Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

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Calidad

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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Calidad on Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:41 pm

Was a higher quality (if not as exciting) game than the Arsenal-Spuds game which was also excellent. Madrid just about deserved the win last night. I still think Barca will progress in the CL, but it will be tighter than I thought. Madrid are improving, even if they are dropping all their CF's to do it...

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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Hem fet un.. on Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:41 pm

In the second half football was played.. Maybe that is why you think that the intensity dropped. You do realise that it was supposed to be football and not the five nations, right? Wink
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Super Progress on Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:52 pm

Hem fet un.. wrote:In the second half football was played.. Maybe that is why you think that the intensity dropped. You do realise that it was supposed to be ballet and not a football game , right? Wink
ok
Fixed it for you Wink

The game got boring in the second half for neutrals. Personally I still thought it was a good game but the people I were with and have talked too thought it became too boring as the second half went on. 2 reasons for this in my opinion:

1. Both teams had gotten several yellows after first half that resembled a real cup match

2. Barcelona played their usual style and Real Madrid tried to sit back too much and soak the pressure

The tempo wasn't that good as the second half progressed and especially in the 10-15 mins it got a little boring as I can't remember any chances or any action really.
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Fey on Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:54 pm

Di Maria was excellent last night. He reminds me of Kuyt, though a lesser version obviously. But he works his feckin ass of for the team. Im a fan of such footballers, though im pretty sure they will dislike him in Madrid.

Anyone else yesterday noticed the function of the Barca bench for a change? Amazing how synchronized they all storm of the bench once a Barca player get's on the ground, or the ref gets a wrong call.
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Jaime on Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:01 pm

Fey wrote:Di Maria was excellent last night. He reminds me of Kuyt, though a lesser version obviously. But he works his feckin ass of for the team. Im a fan of such footballers, though im pretty sure they will dislike him in Madrid.

Are you kidding? I love Di Maria! People think because of the 'galacticos' and the like that Madrid only want glitzy footballers but Del Bosque, Camacho, Juanito, Redondo, Raul...they weren't exactly glamour boys. For me personally, I want players who play with guts and who work to go along with the quality. That has been my problem with Benzema all along.

Anyone else yesterday noticed the function of the Barca bench for a change? Amazing how synchronized they all storm of the bench once a Barca player get's on the ground, or the ref gets a wrong call.

Well Puyol was on the bench so he had the others well organised for the protesting.
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Torrente on Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:29 pm

abundance wrote:
King Pipita wrote:After the first match I thought it was clear that Mou was looking at the greater circumstance and yesterday proved that. We understood his tactics and formation better than the Saturday and Mou was also able to adjust the tactics, play Pepe in more of a floating wall role, etc.

The most important thing though was that at the start of Saturday's match, I think our players were still intimidated by Barca. In the CDR match, you could tell that we were no longer which is why the draw accomplished Mou's purpose for that match.
yeah. that's what the aesthetes don't get.

<Ale>


Madrid fans had to endure so many comments from the likes of Cruyf, the media, rival fans, etc. about how we were "supposed to feel" about Saturday's match. Last night showed that to have been encouraged from the positive signs that we saw on Saturday was nothing to be ashamed about.

One thing you can generally count on with Mourinho is that he learns something from every match. He took many lessons from the 5-0 and altered the team respectively, while making small modifications from Saturday's match as well.

We are still too defensive for my liking, but I can forgive for this season since the team is young and still needs to gel. In the following seasons I can envision spells of play such as the first 30 minutes of the 4-2 from Barcelona - Chelsea a few years ago, in which their midfield got pressured so badly that they got overrun with 3 goals.

Last night also showed yet again that Sergio Ramos is a CB, NOT a fullback. He hasn't had a good season playing as RB since the first Schuster season, whereas every time he plays as CB he looks top class. I don't care if he plays well as RB for Spain, Arbeloa should play there for the rest of the season.

I still think that even though they are not bad players, Busquets and Pedro are relative weak links in Barcelona. Yaya Toure would have done a much better job in covering the midfield gaps to neutralize those Madrid counter attacks while being much better on the ball, whereas a more skillful player would have done significantly more when finding himself in the positions that Pedro did with the ball last night. Surprisingly, Villa is still on a horrible streak of games. He's got the Torres syndrome at the moment, which worked great for us the last 2 games.


