2010/2011 – Bundesliga General Discussion Thread

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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed May 25, 2011 8:14 pm

Gladbach waking up. Idrissou hits the bar with a powerful header.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed May 25, 2011 8:19 pm

Bochum - Gladbach 1-0 HT (1-1 aggr.)

If it remains like this, we'll have extra time and probably even penalties.

Have to leave now though.
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Post by Allez les rouges on Wed May 25, 2011 9:08 pm

Sub Camargo does it again with a lovely through-ball for Reus to equalize coolly. Nicely finished, will be good to see him in a national shirt as you said.
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Post by Allez les rouges on Wed May 25, 2011 9:25 pm

And the draw is more than enough for Gladbach. Good stuff, great support from the Bochum fans but much rather have Gladbach stay up than more graue Maeuse...
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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed May 25, 2011 10:11 pm

Reus Ale

Clearly injured and limping during half of the match, yet still scoring such an important goal. About time he plays for Germany.

From all the great attacking midfielders / wingers etc. we have coming through, he is arguably the most dangerous in front of the goal. That especially speaks for him when we're talking about the wing positions in our 4-2-3-1 system, as Löw prefers players with a considerable goal threat like Müller and especially Podolski there. Reus basically offers everything Poldi does and more.
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Post by Ä on Wed May 25, 2011 10:32 pm

you and your ageism , blut Laugh

you are a pedophile just like Wenger

we FINALLY have a few players with experience and a certain maturity (Schweini, Poldi, Lahm, Merte, well , take that back )

and YOU want to "VERJÜNGEN" the team once again

Grr

you are quite right though, we have more excellent players growing out of our ears than we can use

and YES, Reus is a GEM

a few years back, when some on here starting predicting great things for Marin, I said that Reus would be even better

BUT

we need an EXPERIENCED and EINGESPIELTE Mannschaft in Eastern Europe

incidentally

Jens thinks the lack of EXPERIENCE and EINGESPIELTHEIT ( Smile ) was the reason why 2006 did not end with a title win

Ale

so keep your fingers off the kids and let the MEN earn some silverware first

nötige Aufforderung
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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed May 25, 2011 10:39 pm

It's not so much about 'VERJÜNGUNG', but more about genuine quality. The younger generation coming through are simply better footballers. I don't want the established players to be sacked or anything, but I want to see them put under serious pressure, so they have to earn their starting places and don't take them for granted. They need to improve, too.

E.g. Podolski - a very good player for Germany, there is no denying. His goal scoring rate alone speaks for him. However, especially against tough opposition, his total lack of tactical awareness and defensive back tracking is very costly for the team, not to mention his Ronaldo-esque urge to shoot from every angle possible. So if Löw should decide to play Gomez up front in particular, we will need a real midfielder / winger there, it'll be a must.

I want depth and genuine quality. I want us to take advantage of the very high technical and tactical level of our young footballers. I want us to field a midfield that runs rings around the competition. Basically, I want HUMILIATION DOMINATION, too, I'm just more diplomatic about it...

P.S.: Marin is not a Löw type of player. Wonder why you of all people don't rate him. He'll come good, I'm sure.
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Post by Ä on Wed May 25, 2011 11:10 pm

I rate Marin as well

but with kids like Neuer in goal and Müller + Özil doing the creative stuff, we need SOME experience

I cannot stand Löw , but he is right to stick to something resembling a spine: Merte, Lahm, Schweini, Poldi, and soon Gomez as well

you and I know that Merte will soon be out, if he continues like he does now, and that Boateng/Badstuber or Hummels will be our central defense

on the wing, we will have either Aogo or Schmelzer, both kids

Ballack has been replaced by Khedira, and Götze and Schürrle will lower the average as well

BLUT, now stop being silly

you CANNOT win a EUropean Cup or World Cup with a glorified U-21 team

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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed May 25, 2011 11:16 pm

Never said that. However, you can win the Euro with a good mix and very gifted young players on the bench adding depth and options. Replacing Poldi with Götze or Reus in a crucial match could be the last piece of the puzzle to go all the way. Or more importantly, (finally) having a solid and reliable left back and central defenders who are comfortable on the ball and don't get caught off guard when put under pressure.

