the FINAL everybody in Germany has been dreaming of

is now VERY LIKELY to happen




I predicted that IF Germany beat Argentina in the QF

they would end up winning the Cup outright

irrespective of whether they had to play against Brazil or Holland in the final or had to play Spain in the Semis (or not)



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from a German perspective this is a DREAM FINAL


we still want REVENGE for 1988 when Holland beat us in the Final of the European Cup in MUNICH

on OUR TURF



the Dutch still want REVENGE for 1974

when the MANNSCHAFT beat them in the Final of the World Cup, having previously OUTPLAYED them as well



to BUNDESLIGA fans this is a DREAM COME TRUE as well

ALL 24 MANNSCHAFT players earn their money in the BUNDESLIGA

so do the TWO KEY Oranje players: von Bommel and von Robben

von der Vaart, von Matthijsen, von Jong and many others also have Bundesliga experience

ditto von Marwijk



I said it before

Robben was 100% unimpressed by Oranje's victory against Brazil, just saying

" we did not come to South Africa to beat Brazil, we came here to become World Champions"



and yes, he said it in GERMAN as well

the international lingua FRANCA or rather lingua GERMANICA



when von Bommel was recently asked by German TV what he made of GERMAN FLAIR compared to the more defensive and laboured performances of Oranje he just said that the football they currently play was the football with which Germany had won all their tites in the past

and then he SMILED



Germany A vs Germany B

may the BETTER Germany win

Spain-Uruguay it is then

kas is going to be FURIOUS when he sees this

Emile Glenskey wrote:kas is going to be FURIOUS when he sees this

debby, why on earth do you think I am JINXING games ?

for instance, I said from a VERY early stage that THIS Oranje looked like REAL CHAMPIONSHIP CONTENDERS

as for the Argentina vs Germany game, I predicted it was a 50:50 game

that would be decided in favour of the team that SCORED FIRST

THEN

the team chasing the game would get SLICED open by the team in the lead

ie: expect a highscoring game



Maradona now said in the PC that their entire game plan was OBSOLETE after the quick Müller goal

had Argentina scored FIRST, it would have been a VERY different game

but what do we care, right ?

I'm not jinxing anybody

as a GERMAN you CANNOT watch the Uruguay vs Holland and Germany vs Spain matches WITHOUT having Germany vs Holland in the back of your mind though

and I guess it's similar with our Dutch friends

Holland RELY on Bommel/Jong/Robben

our boys know INSIDE OUT how the three operate and think

if ANYBODY can neutralise Robben, it's his Bayern team-mates

the same goes the other way round

Klose, Müller and Co have NO secrets when it comes to Robben and Co

still

THIS is THE European GRUDGE MATCH

it's the DERBY of Europe

a bit like Argentina vs Brazil

Both need to win their semi's first Otto.

But it would indeed be a good final, Germany play the better football and would deserve it more. But Holland seem to be the old Germany.

Like you say for Germany its a test of defeating their old selves. For Holland it would be a test to show Dutch people would make even better Germans then real Germans themselves, and thus make the real Germans obsolete and ready for destruction IF they win that is.

Congrats Spain

with you title you won on july 11 by beating Uruguay with 1-0 ... !

Ä wrote:


we still want REVENGE for 1988 when Holland beat us in the Final of the European Cup in MUNICH

BTW...

@Vladimir Ottov,

Since when are you Russian?

Ricardo Wetzel wrote:

Ä wrote:


we still want REVENGE for 1988 when Holland beat us in the Final of the European Cup in MUNICH

BTW...

@Vladimir Ottov,

Since when are you Russian?

Ottovsky, the expert.

Ä wrote:
as a GERMAN you CANNOT watch the Uruguay vs Holland and Germany vs Spain matches WITHOUT having Germany vs Holland in the back of your mind though

and I guess it's similar with our Dutch friends

Yup, once again we have a wall to break down in Urugay and Germany get to play in space *again*....yet the possibility of another ultimate übermatch : Holland A vs Holland B is *the* talk of the day

Ricardo Wetzel wrote:

Ä wrote:


we still want REVENGE for 1988 when Holland beat us in the Final of the European Cup in MUNICH

BTW...