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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Hem fet un.. on Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:43 pm

ohh yes please Ramos as CB! Agree on Villa and Pedro. Yaya was never very tactically disciplined but I am sure Mascherano would had done a better job covering the counterattacks.

For me, put Iniesta-Villa-Messi in attack and put Xavi-Masche-Busquets in midfield for the Bernabeu game
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by abundance on Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:29 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:
Nothing to do with aesthetics (never expect that from Mourinho teams anyway), but more about effectiveness, at least for me. If hoofball worked, I wouldn't have said anything. This is football, there are a lot of different styles, and all of them are valid as long as they work and you win.
Wasn't referring to any poster here in particular, just to the general backslash and media pundits reactions after matches like that.

I actually agree with your points but you still have to account for the fact that Rome wasn't built in a day.
Real came from a straight trashing, to build effectiveness they first had to be humble in facing their fears and shortcomings.
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Puro on Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:51 pm

Whoop Some game eh! Whoop Whoop Whoop

WOW! each game grows exponentially in intensity, and now all the steak will be thrown in the grill with them two CL games! cheers

Did anyone see this mamacita watching last night's game? Biggrin

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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Jaime on Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:18 pm

Hem fet un.. wrote:ohh yes please Ramos as CB! Agree on Villa and Pedro. Yaya was never very tactically disciplined but I am sure Mascherano would had done a better job covering the counterattacks.

For me, put Iniesta-Villa-Messi in attack and put Xavi-Masche-Busquets in midfield for the Bernabeu game

Ooooh! Going to park the bus, eh? Wink
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Murray on Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:47 pm



lol!
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Jaime on Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:52 pm

lol!

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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Hem fet un.. on Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:57 pm

Jaime wrote:
Hem fet un.. wrote:ohh yes please Ramos as CB! Agree on Villa and Pedro. Yaya was never very tactically disciplined but I am sure Mascherano would had done a better job covering the counterattacks.

For me, put Iniesta-Villa-Messi in attack and put Xavi-Masche-Busquets in midfield for the Bernabeu game

Ooooh! Going to park the bus, eh? Wink

I just want to see Masche flying into a two footed tackle on Pepe and Cronaldo! Best that he does that when he isnt playing as a CB Wink
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by S4P on Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:58 pm

Torrente wrote:We are still too defensive for my liking, but I can forgive for this season since the team is young and still needs to gel. In the following seasons I can envision spells of play such as the first 30 minutes of the 4-2 from Barcelona - Chelsea a few years ago, in which their midfield got pressured so badly that they got overrun with 3 goals.

To be fair Xavi and Iniesta were some 6 years younger and less experienced that night. Xavi got robbed of possession by Lampard in the build up to the 3rd (Duff's) goal. Something you would never see today.
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:03 am

Has the whole "Ramos is so upset at damaging the trophy that he's requested a transfer to Arsenal to make sure it doesn't happen again" joke been done yet?

No?

Okay! ok Ale
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Rosicky on Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:25 am

Deluded F*ck wrote:Has the whole "Ramos is so upset at damaging the trophy that he's requested a transfer to Arsenal to make sure it doesn't happen again" joke been done yet?

No?

Okay! ok Ale

lol!

Twat.
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by christmasborocooper on Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:24 pm

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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Super Progress on Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:40 pm

Deluded F*ck wrote:Has the whole "Ramos is so upset at damaging the trophy that he's requested a transfer to Arsenal to make sure it doesn't happen again" joke been done yet?

No?

Okay! ok Ale
lol! lol! lol! lol!
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Kroos on Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:22 pm

kedhira is out for the rest of the season

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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by TM on Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:23 pm

Carvalho and Khedira both out =/
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by fcb on Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:44 pm

Guardiola suddenly decides he wants to be like Mourinho Doh

Is he cracking up?



"We will train at the Bernabeu on Tuesday to get used to the long grass"

"In the Cup final we were unlucky to get a linesman with excellent eyesight, who spotted an offside of a few centimetres"

"I'm sure Mourinho would be very happy if the ref is Portuguese" (when asked about a rumour that the ref for Wednesday will be a Portuguese official)
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Cristiano on Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:40 am

fcb wrote:Guardiola suddenly decides he wants to be like Mourinho Doh

Is he cracking up?



