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    Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by Luis on Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:45 pm

    Biggrin cheers

    Obviously it may be a little early with around 2 and a half weeks to go yet but what are your gut feelings on who will win the league this season?

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by Indie on Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:53 pm

    Chelsea is my hesitant tip, but only really if we get a striker and midfielder in.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by fcb on Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:52 pm

    Gut feeling is Arsenal.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by Romford Pele on Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:55 pm

    fcb wrote:Gut feeling is Arsenal.


    You must have an upset stomach.


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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by Chris 23* on Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:55 pm

    Romford Pele wrote:
    fcb wrote:Gut feeling is Arsenal.


    Yu must have an upset stomach.


    Laughing

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by Sheffield gunner on Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:59 pm

    I'm almost certain it will be Chelsea or Man Utd as usual. No one else is strong enough in terms of personnel aside from Man City, but I can't see them functioning as a team.

    As it stands Arsenal are too weak, although a few good signings could change that. You can't win the league if your goalkeeping options are Almunia or Fabianski, you only have three central defenders in the squad, your captain wants to leave, and you have an injury prone squad. We need to address the first two areas, and hope for good fortune with the others to have any chance whatsoever.

    It's a boring prediction, but I think Chelsea look best placed to retain the title.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by Romford Pele on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:01 pm

    Man United for me.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by L r dd on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:05 pm

    Romford Pele wrote:
    fcb wrote:Gut feeling is Arsenal.


    You must have an upset stomach.


    lol! Biggrin

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by L r dd on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:07 pm

    I have it as a close race between United and Spurs. You never know what will happen with City....i guess we'll see.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by Romford Pele on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:10 pm

    I presume you think Chelsea will be out because their team is old?

    I can also assure you Spurs will not be challenging for the title as long as they have the likes of Defoe, Dawson, Jenas, Assou-Ekkotto there etc.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by debaser on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:15 pm

    I can see Chelsea being able to repeat their performance of last season and don't think anyone else has improved enough on paper to think they'll catch them.

    Man Utd don't look to have done anything to reduce reliance on Rooney.

    Arsenal look the same as they have the last few years - some very talented players, but weak in certain areas and vulnerable to injuries to Fabregas and RVP.

    Liverpool - too much to expect them to go from 7th one year to champions the next. Some positive signs with new manager, signing Cole, clearing out some of the dross - but I think it will be one of those 'transitional seasons', i.e. inconsistent.

    Man City - if it clicks straight off, they have the players to challenge. But I'll be surprised if it does.

    Spurs - best I can see is them staying in top 4. And with added pressure of being in CL that will be difficult enough.

    Villa - dream on Sad

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by Indie on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:17 pm

    Spurs, really???

    I imagine if Joe Hart went to Arsenal they might challenge.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by Jaime on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:22 pm

    I voted for Liverpool. I mean for once it is not 'their year' and maybe with the weight of expectation lifted a bit (obviously they still have high expectations) maybe they can fly under the radar and surprise some people. Plus without the CL they can really focus on the league. If they keep Torres and he stays fit then I don't see why they can't be right up there.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by Romford Pele on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:24 pm

    Decent chance I guess. Still need to strengthen, same can be said of everyone though.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by debaser on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:25 pm

    Jaime wrote:I voted for Liverpool. I mean for once it is not 'their year' and maybe with the weight of expectation lifted a bit (obviously they still have high expectations) maybe they can fly under the radar and surprise some people. Plus without the CL they can really focus on the league. If they keep Torres and he stays fit then I don't see why they can't be right up there.


    Pretty big IF there!

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by L r dd on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:27 pm

    Romford Pele wrote:I presume you think Chelsea will be out because their team is old?

    I can also assure you Spurs will not be challenging for the title as long as they have the likes of Defoe, Dawson, Jenas, Assou-Ekkotto there etc.


    If they get a top striker they have all positions covered with top quality. Jenas never plays. The other 3 are alright.

    Chelsea i just see their two main players as past their best now. Drogba had his mega season and Lampard has had his day. Malouda & Anelka are not good enough to fully replicate that level of production.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by COTR on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:29 pm

    Who knows at the minute. The August transfer market will be crucial.