@Vladimir Ottov,

Since when are you Russian?

@ricky

it's the PROVERBIAL "us"

"technically" Oranje beat us in Hamburg

or rather

van Basten beat us with his LEGENDARY SCHWALBE in the Semi in the Volksparkstadion

but of course you can imagine that Oranje beating the Soviet Union in Munich was a SECOND stab into our Teutonic hearts

or do you really think that there was a SINGLE German left in the Vaterland who supported Guillit and Schwalbenkönig vBasten in Munich ?! :scartch:

EVERYBODY wanted the Soviet Union to win

it was a PURE battle of GOOD against EVIL

and EVIL prevailed

+

bear in mind that the German LEFTIES had strong SYMPATHIES with the Soviet Union in those days

the leading foreign politicians were often "Ostpolitiker"

also take a look at the DATE

1988

that is ONE year before reunification but at the HEIGHT of "Glasnost" and "Perestoika"

the biggest politcial superstar in them days was NOT German, nor American

it was GORBI

in Germany , you had a VERITABLE "GORBIMANIA"



since Germany was still divided into a free, capitalist west and a socialist , "de facto occupied" east, Germans were HUGELY interested in what Gorbi was doing and changing

remember, Grobi supported German reunification and Thatcher and Mitterand did NOT

add all of this together

the TREACHEROUS Dutch SCHWALBE leading to a German exit on home-ground + Gorbi being the DARLING of the Vaterland at the time

and you will understand why the Munich Final felt like a battle of

Good vs Evil



in 1988 EVIL won

in 2010

GOOD will PREVAIL

it's a PROMISE

a PROMISE

LOL, brazilian media is absolutely in love with this Germany team. You have no idea

Holland are Weltmeister der Herzen though!

Juligen wrote:LOL, brazilian media is absolutely in love with this Germany team. You have no idea

why don't we make a THREE-way swap, juli ?!

Brazil can now hire Löw as their next manager

Argentina can take Dunga

and

Germany will get Maradona

Ä wrote:

Juligen wrote:LOL, brazilian media is absolutely in love with this Germany team. You have no idea

why don't we make a THREE-way swap, juli ?!

Brazil can now hire Löw as their next manager

Argentina can take Dunga

and

Germany will get Maradona

I would get Low in a HEART BEAT. Are you serious???????? look what his done to you.

Instead of convincing old players to not reitre he, gaspp, decided to invest in young players. Why OH why, we didnt do this? WTF Kleberson, Julio Baptista or Grafiite did in thsi WC? Otto stop being so ungratefull, Low is awesome for your team. You should be luck.



As I said, brazilian media has fallen in love. Germany is the guardian of beautiful football in this World cup Playing elegant, beautiful and sexy football. Trashing opponents and marching to the great final.

Who in name of God had imagined that

Fey wrote:Holland are Weltmeister der Herzen though!

fey

you REALLY have a KRAUT as a Vater ?!



that would be awesome



now we know where you get your humour from

Juligen wrote: Otto stop being so ungratefull, Low is awesome for your team. You should be luck.

juli , there is A LOT MORE to Löw than meets your Brazilian eye

he is NOT a good person AT ALL

I don't even think he is a GOOD manager AT ALL

but obviously, in sport the only thing that counts is/are results

and at the moment we are CRUISING

and CRUISING in STYLE for that

it's NOT a good time to be clearly-anti-Löw

business is NOT BOOMING



nowadays, I have to survive on CRUMBS



Löw is honest enough to admit that the football he always wanted to play, he now CAN play, because of the MANY highly skilled , flair players at his disposal

anyway

I will be a good LOSER , if Germany win the TITLE

and will put up the LOVELIEST Löw avatar known to mankind

Ä wrote:

Fey wrote:Holland are Weltmeister der Herzen though!

fey

you REALLY have a KRAUT as a Vater ?!



that would be awesome



now we know where you get your humour from

He lives there, so in my eyes he is a kraut. Besides he wanks more over Germany then you do. But me and my grandparents both shake our heads for this behaviour.

We both like attacking football though, but he has NO humour at all.

Most likely, I'am adopted.