Again, what I want above everything else is some very tough competition for the starting spots, similar to the level of competition in the 1970s and 1980s. You should earn your place in the NT squad, not to mention starting XI. The starters should be kept on their toes, there should be serious pressure to perform all the time. That is a key ingredient to winning trophies otto.
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Post by Allez les rouges on Wed May 25, 2011 11:32 pm

To speculate about what the team will ideally look like, assuming Merte loses his position and even, for the sake of argument, that Poldi does in some games too (something I am not currently/yet in favour of; I'd like to see something like a scheduled substitution in the upcoming qualifiers, if they're going well, of Podolski with Goetze/Reus on around the hour and see how it goes):

Neuer; Lahm, Hummels, Hoewedes/Badstuber/Boateng, Schmelzer; Schweinsteiger, Khedira; Goetziller; Klose/Gomez

which would represent a max of 4-5 23/24-year-olds and possibly one 20-year-old, with the rest 25-28 and the experience of Klose and Friedrich for instance (who might always reload his WM form and retain his place somehow). By no means a U21 team, an even more ludicrous suggestion given the experience (CL and international) Oezil and Mueller will have by then. It's a strong spine, with some of the defence a touch youthful (as if there's an alternative to solving some of the problems at left- and centre-back), and it's a posit6ive not a negative to have more youthful and exciting options on the bench.

This isn't horrifyingly inexperienced, it's mouthwatering.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed May 25, 2011 11:39 pm

That midfield...Blush

Potentially, it looks absolutely awesome. It remains to be seen if it can be fine tuned into a true winning machine. All of them are intelligent players though, which should make things a lot easier.

That team would basically have players who are comfortable on the ball on every single position including the goal keeper. That's very important when we play the "hornet swarm pressing" Spaniards in particular.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Sat May 28, 2011 6:38 pm

Kicker's newcomers of the season:

Mario Götze (18, Borussia Dortmund, Germany), attacking midfield
Ilkay Gündogan (20, 1.FC Nürnberg, Germany), central midfield / playmaker
Lewis Holtby (20, Mainz 05, Germany), attacking midfield
Julian Draxler (17, Schalke 04, Germany), attacking midfield
Kyriakos Papadopoulos (19, Schalke 04, Greece), defence / defensive midfield
André Schürrle (20, Mainz 05, Germany), forward / attacking midfield
Sidney Sam (23, Bayer Leverkusen, Germany), attacking midfield
Ron-Robert Zieler (22, Hannover 96, Germany), goal
Heung-Min Son (18, HSV, South Korea), forward / attacking midfield
Oliver Baumann (20, Freiburg, Germany), goal
Sven Ulreich (22, VfB Stuttgart, Germany), goal
Sebastian Jung (20, Eintracht Frankfurt, Germany), right back
Marc-André ter Stegen (19, Borussia Mönchengladbach, Germany), goal
Shinji Kagawa (22, Borussia Dortmund, Japan), attacking midfield
Gylfi Thor Sigurdsson (21, Hoffenheim, Iceland), attacking midfield
Manuel Schmiedebach (22, Hannover 96, Germany), central midfield
Julian Schieber (22, 1.FC Nürnberg, Germany), forward
Sebastian Rudy (21, Hoffenheim, Germany), central midfield
Christian Clemens (19, 1.FC Köln, Germany), midfield / wings
Mehmet Ekici (21, 1.FC Nürnberg, Turkey), attacking midfield

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/552629/2/slideshow_von-senkrecht--und-durchstartern_die-newcomer-der-saison.html
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Post by blutgraetsche on Sun May 29, 2011 11:06 pm