"We will train at the Bernabeu on Tuesday to get used to the long grass"

"In the Cup final we were unlucky to get a linesman with excellent eyesight, who spotted an offside of a few centimetres"

"I'm sure Mourinho would be very happy if the ref is Portuguese" (when asked about a rumour that the ref for Wednesday will be a Portuguese official)

He's definitely not cracking up and he's not bieng like that 'scum' Mourinho, Guardiola's shit don't stink you see and he also walks on water.
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Hlebagone on Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:53 am

Mourinho's getting to him! Happens to the best of us. And Wenger and Ferguson.
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by fcb on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:39 am

After seeing the leniency of the ref in the Cup final, he probably decided he needs to fight fire with fire and also put pressure on the ref/UEFA.

But I don't agree, he should remain classy as he usually does in his press conferences.
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Isco Benny on Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:41 am

Deluded F*ck wrote:Has the whole "Ramos is so upset at damaging the trophy that he's requested a transfer to Arsenal to make sure it doesn't happen again" joke been done yet?

No?

Okay! ok Ale

Laugh
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Super Progress on Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:00 pm

fcb wrote:Guardiola suddenly decides he wants to be like Mourinho Doh

Is he cracking up?



"We will train at the Bernabeu on Tuesday to get used to the long grass"

"In the Cup final we were unlucky to get a linesman with excellent eyesight, who spotted an offside of a few centimetres"

"I'm sure Mourinho would be very happy if the ref is Portuguese" (when asked about a rumour that the ref for Wednesday will be a Portuguese official)
It is things like this that is the reason Guardiola won't be considered a great. Laugh

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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Hem fet un.. on Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:52 pm

Noah und der Bale wrote:
Deluded F*ck wrote:Has the whole "Ramos is so upset at damaging the trophy that he's requested a transfer to Arsenal to make sure it doesn't happen again" joke been done yet?

No?

Okay! ok Ale

Laugh

Like the joke (in Catalunya): Why did the trophy fall? well, the trophy realised that it was in Cibeles and decided to commit to suicide by jumping in front of the bus
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by fcb on Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:31 pm

Super Mourinho wrote:
fcb wrote:Guardiola suddenly decides he wants to be like Mourinho Doh

Is he cracking up?



"We will train at the Bernabeu on Tuesday to get used to the long grass"

"In the Cup final we were unlucky to get a linesman with excellent eyesight, who spotted an offside of a few centimetres"

"I'm sure Mourinho would be very happy if the ref is Portuguese" (when asked about a rumour that the ref for Wednesday will be a Portuguese official)
It is things like this that is the reason Guardiola won't be considered a great. Laugh

Your hypocrisy is as amazing as a Xavi through-ball Biggrin
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Super Progress on Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:11 pm

fcb wrote:
Super Mourinho wrote:
fcb wrote:Guardiola suddenly decides he wants to be like Mourinho Doh

Is he cracking up?



"We will train at the Bernabeu on Tuesday to get used to the long grass"

"In the Cup final we were unlucky to get a linesman with excellent eyesight, who spotted an offside of a few centimetres"

"I'm sure Mourinho would be very happy if the ref is Portuguese" (when asked about a rumour that the ref for Wednesday will be a Portuguese official)
It is things like this that is the reason Guardiola won't be considered a great. Laugh

Your hypocrisy is as amazing as a XaviTotti through-ball Biggrin
Wink
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Re: Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Post by Puro on Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:23 pm

fcb wrote:Guardiola suddenly decides he wants to be like Mourinho Doh

Is he cracking up?



"We will train at the Bernabeu on Tuesday to get used to the long grass"

"In the Cup final we were unlucky to get a linesman with excellent eyesight, who spotted an offside of a few centimetres"

"I'm sure Mourinho would be very happy if the ref is Portuguese" (when asked about a rumour that the ref for Wednesday will be a Portuguese official)

NO! I believe that a little controlled anger is a gift. Channel it properly to annihilate the ones who hate you, and everything is beautiful.

Pep will have seen that his players have been too passive relative to Jose's team. Pep NEEDS to fire up his team a little bit, and I like the fact that his players are reading that he's got a little anger in him. Controlled anger is a GIFT! I expect a different Barcelona for the CL tie, we shall see them at their very best, and they have to be since Real Madrid HAVE PEAKED!

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