Axeslammer wrote:Since 1888 wrote:WTF Axe and Fey, we are in the fucking finals and you still are in the moaning mode.
You guys are unbelievable.
I repeat, we are in the final of the world cup. Best two of the whole world.
The problem is : I don't give a shit !
I'm not happy, proud or excited...I'm just disappointed and a bit sad. We played *utter* crap yesterday, it was unwatchable at times !
It was so incredibly bad that I'm starting to understand how it must feel to be a Peruvian : those epic fail monkeys (strike 1) feel like this *all* the time (except of course they *don't* win matches playing like crap)

I've never been so proud of Holland as I was after the 2-3
defeat against the Czechs : best football I ever saw and we were part of it !
Now we just let Midget fluke us to the final.....this isn't football, it's.....it's......well I don't know *what* it is,
but it's probably German or [b]Italian[/b]......AND I DON'T WANT IT !
If this is the prize we have to pay then it's not worth it

.....the only problem is that we might face the Germans in the final
In that case I won't care about joga bonita or whatever, but the only way the Germans will win a WC at our expense again will be OVER OUR DEAD BODIES !!!
If Spain reach the final : congrats boys, you may win it for all I care

You've got serious psychological problems with your constant moanining, stereotyping and patronising 'total football' garbage.
Stop living in a fantasy world of football that doesn't exist, Italia and Germania do nothing different that any other country hasn't done in football. In fact, you yourself have just admitted that you'd take ANY sort of victory over Germany, so that's how strong your so called 'principles' are, i.e they aren't universal at all but subject to the whims and contexts of your argument.
There's Italian players and teams who play good football, there's Italian teams and players who play rubbish, same as in every country in the world, each have good and bad sides. For every Mourinho and Inter in Italy, there was a Chievo, a Fiorentina, a Roma, a Milan, a Spalletti, a Prandelli, a Zeman, and an Ancelotti.
I enjoy good football and pure technical players as much as anyone, but every team has its unsavoury players and its moments when it sneaks and cheats and benefits from luck,
The worst displays of cheating and gamesmanship at the last two world cups have both come from Holland. v Portugal in 2006 and anything from Robben and van Bommel in this world cup. In fact your Dutch side is full of pretty unsavoury 'footballers' (Heitinga, Mathijsen, van Bronckhorst, van Bommel, de Jong, Robben, Sneijder) that i suppose wouldn't look out of place in a typical Italian team would they?
You've reached a World Cup final, enjoy it for goodness sake, it's only happened twice in my lifetime, or what's the point of playing a sport to win?