Effenberg totally failed in his move to take over Gladbach management. So much about otto's plan to see the good old dinosaurs (like himself) take over German football, since the "majority of real German fans want it that way". A meagre 300 votes don't lie otto... lol!
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Post by Stiftung Haeschentest on Mon May 30, 2011 12:35 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Kicker's newcomers of the season:

Mario Götze (18, Borussia Dortmund, Germany), attacking midfield
Ilkay Gündogan (20, 1.FC Nürnberg, Germany), central midfield / playmaker
Lewis Holtby (20, Mainz 05, Germany), attacking midfield
Julian Draxler (17, Schalke 04, Germany), attacking midfield
Kyriakos Papadopoulos (19, Schalke 04, Greece), defence / defensive midfield
André Schürrle (20, Mainz 05, Germany), forward / attacking midfield
Sidney Sam (23, Bayer Leverkusen, Germany), attacking midfield
Ron-Robert Zieler (22, Hannover 96, Germany), goal
Heung-Min Son (18, HSV, South Korea), forward / attacking midfield
Oliver Baumann (20, Freiburg, Germany), goal
Sven Ulreich (22, VfB Stuttgart, Germany), goal
Sebastian Jung (20, Eintracht Frankfurt, Germany), right back
Marc-André ter Stegen (19, Borussia Mönchengladbach, Germany), goal
Shinji Kagawa (22, Borussia Dortmund, Japan), attacking midfield
Gylfi Thor Sigurdsson (21, Hoffenheim, Iceland), attacking midfield
Manuel Schmiedebach (22, Hannover 96, Germany), central midfield
Julian Schieber (22, 1.FC Nürnberg, Germany), forward
Sebastian Rudy (21, Hoffenheim, Germany), central midfield
Christian Clemens (19, 1.FC Köln, Germany), midfield / wings
Mehmet Ekici (21, 1.FC Nürnberg, Turkey), attacking midfield

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/552629/2/slideshow_von-senkrecht--und-durchstartern_die-newcomer-der-saison.html

Wollscheid deserves a mention there as well.

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Post by blutgraetsche on Mon May 30, 2011 11:20 pm

Armin Veh is the new Eintracht Frankfurt coach:

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1105/News/eintracht-frankfurt-hat-armin-veh-als-neuen-trainer-verpflichtet.html

From winning the Meisterschaft with Stuttgart a few years ago to coaching a relegated team today - Veh's career has been going in one direction only. I wonder if this will change anytime soon.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Tue May 31, 2011 7:16 pm

Blog about the end of the 'Dutch era' in Hamburg:

http://www.spox.com/myspox/group-blogdetail/Eine-Liebe-vergeht--HSV-und----,128381.html

Maybe there is hope for HSV yet... Wink
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The Honigsteins 2011: Bundesliga end-of-season awards

Jürgen Klopp's Borussia Dortmund side may have run away with the title, but there was plenty of the weird and wonderful worth revisiting in the German league this season

by Raphael Honigstein
Wednesday 1 June 2011


So there you had it. For the third time in a row, an odd year saw an odd season, with a post-tournament, knackered and insufficiently strengthened Bayern wilting away to give others a shot.

It was all predictably unpredictable in that sense, but unlike in 2007 and 2009, when the ability to string a few wins together after the winter break was enough to rise above the mundane, one side's superlative performances from October onwards turned it into a procession. One or two wobbly games at the end feigned just the slightest amount of tension but this really was the most one-sided League since the German promo of All I Ever Wanted (Alter Ego Remix) was released in 2002 by the Human League on a 12-inch with nothing on the B-side.

Jürgen Klopp's Borussia Dortmund were the youngest-ever champions, the most exciting team in the competition, tactically the most sophisticated and most adept at getting the very maximum out of the squad. Hardly anyone could live with their pressing and lightning-fast turnovers. The Black and Yellows were to space what Takeru Kobayashi is to hot dogs: they ate it up until the opposition were blue in the face and going down with cramps.

Bayer Leverkusen took a more measured approach, as Jupp Heynckes successfully married his side's great technical potential with some defensive rigidity. The injury-stricken Michael Ballack hardly played but still proved an inspired buy: the combination of the 34-year-old midfielder and Bayer had "runners-up" written all over it, and so it came to pass.