    Chelsea already look stale and have offloaded their midfield depth

    United's team is actually pretty funny these days and Fergie has spent all his money on random players. Can he really get through another year with such a shit and ageing midfield ? Last year was bad enough for him and it will surely only get worse

    Spurs haven't added to their squad at all yet

    City may well be threat, not through being a good team but purely because everyone else is coming back to them

    Arsenal will be better and may have a chance if Wenger recognises the need for a centre midfielder in the team. But he won't buy one so it's hard to see them being any different from usual

    Who the fuck knows what the Liverpool squad will be like at the end of August

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by L r dd on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:33 pm

    COTR wrote:

    United's team is actually pretty funny these days and Fergie has spent all his money on random players. Can he really get through another year with such a shit and ageing midfield ? Last year was bad enough for him and it will surely only get worse



    Our team is underated in all positions. Park, Fletcher, Carrick are all decent ages. Anderson is still around, Nani & Valencia are top players. Hargreaves might return one day. Then the old two can do a game a week Biggrin The man in my avatar is insurance for Rooney debaser. The good news is Rafael has come along as has Fabio this is their season to make big impacts.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by COTR on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:41 pm

    L r dd wrote:
    COTR wrote:

    United's team is actually pretty funny these days and Fergie has spent all his money on random players. Can he really get through another year with such a shit and ageing midfield ? Last year was bad enough for him and it will surely only get worse



    Our team is underated in all positions. Park, Fletcher, Carrick are all decent ages. Anderson is still around, Very Happy Nani & Valencia are top players. Hargreaves might return one day. Then the old two can do a game a week The man in my avatar is insurance for Rooney debaser. The good news is Rafael has come along as has Fabio this is their season to make big impacts.


    Is this supposed to disprove anything Lrd ?

    Seriously WTF happens if Rooney gets injured ? You can't keep getting lucky with him.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by debaser on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:47 pm

    L r dd wrote:
    Romford Pele wrote:I presume you think Chelsea will be out because their team is old?

    I can also assure you Spurs will not be challenging for the title as long as they have the likes of Defoe, Dawson, Jenas, Assou-Ekkotto there etc.


    If they get a top striker they have all positions covered with top quality. Jenas never plays. The other 3 are alright.

    Chelsea i just see their two main players as past their best now. Drogba had his mega season and Lampard has had his day. Malouda & Anelka are not good enough to fully replicate that level of production.


    Players don't decline that quickly. They may be starting the decline, but both Lampard and Drogba are still very capable of getting around 20 goals again this season, assuming they stay fit.

    They should have Essien coming back, who was missing for much of last time and he's a big player for them. Also think Zhirkov will be more of an important player for them this time round. If they add in another midfield signing with Benyanoon and they should have covered for the loss of Deco, Ballack, J.Cole.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by L r dd on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:50 pm

    debaser wrote:
    L r dd wrote:
    Romford Pele wrote:I presume you think Chelsea will be out because their team is old?

    I can also assure you Spurs will not be challenging for the title as long as they have the likes of Defoe, Dawson, Jenas, Assou-Ekkotto there etc.


    If they get a top striker they have all positions covered with top quality. Jenas never plays. The other 3 are alright.

    Chelsea i just see their two main players as past their best now. Drogba had his mega season and Lampard has had his day. Malouda & Anelka are not good enough to fully replicate that level of production.


    Players don't decline that quickly. They may be starting the decline, but both Lampard and Drogba are still very capable of getting around 20 goals again this season, assuming they stay fit.

    They should have Essien coming back, who was missing for much of last time and he's a big player for them. Also think Zhirkov will be more of an important player for them this time round. If they add in another midfield signing with Benyanoon and they should have covered for the loss of Deco, Ballack, J.Cole.


    Lampard people forget was really poor last season until the last few months. He was already declining and a few hammerings boosted his tally but he had a relative poor season for most of it. Now i think he will slightly falter for longer this time. Drogba not only is getting on he had a season like last year before then had 2-3 iffy ones. Now he is 32 and slightly injury prone?

    Zhirkov was an impressive LB but he's hardly gonna get in ahead of Cole and he isnt that great of an LM. Losing Ballack and Deco means nothing really.

