look at all the players and talents we had at the begin and mid of the 90`s


möller = götze
hässler = özil
sammer = kedhira
effenberg = kroos
kohler = hummels
klinsmann = schürrle
riedle = klose^^
ilgner = adler
helmer = badstuber
scholl = marin
kahn = neuer
basler = müller


and we had world class players in

matthäus = schweinsteiger
brehme = lahm
augenthaler = mertesacker
neuer and özil

this generations looks even better, tactically and on the ball

Well we have Shaun Wright Phillips. End of.

Has it already been 5 minutes since the last "German talents are awesome" thread?

Let me curse it here and now: it's a Golden Generation. Now you can look forward to matching the Golden Generations of Portugal and England over the next few years

Hlebagone wrote:Well we have Shaun Wright Phillips. End of.

And Kevin Davies

Kroos wrote:look at all the players and talents we had at the begin and mid of the 90`s


möller = götze
hässler = özil
sammer = kedhira
effenberg = kroos
kohler = hummels
klinsmann = schürrle
riedle = klose^^
ilgner = adler
helmer = badstuber
scholl = marin
kahn = neuer
basler = müller


and we had world class players in

matthäus = schweinsteiger
brehme = lahm
augenthaler = mertesacker
neuer and özil

this generations looks even better, tactically and on the ball

We have Paul McShane >>>>>>>>>>> ^

Game, set and match.

Kroos wrote:look at all the players and talents we had at the begin and mid of the 90`s


möller = götze
hässler = özil
sammer = kedhira
effenberg = kroos
kohler = hummels
klinsmann = schürrle
riedle = klose^^
ilgner = adler
helmer = badstuber
scholl = marin
kahn = neuer
basler = müller


and we had world class players in

matthäus = schweinsteiger
brehme = lahm
augenthaler = mertesacker
neuer and özil

this generations looks even better, tactically and on the ball

NONE of this matters AT ALL

CHARACTER and PERSONALITY are FAR more important than skill , talent or even tactical ability

MANY of the latest TALENTS are metrosexual, scarf-wearing pussies who crumble when the going gets tough

just take the PATHETIC display against Spain

WOHLFÜHLFUSSBALLER, die nur bei Zimmertemperatur aufblühen

let's hope, all it takes is TIME for them to become MEN: also see the Schweini transformation

Ä wrote:

Kroos wrote:look at all the players and talents we had at the begin and mid of the 90`s


möller = götze
hässler = özil
sammer = kedhira
effenberg = kroos
kohler = hummels
klinsmann = schürrle
riedle = klose^^
ilgner = adler
helmer = badstuber
scholl = marin
kahn = neuer
basler = müller


and we had world class players in

matthäus = schweinsteiger
brehme = lahm
augenthaler = mertesacker
neuer and özil

this generations looks even better, tactically and on the ball

NONE of this matters AT ALL

CHARACTER and PERSONALITY are FAR more important than skill , talent or even tactical ability

MANY of the latest TALENTS are metrosexual, scarf-wearing pussies who crumble when the going gets tough

just take the PATHETIC display against Spain

WOHLFÜHLFUSSBALLER, die nur bei Zimmertemperatur aufblühen

let's hope, all it takes is TIME for them to become MEN: also see the Schweini transformation

i agree on that

and when i look at kroos, kedhira and schweinsteiger i dont have a fear about the lack of characters in future

möller and hässler have been respected because of there footballings skills, both of them where no huge characters

while sammer and effenberg were huge characters and strategists on the field

a good combination is always the best, and who would have thought in 1992 that sammer and effenberg would become the leaders of an cl winning and and euro 96 cup winning team, you never know the progress of players

I agree with Otto.

These are basically a group of promising boy-shafters who are not yet a team of proven winners.

Following the current generation, will they eventually become real man-shafters like Piggy or will they be divisive like Ratty*?

You need more of the former than the latter if you're going to win a world cup, I feel.



*I refer to Lahm here rather than Podolski. Not short on rodenty players.

this is matthäus 1980, 6 years later he was the best midfielder along maradona

again 4 years later he was the leader and character everyone want

so you see everything needs time, schweinsteiger will be the main person in the next years, while the young lads will grow in that time

so at least we have a new generation on the start, other countrys can dream about that

I have no worries about Khedira

Kroos is a different cattle of fish: HUGE TALENT , but a bit FRAGILE

Möller was THE PUSSY in 1996: nickname "Heintje" or "Heulsuse", I think

but when the Czechs scored a goal he seemed to SHIFT into THREE BIGGER GEARS

WITHOUT ANYBODY telling him

Kroos could go that way, but we don't know

you NEED the Sammers, Effes, Loddars, Kohlers, Helmers... though

and at the moment we don't have them

Neuer is the closest to them, but as a goalie is ISOLATED

as for Hummels, who I rate highly: watch the Nutella ad

(and I challenge you): do NOT cry and weep when he says his last WORD like an intimdated schoolboy



zum HEULEN

Helden sehen anders aus

debaser wrote:I agree with Otto.

These are basically a group of promising boy-shafters who are not yet a team of proven winners.

Following the current generation, will they eventually become real man-shafters like Piggy or will they be divisive like Ratty*?

You need more of the former than the latter if you're going to win a world cup, I feel.



*I refer to Lahm here rather than Podolski. Not short on rodenty players.

And that's not even mentioning Marin, who has a very weasel like face.

Not convinced, name the pussies in the World Cup 1st XI (obviously with Müller over Troche, who would indeed fit your label). Even with Philipp as the Schleimer rat, and metrosexual Badstuber (who I have no fears about, more about Merte if he continues to be first choice indefinitely), not sure how your theory translates into or affects performances on the field.

Losing to the current Spain in two consecutive crunch games, the second with far more honour than the first, for the big tournaments is no disgrace and not really to do with a lack of character. Even if you point out the lack of courage, belief and boldness in the recent semi, I'd suggest you point the finger at Löw more than suggesting that the players were Weicheier – that wasn't really the case.