The dethroned champions, meanwhile, completely lost their way amid a bewildering amount of positional changes, with Louis van Gaal stubbornly refusing to play anyone in their accustomed role. Away from home, they won only six games. "Take off their Lederhosen", the popular terrace chant, was sung with gusto by opposing fans, as Bayern's backside was exposed with alarming regularity.

Even stranger things were going on behind the Bavarian's behind, though. Hannover, Mainz, Nürnberg and Kaiserslautern finished unfeasibly high while yesteryear's champions (Stuttgart, Wolfsburg) and this year's Champions League participants (Schalke, Bremen) spent most of the season fighting against the drop.

The instant demise of newly promoted media darlings St Pauli was probably to be expected but Eintracht Frankfurt's fourth relegation in 15 years looked all but impossible at Christmas, when they were seventh. The "Eagles" managed only seven more goals in the second half of the season, however, to equal Tasmania Berlin's horror record of 1965-66. They went down like their electronic colleagues from Phoenix.

There was only one thing quicker and more difficult to predict than Dortmund's attacks: the sack race. Undistinguished campaigns from all but a few of the bigger names saw nervous chairmen axing down coaches on a Conan the Barbarian-scale. Thirteen bosses were dismissed or resigned, three more announced they would leave after the final match. We had teams coming up against a former manager who also happened to be the future manager, and teams playing against a future coach who also happened to be a former coach. The nomadic Felix Magath – he left Wolfsburg for Schalke in May 2010 and Schalke for Wolfsburg in April 2011 – almost managed to sit in two different dugouts simultaneously. Only six out of the 18 teams will start the next season with the same manager in charge.

In August, we will welcome back Hertha BSC Berlin and say a big hello to first-timers FC Augsburg. But in the meantime it's "pfirti, servus" from me. Have a very good summer. But first, the Honigstein Awards 2011

Best XI

Neuer (Schalke); Piszczek, Hummels, Subotic (all Dortmund), Fuchs (Mainz); Robben (Bayern), Sahin (Dortmund), Vidal (Leverkusen), Götze (Dortmund); Gomez (Bayern) , Cissé (Freiburg)

Best player

3) Arturo Vidal, Leverkusen. The Chilean was a disaster in the 5-1 defeat away defeat to Bayern – coincidentally, that's also the club he wants to move to this summer. Apart from that minor mishap, however, the 23-year-old's box-to-box play was sublime, full of guile and effective: 10 goals and 12 assists in 31 starts. A world-class midfielder in the making.

2) Mario Gomez, Bayern, with 28 goals, including five hat-tricks. No Bundesliga striker has scored more in nearly 30 years. The 25-year-old could have easily improved on his tally with more care in front of goal and less dysfunctional build-up play from his colleagues.

1) Nuri Sahin, Dortmund. Borussia's triumph was first and foremost collective, but 22-year-old Sahin was first among equals. The Real-Madrid-bound Turk pulled the strings with a maturity that belied his age, popped up with decisive goals and shaped the champion's style. Not even three missed penalties – an offence that usually warrants capital punishment in German football – could detract from his excellence.

Goal of the season

3) Thomas Müller v Wolfsburg. Keepy-uppy at full pace. And it's his weaker foot.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eam5hzFb0o


2) Mario Götze v Hannover. Not simply a wonderful individual effort but also the goal that effectively ended all doubts.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwGkzGIcIkI


1) Sami Allagui v Bayern. The quintessential Mainz goal: superb movement and awareness from Lewis Holtby. Killer finish to boot.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtJFT9qS7Z0


Nayim from the halfway line award

Georgios Tzavellas's clearance-cum-shot from 73 metres past a befuddled Manuel Neuer bobbled in for the longest-distance goal in the history of the league.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww8w0IUGc_M


Surprise team of the season

1) FC Nürnberg. Staving off relegation looked the only realistic target for the Franconians. But Mehmet Ekici and Ilkay Gündogan struck up one of the best midfield partnerships in the league to provide the striker Julian Schieber with ammunition and protect a remarkably resilient back line. Fourteen different players pitched in with goals. The result? Sixth place.

