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Re: AZZURI D'ITALIA

Post by bluenine on Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:19 pm

Did anyone notice the starting line up for Azzurrini defense which beat the German U21 yesterday:

Bardi
Donati, Caldirola, Bianchetti, Biraghi

The entire defense are from Inter academy!! Wink

Soon they will all go on to have great careers at Juve, Milan, etc Sad
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Post by Pirlo on Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:13 pm

v Brasile e Malta

Portieri: Gianluigi Buffon (Juventus), Morgan De Sanctis (Napoli), Federico Marchetti (Lazio), Salvatore Sirigu (Paris Saint Germain).

Difensori: Ignazio Abate (Milan), Luca Antonelli (Genoa), Davide Astori (Cagliari), Andrea Barzagli (Juventus), Leonardo Bonucci (Juventus), Giorgio Chiellini (Juventus), Mattia De Sciglio (Milan), Christian Maggio (Napoli), Andrea Ranocchia (Inter).

Centrocampisti: Antonio Candreva (Lazio), Alessio Cerci (Torino), Daniele De Rossi (Roma), Alessandro Diamanti (Bologna), Emanuele Giaccherini (Juventus), Claudio Marchisio (Juventus), Riccardo Montolivo (Milan), Andrea Pirlo (Juventus), Andrea Poli (Sampdoria).

Attaccanti: Mario Balotelli (Milan), Stephan El Shaarawy (Milan), Alberto Gilardino (Bologna), Sebastian Giovinco (Juventus), Pablo Daniel Osvaldo (Roma).
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Re: AZZURI D'ITALIA

Post by Murray on Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:33 pm

The Brazil - Italy match is live on ITV4 tonight at 7.30
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Post by Pirlo on Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:37 pm

Juve/Milan v Malta

Buffon - Abate, Bonucci, Barzagli, De Sciglio
Pirlo, Marchisio, Montolivo
Giaccherini
Balotelli, El Shaarawy
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Re: AZZURI D'ITALIA

Post by Romford Pele on Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:12 pm

What do you guys prefer, the 4-3-1-2 or the 4-3-3?
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Post by Romford Pele on Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:56 am

Another two goals for Balotelli last night, second was a great finish. Boss Ale
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Post by Kroos on Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:41 pm

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Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:56 pm

Kroos wrote:

you're about 13 years late with this one.

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Re: AZZURI D'ITALIA

Post by abundance on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:02 pm

lol

title fx guy was kinda not ready for giaccherini 19" goal
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Post by bluenine on Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:49 pm

abundance wrote:lol

title fx guy was kinda not ready for giaccherini 19" goal
Laughing
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Post by bluenine on Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:49 pm

As I was saying in the confed cup thread, I am sick and tired of this "no DM" tactics of Prandelli. Italy may have enough quality to make that work against weaker opposition, but this does not work against teams with much superior attacks. Teams like Spain and Brasil will thrash Italy everytime they play like this.

Its time Prandelli provides some midfield cover for his defense, at least as a plan B against top nations. De Rossi does a lot of the dirty work, but against top countries, he needs another beside him. I think Motta can be that player, he also has some playmaking skills to play a dual role. But as a pure DM, I am  not sure who... Perhaps Conti? Or Marrone? Italy have 1 year left to find a solution.

Also, there is no point in having players like Giovinco - he just does not have the body strength to do well at this level. For all his character flaws, I think Osvaldo is a must as a "vice-Balotelli". Infact, I think Balotelli-Osvaldo are a better combo for a 2 man attack than Balotelli-SES. There is no point taking poachers like Gila or Pazzini, the current Italy style does not suit them and they are not that great anyways.

I think the following are almost guaranteed a spot for the WC:

GK: Buffon, Sirigu + 1GK
Def: Chiellini, Barzagli, Abate, Maggio, Bonucci, +1CB, +1LB
Mid: Pirlo, Montolivo, Marchisio, De Rossi, Giacherrini, +1DM, +1CM, +1Winger or CM.
Str: Balotelli, SES, Osvaldo, +2Trequartista,

My recomendations for the vacant spots:
1GK: Marchetti seems to be Prandelli's pick and on form he is probably the best Italian GK, but IMO there is no point having a 30 year old as the 3rd choice goalie. Buffon is declining, and while Italy has Sirigu to take over, it will be good to start blooding a promising youngster as a backup. My choice would be the Azzurrini star Bardi. It will be awesome for him to get some exposure. But who gets selected is unlikely to have any impact on the World Cup, so this is purely about future planning. So my pick is Bardi.

