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    Tweesus

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    Players to look out for this season?

    Post by Tweesus on Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:32 pm

    So anyone in particular at your club or at others that you'll be keeping an extra keen eye on this season?

    As always, I'll be interested in seeing how some of our young english players do. In particular, I'm going to try and watch Phil Jones who looked mightily impressive last season (Blackburn).

    There may well be a few top level clubs loaning out their players to lower level EPL clubs - in particular, Emmanuel-Thomas of Arsenal, Van Arnolt of Chelsea and Tom Cleverley of Man Utd. I'll be monitoring all three. There's another Dutch/Belgian guy at Chelsea - a central defender I think, who is supposed to be damn good that i'll also be keeping an eye on, but I've forgotten his name Sad

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by fcb on Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:34 pm

    Jeffrey Bruma.

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by Tweesus on Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:35 pm

    ok

    Cheers Kas. Hopefully he'll be sent out on loan to someone.

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by COTR on Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:03 pm

    Daniel Pacheco and our new signing Alberto Aquilani

    I'm also looking forward to seeing if Fergie has finally got something right in the transfer market with the little Mexican

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by debaser on Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:28 pm

    For Villa, want to see if any from Clark (CB), Albrighton (Wing), Weimann (FW) and Delfouneso (FW) start to make impact.

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by Kimbo on Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:31 pm

    Tamas Kadar, Haris Vuckic, and James Milner. <Ale>

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by Luis on Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:56 pm

    Zigic

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by stinger on Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:47 pm

    Jack Rodwell is probably known enough now to be treated as a important player Everton, but of course he will be expected to keep progressing.

    So from Everton it will be Seamus Coleman, RB, who spent majority of last season at Blackpool and he was doing very well there. He was also MOTM in 2:2 match vs Tottenham last season at Goodison. He was bought for... 150k 2 years ago from Sligo Rovers Smile.

    Also, Magaye Gueye is showing some potential in friendlies, we'll see how he will perform when league start.


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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:59 pm

    So far... Kyle Walker.

    Agree with Stinger on Coleman.

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by Chris 23* on Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:14 pm

    Ryan Babel!

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by stinger on Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:18 pm

    Big 4 Billy Bollocks™ wrote:So far... Kyle Walker.

    Agree with Stinger on Coleman.

    Walker looks class every time I see him in friendlies, too bad Kyle Naughton looks poor...

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by christmasborocooper on Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:47 pm

    Naughton is shit.

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by Pierre Littbarski on Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:31 pm

    The Mexican at United (pains me to say it)

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by Batman on Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:42 am

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:The Mexican at United (pains me to say it)


    ok

    Scored again last night


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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by The Professor on Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:38 pm


    Nasri and/or Diaby

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by Rosicky on Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:45 pm

    The Professor wrote:
    Nasri and/or Diaby


    lol!

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by stinger on Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:04 pm

    The Professor wrote:
    Nasri and/or Diaby

    Yeah sure, Diaby improvement, which will happen of course next season (it was supposed to happen every season for last 3 seasons probably), is probably your answer for Barca's buying Fabregas next summer from "European section".

    Shouldn't we make a poll about it? Which will happen first - Diaby having a breaktrough season or Fabregas leaving Arsenal for Barca? Laugh

    Nasri looks like a strong candidate though.

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by The Professor on Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:58 pm

    stinger wrote:
    The Professor wrote:
    Nasri and/or Diaby

    Yeah sure, Diaby improvement, which will happen of course next season (it was supposed to happen every season for last 3 seasons probably), is probably your answer for Barca's buying Fabregas next summer from "European section".

    Shouldn't we make a poll about it? Which will happen first - Diaby having a breaktrough season or Fabregas leaving Arsenal for Barca? Laugh

    Nasri looks like a strong candidate though.


    I don't care about what others thought was going to happen with regards to Diaby's development in the past. Did I at any point in the past say a particular season was going to be his breakthrough season? NO! I follow games with my own eyes and then form an opinion based on what I have seen. So why don't u just ask me to explain my choice?

    Last year was his full season in a central position, he used to be play a lot out wide and I saw enough of him last season in his new position to know he's got a future there. And mind u he missed a year of football and never settled into any rhythm for a long time after he returned from injury coz he kept picking on small injuries. Eduardo is a good example of the effect such a nasty injury could have on a player's career but Diaby seems to be doing fine these days.

    Did u watch full Arsenal games from somewhere around November last year to the Barca match this year? I suspect the answer is negative. He was among our better performers during that period. The fact that he played poorly(almost everyone did) post Barca shouldn't take away anything he did before that.