2) Mainz 05. Thomas Tuchel's boy band were sensational, especially at the start of the season, when their all-action football led to seven wins on the trot. (Bayern, in 2001-02, and Kaiserslautern, in 1995-96, were equally quick out of the blocks; Dortmund won the league on those occasions, too) Fifth place was scant reward for their sophisticated pressing game.

3) Hannover 96. Mirko Slomka was the bookies' favourite for the first dismissal of the season. But the 43-year-old put a game plan (defensive pressing in their own half combined with quick, vertical balls to strikers) into practice that saw the squad perform well beyond its capabilities. The Lower Saxons nearly made the Champions League.

Buy of the season

Shinji Kagawa. The Japanese attacking midfielder was brought in for €350,000 (£306,000) from Cerezo Osaka in Japan's second division. The 22-year-old played brilliantly before breaking his foot at the Asian Cup. Dortmund could easily sell him for €10m, if they were so inclined.

Bébé of the season

Diego. €15m for the pint-sized schemer seemed a bargain for Wolfsburg but the Brazilian's ego was much bigger than his impact. He took and missed penalties that he wasn't supposed to take and left the team hotel before the final game of the season, rather than sit on bench. A crying shame, considering his talent.

Uli Hoeness award for misplaced optimism

Heribert Bruchhagen. "We are seventh now and it would be stupid not to try to finish fifth," said the Frankfurt CEO in the winter break. "We can't go down." They could.

JT medal for unlucky revolutionaries

Steffan "Tiger" Effenberg. The former midfielder wanted to take over Borussia Mönchengladbach by democratic means but the club's members were not in the mood to endorse the "Stinkefinger" coup. Despite some very public campaigning, his initiative won only 335 of 4,769 possible votes at the AGM, some way short of the two-thirds majority necessary to remove the current president, Rolf Königs.

Best goal celebration

Hoffenheim's Icelandic midfielder Gylfi Sigurdsson celebrated his opener against Bayer with a bizarre "I've been shot and will go down holding my crotch" routine. Asked about this disconcerting behaviour, the 21-year-old told reporters he had seen a digital version of himself doing just that in Fifa 2010 on the PlayStation. "I have no idea how they come up with it but decided to go with it now," he explained later. It was a case of life imitating (Electronic) art.

Golden oak 'only in Germany' award

3) Bild. The tabloid had a big problem with Kagawa. "How the hell are we supposed to tell him apart from [Schalke's Japanese player] Atsuto Uchida?" it wondered.

2) An unnamed teacher. He – or she – asked authorities to look into the legality of Julian Draxler's performances for Schalke 04. The 17-year-old prodigy played a number of evening kick-off matches, in possible violation of employment law. Article 14 of the youth worker protection law states that minors are not allowed to work after 8pm. Permitted exceptions include baking, gastronomy, work in amusement parks or artistic performances – none of these categories would seem to fit football, let alone Schalke matches. Despite the legal uncertainties, the authorities didn't intervene. "It's not as if we're bussing in a coach-load of 15-year-olds to check tickets late at night," said a S04 spokesperson.

1) ZDF Sportstudio. It might have seemed a good idea at the time to ask Didier Ya Konan's wife to try her luck at the customary "Torwand" shoot-out in place of the injured Hannover striker. But handing the Ivorian a hand drum and getting him to play during proceedings – "it symbolises the African joy of life", anchor woman Katrin Müller-Hohenstein explained, helpfully – did go beyond the call of duty. Politically incorrect, gallopingly mad, car-crash television made in Tschermanny.

LL Cool J golden microphone for best comeback

Uli Hoeness tried to unsettle Dortmund by conjuring up an uncomfortable image. "If I was wearing black-yellow pants, I wouldn't sleep soundly," said the Bayern president in light of Borussia's slightly less imperious run-in. "Hmm. I wonder what his pants looked like before he went to bed," Klopp shot back.

