And how much will his transfer fee be?

I think Man. Utd, in a deal worth 25m pounds plus one or two of Fergie's fringe players.

To be honest, I hope Bale doesnt move next season. Spurs shouldn't do the cardinal mistake of selling their best talent for big prize and then get 2-3 half-talents. They have to build on this. Especially because they now play in CL.

Well, I'm going to be CONTROVERSIAL here and suggest he'll stay at Spurs.

Although saying that, I can see why he'd want to get away after the way Spurs dismantled the European Champions at home. And how unsuited the team is tactically to allow him to express himself.

Yep, he must be dying to join debt ridden United to play alongside the likes of Carrick and Bebe

Noah and the Bale wrote:Well, I'm going to be CONTROVERSIAL here and suggest he'll stay at Spurs.

Although saying that, I can see why he'd want to get away after the way Spurs dismantled the European Champions at home. And how unsuited the team is tactically to allow him to express himself.

Yep, he must be dying to join debt ridden United to play alongside the likes of Carrick and Bebe

What about if Spurs finish 5th this season? (assuming Man. Utd. remain in the CL spots, which of course is not a certainty given how they're playing this season). Giggs isn't getting any younger, you know. And Evra's now pushing 30 too.

Kas, you do know our Chairman is Daniel Levy, right?

If Carrick was bought for £3.5mil and sold for £18 mil for nearly £6mil for nearly making the CL, if Berbatov was bought for £10.9ml and sold for £30mil despite being a sulky bastard who chose when he'd turn up and perform, then how in the hell is Bale going to go for just £25mil?!

Plus a couple of players I said. Of course it depends on which players they are. A cash transfer would be no more than 35-40m pounds, if even that much, mark my words.

Keep in mind that the market now is even more depressed than when Berbatov was sold. Also keep in mind that Bale is not a forward, who always have a premium in their transfer fee.

Forwards dont really have a premium over attacking midfielders. Kaka, Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo.

fcb wrote:And how much will his transfer fee be?

I think Man. Utd, in a deal worth 25m pounds plus one or two of Fergie's fringe players.

Sounds about right. I can see SAF going bak for Bale whom he tried to sign i recall some years ago.

His old pal 'arry will no doubt be happy to do a good turn in his no doubt short time as manager of the Spurts!

I would imagine Carrick and/or Berb could be very appealing sweetners!

One thing I should point out which I think will be in Spurs' favour: the player himself seems happy there and hasn't come out (yet) with any comments about wanting to move to a bigger club.

Hlebagone wrote:Forwards dont really have a premium over attacking midfielders. Kaka, Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo.

That's true, but is Bale an attacking midfielder or not? It's still up for debate...and esp. if the buying club sees him more as a LB, then the fee will be lower. Then again, Inter were asking around 30m euros (26m pounds) for the 29 year old Maicon this summer, so Bale would presumably cost a bit more than that given his age.


Also, I wonder what his contract situation at Spurs is?


btw, the 4 names you've given have something else in common which explains their ridiculously high transfer fees

I don't think it'd be more than 35m. It'll be 35m-40m.

fcb wrote:

Hlebagone wrote:Forwards dont really have a premium over attacking midfielders. Kaka, Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo.

That's true, but is Bale an attacking midfielder or not? It's still up for debate...and esp. if the buying club sees him more as a LB, then the fee will be lower. Then again, Inter were asking around 30m euros (26m pounds) for the 29 year old Maicon this summer, so Bale would presumably cost a bit more than that given his age.


Also, I wonder what his contract situation at Spurs is?


btw, the 4 names you've given have something else in common which explains their ridiculously high transfer fees

Bale signed a new £10mil deal over 4 years this summer.

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They could soon be joined by Wesley Sneijder, so I'm not sure if it's anything to crow about.

Deluded F*ck™ wrote:

fcb wrote:

Hlebagone wrote:Forwards dont really have a premium over attacking midfielders. Kaka, Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo.

That's true, but is Bale an attacking midfielder or not? It's still up for debate...and esp. if the buying club sees him more as a LB, then the fee will be lower. Then again, Inter were asking around 30m euros (26m pounds) for the 29 year old Maicon this summer, so Bale would presumably cost a bit more than that given his age.


Also, I wonder what his contract situation at Spurs is?


btw, the 4 names you've given have something else in common which explains their ridiculously high transfer fees

Bale signed a new £10mil deal over 4 years this summer.

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They could soon be joined by Wesley Sneijder, so I'm not sure if it's anything to crow about.

If my maths is correct, 10m over 4 years is approx. 50k a week.

That's it? I hope Mr. Levy has a fat increase planned. 50k a week is what Jack Wilshere is (reportedly) earning with his new contract.

Yeah, well we do have a salary cap.

Modric & VDV are our highest earners on £80k p/w (£4mil a year)

Deluded F*ck™ wrote:Yeah, well we do have a salary cap.