    Should give u an idea what his performances were like during that period. He's an outstanding talent with a rare combination of physical qualities and footballing ability.

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by stinger on Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:06 pm

    Yes, I know - he is a special player, Vieira and 2 other (forgot names from your old post at the moment) combined, too bad they rather combined their weaknesses in him, not their strengths.

    And you keep praising his potential and development for years here, so maybe even if you didn't put his name in topic like this one in previous years, it doesn't mean you weren't speaking highly on him.

    Oh, and I watched Arsenal a lot, including part of the season you mentioned.

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by The Professor on Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:24 pm

    stinger wrote:Yes, I know - he is a special player, Vieira and 2 other (forgot names from your old post at the moment) combined, too bad they rather combined their weaknesses in him, not their strengths.

    And you keep praising his potential and development for years here, so maybe even if you didn't put his name in topic like this one in previous years, it doesn't mean you weren't speaking highly on him.


    scratch

    He's nothing like Vieira and Diaby is actually the much better ball player and goal scorer. Vieira is more defensive minded whilst Diaby is forward thinking(he's more of an instinct player).

    Your 2nd paragraph illustrates the problem with this board, so just because I said he's a talented player in the past means it almost forbidden for me to say he may have a breathrough season this term? and it's not like he's 40 or anything, he's 24, same age Schweinsteiger for example had his breakthrough season.

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by COTR on Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:33 pm

    Surely the breakthrough season was last season though, when all the Gerrard / Vieira / Zidane superlatives were being thrown at him, to the general bewilderment of many on here.

    I like Diaby a lot. He is a good player but I feel as if his level has already plateaued. I don't see where the extra development is going to come from. He is 24 and has been around for quite a while. We know more than enough about him to base this judgement on.

    I think he will have a good season as I think Arsenal are well placed to have a good season, but he isn't someone I think will be showing us anything different from what we already know, which is the point of the thread.

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by stinger on Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:35 pm

    The Professor wrote:
    stinger wrote:Yes, I know - he is a special player, Vieira and 2 other (forgot names from your old post at the moment) combined, too bad they rather combined their weaknesses in him, not their strengths.

    And you keep praising his potential and development for years here, so maybe even if you didn't put his name in topic like this one in previous years, it doesn't mean you weren't speaking highly on him.


    scratch

    He's nothing like Vieira and Diaby is actually the much better ball player and goal scorer. Vieira is more defensive minded whilst Diaby is forward thinking(he's more of an instinct player).

    Your 2nd paragraph illustrates the problem with this board, so just because I said he's a talented player in the past means it almost forbidden for me to say he may have a breathrough season this term? and it's not like he's 40 or anything, he's 24, same age Schweinsteiger for example had his breakthrough season.

    I didn't want to say he is similar to Vieira, I just couldn't remember properly your famous post regarding Diaby, when you said he's like Vieira in one element, and he's like two other great players in two other elements of his game (COTR is saying it was about Zidane and Gerrard, maybe he's right). For my memory - Doh Doh Doh

    Schweinsteiger had his breaktrough season straoght away after being moved centrally, and it will be 3rd season for Diaby when he is considered a central midfield player. Of course nobody can stop you believing it will be his season, but I would be more concerned if he even would start half of the games for Gunners, with his form again being unconsistent, as well as him struggling with injuries...

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by L r dd on Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:39 pm

    The Professor wrote:



    Barca are in for a tough ride tonight if he's 100% fit and we don't approach the match like bunch of idiots. His performances recently have been like 'wow!' - just awesome.

    He likes playing these sort of matches(a big game player), he's a very confident lad, so there will be no issues with nerves. The only thing that might subdue him is if we play Arshavin on th left, that would mean he has to stay back a lot and cover the flank(in sort of a holding role). But if we play a player with good defensive game(Eboue or Rosicky) on the left then Barca will have a lot of troubles containing him. It's not often they play against a pacy beast who also happens to be an awesome footballer

    He's a special player, one of the most talented players of his generation and a rare talent(you will all no doubt laugh at this, but i'd like to hear a good argument against that statement).

    How often do u see a player who can dribble like Hleb, has a physique like Vieira, and can shoot almost like Gerrard?

    Very few people outside the club are aware what a good footballer he(and Song) have become. I think the Spanish or the Milan clubs will be sniffing around them in the summer if we manage to put in a proper performance(by that i don't mean like the headless chicken performances we've seen from us against the big teams this season, but a performance where in we give a good account of ourselves).

    COYG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by The Professor on Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:43 pm

    stinger wrote:
    The Professor wrote:
    stinger wrote:Yes, I know - he is a special player, Vieira and 2 other (forgot names from your old post at the moment) combined, too bad they rather combined their weaknesses in him, not their strengths.

