Let's talk about Cesc baby...all summer long

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Post by fcb on Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:09 am

And in today's episode of "Disgraceful actions done to Cesc Fabregas by those rude people of Barcelona", we have him surrounded by a bunch of kids in a swimming pool, threatening to drown him if he doesn't sign.



Disgrace I tell you. Disgrace!
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Post by fcb on Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:19 pm

You guys will love these new comments from Xavi today:

"Depende del Barcelona y del Arsenal. Cesc ya ha dicho que quiere venir. Ojalá juegue con nosotros. Él y yo somos compatibles. Es un jugador con el ADN del Barça".

It depends on Barça and Arsenal. Cesc has said that he wants to come. I hope he plays with us. Him and I are compatible. He is a player with the Barça DNA.

lol! lol! lol!
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Post by TheCrazy58 on Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:16 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/16/barcelona-president-arsenal-cesc-fabregas

Barcelona president plays down chase for Arsenal's Cesc Fábregas• Rosell says bid may wait until next summer

• Spain midfielder is on post-World Cup holiday

)Matt Scott guardian.co.uk, Friday 16 July 2010 19.47 BST Article history

Cesc Fábregas appears certain to be Arsenal's captain next season after the Barcelona president today said his club would not attempt to buy the Spain midfielder this summer. However, Sandro Rosell said that he intends to make a new offer for Fábregas next year.

"Arsenal feel very hurt by Barça," Rosell told Catalan television. "They don't want to listen to offers or sell and they are not putting the player on the market. There was a strong dispute a few months ago and they have not forgotten it. He will come, even if it is not now, it will be next year. We will see. One thing that is certain is that we will not be throwing the house at trying to sign him. No shareholder would pay €60m [£50.6m] or €70m [£59.1m] for him. We would only pay his value in the transfer market."

Arsenal see their captain as priceless and their angry reaction to what they considered to be a derisory first bid, of €30m [£25.3m], was hardly surprising. Barça's recent €27m [£22.8m] sale of Yaya Touré to Manchester City provides context: the Ivorian is a defensive midfielder who was rejected by Arsenal seven years ago.

Arsenal will hope that Rosell's words draw a line under another summer of speculation, of the kind that was a perennial feature of the close season when Patrick Vieira and Thierry Henry captained the club. However, Arsenal will not be sure that the matter is closed until Fábregas returns for training after his extended break following Spain's run to the World Cup final.

If Fábregas handed in a transfer request, the scenario would change again. In that event Arsenal would appeal to him to recognise the financial consequences for both player and club. If Fábregas submits a transfer request he will forfeit loyalty bonuses worth millions of pounds and significantly reduce the fee Arsenal could demand from Barcelona.

As matters stand, the Catalans have been forced to admit that they are moving towards a period of austerity and that Fábregas is out of their reach.

"We are making a policy to rationalise our costs, using common sense and prudence," said Rosell.

Despite his Spain team-mates' post-World Cup prank of forcing him to wear a Barcelona shirt, Fábregas's most recent comments have indicated that he will stay in north London. He dedicated his World Cup winner's medal to Arsenal's players, fans, manager and staff this week.

His bond with Arsène Wenger is strong but the manager's contract has only 11 months to run. Both club and manager foresee talks on an extension being resolved in the coming months, but should such talks stall then Arsenal could face the prospect of losing their captain and their manager next summer.

Erm

God knows, Barca can still do a U-turn and have another go though it appears Rossell has changed his tack and is now looking to use this missed opportunity as another ammunition against Laporta. In any case their time and money (whatever they can scratch together from the back of the sofa) would be better spent on Torres who'd be a lot more available than Cesc will be this summer.
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Re: Let's talk about Cesc baby...all summer long

Post by COTR on Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:48 pm

1) Torres isn't available

2) Torres is more expensive

3) Have you seen Torres trying to play Tic-tac football ?


They would be better off just saving the money until Cesc demands to leave next summer

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Post by stinger on Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:55 pm

I don't think possibility of "saving money for next year" is something people at Barca are aware of.
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Post by debaser on Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:01 pm

kas wrote:You guys will love these new comments from Xavi today:

"Depende del Barcelona y del Arsenal. Cesc ya ha dicho que quiere venir. Ojalá juegue con nosotros. Él y yo somos compatibles. Es un jugador con el ADN del Barça".

It depends on Barça and Arsenal. Cesc has said that he wants to come. I hope he plays with us. Him and I are compatible. He is a player with the Barça DNA.

lol! lol! lol!