Modric & VDV are our highest earners on £80k p/w (£4mil a year)

I guess Bale will have to get a new contract then next summer, making his salary on par with both of them.

Hope he stays as it gives hope to other medium-big clubs but sadly I think he'll end up moving in the summer. I don't think you can trust any player to stay just because they are happy at the minute - and when the big money comes, there'll be pressure from all sides for him to go. Spurs have a fairly strict wage system and, whatever they say publicly, they will have a transfer price at which they won't say no.

Worst case scenario: Man City

But I think he's more likely to end up in Spain at whichever of Barcelona/Madrid most need a left-sided player. Can't see him going to Utd or Chelsea, and the Spanish clubs can outcompete the Italians financially.

Man City have Adam Johnson, why would they go for Bale? Are they going to spoil Johnson's career? Agreed they could do a whole lot better with Bale than with Milner (what was he signed for, again?).

Johnson is a right winger ideally, not that they play him anyway.

Bale will stay at Spurs for at least another season if he has any sense in him. Let's not forget this time last year no one was interested.

debaser wrote:Hope he stays as it gives hope to other medium-big clubs but sadly I think he'll end up moving in the summer. I don't think you can trust any player to stay just because they are happy at the minute - and when the big money comes, there'll be pressure from all sides for him to go. Spurs have a fairly strict wage system and, whatever they say publicly, they will have a transfer price at which they won't say no.

Worst case scenario: Man City

But I think he's more likely to end up in Spain at whichever of Barcelona/Madrid most need a left-sided player. Can't see him going to Utd or Chelsea, and the Spanish clubs can outcompete the Italians financially.

If he's going to Spain, I'd put my money on Madrid.

I really don't think Barça can compete financially, and the club has other positions which need strengthening: attack, central midfield, and possibly CB...each of which has some big money names being heavily linked.

Plus there are enough left sided players in the squad already: Abidal, Maxwell, Keita, Adriano, Iniesta, Pedro, Villa, Bojan can all play at various positions across that flank. The right flank has much less depth.

Madrid are getting some good form out of Marcelo but as we know they are very prone to seeing a cow in another field and thinking it's better than the cow they have.

fcb wrote:

debaser wrote:Hope he stays as it gives hope to other medium-big clubs but sadly I think he'll end up moving in the summer. I don't think you can trust any player to stay just because they are happy at the minute - and when the big money comes, there'll be pressure from all sides for him to go. Spurs have a fairly strict wage system and, whatever they say publicly, they will have a transfer price at which they won't say no.

Worst case scenario: Man City

But I think he's more likely to end up in Spain at whichever of Barcelona/Madrid most need a left-sided player. Can't see him going to Utd or Chelsea, and the Spanish clubs can outcompete the Italians financially.

If he's going to Spain, it would have to be Madrid. I really don't think Barça can compete financially, and the club has other positions which need strengthening: attack, midfield, possibly CB...each of which has some big money names being heavily linked. Plus there are enough left sided players in the squad: Abidal, Maxwell, Keita, Adriano, Iniesta, Pedro, Villa. If anything, Barça need a Bale-type on the right flank, with just Alves and Adriano able to play there.

You're welcome.

Hlebagone wrote:

fcb wrote:

debaser wrote:Hope he stays as it gives hope to other medium-big clubs but sadly I think he'll end up moving in the summer. I don't think you can trust any player to stay just because they are happy at the minute - and when the big money comes, there'll be pressure from all sides for him to go. Spurs have a fairly strict wage system and, whatever they say publicly, they will have a transfer price at which they won't say no.

Worst case scenario: Man City

But I think he's more likely to end up in Spain at whichever of Barcelona/Madrid most need a left-sided player. Can't see him going to Utd or Chelsea, and the Spanish clubs can outcompete the Italians financially.

If he's going to Spain, it would have to be Madrid. I really don't think Barça can compete financially, and the club has other positions which need strengthening: attack, midfield, possibly CB...each of which has some big money names being heavily linked. Plus there are enough left sided players in the squad: Abidal, Maxwell, Keita, Adriano, Iniesta, Pedro, Villa. If anything, Barça need a Bale-type on the right flank, with just Alves and Adriano able to play there.

You're welcome.

20m plus Bojan?

Fenomeno wrote:Man City have Adam Johnson, why would they go for Bale? Are they going to spoil Johnson's career? Agreed they could do a whole lot better with Bale than with Milner (what was he signed for, again?).

Johnson is currently being left on the bench every game, so Mancini can fit in Yaya, De jong and Barry

City have no problem signing players they don't strictly need - though Bale would certainly walk into their team.