1CB: If Prandelli does not plan to play 3 at back, then he only needs one additional CB (which is what I am assuming). There is not much to pick from Astori, Ranocchia, and Ogbonna. Prandelli should go with the one who does the best next season.  My pick at the mo: Astori

1LB: I am not yet convinced about Di Sciglio, I prefer Balzaretti. Not sure about Criscito's form. Santon or Antonelli, no thanks. So this one is between Di Sciglio, Balzaretti and Criscito. This is a key role, and has to be chosen carefully. I am leaning towards Criscito, coz Brasil is hot and old players will tire quicker - Criscito.

1DM: Prandelli will probably not pick any, but it is critical Italy have a plan B, or at least a back up for De Rossi. Marrone is an interesting talent who could be developed - if he scales up like is expected, he should be in the squad. Nocerino is another option, but I don't think he has enough quality. Conti is too old to get a Azzurri debut. If Marrone does not scale up, Prandelli should go for Motta. His experience could really be useful for the Azzurri.  My pick: Marrone.

1CM: I think this spot should go to Pirlo's heir - Verratti.

1CM or Winger: I don't think Italy should go for a winger. SES can play at the left wing, Giacherrini can play on the right. Its plan B anyways, so 1 option is good enough. For this 2nd CM, Prandelli will probably be looking at Aquilani, Candreva, Florenzi, Poli, & Nocerino or a winger like Cerci, Borini. Gabbiadini or Schelotto (LOL). My pick here is Florenzi. Aquilani, who probably will be picked, is too injury prone. Florenzi can also potentially play winger. If Florenzi does not develop as well as we expect, then I would pick Candreva.

2 Trequartista. This is a role where Italy just do not have enough quality. Options include Diamanti, Giovinco, Bonaventura, Insigne, and Sau. IMO Sau looks the most ready for this role at the mo - if his next season anything like the one he just had, he should be included. But if Insigne has a breakthrough season, I would pick him.  My picks: Insigne & Sau.

So if I were to pick a squad at the mo, it would be:

GK: Buffon, Sirigu, Bardi
Def: Chiellini, Barzagli, Abate, Maggio, Bonucci, Astori, Criscito
Mid: Pirlo, Montolivo, Marchisio, De Rossi, Giacherrini, Marrone, Verratti, Florenzi
Str: Balotelli, SES, Osvaldo, Sau, Insigne

If Prandelli plans to play 3 at back, then drop a trequatista (Sau) and include another CB (Ranocchia/Ogbonna). 

Of course, the above depends on the form and fitness next season, specially regarding the kids - their development over the next season has to be taken into account. I fear for Marrone. 

Just for fun, let me try and guess what Prandelli will do next summer:

GK: Buffon, Sirigu, Marchetti
Def: Chiellini, Barzagli, Abate, Maggio, Bonucci, Astori, De Sciglio
Mid: Pirlo, Montolivo, Marchisio, De Rossi, Giacherrini, Diamanti, Verratti, Nocerino
Str: Balotelli, SES, Osvaldo, Gilardino
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Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:57 am

Diamanti is to Prandelli what Camoranesi was to Lippi. Unfortunately, we have to accept that he will be in the World Cup squad.

Good to see Rossi is back. Hopefully Cassano gets called up soon, he has made a decent start at Parma.
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Post by Murray on Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:19 pm

I don't see why you object to Diamanti, it's Giaccherini they should get rid of.
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Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:22 pm

So looks like Italy will not be seeded. Prandelli should have put his strongest lineup out yesterday.

