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Top 30 average attendances in Europe 2010/2011

Post by blutgraetsche on Thu May 26, 2011 12:49 am

Average home attendances 2010/2011 (league):

01. FC Barcelona (Spain) 79,192
02. Borussia Dortmund (Germany) 79,141
03. Manchester United (England) 74,989
04. Real Madrid (Spain) 69,737
05. Bayern München (Germany) 69,000
06. Schalke 04 (Germany) 61,401
07. Arsenal (England) 60,023
08. Inter Milan (Italy) 55,813
09. Hamburger SV (Germany) 54,447
10. A.C. Milan (Italy) 53,922
11. Olympique Marseille (France) 51,086
12. Celtic (Scotland) 48,968
13. 1.FC Köln (Germany) 47,800
14. Newcastle United (England) 47,718
15. Eintracht Frankfurt (Germany) 47,359
16. Ajax Amsterdam (Netherlands) 47,316
17. 1.FC Kaiserslautern (Germany) 46,339
18. Manchester City (England) 45,942
19. S.S.C. Napoli (Italy) 45,608
20. Rangers (Scotland) 45,305
21. Borussia Mönchengladbach (Germany) 45,153
22. Hannover 96 (Germany) 43,919
23. Liverpool FC (England) 42,824
24. 1.FC Nürnberg (Germany) 42,020
25. Feyenoord Rotterdam (Netherlands) 41,794
26. Chelsea (England) 41,435
27. Valencia CF (Spain) 41,095
28. Atletico Madrid (Spain) 40,579
29. Sunderland AFC (England) 40,011
30. VfB Stuttgart (Germany) 38,665

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/fans/barca-im-europa-vergleich-vor-dortmund-18051680.bild.html

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Post by Glenarch of the Glen on Thu May 26, 2011 12:51 am

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Post by Hem fet un.. on Thu May 26, 2011 8:06 am

As always hats off to the Bundesliga clubs and an honorable mention to the 2 Milano clubs that seem to have improved quite a bit..

Would be interesting to see the percentages.. Barça is running at 90% full (which can seem half empty) but some of the clubs on the list must have been near to a 100%.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu May 26, 2011 12:43 pm

Dortmund is basically 99-100% full all the time. Their stadium capacity for league games is 80,720 (which includes stands - in European games, they are not allowed and hence the total capacity is reduced to 65,614). The same applies to Bayern and all the other German teams listed.

Werder rebuilt their stadium this season and hence the total capacity was reduced. We should make that list again next year (total capacity around 40,000).

What's interesting to me is that only one French club is in the list. France will modernise their stadiums for 2016 though, so this might change in the coming years. I also expected at least one Portuguese club in the list, knowing that they have relatively big and modern stadia there.
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Post by Ä on Thu May 26, 2011 1:05 pm

Werder will NOT be back in the top 20 in next years

your stadium is simply TOO small

remember, Stuttgart will have a 60.000 capacity stadium next year

and Hertha Berlin will be back as well

even if Frankfurt drop out of this list, and maybe they can still reach 40.000+ in the 2n Bundesliga

who knows

NOT extending the Weserstadium to 50.000 was a MASSIVE cock-up by Allofs, if you ask me
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu May 26, 2011 1:12 pm

Not Allofs, but the president at that time and especially the guy who was directly responsible for the 'modernisation' of the Weserstadion, Müller. We now have solar panels and cosy VIP lounges and no running track anymore, but haven't gained a single seat. This is a disaster indeed, but Allofs isn't fully to blame for that one, the decisions were made before he took over.

If we sell out our home games, which we still should despite increasing ticket prices and a shit season behind us (~40,000 is simply not enough for a big club like Werder, which we are despite some idiot fans lying to themselves about it as an excuse), we will make that list again. The total capacity of the new Weserstadion is 42,500.
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Post by Calidad on Thu May 26, 2011 2:58 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Dortmund is basically 99-100% full all the time. Their stadium capacity for league games is 80,720 (which includes stands - in European games, they are not allowed and hence the total capacity is reduced to 65,614). The same applies to Bayern and all the other German teams listed.

Werder rebuilt their stadium this season and hence the total capacity was reduced. We should make that list again next year (total capacity around 40,000).

What's interesting to me is that only one French club is in the list. France will modernise their stadiums for 2016 though, so this might change in the coming years. I also expected at least one Portuguese club in the list, knowing that they have relatively big and modern stadia there.

Yea surprised not to see Porto or Benfica there.
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Post by Calidad on Thu May 26, 2011 2:58 pm

No Turkish clubs either.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu May 26, 2011 3:03 pm

Average attendances in Turkey aren't that great really. Stadia are packed for the derbies, but that's about it.