Swiss Tony award for strained metaphors

Matthias Sammer. "It was a flirt that was interesting for all those involved," the German FA's sporting director said about his aborted negotiations with Hamburger SV. "But it's a problem when one isn't careful. I have a love, that is the German FA. After five years, I fell a little bit for another setup. I was ready for a new setup. And maybe I was ready for a new love. But when I'm getting involved with a new love, I need to know all the details first."

Best text message

"We won't batter them now," the Mainz general manager, Christian Heidel, was texting to a friend at half-time against Wolfsburg, when his side were 3-0 down. They didn't – but still came back to win 4-3.

Best possible transfer recruit dismissed as "unnecessary" in pre-season by Louis van Gaal

4) Gregory van der Wiel, Ajax. ("We have Diego Contento")

3) Sami Khedira, Stuttgart. ("We have David Alaba")

2) Fábio Coentrão, Benfica. ("We have Diego Contento)

1) Nemanja Vidic, Manchester United. ("We have Holger Badstuber")

Silvia Neid award for anti-discriminatory work

"Such crap, he's whistling for every mosquito bite, unbelievable," the Leverkusen sporting director, Rudi Völler, said about referee Deniz Ayetkin's performance. "Go and referee women's football."

Frank Rijkaard golden lama

Javier Pinola. Following a bit of handbags, TV pictures showed the Nürnberg left-back spitting on Bastian Schweinsteiger's head. Pinola's misdemeanour was reminiscent of Frank Rijkaard's liquid assault on Rudi Völler's perm at Italia 90 but even less warranted. If anything, Pinola's mad monk-meets-spandex rocker cut could have done with some lathering.

Guido Westerwelle award for best usage of English as a foreign language

2) Roman Weidenfeller. "We have a grandios saison gespielt," the Borussia Dortmund goalkeeper told his similarly proficient interlocutor from Al-Jazeera TV.

1) Sky reporter post-match question to Steve McClaren: "We saw two different half-times. Was it magic speak?"

Gary Lineker gong for worst ad

2) Neuer, Höwedes, Hummels and Özil take on the dreaded "Nutella curse" in fancy dress. (Previous players who have endorsed the product have tended to lose their form)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CCLAF2Bv2k


1) Football and wallpaper glue. A match made in advertising hell.

http://www.horizont.net/kreation/tv/pages/protected/show.php?id=374040


Franck "Pink Panther" Ribéry Trophy for best ad

Uli Hoeness's "Nürnburger" campaign. (Hoeness, a successful sausage producer away from the pitch, tries to hawk his latest invention)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sa4VushyA8


Unhappiest pre-match experience

Raúl was slightly surprised to meet his player escort.



Unhappiest post-match experience

The age-old cry of "we wuz robbed" had a special, pertinent ring to it in the BayArena. After a narrow 3-2 defeat away in the local derby to Bayer Leverkusen, the Köln players returned to their dressing rooms to find most of their possessions missing. Thieves had somehow managed to take wallets, credit cards and mobile phones. Strangely enough, Lukas Podolski himself was untouched by this crime – "The boys have lost stuff but I've got everything," he told reporters. Police did not believe this was an inside job, however.

Best explanation of Wolfsburg's problems

"We don't have enough points, not enough goals and concede too many goals" – Steve McClaren

Best explanation of Steve McClaren's football at Wolfsburg

"A kind of kick and rush without the rush" – Süddeutsche Zeitung

Most unexpected explanation of Hamburg's problems

"They must have all smoked the same dope", TV reporter Reinhold Beckmann commented live on air

Least confidence-inspiring manager

Pierre Littbarski. Well before his appointment as caretaker at Wolfsburg, the 1990 World Cup winner "Litti" was striking a forlorn figure on public transport.

Least inspiring endorsement

"Signing a big manager would have smacked off panic" – the rationale of the Köln president, Wolfgang Overath, for appointing the Under-23s coach Frank Schaefer.