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If they use Milner right he could be excellent - I think they should stick him centrally alongside Yaya Toure and give him more responsibility as he had when he was showing his best form at Villa last season. But from what I've seen they've just put him wide. Milner is the kind of player teams need though - emphasis on team. He's not a glamorous name, but he is going to put in consistently good performances. You need a mixture of players like him and the people like Silva and Johnson who can make the difference with one move but may be quiet for much of the match.

Milner also has the advantage of not being Gareth Barry.

Hlebagone wrote:Milner also has the advantage of not being Gareth Barry.

Excellent point.

Regarding Bale, I think some of these people already predicting a big money move are forgetting he's only established himself as a first team player in the last year - and given he's still a mere kid, I'm sure he will look at other failed big money moves of players his age / experience and realise he's got everything he needs at the moment.

The only problem is if we don't qualify for the CL, but given no club in England bar Chelsea have found any consistent form yet and the apparent problems at Man City, we're still well placed to retain our place in the top 4.

He'll still be here next year, I'm pretty confident of that

Noah and the Bale wrote:

Hlebagone wrote:Milner also has the advantage of not being Gareth Barry.

Excellent point.

Regarding Bale, I think some of these people already predicting a big money move are forgetting he's only established himself as a first team player in the last year - and given he's still a mere kid, I'm sure he will look at other failed big money moves of players his age / experience and realise he's got everything he needs at the moment.

The only problem is if we don't qualify for the CL, but given no club in England bar Chelsea have found any consistent form yet and the apparent problems at Man City, we're still well placed to retain our place in the top 4.

He'll still be here next year, I'm pretty confident of that

I'm amazed that you are so naive about a footballer's mindset.

fcb wrote:

Noah and the Bale wrote:

Hlebagone wrote:Milner also has the advantage of not being Gareth Barry.

Excellent point.

Regarding Bale, I think some of these people already predicting a big money move are forgetting he's only established himself as a first team player in the last year - and given he's still a mere kid, I'm sure he will look at other failed big money moves of players his age / experience and realise he's got everything he needs at the moment.

The only problem is if we don't qualify for the CL, but given no club in England bar Chelsea have found any consistent form yet and the apparent problems at Man City, we're still well placed to retain our place in the top 4.

He'll still be here next year, I'm pretty confident of that

I'm amazed that you are so naive about a footballer's mindset.

Sure, but Bale doesn't seem to be the kind of footballer who would jeopardise his blossoming career with a big money move, especially not when you consider how far he has come in such a short period of time at Spurs.

Yep, it may be naive, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until he - or his agent - begins to try and orchestrate either a pay rise or a move somewhere else. I honestly cannot see him moving anywhere, at least no until the summer, and then I reckon it would only be if we don't qualify for the CL. All the noises from the club are that he's settled and enjoying playing under Redknapp. I'm telling you, y'all just have to wait

Noah and the Bale wrote:

fcb wrote:

Noah and the Bale wrote:

Hlebagone wrote:Milner also has the advantage of not being Gareth Barry.

Excellent point.

Regarding Bale, I think some of these people already predicting a big money move are forgetting he's only established himself as a first team player in the last year - and given he's still a mere kid, I'm sure he will look at other failed big money moves of players his age / experience and realise he's got everything he needs at the moment.

The only problem is if we don't qualify for the CL, but given no club in England bar Chelsea have found any consistent form yet and the apparent problems at Man City, we're still well placed to retain our place in the top 4.

He'll still be here next year, I'm pretty confident of that

I'm amazed that you are so naive about a footballer's mindset.

Sure, but Bale doesn't seem to be the kind of footballer who would jeopardise his blossoming career with a big money move, especially not when you consider how far he has come in such a short period of time at Spurs.

Yep, it may be naive, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until he - or his agent - begins to try and orchestrate either a pay rise or a move somewhere else. I honestly cannot see him moving anywhere, at least no until the summer, and then I reckon it would only be if we don't qualify for the CL. All the noises from the club are that he's settled and enjoying playing under Redknapp. I'm telling you, y'all just have to wait

A lot of the players don't seem to be this kind of footballers... until they are offered a big money move, which makes them changing their mindset immediately.
I can't count all the young players who first woved not to make a mistakes of going for a big money move... and later they just did it.

Unless Spurs will consolidate themselves (or at least show promise to achieve it) as a top team in England/regular CL competitor I can easily see him leaving in 1-2 years.

fcb wrote:

debaser wrote:Hope he stays as it gives hope to other medium-big clubs but sadly I think he'll end up moving in the summer. I don't think you can trust any player to stay just because they are happy at the minute - and when the big money comes, there'll be pressure from all sides for him to go. Spurs have a fairly strict wage system and, whatever they say publicly, they will have a transfer price at which they won't say no.

Worst case scenario: Man City

But I think he's more likely to end up in Spain at whichever of Barcelona/Madrid most need a left-sided player. Can't see him going to Utd or Chelsea, and the Spanish clubs can outcompete the Italians financially.