Here's a top 67 list from the 2008-2009 season:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_attendances_of_European_football_clubs

Both Porto and Fenerbahçe had lower average attendances than Werder, for example, despite their stadia having a maximum capacity of over 50,000. Werder's stadium capacity was around 41,000 back then.
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Post by debaser on Thu May 26, 2011 3:41 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Dortmund is basically 99-100% full all the time. Their stadium capacity for league games is 80,720 (which includes stands - in European games, they are not allowed and hence the total capacity is reduced to 65,614). The same applies to Bayern and all the other German teams listed.

Question: what sorta % of the capacity in those on the list tend to be standing?

It'd be great if they brought terraces back in England, but no-one political wants to stick their neck out to allow it again.

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Post by A & K on Thu May 26, 2011 3:43 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Dortmund is basically 99-100% full all the time. Their stadium capacity for league games is 80,720 (which includes stands - in European games, they are not allowed and hence the total capacity is reduced to 65,614). The same applies to Bayern and all the other German teams listed.

Werder rebuilt their stadium this season and hence the total capacity was reduced. We should make that list again next year (total capacity around 40,000).

What's interesting to me is that only one French club is in the list. France will modernise their stadiums for 2016 though, so this might change in the coming years. I also expected at least one Portuguese club in the list, knowing that they have relatively big and modern stadia there.

Yes, only Marseille has a big stadium in France (60 000), Lyon had a poor season otherwise the average should have been 42 000, Lens or Paris should both be around 40 000, both Lens got relegated and Paris' supporters have been banned.
Lille will have a brand new stadium (50 000), Marseille (70-80k) and other bigger stadiums will be built as well. Right now, most of the stadiums are pretty crap compared to Germany or England.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu May 26, 2011 3:45 pm

debaser wrote:
Question: what sorta % of the capacity in those on the list tend to be standing?

It'd be great if they brought terraces back in England, but no-one political wants to stick their neck out to allow it again.

The famous 'Südtribüne' stands of Dortmund's Westfalenstadion have a capacity of almost 25,000 (24.454 to be exact), the biggest in Europe. So in Dortmund's case, that's roughly 30% of the total capacity. Guess the figures for the other German stadia are similar.

They should bring the terraces back in England. The fans should fight for them as they did in Germany. Should reduce the average ticket prices, too.
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Post by Isco Benny on Thu May 26, 2011 4:19 pm

They will NEVER bring terraces back in England. Not even if very football fan in England came out onto the streets and re enacted the Brixton riots. That is what 96 dead scousers does.

What would be a more interesting statistic than this would be the average % capacity per club / league.

I'd be particularly interested in seeing those stats for English clubs. I know that our 36,000 stadium is full every game, there's a 6 year long season ticket waiting list. However, I understand than Man City's Eastlands stadium is not full every game, and neither is Sunderland's Stadium of Light.

Basically I want stats to prove we're better fans than them Ale
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Post by debaser on Thu May 26, 2011 4:29 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:
debaser wrote:
Question: what sorta % of the capacity in those on the list tend to be standing?

It'd be great if they brought terraces back in England, but no-one political wants to stick their neck out to allow it again.

The famous 'Südtribüne' stands of Dortmund's Westfalenstadion have a capacity of almost 25,000 (24.454 to be exact), the biggest in Europe. So in Dortmund's case, that's roughly 30% of the total capacity. Guess the figures for the other German stadia are similar.

They should bring the terraces back in England. The fans should fight for them as they did in Germany. Should reduce the average ticket prices, too.

There have been campaigns, but it is kinda different situation here - far more political. Germany never had an equivalent of Hillsborough incident. No-one in Government wants to touch the issue - it comes up every couple years and gets brushed aside.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu May 26, 2011 4:47 pm

But Germany did have some significant Hooligan problems, too, which still exist in the lower leagues, especially in the East.

Thing is, this is political indeed, but not in the sense as you describe it. The fans in Germany have simply a lot more power over their clubs than their English counterparts. The ownership structures and regulations allow them considerably more influence on the actual club policies. The clubs didn't give them that power voluntarily, they fought for it.
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Post by debaser on Thu May 26, 2011 4:53 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:But Germany did have some significant Hooligan problems, too, which still exist in the lower leagues, especially in the East.

Thing is, this is political indeed, but not in the sense as you describe it. The fans in Germany have simply a lot more power over their clubs than their English counterparts. The ownership structures and regulations allow them considerably more influence on the actual club policies. The clubs didn't give them that power voluntarily, they fought for it.

