the deal is set to go through.

Asked if he expects Fabregas to join Barca this summer, Xavi told Sport: "Yes, certainly, and it also had to be like this.

"Two years ago, I said Cesc would end up playing for Barcelona, and now it is clearer than ever. He has also expressed publicly that he wants to come to Barcelona and when a player wants to move to some place he ends up going.

"It is clear that Cesc will come to Barcelona."

Reports suggest Arsene Wenger is looking to sign Bordeaux playmaker Yoann Gourcuff as a replacement should Fabregas move on.

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Post by fcb on Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:55 pm

Super Madrid wrote:
Cesc Soler wrote:
Arsenal turn down Barca offer for Fabregas

Arsenal Football Club have today released the following statement about captain Cesc Fabregas:

"Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas is under contract with the Club until the summer of 2015. He is a highly valued member of the team and part of our future plans.

"We have followed recent speculation linking Cesc with a move away from the Club but as there has never been any official approach for him, only two informal exchanges, in which we made it abundantly clear that we have no interest in transferring Cesc, we have refrained from publicly passing comment. However, yesterday evening we received an offer from Barcelona for Cesc and in response, we immediately and resolutely told them once again that we have no intention of selling our captain.

"To be clear, we will not make any kind of counterproposal or enter into any discussion. Barcelona have publicly stated that they will respect our position and we expect that they will keep their word."

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-turn-down-barca-offer-for-fabregas
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More money to be spent. The thing is that if Laporta doesn't make the deal in time then Rosell surely will just to show up Lapporta.

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I don't get why people think that. If Rosell wants a glamour transfer, Cesc won't be it. Far too much potential controversy around re-signing a former youth team player, no matter how good he is, for a huge fee.
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Post by Jaime on Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:57 pm

kas wrote:
Super Madrid wrote:
Cesc Soler wrote:
Arsenal turn down Barca offer for Fabregas

Arsenal Football Club have today released the following statement about captain Cesc Fabregas:

"Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas is under contract with the Club until the summer of 2015. He is a highly valued member of the team and part of our future plans.

"We have followed recent speculation linking Cesc with a move away from the Club but as there has never been any official approach for him, only two informal exchanges, in which we made it abundantly clear that we have no interest in transferring Cesc, we have refrained from publicly passing comment. However, yesterday evening we received an offer from Barcelona for Cesc and in response, we immediately and resolutely told them once again that we have no intention of selling our captain.

"To be clear, we will not make any kind of counterproposal or enter into any discussion. Barcelona have publicly stated that they will respect our position and we expect that they will keep their word."

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-turn-down-barca-offer-for-fabregas
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More money to be spent. The thing is that if Laporta doesn't make the deal in time then Rosell surely will just to show up Lapporta.

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I don't get why people think that. If Rosell wants a glamour transfer, Cesc won't be it. Far too much potential controversy around re-signing a former youth team player, no matter how good he is, for a huge fee.

Because they hate each other. Surely Rosell would love to see Laporta fail in his attempt to bring Cesc and then later succeed himself in the same operation.

The glamour signing will be Robinho though.
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Post by fcb on Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:00 pm

Yeah but what I'm saying is the Cesc transfer is so loaded, that Rosell could easily say "Laporta was ridiculous enough to try and pay 40m for a youth team player, I'm going to invest the money in other positions that are more beneficial to the team".
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Post by Jaime on Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:09 pm

kas wrote:Yeah but what I'm saying is the Cesc transfer is so loaded, that Rosell could easily say "Laporta was ridiculous enough to try and pay 40m for a youth team player, I'm going to invest the money in other positions that are more beneficial to the team".

Perhaps. I guess Rosell can spin it either way. You never no what those nutty catalans are thinking.

Anyhow - what are the SPORT/MD polls saying? Do cules want Cesc back?
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Post by fcb on Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:12 pm

I don't recall any recent polls apart from one on MD asking how much would you pay for Cesc. The majority was 30m (which was the lowest option so quite obvious) but a big percentage were ok with 40m too. Beyond that the votes were minimal.

So I guess yes, people do want him back.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:23 pm

Pep wants Cesc so Rosell will push for cesc as much as possible, Laporta has pawned him in very way possible over the years, I'm sure he will want to so ha look i got player that you couldn't.

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Post by L r dd on Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:25 pm

A team winning all in front of them. A team where most of the players are youth players you pay no money for. And you're still increasing your debt with crazy buys. Barcelona Ale ok Doh

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