Sometimes I have cause to wonder whether footballers know anything about genetics.

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Post by Hem fet un.. on Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:09 am

TheCrazy58 wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/16/barcelona-president-arsenal-cesc-fabregas

Barcelona president plays down chase for Arsenal's Cesc Fábregas• Rosell says bid may wait until next summer

• Spain midfielder is on post-World Cup holiday

)Matt Scott guardian.co.uk, Friday 16 July 2010 19.47 BST Article history

Cesc Fábregas appears certain to be Arsenal's captain next season after the Barcelona president today said his club would not attempt to buy the Spain midfielder this summer. However, Sandro Rosell said that he intends to make a new offer for Fábregas next year.

"Arsenal feel very hurt by Barça," Rosell told Catalan television. "They don't want to listen to offers or sell and they are not putting the player on the market. There was a strong dispute a few months ago and they have not forgotten it. He will come, even if it is not now, it will be next year. We will see. One thing that is certain is that we will not be throwing the house at trying to sign him. No shareholder would pay €60m [£50.6m] or €70m [£59.1m] for him. We would only pay his value in the transfer market."

Arsenal see their captain as priceless and their angry reaction to what they considered to be a derisory first bid, of €30m [£25.3m], was hardly surprising. Barça's recent €27m [£22.8m] sale of Yaya Touré to Manchester City provides context: the Ivorian is a defensive midfielder who was rejected by Arsenal seven years ago.

Arsenal will hope that Rosell's words draw a line under another summer of speculation, of the kind that was a perennial feature of the close season when Patrick Vieira and Thierry Henry captained the club. However, Arsenal will not be sure that the matter is closed until Fábregas returns for training after his extended break following Spain's run to the World Cup final.

If Fábregas handed in a transfer request, the scenario would change again. In that event Arsenal would appeal to him to recognise the financial consequences for both player and club. If Fábregas submits a transfer request he will forfeit loyalty bonuses worth millions of pounds and significantly reduce the fee Arsenal could demand from Barcelona.

As matters stand, the Catalans have been forced to admit that they are moving towards a period of austerity and that Fábregas is out of their reach.

"We are making a policy to rationalise our costs, using common sense and prudence," said Rosell.

Despite his Spain team-mates' post-World Cup prank of forcing him to wear a Barcelona shirt, Fábregas's most recent comments have indicated that he will stay in north London. He dedicated his World Cup winner's medal to Arsenal's players, fans, manager and staff this week.

His bond with Arsène Wenger is strong but the manager's contract has only 11 months to run. Both club and manager foresee talks on an extension being resolved in the coming months, but should such talks stall then Arsenal could face the prospect of losing their captain and their manager next summer.

Erm

God knows, Barca can still do a U-turn and have another go though it appears Rossell has changed his tack and is now looking to use this missed opportunity as another ammunition against Laporta. In any case their time and money (whatever they can scratch together from the back of the sofa) would be better spent on Torres who'd be a lot more available than Cesc will be this summer.

finally some sense... we have a right of first refusal, so if we dont want to wait 2012 at least we will have an idea of what is going on..
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Post by Romford Pele on Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:39 pm

Arsene Wenger is expecting the transfer speculation surrounding Cesc Fabregas to stop after talking to the Arsenal captain.

Barcelona have been trying to persuade the Gunners to sell Fabregas this summer and have seen one offer flatly rejected by the Premier League club.

Fabregas has previously suggested he would be keen to return to Camp Nou, but Arsenal have been steadfast in their refusal to countenance his exit.

New Barca president Sandro Rosell has now all-but conceded defeat in his bid to sign the Spain international this year and Wenger is hoping the rumours will grind to a halt.

Too much talk
"There was too much talk," the Arsenal manager told Sky Sports News.

"I always said that we are really, really wanting him to stay as he is such an important player for us.

"He's our captain, we want to keep him and that's why we are not listening to any offers.

"It just was not a problem of money, just the desire to keep him at the club.

"It is stopped (the talk). We never wanted to start anyway."

Wenger confirmed he had discussed the situation with the midfielder, but did not want to divulge the contents of the conversation.

He added: "I have spoken to him, of course, but I never come out publicly with what we talk about.

"There was a lot of unneeded talk that was not helpful for Arsenal Football Club and that's why I don't think we have to add anything to that.

