I dont get why so many fans keep cracking one off about him, i used to think he was ok when he was at Plymouth and Leicester etc, he seemed pretty funny but now he seems like a bit of an attention seeker and moan non stop. He seemed to pin the blame on Houllier when Villa bid for Adam but then Liverpool bid and he says its from the club and doesnt dare say a bad word about King Kenny.

Just wondered what people think of him on here ?

As a manager though ive got to say he has done an incredible job with Blackpool getting the best out of players, Taylor-Fletcher for example was an average league one player with Bournemouth and Huddersfield but is now having a half decent season in the prem. He's also done well in the market getting in Adam for £500k and now can sell for £4m+ Matt Phillips is a great pick from Wycombe as well as Grandin and DJ Campbell he is pretty good at picking them. Also when he was at Plymouth he got them challenging near the play-offs and since then they have got relegated and are struggling in League One.

To be fair, it was from the club in our situation as we have given Comolli most of the power to make transfers. Don't really know who is in charge from Villa's perspective.

I like him. He is only defending his club's interests which is what his fans will want to hear.

Yeah he's been a total cock about Villa bidding for Adam. If someone makes an offer for a player that you don't want to accept, you can just refuse, don't have to go off on silly rants about disrespect and then do a complete about-turn when it comes to Liverpool doing exactly the same thing.

His oddness makes him more interesting than some managers, but at the same time he's probably ruling himself out of ever being taken seriously enough for a big club to want him in the future.

debaser wrote:Yeah he's been a total cock about Villa bidding for Adam. If someone makes an offer for a player that you don't want to accept, you can just refuse, don't have to go off on silly rants about disrespect and then do a complete about-turn when it comes to Liverpool doing exactly the same thing.

His oddness makes him more interesting than some managers, but at the same time he's probably ruling himself out of ever being taken seriously enough for a big club to want him in the future.

He has been ranting about our bid as well Debbie. It was all over the papers yesterday.

The bids for Adam were insulting. I don't begrudge him airing that.

I liked him at the beginning of the season, his passion about Blackpool and "giving it a right go" (the epl).
To be honest, I find him quite an annoying c**t now. Gerard Houllier doesn't seem to be a fan either and glad he isn't.

COTR wrote:

debaser wrote:Yeah he's been a total cock about Villa bidding for Adam. If someone makes an offer for a player that you don't want to accept, you can just refuse, don't have to go off on silly rants about disrespect and then do a complete about-turn when it comes to Liverpool doing exactly the same thing.

His oddness makes him more interesting than some managers, but at the same time he's probably ruling himself out of ever being taken seriously enough for a big club to want him in the future.

He has been ranting about our bid as well Debbie. It was all over the papers yesterday.

The bids for Adam were insulting. I don't begrudge him airing that.

Why should a private bid need a public comment?

As far as I can see neither Villa or Liverpool made a public comment about signing Adam before Holloway. Its not like either club said stuff like 'we made a bid and they're asking for too much' or 'holding the player hostage'...

shazlx wrote:

COTR wrote:

debaser wrote:Yeah he's been a total cock about Villa bidding for Adam. If someone makes an offer for a player that you don't want to accept, you can just refuse, don't have to go off on silly rants about disrespect and then do a complete about-turn when it comes to Liverpool doing exactly the same thing.

His oddness makes him more interesting than some managers, but at the same time he's probably ruling himself out of ever being taken seriously enough for a big club to want him in the future.

He has been ranting about our bid as well Debbie. It was all over the papers yesterday.

The bids for Adam were insulting. I don't begrudge him airing that.

Why should a private bid need a public comment?

As far as I can see neither Villa or Liverpool made a public comment about signing Adam before Holloway. Its not like either club said stuff like 'we made a bid and they're asking for too much' or 'holding the player hostage'...

Adam's agent will obviously have been informed / tapped up / contacted (whatever you want to call it) about these bids meaning what happened today with the transfer request was inevitable.