If he's going to Spain, I'd put my money on Madrid.

I really don't think Barça can compete financially, and the club has other positions which need strengthening: attack, central midfield, and possibly CB...each of which has some big money names being heavily linked.

Plus there are enough left sided players in the squad already: Abidal, Maxwell, Keita, Adriano, Iniesta, Pedro, Villa, Bojan can all play at various positions across that flank. The right flank has much less depth.

Madrid are getting some good form out of Marcelo but as we know they are very prone to seeing a cow in another field and thinking it's better than the cow they have.

And Barcelona are never the favourites to win anything, right kas?????

Also, I can't believe that you are still going on about Marcelo. He has been a sh!t defender until this year when Mourinho finally got it into his head that he actually has defensive responsibilities on the pitch. I don't know why you are so critical of us wanting a defender who can actually mark. He's show vast improvement over last year. And I for one am on the record as saying, finally, he is convincing me as a left back.

I think he's better than Di Maria, although I quite like the Argie, in many aspects but since we've just spent 25m on him last summer I doubt we'll go for Bale any time soon.

stinger wrote:

Noah and the Bale wrote:

fcb wrote:

Noah and the Bale wrote:

Hlebagone wrote:Milner also has the advantage of not being Gareth Barry.

Excellent point.

Regarding Bale, I think some of these people already predicting a big money move are forgetting he's only established himself as a first team player in the last year - and given he's still a mere kid, I'm sure he will look at other failed big money moves of players his age / experience and realise he's got everything he needs at the moment.

The only problem is if we don't qualify for the CL, but given no club in England bar Chelsea have found any consistent form yet and the apparent problems at Man City, we're still well placed to retain our place in the top 4.

He'll still be here next year, I'm pretty confident of that

I'm amazed that you are so naive about a footballer's mindset.

Sure, but Bale doesn't seem to be the kind of footballer who would jeopardise his blossoming career with a big money move, especially not when you consider how far he has come in such a short period of time at Spurs.

Yep, it may be naive, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until he - or his agent - begins to try and orchestrate either a pay rise or a move somewhere else. I honestly cannot see him moving anywhere, at least no until the summer, and then I reckon it would only be if we don't qualify for the CL. All the noises from the club are that he's settled and enjoying playing under Redknapp. I'm telling you, y'all just have to wait

A lot of the players don't seem to be this kind of footballers... until they are offered a big money move, which makes them changing their mindset immediately.
I can't count all the young players who first woved not to make a mistakes of going for a big money move... and later they just did it.

Unless Spurs will consolidate themselves (or at least show promise to achieve it) as a top team in England/regular CL competitor I can easily see him leaving in 1-2 years.

Yep, that's very true. But in my opinion it's rather arrogant to suggest he's going to simply do a runner at the end of the season to Old Trafford or the Bernabeu. Are Spurs a club in decline? Are we a club riddled with debt? Are we not building a new stadium? He's not playing for Portsmouth FFS, his talent isn't going to waste away here if he doesn't leave. If it's just money he's after - fair enough, although he won't get 100K a week here, he can go join the travelling circus up at Man City and play for a team that employs 3 defensive midfielders and won't play their best young attacking player. Or go to Madrid and play for a tactically rigid manager who will win trophies, but will see Bale having to curb his attacking instincts massively.

We'll see what turns his head, but as I said: pretty confident he won't be going anywhere anytime soon. Naive

Noah and the Bale wrote:

Hlebagone wrote:Milner also has the advantage of not being Gareth Barry.

Excellent point.

Regarding Bale, I think some of these people already predicting a big money move are forgetting he's only established himself as a first team player in the last year - and given he's still a mere kid, I'm sure he will look at other failed big money moves of players his age / experience and realise he's got everything he needs at the moment.

The only problem is if we don't qualify for the CL, but given no club in England bar Chelsea have found any consistent form yet and the apparent problems at Man City, we're still well placed to retain our place in the top 4.

He'll still be here next year, I'm pretty confident of that

I said the same of Milner. And he hardly made his name across Europe as Bale has. I can't see any young player in his position turning down, say, Madrid. If he's sensible he'll also know that one injury can ruin it all and you may never get another chance like that.

Regarding CL - someone like Everton can still come into it, even Liverpool if they manage to get into some kind of form. Neither City or Spurs has been consistent or particularly impressive in the league - both been outscored by Blackpool, W Brom, Newcastle, Bolton. Arsenal and Utd have many years experience of finishing top 4 while playing CL games midweek, I'm pretty sure they will both up with Chelsea in the top 3 leaving 4th open for quite a few possibilities.

Games like Bolton away this weekend will be telling for Spurs (also WBA away for City). If the home sides win those, WBA will be 4th and Spurs could be as low as 10-12th at the end of the weekend, it's so close. If you're well placed, so are about eight other teams!