Harshest stadium banner

"Assholes without tradition to be put here" – Stuttgart at home to Hoffenheim

L Ron Hubbard Cup for esoteric nonsense

Christoph Daum. The Frankfurt coach was never short of a good line – or perhaps he was. The 57-year-old harped on about "audio-suggestion" (sic) and "neurolingualistic methods" (sic) but only managed to look utterly ridiculous in the process.

Mystic Meg award

Thirty-three Chilean miners were rescued, one of them was called Mario Gomez. Bayern's Gomez wears the No33 shirt. So? "It wasn't a coincidence, it was fate," said the striker after registering a hat-trick against Hannover. The striker briefly pretended that he had received exactly 33 text messages after the match, too, but then changed his mind.

Scariest shades

Felix Magath is well known for his eccentric taste when it comes to glasses but he took it to a whole new level when he borrowed a pair from Schalke's bus driver (model: Adidas Evil Eye) to hide an eye infection and followed that up for the match at Stuttgart with a black number that was equal parts Dr Octopus and Belarussian village pimp.

Best bet

HSV captain Heiko Westermann and the St Pauli player Gerald Asamoah agreed that the loser in the derby would clean the winner's car – topless. The match finished in a draw.

The "Over Land and Sea – and Leicester!" award for flying the flag in unusual places

2) A couple of Dortmund supporters hissed a 4m long Black & Yellow flag on top of the Schattenberg mountain (1,800m). The stunt had some worried people call in the mountain rescue service as they mistook the flag for a parachute.

1) The roof of the Schalke stadium caved in under the weight of snow after Christmas. Builders were sent up to repair the tear. Then the unthinkable happened: one worker raised a Dortmund flag on top of the structure. The Arena boss Ulrich Dargel was not amused: "This joke goes too far. This particular worker will never set foot on our building site again. He was supposed to get rid of the snow, not decorate our stadium." The man apparently told Dargel he had always dreamt about seeing the black and yellow flag on S04's stadium and calmly went home after getting rumbled. A hotel in Dortmund offered one year of free beer to the prankster, who never came forward.

Carlton Cole Trophy for the worst ever first touch

Poor Hannover new boy Carlitos was on for his Bundesliga debut on matchday one. Thirty seconds into the game, he went in for a fifty-fifty tackle, managed to touch the ball, then ruptured his cruciate ligament.

Cristiano Ronaldo award for humility

"I feel as if I have a knife in the back," said the Köln goalkeeper Faryd Mondragon. "Jesus was betrayed and deceived, too."

Arsène Wenger award for efforts in youth development

Sven Ulreich. "There is no 'too young' or 'inexperienced' in football, only in street prostitution," said the Stuttgart goalkeeper.

Best excuse

"They had players who had more hair on their backs than on their heads. Obviously they have more experience," said Thomas Müller after Bayern's Champions League elimination by Internazionale.

Best try

Dortmund fans managed to wipe Schalke off the map, at least in one of their fanzines. The people behind schwatzgelb.de emailed Google under false pretences and asked for the Veltins-Arena to be excluded from the Street View service on grounds of privacy – and "ugliness". It didn't quite work.

Best miss

Jakub "Kuba" Blaszczykowski had the ball at his feet and an empty net at his mercy.

http://vodpod.com/watch/4952662-jakub-kuba-blaszczykowski-unbelievable-miss-vs-freiburg


Rolf Harris Shield for animal friendliness

SC Freiburg. They closed down a street outside the stadium to protect a rare breed of migrating toad.

And finally ...

This year's second most uncomfortable social network appearance by a football personality. Felix Magath's move to placate Schalke supporter's anger by opening his own Facebook page suffered from a less than convincing execution. The manager's cringeworthy video will be a rich source for parody for years to come.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=187947737904189&oid=198101323534950&comments

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftsWY4tjxU8

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/jun/01/bundesliga-season-review-borussia-dortmund

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Post by Stiftung Haeschentest on Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:43 pm

That picture of Raul and the escort kid is fucking hilarious lol!
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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:45 pm

Yeah, made my day, too. Awesome stuff.