Also, Totti may come back for the WC.
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Re: AZZURI D'ITALIA

Post by Kroos on Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:32 am

whats your squad for the next friendlys?
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Post by Kroos on Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:59 am

found it


Goalkeepers:
Gianluigi Buffon Juventus
Federico Marchetti Lazio
Salvatore Sirigu Paris Saint-Germain
Defenders:
Ignazio Abate AC Milan
Andrea Barzagli Juventus
Leonardo Bonucci Juventus
Domenico Criscito Zenit St Petersburg
Christian Maggio Napoli
Angelo Ogbonna Juventus
Manuel Pasqual Fiorentina
Andrea Ranocchia Inter
Midfielders:
Antonio Candreva Lazio
Daniele De Rossi Roma
Alessandro Diamanti Bologna
Alessandro Florenzi Roma
Emanuele Giaccherini Sunderland
Claudio Marchisio Juventus
Riccardo Montolivo AC Milan
Thiago Motta Paris Saint-Germain
Marco Parolo Parma
Andrea Pirlo Juventus
Andrea Poli AC Milan
Forwards:
Mario Balotelli AC Milan
Alessio Cerci Torino
Alberto Gilardino Genoa
Lorenzo Insigne Napoli
Pablo Daniel Osvaldo Southampton
Giuseppe Rossi Fiorentina
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Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:06 am

PRandelli has said he is seriously considering Totti, but hinted that Cassano is unlikely.
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Post by bluenine on Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:16 pm

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:PRandelli has said he is seriously considering Totti, but hinted that Cassano is unlikely.
Luckily Rossi is in good form, he & Balotelli is a good combo. Osvaldo is finally showing some form for the Saints, which is good news too - was commentating his game against City today, that was an amazing goal.

You know I rate Totti, and he is in good form, but I think it would be a mistake to take such an old player to that heat of northern brazil. Super sub at best.
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Post by bluenine on Tue May 13, 2014 4:17 pm

bluenine wrote:
Just for fun, let me try and guess what Prandelli will do next summer:

GK: Buffon, Sirigu, Marchetti
Def: Chiellini, Barzagli, Abate, Maggio, Bonucci, Astori, De Sciglio
Mid: Pirlo, Montolivo, Marchisio, De Rossi, Giacherrini, Diamanti, Verratti, Nocerino
Str: Balotelli, SES, Osvaldo, Gilardino

Posting after a long time!

Italy are in trouble. Rossi is just coming off a long term injury, taking him is a risk. Cassano is always a risk. Insigne is unproven. Diamanti is done. One of them is needed - Italy cannot operate without an fantasista.

A few changes over the last 6 months, over the squad I posted a year ago. Giacherrini, Osvaldo, Nocerino & Diamanti will pay the price of moving out of Serie A. I expect the following squad:

GK: Buffon, Sirigu, Perin
Def: Chiellini, Barzagli, Abate, De Sciglio, Bonucci, Maggio, Astori, Criscito
Mid: Pirlo, Montolivo, Marchisio, De Rossi,  Motta, Verratti, Candreva
Str: Balotelli, Gilardino, Rossi, Immobile, Cerci

If Rossi ain't fit, then Cassano or Insigne may take his place.
Giacherrini may still take Candreva's or Cerci's place.
Destro, Osvaldo, Parolo, Aquilani, Poli or Ranocchia may also get a look in, but doubtful.
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Post by Fey on Tue May 13, 2014 5:28 pm

Looking at that squad it makes me even more curious why HHH never gets a call.

Infact, he himself thinks the same. Look what he was wearing today, with his own name on the back...if only he had a Dutch pasport Sad

Though, he still hopes Italy beats Holland in the final..something that wont happen to both countries.




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Post by Jaime on Tue May 13, 2014 6:37 pm

Portieri: Buffon (Juventus), Perin (Genoa), Sirigu (Paris Saint Germain), *Mirante (Parma);

Difensori: Abate (Milan), Barzagli (Juventus), Bonucci (Juventus), Chiellini (Juventus), Darmian (Torino), De Sciglio (Milan), Maggio (Napoli), Paletta (Parma), Pasqual (Fiorentina), Ranocchia (Inter);

Centrocampisti: Aquilani (Fiorentina), Candreva (Lazio), De Rossi (Roma), Marchisio (Juventus), Montolivo (Milan), Motta (Paris Saint Germain), Parolo (Parma), Pirlo (Juventus), Romulo (Verona), Verratti (Paris Saint Germain);

Attaccanti: Balotelli (Milan), Cassano (Parma), Cerci (Torino), Destro (Roma), Immobile (Torino), Insigne (Napoli), Rossi (Fiorentina);
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Post by Murray on Tue May 13, 2014 6:53 pm

The 7 to drop out should be

Mirante, Darmian, Ranocchia, Pasqual, Parolo, Romulo & 1 striker depending on whether Rossi is fit or not
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Post by bluenine on Tue May 13, 2014 7:59 pm

Pleasantly surprised by Prandelli's 31, specially about the dropping of Gilardino, Osvaldo, and Giaccherrini.