    @ COTR they are decent players. Hernandes will ease the workload of Rooney. If he gets injured so be it i see no reason why it'd make that much of a difference with Evra, Rafael, Valencia, Nani & Hernandez. It is too much attacking talent. Lets not forget Obertan who is pretty awesome also..then Ozil is likely to join so i hear


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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by fcb on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:51 pm

    Well I'll admit picking Arsenal is basically a "least worst option" case at this point. I'm assuming they're definitely going to get a keeper and an experienced CB for depth. Attack is fine...midfield is an unknown to be honest, I think they need an experienced CM alongside Song and Fabregas (if he stays). Otherwise they went pretty close last year so aren't too off the pace.

    Chelsea's squad seems to have lost something, seems very functional and athletic, don't know if that makes sense. I know it's always been that way more or less, but still, gut feeling as I said. And unlike Arsenal, I don't know which signings are on the cards for them.

    Man. Utd's squad gets worse and worse. Winning mentality can only get you so far. Defense has been their backbone but with Rafael still learning at RB (and lots of rotation there), VDS getting older, and Ferdinand's career being over (which means Evans or Smalling and their inevitable mistakes will partner Vidic) it's not as strong as in past seasons.

    City will create some havoc among the big boys but mentally their target is "top 4". Unless Mancini has changed it from the inside, they still need a season or two to challenge for the title IMO. Right now they have a great squad (too great, if there's such a thing) but no team spirit, no tactics, no formation. All that takes time to build.

    Liverpool aren't a good enough squad yet to win, and Hodgson isn't a league title winning manager. If they're up there I reckon it'll be one of those "everyone is dropping points" seasons.

    Aston Villa will do their usual of being near the top but never getting past the Europa League glass ceiling.

    Spurs will struggle with handling both Europe (CL or EL, wherever they end up) and the league as well. They have serious problems in defense right now.


    btw, the points above are in my predicted order at this point of the summer. ie.

    1. Arsenal
    2. Chelsea
    3. Man. Utd.
    4. Man. City
    5. Liverpool
    6. Aston Villa
    7. Spurs
    8. Birmingham
    9. Everton
    10. Bolton
    11. Sunderland
    12. West Ham
    13. Blackburn
    14. Newcastle
    15. Fulham
    16. Wigan
    17. West Brom
    18. Stoke
    19. Wolves
    20. Blackpool

    Ale


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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by Luis on Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:51 pm

    Wow, no one has voted for City and 4 people reckon we can do it!

    I'll be over the moon with 4th, never mind a title challenge!

    I voted Chelsea, only because I don't think much has changed from last season yet. United are still relying on Rooney, Arsenal are going to be even worse if they lose Cesc or the saga has an effect on the team. City I think can challenge but will fall short.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by Romford Pele on Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:16 pm

    Spurs won't be there. As Kas pointed out, they have always had a big squad but it remains to be seen how they adapt to playing three games a week, and where the pressure is huge now they are expected to win more a less every week.

    Add to that the fact they haven't won away to the Big four in donkey's years, and you have your answer.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by L r dd on Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:19 pm

    Romford Pele wrote:Spurs won't be there. As Kas pointed out, they have always had a big squad but it remains to be seen how they adapt to playing three games a week, and where the pressure is huge now they are expected to win more a less every week.

    Add to that the fact they haven't won away to the Big four in donkey's years, and you have your answer.


    So what didn't people keep saying they havent beaten arsenal in 10 years last time. They beat 3 of the big 4 at home and it's just breaking the mental blocks bit by bit. Now they are a top 4 side so that will maybe help them against lower teams.

    They have a good manager a good squad a very good first 11 and some WC players...a top striker and no reason why not IMO. CL is only 8-10 games presuming they don't make SF it's not that big a deal especially when you consider they had 4 cup replays last season.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by Sheffield gunner on Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:25 pm

    Have Spurs had a good season when they've fought on numerous (serious) fronts? It can't be a coincidence that by far their best league efforts have come when they've focused almost exclusively on the league. They may have had quite a few cup games last year, but all were against weaker sides; it's not as big a distraction. I don't think it would be a slight on Spurs to say them winning the league would require a miracle. A great season for them would be to retain a place in the top four and get out of the CL groups - it would help establish them as a 'top side' and bring in greater exposure and revenue. It'll be tough for them to do so, but definitely achievable. I just can't see them challenging for the title though.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by Romford Pele on Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:28 pm

    Chelsea for me need to add some more 'facking runners' to that team. All their players are getting on, and as such there is no indication of any young players coming in to freshen it up.