Not talking about Hooligan problems here. Recap: Hillsborough disaster - 96 people died - blamed on unsafe terracing/fencing - terraces banned by government. Even if English fans had as much power over their clubs, they couldn't alter the law on this. It can only change if government allow it and they have no incentive to do so. If they as much as mention it, you get some mother of someone who died at Hillsborough popping up on TV to condemn them.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu May 26, 2011 5:02 pm

But Hillsborough was a catastrophe of European proportions. It had serious consequences for European football in general, not just English football. There is a reason why stands aren't allowed in European matches anymore, for example.

After Hillsborough, there was serious pressure in Germany to abandon the stands, too, but the fans fought for them. If the club structures had been different, I'm sure that we would have lost the terraces, too.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu May 26, 2011 5:11 pm

Noah und der Bale wrote:
I'd be particularly interested in seeing those stats for English clubs. I know that our 36,000 stadium is full every game, there's a 6 year long season ticket waiting list. However, I understand than Man City's Eastlands stadium is not full every game, and neither is Sunderland's Stadium of Light.

Basically I want stats to prove we're better fans than them Ale

That's easy, if you're not lazy. Just check out the second, Wikipedia link I posted and click on each stadium to compare the maximum capacity to the average attendances.

Lazy islanders... Grr
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Post by debaser on Thu May 26, 2011 5:22 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:But Hillsborough was a catastrophe of European proportions. It had serious consequences for European football in general, not just English football. There is a reason why stands aren't allowed in European matches anymore, for example.

After Hillsborough, there was serious pressure in Germany to abandon the stands, too, but the fans fought for them. If the club structures had been different, I'm sure that we would have lost the terraces, too.

Yes, Hillsborough had ramifications beyond England, but you're being wilfully obtuse if you can't see that the fact it happened in England makes it far more of a political issue in England than anywhere else.

If the disaster had happened in Dortmund rather than Sheffield, I'm sure you would have lost terraces too, regardless of fan power/club structures.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu May 26, 2011 5:41 pm

And your last sentence is exactly what I doubt. Yes, it would have been different if it happened in Germany, but I still do believe that the fans would have prevented a ban of terraces. And most importantly, even if there had been a ban, they would have the means to lift it now, which the English fans don't.
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Post by Isco Benny on Thu May 26, 2011 6:02 pm

I'm not sure what to make of this. I accept that perhaps Blut may have this view that EPL fans sit back and take it as the clubs rape them off everything they can get their hands on when the cost of attending a Premier League game is probably 3 or 4 times that of one in the Bundesliga, but the suggestion that we are such subordinate weaklings that we could have fought for the return of terracing is just mental.

You must not understand the impact of Hillsborough and the Taylor Report in this country, at a time when the English league was also desperate to reinvent itself after 4 year ban thanks to Heysel. Germany has never had anything like such an obstacle to overcome. The number one priority was to make the league fan friendly, which in turn brings in the revenues and the marketability to a wider audience. That included making it family friendly, more kids, more women, more black people - the lot. And the quickest way to do this was for all stadia to conform as all seater, get rid of the notorious terraces, improve segregation, lose the fences, impose ban on taking alcohol out of the bar areas etc.

The changes have been a phenomenal success - going to a Premier League game these days is safer than a day out at Disneyland. The clubs like it, Sky like it, the majority of fans accept it as it's an improvement on the old days. If it means that hooliganism and deaths at football games are now a thing of the past, that blokes can now take their kids or wives or girlfriends knowing they'll be safe, then you cannot expect people to be rushing out to campaign to bring back the terraces.

Germany is a different beast - you've had your hooliganism, but never to the extent in England, nor have you had people die because of the terraces. You cannot compare
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu May 26, 2011 6:14 pm

Have you ever been to a German league game Bernd? Despite the terraces, it's arguably a whole lot more 'family friendly' than your average English match even. Terraces and family friedliness are not mutually exclusive, on the contrary. Only the cheacp ticket prices for the stands allow young fans to watch their team live. That's the reason why the average age of the fans in English stadia is increasing - kids simply can't afford to buy the tickets, or dads for their children for that matter.

I never said that English fans are weak and love to get fucked over by their clubs. However, their position is a whole lot weaker due to the club structures which they seem to accept, or have you ever seen an outcry of Chelsea fans about their club becoming an amusement for a Russian billionaire?

50+1 ownership rules, terraces, low ticket prices. All these things have been fought for by German fans and their representatives, they didn't get them for free.
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Post by debaser on Thu May 26, 2011 8:06 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Have you ever been to a German league game Bernd? Despite the terraces, it's arguably a whole lot more 'family friendly' than your average English match even. Terraces and family friedliness are not mutually exclusive, on the contrary. Only the cheacp ticket prices for the stands allow young fans to watch their team live. That's the reason why the average age of the fans in English stadia is increasing - kids simply can't afford to buy the tickets, or dads for their children for that matter.