Assuming Rossi and Maggio are fit, I think (and hope) the 7 in blue will be dropped, plus one of Pasqual, Romulo or Candreva.

Romulo is a surprise inclusion, but if Prandelli has picked him in his 31, I have a feeling he will make the cut. Specially since Giacherrini has not made it. Excellent pick, IMO, he gives Prandelli another tactical option.


Jaime wrote:Portieri: Buffon (Juventus), Perin (Genoa), Sirigu (Paris Saint Germain), *Mirante (Parma);

Difensori: Abate (Milan), Barzagli (Juventus), Bonucci (Juventus), Chiellini (Juventus), Darmian (Torino), De Sciglio (Milan), Maggio (Napoli), Paletta (Parma), Pasqual (Fiorentina), Ranocchia (Inter);

Centrocampisti: Aquilani (Fiorentina), Candreva (Lazio), De Rossi (Roma), Marchisio (Juventus), Montolivo (Milan), Motta (Paris Saint Germain), Parolo (Parma), Pirlo (Juventus), Romulo (Verona), Verratti (Paris Saint Germain);

Attaccanti: Balotelli (Milan), Cassano (Parma), Cerci (Torino), Destro (Roma), Immobile (Torino), Insigne (Napoli), Rossi (Fiorentina);


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Post by bluenine on Tue May 13, 2014 8:34 pm

Probably because Prandelli doesn't watch football outside of the top 5 leagues. Nobody does. Razz

Jokes apart, I always rated him as a youngster many years back, had followed his youth career with great interest. Prandelli should have tried him out, but this season Cerci & Immobile have had great seasons. Immobile is younger, and he is the top scorer in Serie A this season. Cerci gives a couple of tactical options (wide and support) as well as great combo with Immobile. Perhaps Pelle could have snucked in above Destro, but I doubt Destro will make the cut in any case.

I hear Pelle is more of a center forward nowadays? He used to be a quality wide forward in his youth days. Must admit, I haven't seen Pelle play at Feyenoord.

Fey wrote:Looking at that squad it makes me even more curious why HHH never gets a call.

Infact, he himself thinks the same. Look what he was wearing today, with his own name on the back...if only he had a Dutch pasport Sad

Though, he still hopes Italy beats Holland in the final..something that wont happen to both countries.

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Post by Fey on Tue May 13, 2014 9:44 pm

How come Prandelli selected so many Serie A players then?  Surprised

Seriously though, not being biased or anything, but he is as good, if not better then Toni was a couple of years ago, hence I think it's shortsighted not to take him. There is a reason Farca wants him for their Plan-B. Excellent header, can hold the ball well, good at corners, great right foot.

I can maybe understand if Italy had a gazillion good strikers at their disposal, but they dont have that either anymore, and he didnt called him a single time. Tactically it makes no sense considering Italy doesnt have such a player in their squad.

Besides...look how fucking hot he is!
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Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Wed May 14, 2014 2:16 pm

bluenine wrote:Pleasantly surprised by Prandelli's 31, specially about the dropping of Gilardino, Osvaldo, and Giaccherrini.

Assuming Rossi and Maggio are fit, I think (and hope) the 7 in blue will be dropped, plus one of Pasqual, Romulo or Candreva.

Romulo is a surprise inclusion, but if Prandelli has picked him in his 31, I have a feeling he will make the cut. Specially since Giacherrini has not made it. Excellent pick, IMO, he gives Prandelli another tactical option.


Jaime wrote:Portieri: Buffon (Juventus), Perin (Genoa), Sirigu (Paris Saint Germain), *Mirante (Parma);

Difensori: Abate (Milan), Barzagli (Juventus), Bonucci (Juventus), Chiellini (Juventus), Darmian (Torino), De Sciglio (Milan), Maggio (Napoli), Paletta (Parma), Pasqual (Fiorentina), Ranocchia (Inter);

Centrocampisti: Aquilani (Fiorentina), Candreva (Lazio), De Rossi (Roma), Marchisio (Juventus), Montolivo (Milan), Motta (Paris Saint Germain), Parolo (Parma), Pirlo (Juventus), Romulo (Verona), Verratti (Paris Saint Germain);

Attaccanti: Balotelli (Milan), Cassano (Parma), Cerci (Torino), Destro (Roma), Immobile (Torino), Insigne (Napoli), Rossi (Fiorentina);

I hope Cassano does make it. He is still the most talented forward that Italy has. I think it will be between Insigne and Cassano.