"I know what is important for us. Arsenal Football Club is a massive club and what is important is that everybody focuses on being successful next season."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_6267852,00.html
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Post by TheCrazy58 on Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:51 pm

I doubt if it will stop. And the person who's come out of it worst is Cesc - he was complicit and his standing with Arsenal fans have been damaged, no question about that. I doubt if he'd have acted the way he did if he didn't have good reason to think that Barca will get him out and he's been let down. A rather shabby way to treat a player they claim to have their DNA in him.
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Post by fcb on Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:32 am

So now it's Barça who are the villains for treating him badly and breaking his relationship by the Arsenal fans by not signing him Laugh

Stop spinning this all kinds of ways, Arsenal fans. Just come to terms with the fact that Cesc wants out, and the only thing Wenger will achieve by keeping him this summer, is getting a lower fee for him when he inevitably leaves next summer ok
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Post by Cesc Soler on Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:34 am

You've been saying the "inevitably leaves next summer" line for the last four years, haven't you learn't your lesson yet?

The Spanish media must be better than I originally thought if Hem fet un.. thinks Barca have a first option and Kas believes they can get him for a lower fee. Unless the price is something that we find acceptable we are just going to find ourselves living out the same scenario again and with the same outcome.



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Post by fcb on Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:17 am

Yes, but this is the first summer where Barça have actually made an official bid, and more crucially, the first time Cesc has openly spoken of his desire to leave. This time I genuinely don't see him staying beyond next summer, unless Arsenal win something. Wenger can't convince him to stay forever.

Barça do have a "first option" of sorts - basically, one of the conditions when he was sold (or rather, when the compensation deal for him being stolen was being worked out) was that if any club makes an offer, Barça have first option to match that offer.

Let me ask, what price is acceptable for a player you got on a free transfer, has spent 6 years with you, and wants to leave?

I believe the value of the remainder of his contract is around 35m euros (hence the initial bid). How much of a premium do you expect on top of that?

Keep in mind that this is not a 'normal' signing for Barça...there are mixed feelings about it in a purely sporting sense anyway, and even more doubts from a political aspect. You can expect 60m or 70m or whatever from Real Madrid or Inter, not Barcelona.

The board is spending big money for one of our own youth players that was nicked away. You took advantage of the player's desire to leave when he was 16, we'll most certainly take advantage of his desire to leave now Ale
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Post by TheCrazy58 on Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:22 am

kas wrote:So now it's Barça who are the villains for treating him badly and breaking his relationship by the Arsenal fans by not signing him Laugh

Stop spinning this all kinds of ways, Arsenal fans. Just come to terms with the fact that Cesc wants out, and the only thing Wenger will achieve by keeping him this summer, is getting a lower fee for him when he inevitably leaves next summer ok

I don't dispute the fact that Cesc was complicit in the whole affair, as I said, but the way Barca made such a circus of it, as a sideshow of the tawdry power contest, was pretty poor. That we would not let him leave without a fight was only to be expected, and if there was actual serious intention to get Cesc this summer they did everything to scupper it by engaging in a very public tapping up campaign, which showed total lack of respect for Arsenal and only hardened the club's resolve to hang onto him. My take is that they always knew they wouldn't be able to afford Arsenal's asking price, and are even now looking to pressurise Cesc into handing in a transfer request, but that may be a bridge too far for Cesc however much he wants to go back.

I still love Barca for their football, but I don't like what I see from the club these days.

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Post by L r dd on Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:27 am

Barca are c**ts but what the fuck are Arsenal fans complaining about. He wants to leave you STOLE the fucker. He has given Arsenal some great years and whatever you make is pure profit. Look how well Pique has done for them possibly the best CB in the world right now we sold him for 5 million or something. You're getting 40 for Cesc. For a team who has stole Barca youngsters for fun the complaints because they're going to buy one of them back is unbelievable.

You ripped them off for Hleb and a few others as well ffs.
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Post by bluenine on Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:22 am

I just cannot understand why Barca want Cesc back... he ditched them at 16, before he could contribute/repay Barca for their faith in him... why would Barca want to give him another chance, and encourage such behaviour? If I were a Barca fan, I would prefer the president publically makes it clear that Fabregas would never play for Barca again, ever... Just so that the existing 16 yr olds in your academy watch & learn.

And its not like Barca really need Cesc, good player that he is, but with Iniesta & Xavi their midfield is pretty well covered.