For all the bloody foreigners who might not understand the importance of a possible Germany-Holland match-up in the final :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_and_Netherlands_football_rivalry

Wenger's team of the tournament contains 4 Germans, well, 3 Germans and Ozil, and he has J-Lo as his coach of the tournament.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/world-cup/arsene-wenger/article/811/

DOMINATION

Swegen wrote:Wenger's team of the tournament contains 4 Germans, well, 3 Germans and Ozil, and he has J-Lo as his coach of the tournament.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/world-cup/arsene-wenger/article/811/

DOMINATION

No Stekelenburg and no Van Bommel : best goalkeeper and best midfielder of the tournament so far

He does include Sneijder however, just because Midget can't fuck up *all* balls...

No wonder Arsenal never win anything

ALL-TIME Oranje LEGEND, Makaay

about Oranje, die Mannschaft , von Marwijk and von Schweinsteiger

http://www.welt.de/sport/wm2010/article8317541/Zeit-fuer-ein-Finale-Holland-gegen-Deutschland.html

Lol...

Dutch website Geenstijl asked the Dutch *to fuck up the Bild Zeitung poll* about who is going to win the World Cup.....

So far the results are....

Holland 62%
Germany 34%
Spain 3%
Uruguay 1%




written in Van Gaal-esque German....

Toll. Wir ficken Poll

Landgenossen! Allemaal even mithilfen. Wir gehen even die nachbarn ficken. Also nicht die nachbarn, aber die poll von die nachbarn. Bild Zeitung, die Toten Baum von wakker Mofrika, hatt ein supergeiles polletje gemacht. Uber die WM foesball. Sie kunnen abstimmen wie von die vier halbfinalspieler de Weltmeister wird. Jetzt stehen die schwule wichsbuben von Joachim Low mit ein dicke 86 prozent fett oben. Holland auf die zweite plek, und Spanien und Oehoeroegay dritte und vierte. Und das muss SOFORT veranderen. Gewoon, omdas das kann. Für die lol, und um die Eisbeinfressers einen lur zu drehen. Also das Bindendes AbstimBeratung ist HOLLAND. Ihr könnt ABSTIMMEN. (Nach unten scrollen bitte.) Fein Danke und Tschüss!

http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2010/07/toll_wir_ficken_ein_poll.html

Ricardo Wetzel wrote:

Toll. Wir ficken Poll

Fick ja !

Damn, them Germans are already tad arrogant...

Bild headline "Sonntag sehen Wir uns"

"Wir haben wider ein Müller"


Eurovision Song contast heroin Lena "we are going to trash the Dutchies...."

Hello guys you still have to play a semifinals....

Ricardo Wetzel wrote:Damn, them Germans are already tad arrogant...

Bild headline "Sonntag sehen Wir uns"

"Wir haben wider ein Müller"


Eurovision Song contast heroin Lena "we are going to trash the Dutchies...."

Hello guys you still have to play a semifinals....

Only against the European champions. German humility.

Journo: Do you have contact with your german team mates from Bayern?
Robben: Yes, we write all the time. I love Bayern, they are a big club and I am glad to play for them.
Journo: Do you want to play against Germany on Sunday?
Robben: Only if we win. Otherwise I might not go back to Munich after the WC (grin)

DD wrote:

Ricardo Wetzel wrote:Damn, them Germans are already tad arrogant...

Bild headline "Sonntag sehen Wir uns"

"Wir haben wider ein Müller"


Eurovision Song contast heroin Lena "we are going to trash the Dutchies...."

Hello guys you still have to play a semifinals....

Only against the European champions. German humility.

That's what I have been saying all along, people only notice English hype cause they speak English, the Nazi like obsession from the Germans even before this WC ( Banners saying 1954,1974, 1990, 2010 next to the pitch) say's a lot.

post-74

THIS World Cup final will be the FIRST TIME ever

that a VAST MAJORITY of NEUTRAL fans

want ANYBODY but Holland to win

based purely on FLAIR and STYLE

(or lack thereof)

Ä wrote:post-74

THIS World Cup final will be the FIRST TIME ever

that a VAST MAJORITY of NEUTRAL fans

want ANYBODY but Holland to win

based purely on FLAIR and STYLE

(or lack thereof)

nah most of the neutrals still support the humble orange brigade instead of the tad arrogant germans.