Have to say, I am very happy with this squad. Was expecting Prandelli to call his favourites like Gilardino, Osvaldo and Giaccherini, but they are no where to be seen.  Smile 

Feel a bit sorry for Criscito, but i can't say if he's been playing well or not. I did see him in the Spain game where he looked very suspect defensively. Pasqual had a great season - he is an able replacement.
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Post by bluenine on Wed May 14, 2014 7:11 pm

Fey wrote:How come Prandelli selected so many Serie A players then?  Surprised

Seriously though, not being biased or anything, but he is as good, if not better then Toni was a couple of years ago, hence I think it's shortsighted not to take him. There is a reason Farca wants him for their Plan-B. Excellent header, can hold the ball well, good at corners, great right foot.

I can maybe understand if Italy had a gazillion good strikers at their disposal, but they dont have that either anymore, and he didnt called him a single time. Tactically it makes no sense considering Italy doesnt have such a player in their squad.

Besides...look how fucking hot he is!

I do agree that Prandelli should have tried him out. But as things stand, between Immobile and Pelle, even I would go for the Serie A top scorer. Immobile scored more goals than the likes of Tevez, Balotelli, Higuain, Palacio, Klose, Rossi, Llorente, etc. No offense, but Eredivisie's 2nd highest scorer is not even close to the same level of achievement - looking at the scorers table, Pelle finished behind a guy called Alfreğ Finnbogason, and others in the top 5 include Aron Jóhannsson, Dušan Tadić, Luc Castaignos, and England's Michael Higdon. I am quite sure Higdon was not considered for England either, most people here probably don't even know who he is.

Prandelli did try out quite a few strikers, and he should have given Pelle a call up or two. Maybe after the world cup, if he continues his form next season.
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Post by Fey on Wed May 14, 2014 8:02 pm

Remy scored more then RVP, doesnt mean he is better. The only reason, HHH became 2nd is because A) he hardly takes the penalties and B) he has like 10 matches less because he elbowed a guy, kicked a camera and called a journalist a c**t with an ajaxface.

He is by far the best player in the league. And this his second season where he is awesome already.

The Eredivisie might be shite in your eyes, but first of all the names you mention only show that the Serie A and the Eredivisie are closer to eachother then the Serie A is to the true top. Believe me cause unlike a lot of people, I watch both leagues. And dont forget that the top 6 in England has 2-ex Eredivisie topscorers. 

And Pelle scores the better goals Very Happy






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Post by Kimbo on Wed May 14, 2014 8:28 pm

Remy probably is better than RVP these days, RVP is on the way down.
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Post by bluenine on Thu May 15, 2014 9:27 am

I don't watch Eredivisie, so will take your word for it mate. But you may have mentioned the reason why Prandelli did not pick Pelle for the friendlies (in bold below). Prandelli has a strict code of ethics, and has dropped players like Balotelli, De Rossi, etc when they misbehaved in club games...

Serie A may not be among the top 3 leagues anymore, but it is still quite strong as evidenced by the World Cup 2014 call-ups:

1. Premier League - 132
2. Serie A - 99
3. Bundesliga - 95
4. La Liga - 74
5. Lique 1 - 66

Eredivisie has 27.

Fey wrote:Remy scored more then RVP, doesnt mean he is better. The only reason, HHH became 2nd is because A) he hardly takes the penalties and B) he has like 10 matches less because he elbowed a guy, kicked a camera and called a journalist a c**t with an ajaxface.

He is by far the best player in the league. And this his second season where he is awesome already.

The Eredivisie might be shite in your eyes, but first of all the names you mention only show that the Serie A and the Eredivisie are closer to eachother then the Serie A is to the true top. Believe me cause unlike a lot of people, I watch both leagues. And dont forget that the top 6 in England has 2-ex Eredivisie topscorers. 

And Pelle scores the better goals Very Happy

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