And yes, I don't like the public tactics Barca are employing in this case... never a good idea to destablise the other club... maybe it will be poetic justice if Barca manage to get Cesc back, only for Wenger to snare away a bunch of gifted kids from Barca's academy! And kinda ironic & sad at the same time...
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Post by Cesc Soler on Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:34 am

kas wrote:Yes, but this is the first summer where Barça have actually made an official bid, and more crucially, the first time Cesc has openly spoken of his desire to leave. This time I genuinely don't see him staying beyond next summer, unless Arsenal win something. Wenger can't convince him to stay forever.
As I'm sure you've seen written many times, no Arsenal fan expects Fabregas to stick with us forever and a transfer next summer would be a possibility if the terms were right. You're right in the regard that Wenger can't convince him to stay on year after year, I'm sure even he knows that.

kas wrote:Barça do have a "first option" of sorts - basically, one of the conditions when he was sold (or rather, when the compensation deal for him being stolen was being worked out) was that if any club makes an offer, Barça have first option to match that offer.
I never knew that, in a way it does make sense as those sorts of things are agreed all the time. However it is an irrelevence considering how unique the situation is, the player will only ever leave Arsenal for one club, and other rival clubs know this and won't waste their time chasing a player who would have no intention joining them.

kas wrote:Let me ask, what price is acceptable for a player you got on a free transfer, has spent 6 years with you, and wants to leave?
I don't see how we got him has much of an impact on his value, this was seven years ago now and we even reasoned with you at the time by giving you an international class player for next to nothing who was an everpresent in a team that was very successful. You agreed to that and although I can understand you bringing that up it doesn't bare much influence on me.

Yes he wants to leave, everyone knows that he had a meeting with Wenger expressing his desire for a transfer but I don't see how this reduces his value. If he went AWOL then understandably we would be in a difficult position but given the players character that isn't going to happen.

kas wrote:I believe the value of the remainder of his contract is around 35m euros (hence the initial bid). How much of a premium do you expect on top of that?

A transfer value shouldn't be worked out by the worth of his remaining contract (although according to FIFA's article 17 it does) but determined by is overall ability as a footballer and other important factors like age, potential for further improvements, injury record etc.

For me the absolute minimum would be £50m considering my criteria.

kas wrote:Keep in mind that this is not a 'normal' signing for Barça...there are mixed feelings about it in a purely sporting sense anyway, and even more doubts from a political aspect. You can expect 60m or 70m or whatever from Real Madrid or Inter, not Barcelona.
But isn't this one big show of power? Like I've seen you say in the past Laporta wanted to sign him to bring the curtain down on his successful spell as president and also to use it for his own gain in his future political career. With the fact Rosell will want to 'get one over' on his predecessor you can see that we want to take advantage as well.

kas wrote:The board is spending big money for one of our own youth players that was nicked away. You took advantage of the player's desire to leave when he was 16, we'll most certainly take advantage of his desire to leave now Ale
Fair enough, I can't wait for all this to begin again next year. Ale

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Post by Hem fet un.. on Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:57 am

I realise that Cesc is essential for Arsenal and more of a luxury for Barcelona.. Which is why I think it is a waste of time at the current moment to try to sign him.

However, what I dont understand is Arsenals insistence in keeping a player that now wants to leave. The club has repeatedly failed to deliver on its pormisises, not becoming more competitive but rather just having the usual 18/22 yr olds come in to replace "stars" leaving. There has been no real signings of top class players so that the club can compete for the league.

Cesc has been doing his best over the years to compensate for an ever changing midfield and now he wants to go back to his childhood club (that incidently showed him how to play the short passing game last season, destroying Arsenal). It is only natural that he wants to compete in a stronger squad, with players like Messi and Pique that he has known for over a decade.

Cesc seems to be ready to take a step up in his career (in Arsenal he is a sure starter whereas in Barcelona he would have to fight for a sport) and Arsenal needs to show some gratitude towards the player and let him go at a decent price if he wants to leave for real (and that is a big if).

All this talk about 50m plus is just nonesense..
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Post by fcb on Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:59 am

btw, Madrid would be desperate to sign him if he showed any inclination to go there.