    And you keep praising his potential and development for years here, so maybe even if you didn't put his name in topic like this one in previous years, it doesn't mean you weren't speaking highly on him.


    scratch

    He's nothing like Vieira and Diaby is actually the much better ball player and goal scorer. Vieira is more defensive minded whilst Diaby is forward thinking(he's more of an instinct player).

    Your 2nd paragraph illustrates the problem with this board, so just because I said he's a talented player in the past means it almost forbidden for me to say he may have a breathrough season this term? and it's not like he's 40 or anything, he's 24, same age Schweinsteiger for example had his breakthrough season.

    I didn't want to say he is similar to Vieira, I just couldn't remember properly your famous post regarding Diaby, when you said he's like Vieira in one element, and he's like two other great players in two other elements of his game (COTR is saying it was about Zidane and Gerrard, maybe he's right). For my memory - Doh Doh Doh


    The way they transition defence to attack in split seconds. Further I likened his way of dribbling to Hleb ie using great close control and trickery.

    stinger wrote:Schweinsteiger had his breaktrough season straoght away after being moved centrally, and it will be 3rd season for Diaby when he is considered a central midfield player. Of course nobody can stop you believing it will be his season, but I would be more concerned if he even would start half of the games for Gunners, with his form again being unconsistent, as well as him struggling with injuries...


    Question

    A typo or u are making things up.

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by stinger on Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:45 pm

    Not a typo, and not making things up, he was part of central midfield rotation with Song, Denilson Smith and Fabregas for last 2 years, Rosicky was mostly injured, and Nasri spent much more time playing out wide than Diaby.

    The Professor wrote:

    How often do u see a player who can dribble like Hleb, has a physique like Vieira, and can shoot almost like Gerrard?


    Hmm, he shoots like Hleb, has a physique almost like Vieira and dribble like Gerrard - sounds better now Laugh


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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by The Professor on Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:46 pm

    COTR wrote:Surely the breakthrough season was last season though, when all the Gerrard / Vieira / Zidane superlatives were being thrown at him, to the general bewilderment of many on here.

    I like Diaby a lot. He is a good player but I feel as if his level has already plateaued. I don't see where the extra development is going to come from. He is 24 and has been around for quite a while. We know more than enough about him to base this judgement on.

    I think he will have a good season as I think Arsenal are well placed to have a good season, but he isn't someone I think will be showing us anything different from what we already know, which is the point of the thread.


    Laugh

    Sure u do ok

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by The Professor on Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:49 pm

    stinger wrote:Not a typo, and not making things up, he was part of central midfield rotation with Song, Denilson Smith and Fabregas for last 2 years, Rosicky was mostly injured, and Nasri spent much more time playing out wide than Diaby.


    Then I won't waste my time discussing with u. Ciao


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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by stinger on Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:50 pm

    The Professor wrote:
    stinger wrote:Not a typo, and not making things up, he was part of central midfield rotation with Song, Denilson Smith and Fabregas for last 2 years, Rosicky was mostly injured, and Nasri spent much more time playing out wide than Diaby.


    Then I won't waste my time discussing with u. Ciao


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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by COTR on Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:53 pm

    The Professor wrote:
    COTR wrote:Surely the breakthrough season was last season though, when all the Gerrard / Vieira / Zidane superlatives were being thrown at him, to the general bewilderment of many on here.

    I like Diaby a lot. He is a good player but I feel as if his level has already plateaued. I don't see where the extra development is going to come from. He is 24 and has been around for quite a while. We know more than enough about him to base this judgement on.

    I think he will have a good season as I think Arsenal are well placed to have a good season, but he isn't someone I think will be showing us anything different from what we already know, which is the point of the thread.


    Laugh

    Sure u do ok


    Your comment clearly illustrates the problem with this board Prof ok

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    Re: Players to look out for this season?

    Post by The Professor on Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:56 pm

    COTR wrote:
    The Professor wrote:
    COTR wrote:Surely the breakthrough season was last season though, when all the Gerrard / Vieira / Zidane superlatives were being thrown at him, to the general bewilderment of many on here.

    I like Diaby a lot. He is a good player but I feel as if his level has already plateaued. I don't see where the extra development is going to come from. He is 24 and has been around for quite a while. We know more than enough about him to base this judgement on.

    I think he will have a good season as I think Arsenal are well placed to have a good season, but he isn't someone I think will be showing us anything different from what we already know, which is the point of the thread.


    Laugh

    Sure u do ok


    Your comment clearly illustrates the problem with this board Prof ok


    ok

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