Loved that Ulreich quote, too, hadn't heard that one before. Some quality stuff by Honigstein again, as always...
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Post by Stiftung Haeschentest on Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:52 pm

I think Ulreich nicked the quote from Stromberg. I heard that one before somewhere... But still awesome. Ale

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Post by Sheffield gunner on Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:25 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Yeah, made my day, too. Awesome stuff.

Loved that Ulreich quote, too, hadn't heard that one before. Some quality stuff by Honigstein again, as always...

Ale

Some very funny stuff in the Bundesliga this year, and the awards are great.

The Ulreich quote is brilliant (although according to some of the comments a bit misquoted): "Jung und erfahren gibt es im Fußball nicht. Das gibt es nur auf dem Straßenstrich"
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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:53 pm

It's not really misquoted IMHO, the meaning is the same. I actually like the original German version even more, because of the rhyme... Very Happy
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Post by Kroos on Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:10 pm

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Post by Isco Benny on Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:15 pm

3rd goal outside of the boot Ale
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Post by Hlebagone on Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:28 pm

Nice to see you giving Muller some credit Kroos, was worried that with all the over uberwunderbar youngsters coming through, you might forget about him.

Also illustrates why I don't agree with Otto's desire to have more experience in the German team. The likes of Muller and Ozil are young only in age. Next year will be their second international tournament, and everything so far illustrates they have the right temperament to deal with this responsibility. Added to the fact they regularly play extremely important matches in the Champions league and the national league. Same for Neuer and Khedira (even if by the looks of it, his place is under pressure).

Considering there are then older players in the squad with more experience, Podolski, Schweinsteiger, Mertesacker, new younger players should be able to fit in seamlessly.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:30 pm

The 2nd and third goal are brilliant on so many levels. Especially like the second one a lot.

Different players and strengths, but Müller is every bit as special as Özil is. Time for a GÖZILLER midfield in the NT...
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Post by Kroos on Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:46 pm

Hlebagone wrote:Nice to see you giving Muller some credit Kroos, was worried that with all the over uberwunderbar youngsters coming through, you might forget about him.

Also illustrates why I don't agree with Otto's desire to have more experience in the German team. The likes of Muller and Ozil are young only in age. Next year will be their second international tournament, and everything so far illustrates they have the right temperament to deal with this responsibility. Added to the fact they regularly play extremely important matches in the Champions league and the national league. Same for Neuer and Khedira (even if by the looks of it, his place is under pressure).

Considering there are then older players in the squad with more experience, Podolski, Schweinsteiger, Mertesacker, new younger players should be able to fit in seamlessly.

well müller is already proven world class, they dont need more hype from me Very Happy

i always search for the next özils and müllers Ale

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Post by Hlebagone on Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:11 am

Um, that isn't particularly impressive.

First good finish, second quite nice, and the third is a keeper error.
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Post by Ä on Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:46 am

Hlebagone wrote:

Also illustrates why I don't agree with Otto's desire to have more experience in the German team. The likes of Muller and Ozil are young only in age. Next year will be their second international tournament, and everything so far illustrates they have the right temperament to deal with this responsibility. Added to the fact they regularly play extremely important matches in the Champions league and the national league. Same for Neuer and Khedira (even if by the looks of it, his place is under pressure).

Considering there are then older players in the squad with more experience, Podolski, Schweinsteiger, Mertesacker, new younger players should be able to fit in seamlessly.

yesterday, against Austria, Khedira was SHIT yet again

so was Özil

ditto Neuer

I have yet to watch one decent game by Özil or Khedira over 90 minutes for Germany since the World Cup

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Post by blutgraetsche on Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:27 pm

Khedira just came back from injury, hadn't played in six weeks. What a bullshit comment really, even by your standards. Özil, like most of the team, had a bad match yesterday, so singling him out makes even less sense.

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