Holloway made this public to try to highlight the ridiculous nature of the bids and try to start a bidding war. The last thing he wants to do is lose his best player but if he does this is the way he sees he is going to maximise what he gets for him.

£3-4m for his best player ? It is a pisstake and he is treating it as such

Holloway doesnt dare say a bad word about King Kenny because when King Kenny was asked repeatedly about his interest in Adam he refused to comment and turned the questions back on the reporters.

He is a funny guy, remember this legendary quote

To put it in gentleman's terms if you've been out for a night and
you're looking for a young lady and you pull one, some weeks they're
good looking and some weeks they're not the best. Our performance today
would have been not the best looking bird but at least we got her in
the taxi. She wasn't the best looking lady we ended up taking home but
she was very pleasant and very nice, so thanks very much, let's have a
coffee

Reminds me of the West Ham lot and their continued ranting at us, over ANYTHING. Especially the Scott Parker bid in the summer. They made it public, not us.

I like him. He says funny things. He says mental things. He whinges. He gets his team playing good football and he's been winning with it.

Most entertaining manager in the league.

I like him but I think his ranting at Houllier was unnecessary. I read somewhere that it was because Houllier didn't call him personally to talk about it. So if he got a call would he be ok about that bid?

All bids are discussed with players representatives beforehand. Why bother making the effort of making a bid, unless you know that the player would at least consider moving to you.

As for the value of Adam, he seems decent but hasn't he only got 18 months left on his contract?

110% wrote:I like him but I think his ranting at Houllier was unnecessary. I read somewhere that it was because Houllier didn't call him personally to talk about it. So if he got a call would he be ok about that bid?

All bids are discussed with players representatives beforehand. Why bother making the effort of making a bid, unless you know that the player would at least consider moving to you.

As for the value of Adam, he seems decent but hasn't he only got 18 months left on his contract?

he does only have 18 months on his contract, but could they replace him for £4m? Probably no. Is he worth more than £4m to them? If he is the difference between them staying up and going down, then yes.

its refreshing to see someone who refuses to be 'trained' in handling the media. He may put his foot in it on the odd occasion but at least it isnt 14 shade of beige coming out of his mouth like most of the managers. players are even worse. like walking sleeping pills.

110% wrote:I like him but I think his ranting at Houllier was unnecessary. I read somewhere that it was because Houllier didn't call him personally to talk about it. So if he got a call would he be ok about that bid?

Think you're getting Holloway and Bruce conflated.

Bruce had a go at Houllier for not phoning him personally to say we were going to bid for Bent

Holloway had a go at Houllier for answering a question about Adam after he'd told everyone that we've put in a 'derisory' bid for Adam, and for daring to put in a bid in the first place

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Adam should just stay till end of season, it'll be more dignified all round. If he's kept them up he'll be able to leave Blackpool with head high. He's worth more to Blackpool right now than either Villa or Liver, so I don't see it in either's benefit to have a bidding war now. Pretty sure we're out of this one now, anyway.

Who cares if his conduct with the media - judged PURELY on footballing merit, he's the Premier League Manager of the first half of the season without a shadow of a doubt: exceeding expectations of his limited squad AND playing exciting, passing, attacking football in the process.

What he's managed with players like Vaughn, T-Fletcher, Adam and DJ Campbell in particular is stunning - okayish lower league players in the past who look completely at home in the Premier League. Thanks to Holloway and his style of football.

And he's a funny c**t to boot

I like Holloway, always have done and nothing he's said has been out of line or untrue.

I'd say him, Kenny and Mick all come out with some great lines from the Premier League managers. It's nice to watch their press conferences rather than watch boring fucks like Ancelotti, Mancini, Wenger and 'Arry.

Luis wrote:I like Holloway, always have done and nothing he's said has been out of line or untrue.

I'd say him, Kenny and Mick all come out with some great lines from the Premier League managers. It's nice to watch their press conferences rather than watch boring fucks like Ancelotti, Mancini, Wenger and 'Arry.

Yehh, look at those who haven't achieved anything coming out with things to get noticed rather than actually winning matches and trophies, whatever.

xBallack wrote:

Luis wrote:I like Holloway, always have done and nothing he's said has been out of line or untrue.