I never said that English fans are weak and love to get fucked over by their clubs. However, their position is a whole lot weaker due to the club structures which they seem to accept, or have you ever seen an outcry of Chelsea fans about their club becoming an amusement for a Russian billionaire?

50+1 ownership rules, terraces, low ticket prices. All these things have been fought for by German fans and their representatives, they didn't get them for free.

So what you're saying is, er, it's a different situation in Germany. As Bernd said. Sure, I'd like many of the things you list to be the same here, but I also wish I was little bit taller and wish I was a baller.

Okay: German fans are the bestest and smartest and bravest and most wonderfulest in existence. Happy now?
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu May 26, 2011 8:09 pm

No. You should have said the most loyal, mature and likeable. That's why I'll just continue to harass you.

The situation is different because the fans want it to be different. You apparently don't.
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Post by Fey on Thu May 26, 2011 8:12 pm

Ahhhh it's ''Germany is awesom-0 hour'' again!

Sure, you pay cheap ass tickets, then again the average bundesliga game is a lot worse then the average EPL game, I'm unbiased cause I have all the leagues on tv anyway.

To get back to the attendances, it's flawed. Take the jews for example, all the tickets are sold. But their average game, when nothing can be won, looks like this:



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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu May 26, 2011 8:17 pm

How is it flawed Fey? Average attendances actually show you very easily if a club manages to sell out their stadium regularly or not. If you have a 50,000 seater stadium and average attendances of say 30,000, you obviously don't. Simple maths, Fey.

Don't be bitter about Ajax having higher average attendances than your lot. That's what success does.

Re "cheap ass ticket prices": I bet that with the exception of England, the ticket prices elsewhere are not higher than they are in Germany, including Holland. In Italy, the ticket prices have only increased by a meagre 0.3% over the last 15 years, for example.
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Post by debaser on Thu May 26, 2011 8:23 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:No. You should have said the most loyal, mature and likeable. That's why I'll just continue to harass you.

The situation is different because the fans want it to be different. You apparently don't.

Likeable? I have my limits Smiley
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu May 26, 2011 8:25 pm

P.S.: If you're 'unbiased' Fey, I'm a frickin Holland supporter. The cheek...

Whatever, some random purist porn to destroy that "a lot worse" nonsense:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wze2bZnP9Vs

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Post by Fey on Thu May 26, 2011 8:33 pm

attendance [əˈtɛndəns]

1. the act or state of attending
2. the number of persons present an attendance
3. Obsolete attendants collectively; retinue

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if 50k people buy a ticket but dont show up...THEY DONT ATTEND ANYTHING! But the stadium will say it's sold out!

VERSTEHE SIE DASS? or am I speaking chinese? And a few thousand supporters between a title winning club and a club fighting relegation..imagine if it was the other way around!

As for the cheap Bundesliga tickets, very great and all but even a packed house during Nurnberg v Freiburg wont stop me from flipping it to another channel. Cause it's not a packed house that makes it up for the 22 local feckin runners!
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Post by Isco Benny on Thu May 26, 2011 8:58 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:No. You should have said the most loyal, mature and likeable. That's why I'll just continue to harass you.

The situation is different because the fans want it to be different. You apparently don't.

We don't want it to be different?! You don't seem to understand how bad going to a game in England used to be. It's a better experience now. No one has died which is a major improvement. Yes it's more expensive, but the removal of terraces forced clubs here to renovate their stadiums to much higher standard. Euro 96 also forced this to happen quickly, and has been directly correlated to the increased interest and success of the English league. Germany benefitted massively from the 2006 World Cup and the regeneration of it's stadia. Just as the Taylor Report did here. Without either, we'd probably see more stadia like in France and Italy which are dilapidated and hardly enticing to football fans.

This argument is rather pointless anyway, because even with the higher ticket prices and all seater stadiums, most English clubs still sell out every week. And not even in the Premier League, go down a division and you see major attendances in the first division, infact the highest attendances of any second tier division in the World, and was the 4th highest attended league in Europe in 2004-2005, higher than France's Ligue 1 and Italy's Serie A. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_League_Championship. When you have that demand, it's no surprise the clubs are in no rush to lower the prices.

We love our football, even if we have to fork out a lot for it. If anything, it shows we're even more hooked on the sport than you lot. So don't be waving your bratwurst in this direction sonny jim Ale Laughing

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