    I remember seeing them away to Spurs last season where they literally got overran, and the 2-1 scoreline didn't do it justice. Obviously Essien being back will help, but I still think they need more otherwise I can see them struggling in certain games.

    United are United. Cliched I know, but they will always be there or there abouts. After January I expect them to win something like 12 games on the bounce. My favourites once again. Will Giggs and Scholes ever retire? Doubt it.


    With Arsenal, we have a pretty decent squad, but as Sheff pointed out, we're prone to a key player being struck down with injury at some point. If we can have a relative clean bill of health, then we have a chance. It does remain to be seen how the Cesc sage affects him and the team, if at all. But if his heart is not in it, then i'd rather he go now and build the team around Nasri.

    Speaking of the devil, it's only pre-season I know, but he has shown hunger, determination and motivation which I hope the rest of the team follow. Him and Theo both have points to prove so hopefully they can stay fit and start to realise their true potential.

    City have an amazing squad, though I still think it's too early for them to challenge. They have players with massive egos already at the club, so they could self-destruct at any point. Regardless, if they get it right early, they could still cause some serious damage.

    Those would be the main challenegers for me. I don't expect the top clubs to lose as much as they did last season, but you never know.


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    Post by Romford Pele on Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:31 pm

    Sheffield gunner wrote:Have Spurs had a good season when they've fought on numerous (serious) fronts? It can't be a coincidence that by far their best league efforts have come when they've focused almost exclusively on the league. They may have had quite a few cup games last year, but all were against weaker sides; it's not as big a distraction. I don't think it would be a slight on Spurs to say them winning the league would require a miracle. A great season for them would be to retain a place in the top four and get out of the CL groups - it would help establish them as a 'top side' and bring in greater exposure and revenue. It'll be tough for them to do so, but definitely achievable. I just can't see them challenging for the title though.


    Ale

    Also Spurs are Spurs. They are prone to losing at the most random of times. Wolves done the double over them last season FFS! As much as I like Wolves, that shouldn't happen. A side 'aspiring' for the title shouldn't lose home or away to Wolves.

    Who are these WC players btw? Their first 11 is good, but I still think there are at least four better sides than them in the league.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by S4P on Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:14 am

    debaser wrote:
    L r dd wrote:
    Romford Pele wrote:I presume you think Chelsea will be out because their team is old?

    I can also assure you Spurs will not be challenging for the title as long as they have the likes of Defoe, Dawson, Jenas, Assou-Ekkotto there etc.


    If they get a top striker they have all positions covered with top quality. Jenas never plays. The other 3 are alright.

    Chelsea i just see their two main players as past their best now. Drogba had his mega season and Lampard has had his day. Malouda & Anelka are not good enough to fully replicate that level of production.


    Players don't decline that quickly. They may be starting the decline, but both Lampard and Drogba are still very capable of getting around 20 goals again this season, assuming they stay fit.

    They should have Essien coming back, who was missing for much of last time and he's a big player for them. Also think Zhirkov will be more of an important player for them this time round. If they add in another midfield signing with Benyanoon and they should have covered for the loss of Deco, Ballack, J.Cole.


    Let's not forget that as late as April lerd was telling us all that Man Utd's only threat to winning a 4th straight title was Arsenal. We will be stronger this season with Essien back (providing he stays fit for more than 5 games) and with no Ballack to slow down the tempo. Time for the likes of Sturridge to finally step up and challenge for a place too.

    If Rooney's form for Man Utd is anything like his World Cup form, it could be a difficult (and potentially final) season for Fergie.

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    Re: Who is going to be Premier League champions 2010/2011

    Post by rosenthal on Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:12 am

    COTR wrote:
    Spurs haven't added to their squad at all yet


    Not been that much activity at Tottenham,
    but we do have one signing -
    Sandro, 21 yo brazilian international.
    Holding midfielder. Captain of the Brazil U21 team.
    Was on stand by for the World Cup, and is currently in the senior squad.
    His team is in the semi finale of the Copa Libertadores,
    he'll join up in august when the tournament is over.

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