Also, Rosell's recent comments don't mean Barça are giving up on him...it's just a way to appease Arsenal and "un-Laporta-ise" the transfer by taking it out of the public domain. But according to MD, he will travel to London on Tuesday to make a new bid.
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Post by S4P on Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:38 am

Barca is mes que cazar en vedado.
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Post by The Pröfessör on Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:28 pm

kas wrote:OMG look he signed a Barça shirt, how dare that fan show such disrespect by offering him a Barça shirt to autograph!!!


kas wrote:And in today's episode of "Disgraceful actions done to Cesc Fabregas by those rude people of Barcelona", we have him surrounded by a bunch of kids in a swimming pool, threatening to drown him if he doesn't sign.



Disgrace I tell you. Disgrace!

Are u sure u are OK Kas? I'm seriously concerned about your mental state reading the posts above. And please don't thank me for showing concern Ale


Cesc Soler wrote:You've been saying the "inevitably leaves next summer" line for the last four years, haven't you learn't your lesson yet?

ok

Exactly what I thought after reading his post.

Barcelona are not the 1st club where Cesc received his footballing education, so just because he spent 6 years at your club doesn't mean u own him forever. You paid measly fee to his 1st club to get him, we did the same to u to get him (plus even gave u a Dutch international who went on to serve u so well). Get over it, he's not yours.



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Post by fcb on Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:21 pm

The Professor wrote:
kas wrote:OMG look he signed a Barça shirt, how dare that fan show such disrespect by offering him a Barça shirt to autograph!!!

kas wrote:And in today's episode of "Disgraceful actions done to Cesc Fabregas by those rude people of Barcelona", we have him surrounded by a bunch of kids in a swimming pool, threatening to drown him if he doesn't sign.

Disgrace I tell you. Disgrace!

Are u sure u are OK Kas? I'm seriously concerned about your mental state reading the posts above. And please don't thank me for showing concern Ale

These two posts are because the only thing more repetitive than Barça players saying "we love Cesc, we hope he comes to Barça" is Arsenal fans complaining about it afterwards. Yes, we know you're not happy.

So I just felt I could save the time, energy, and post count of some of the Arsenal fans here by pre-empting their complaints ok


btw, today's update:

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=afp-fblengpresparsenalbarcelonafabregaspuyol

(some of those quotes sound made up though).




The Professor wrote:
Cesc Soler wrote:You've been saying the "inevitably leaves next summer" line for the last four years, haven't you learn't your lesson yet?

ok

Exactly what I thought after reading his post.

Barcelona are not the 1st club where Cesc received his footballing education, so just because he spent 6 years at your club doesn't mean u own him forever. You paid measly fee to his 1st club to get him, we did the same to u to get him (plus even gave u a Dutch international who went on to serve u so well). Get over it, he's not yours.


Yes, because signing him from a regional team at the age of 10 is the same as signing him from the academy of another big club by taking advantage of a loophole in the contract laws Rolling Eyes

And how do you know Barça paid a measly fee? Maybe it was no fee at all? Maybe it was a huge fee? (in relative terms).

How do you know Barça even "signed" him, and he didn't choose to leave the previous club so that he could progress in his career? Like he's doing now.


The Professor wrote:Get over it, he's not yours.

O RLY?

Well, someone better tell the player himself that then Shocked He sure sounds desperate to come back "home".

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Post by L r dd on Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:13 pm

PUYOL has told Arsenal to show Cesc Fabregas some respect and allow him to join Barcelona.

Fabregas, 23, has been the subject of intense interest from the Spanish champions, who had a £29million offer for him rejected last month.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger has ruled out the possibility of allowing his captain to leave the Emirates.

But Barca defender Puyol — who along with Fabregas was part of Spain's victorious World Cup squad — says the midfielder should be allowed to move back to the club where he started his career in order to win more silverware.

Arsenal have not won a trophy in five years and Puyol, 32, said: "I think Arsenal need to respect his class and show the same class by giving the guy who has given so much to them the move that he and his family want.

"He isn't just being deprived of moving to the best club in the world, more importantly, he is being deprived of coming home.

"He has tried everything to win trophies at Arsenal and when he sees the success so many of his Spanish team-mates are having at Barcelona, it's only natural that he should want to be a part of that."

Speaking to a Sunday newspaper, Puyol added: "Cesc is the future of Barcelona and Arsenal can't do anything to stop that.

"I have just spent six weeks with him and there is only one club he wants to be at."
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Post by COTR on Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:17 pm

Did you write that yourself Lrd ?

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Post by L r dd on Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:24 pm

Why on earth do you say that paddy?
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Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:29 pm

This is hilarious.