I'd say him, Kenny and Mick all come out with some great lines from the Premier League managers. It's nice to watch their press conferences rather than watch boring fucks like Ancelotti, Mancini, Wenger and 'Arry.

Yehh, look at those who haven't achieved anything coming out with things to get noticed rather than actually winning matches and trophies, whatever.

I'm not saying the comedians are better managers, just that they take a detour from the conventions, "We need to focus on the next game." "This loss was bad for us we need to improve." etc. If Ancelotti says "this is a bad moment" one more time I'll go potty.

Plus Kenny won 3 league titles

Noah and the Bale wrote:Who cares if his conduct with the media - judged PURELY on footballing merit, he's the Premier League Manager of the first half of the season without a shadow of a doubt: exceeding expectations of his limited squad AND playing exciting, passing, attacking football in the process.

What he's managed with players like Vaughn, T-Fletcher, Adam and DJ Campbell in particular is stunning - okayish lower league players in the past who look completely at home in the Premier League. Thanks to Holloway and his style of football.

And he's a funny c**t to boot

debaser wrote:

110% wrote:I like him but I think his ranting at Houllier was unnecessary. I read somewhere that it was because Houllier didn't call him personally to talk about it. So if he got a call would he be ok about that bid?

Think you're getting Holloway and Bruce conflated.

Bruce had a go at Houllier for not phoning him personally to say we were going to bid for Bent

Holloway had a go at Houllier for answering a question about Adam after he'd told everyone that we've put in a 'derisory' bid for Adam, and for daring to put in a bid in the first place

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Adam should just stay till end of season, it'll be more dignified all round. If he's kept them up he'll be able to leave Blackpool with head high. He's worth more to Blackpool right now than either Villa or Liver, so I don't see it in either's benefit to have a bidding war now. Pretty sure we're out of this one now, anyway.

Thanks for the clarification. I think both rants were unnecessary.

Also agree on Adam, he should stay until the end of the season. The interest in him will still be there if he keeps working hard.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/jan/25/ian-holloway-charlie-adam

Blackpool fined 25K for fielding a weakened team.

Didn't Holloway say he would offer his resignation if this happened?

Ade wrote:Blackpool fined 25K for fielding a weakened team.

Didn't Holloway say he would offer his resignation if this happened?

Yes, he did.
And I can't believe they were fined

If Holloway leaves over this he's an idiot.

That's a joke. We should be fined for the team we sent out against Wigan if that's the case.

The best one, imo:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8048308.stm

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6706937,00.html

"He (Oyston) will be getting my resignation because that is how strongly I feel," Holloway has told the Blackpool Gazette.
"It is up to him whether he chooses to take it.

"I don't know who I am working for. I have done the best job I could for this club and have tried to win every single game, including the game at Aston Villa."

Kimbo wrote:http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6706937,00.html

"He (Oyston) will be getting my resignation because that is how strongly I feel," Holloway has told the Blackpool Gazette.
"It is up to him whether he chooses to take it.

"I don't know who I am working for. I have done the best job I could for this club and have tried to win every single game, including the game at Aston Villa."

What's the point in this?

If he really wants to resign over a little fine then he should do so. He knows Oyston will never in a million years accept that.

I don't agree with the fine in any way, shape or form. In fact, I think it's fucking ridiculous but this is a bit of a none event.

Obviously the 'resignition' is merely for show, but it makes his point more powerfully and the point is totally right. FA should be thoroughly embarrassed by this whole farce. Unless they have evidence a manager is deliberately sabotaging the team for some personal benefit (e.g. gambling) there is no way there should be fines for fielding a 'weakened' team.

If all the players are eligible they are doing nothing wrong, and there is no way for FA to objectively make the case that the team they put out has less chance of winning than any other team they could put out.

Blackpool gave Villa a very tough game and were unlucky to lose 3-2. You can argue putting in squad players with a point to prove gave them a better chance than their normal team.