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Post by Hem fet un.. on Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:49 pm

Not saying this is my point of view but it is a view of many cules:


El enfado del Arsenal
Redacción - 18/07/2010 08:06
Fiel a su estilo futbolístico, el Arsenal afronta el acoso azulgrana para recuperar a Cesc como si se tratara de una eliminatoria europea: atacando más que defendiendo. Su estrategia es lícita pero empieza a resultar cansina y hasta repelente, sobre todo porque su supuesto cabreo suena más a simulación para sacar tajada del asunto que a un rebote verdadero.
Repasando la larga relación entre ambos clubs la conclusión es clara: quien debería estar subiéndose por las paredes es el Barca y no al revés. La entidad azulgrana, en los últimos diez años, ha sido esquilmada periódicamente mediante operaciones de compra-venta que pusieron en evidencia tanto las excelentes dotes comercial-camelísticas de los ingleses como las ansias derrochadoras de los mandatarios culés. El paquete (leáse con segundas, si se quiere) que formaron Overmars y Petit, sumado a la inversión por Henry (el único fichaje defendible) y a la adquisición del inclasificable Hleb arrojan como resultado un desembolso global por parte del club azulgrana que acaricia los 100 millones de euros.
Como lo contado hasta ahora podría ser apuntado en el debe del Barca (nadie les obligó a perpetrar semejantes atrocidades financieras), viene a cuento recordar que el Arsenal se llevó a Cesc Fàbregas del Barça cuando el centrocampista de Arenys tenía apenas 16 años, convenciendo al jugador y a su familia pero actuando en un principio de espaldas al club catalán, en una operación que viene a ser como la marca registrada de los londinenses: desplumar canteras ajenas para configurar sus plantillas futuras. No sólo se trata de Cesc, también Walcott fue fichado del Southampton siendo menor de edad, así como Bendtner, Eboué y un largo etcétera de promesas. De hecho, no contentos con 'cazar' a Cesc en 2003, el Arsenal reincidió con Fran Mérida, que llevaba en el Barça desde los 8 años, apropiándoselo en 2005.
Después de repasar esta serie de datos, resulta cuanto menos chocante que ahora que el Barca está interesado en recuperar a Cesc ofreciendo una cantidad de nuevo astronómica, en el Arsenal no sólo se nieguen a negociar sino que se hagan incluso los indignados. Si Wenger es tan señor como se dice de él, debería respetar la voluntad de un futbolista que le salió prácticamente gratis y que le ha dado un rendimiento espectacular. Pero no, en lugar de esculpir una escultura de enormes proporciones de, por ejemplo, Joan Gaspart y Joan Laporta en la puerta principal del Emirates Stadium, dándoles las gracias por ayudar a financiar gran parte del estadio, en el Arsenal van y se ofenden. Puro cinismo estratégico.



L r dd

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Re: Let's talk about Cesc baby...all summer long

Post by L r dd on Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:53 pm

I see mentions of Southampton and Puro, i can only presume two forum members have taken their battles into another place

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Re: Let's talk about Cesc baby...all summer long

Post by Hem fet un.. on Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:40 pm

L r dd wrote:I see mentions of Southampton and Puro, i can only presume two forum members have taken their battles into another place

hahahaha

No, basically it says that it is time for Arsenal to act a bit more realistically. It is a player that wants to leave, that was signed due to the fact that contracts cant be made at that age in Spain (which Arsenal then did for a second time with Merida, and seems to be doing as a general rule all over Europe). Also that Wenger and co should make a statue of Laporta and Gaspart due to the fact that Barcelona has poured close to a 100M into Arsenal for a large number of players of dubious quality. So now that Barcelona is ready to pay a good price for a player that was raised at the club and wants to come home, Arsenal needs to act with some realism and allow the player to go.
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Re: Let's talk about Cesc baby...all summer long

Post by TheCrazy58 on Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:55 pm

It works both ways. Barca need to get real too and see that putting the management, the coach and the team players to publicly tap up a player who has a 5 year contract with another club for months on end is not the best way to persuade Arsenal to 'act with realism'. All they are succeeding in doing is exhibiting their crassness for all the world to see and that they are no better than Madrid in this regard.

As for 100m euros we've got over the years from Barca, if Barca overpay for dubious quality, that's their problem not ours.
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Re: Let's talk about Cesc baby...all summer long

Post by fcb on Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:16 am

Sorry guys, can't find any Barça players' quotes today. Guardiola has a press conference this afternoon though, so maybe that will throw up something interesting.

Even Paul is confused:


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