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Re: Bundesliga 2012

Post by Black Magic on Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:18 pm

i have never seen a goal like that. Must have touched at least 4 leverkusen players on its way in
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Post by Murray on Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:55 pm

Awesome chip by Raul

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Post by christmasborocooper on Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:16 pm

seleccion
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Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:45 pm

Crappy away game we shouldn't have lost. Business as usual.
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Post by Isco Benny on Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:49 pm

What's this that's been going on in the Bundesgrubben?

http://www.goal.com/en/news/15/germany/2011/07/20/2583204/bayern-munich-ultras-issue-manuel-neuer-code-of-conduct

Bayern have repeatedly condemned protests against the Germany No. 1, but some fans still insist that the 25-year-old, who spent most of his life at Schalke, does not belong at the club.

Various fan groups issued a statement last week revealing their willingness to accept the player, provided he abide by their terms. Now their demands have been made public.

The rules are reportedly as follows:

1) Neuer must never simulate or initiate the team's megaphone chants.

2) Neuer must not kneel before the team and sing the 'Humba' song.

3) Neuer is prohibited from approaching the South Stand fence.

4) Neuer should not throw his shirt into the South Stand.

5) Neuer may not kiss the Bavarian crest

The code's release follows a reported meeting between Neuer, Bayern bosses and the representatives organising protests against the goalkeeper.

The Neuer has pledged to remain professional and brush off protests, but after making a major gaffe in Tuesday's 2-1 loss to Hamburg, it appears that he may struggle to keep his word.


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I can honestly say I've never heard anything like this happen before. Club fans hating players who've left them,

but hating ones that have joined them based on where they've come from? Das ist LunaSie
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Post by debaser on Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:17 pm

Noah und der Bale wrote:2) Neuer must not kneel before the team and sing the 'Humba' song.

lol! lol! lol!
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Post by Murray on Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:20 pm

Noah und der Bale wrote:

I can honestly say I've never heard anything like this happen before. Club fans hating players who've left them,

but hating ones that have joined them based on where they've come from? Das ist LunaSie

You obviously don't remember when Mo Johnston joined Rangers, their fans were burning their season tickets & he had to live in Edinburgh because Glasgow was too dangerous.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:20 pm

You can't beat the system

August 16, 2011

By Uli Hesse


Somehow I doubt he thinks about this day very often, but I once played football against Nuri Sahin - and won. It's not like we were playing in opposing teams in some scribes- versus-soccer-stars charity extravaganza. No, it was a proper one-on-one: just him and me and a ball and one of those "Torwand" contraptions. (A target wall with two holes.)

I guess this contest proved that the mental aspect of football is indeed crucial, for I came out on top mainly because I was calm and assured while Sahin was shy and a bit nervous. Which is perfectly understandable, given he was just 17-years-old and had been playing in the comparative anonymity of Borussia Dortmund's Under-16 side only a handful of months earlier.

At that time, people hoped Sahin would become another Andreas Moller or Tomas Rosicky, a set-up man with goal-scoring abilities in offensive midfield. But over the next couple of years, his development couldn't keep pace with people's expectations. In a quite literal sense, too: more than just a few observers kept complaining that Sahin was too slow to ever become the pivot man in the hole, the trequartista the club was looking for.

All this changed on a December day in 2008, when Dortmund were playing against Gladbach at home. At half-time, coach Jurgen Klopp did an unusual thing. Even though Dortmund were having problems breaking down a very defensive opponent, he brought on Sahin for one of his two strikers and played him alongside the Brazilian Tinga in front of the back four, which effectively changed the system from a 4-4-2 with the diamond formation in midfield to a 4-2-3-1. (Or 4-2-2-1-1, as it is sometimes given because the central offensive midfielder usually pushes forward.)

For many months, this game was an isolated experiment, as Dortmund didn't really switch to the new system with Sahin as one of two holding midfielders - a "No. 6", as we refer to this position in Germany - until the autumn of 2009, but it was an important moment in retrospect, and not just for this club and this particular player.

In the winter of 2008, there were quite a few formations and systems to be found in the Bundesliga. Wolfsburg already used the system Klopp tried, but with two strictly defensive No. 6s; Hoffenheim also had two holding midfielders and three forwards; Stuttgart played two No. 6s and two strikers upfront; Leverkusen, Hamburg and Bremen had only one man in front of the back four and two forwards; at Bayern, Jurgen Klinsmann fielded two strikers but, for all the changes he'd set out to make, stuck to an inspired decision of his predecessor Ottmar Hitzfeld and used the former winger Ze Roberto as a holding midfielder.

It's no accident that it was Hitzfeld who hit upon the idea of pairing a ball-winner like Mark van Bommel with a man who had the positional sense of a defender but also the playmaking qualities of an attacker. A decade earlier, at Dortmund, he had first pulled the midfielder Matthias Sammer back into the sweeper position behind two man-to-man markers and had then pushed him forward again, so that Sammer roamed in front of the centre-backs and was basically a playmaker in disguise. (At about the same time, people like Edgar Davids, Didier Deschamps or Fernando Redondo also re-defined the position in front of the backline, though in different formations.)

Things were still quite colourful and varied when the next season kicked off, in the summer of 2009. Bremen used a diamond formation in midfield (moving Mesut Ozil from the wing into the trequartista role behind two strikers) that was very much in vogue. Bayern, under Louis van Gaal, first played 4-4-2 before switching to 4-3-3. Mainz and Nuremberg took a fancy to 4-1-4-1.

But then there was a seismic shift that happened astonishingly abruptly. In September/October, as mentioned, Klopp settled on the system with two holding midfielders (one of them basically a ball winner, the other a creative player), three offensive midfielders with the central one often playing in the hole and one striker up front.

At the same time, Joachim Low made the same change to the national team's formation. In September, in a friendly match with South Africa, he fielded Michael Ballack and Simon Rolfes as the holding midfielders and told Ozil to pull the strings behind a lone striker upfront. Low felt so confident with this new set-up that he also used it, to great effect, in a crucial World Cup qualifier in Moscow in October.

Two months later, Van Gaal pulled Bastian Schweinsteiger from the wing into the position in front of the back four and paired him with Van Bommel. Like Sahin, Schweinsteiger had always been an offensive midfielder (and had always been accused of lacking pace) but blossomed in this new role so much that he was visibly unhappy when the idiosyncratic Van Gaal tried to use him as an attacker again one winter on.

Now, less than two years later, it's safe to say this system has won. This past weekend, ten Bundesliga teams used it outright and most others played a variation. It has become quite rare to encounter a lone holding midfielder like Bremen's Clemens Fritz, let alone that nearly extinct beast - the classic midfield flat-four in a traditional 4-4-2.

Which, I think, is what Cologne's new coach Stale Solbakken is trying to teach his team. I can't be entirely sure about this, because I have yet to attend a Cologne game in person. So far, I have to base my judgement on what I see on television, hear from the players and read in magazines. The Monday edition of kicker, for instance, headlined "System Crash" and carried a harrowing Solbakken quote, who explained his side's 5-1 drubbing away at Schalke by saying: "Five players have done what they played in the last years, five have tried to play my system - that is not good."

The system of "the last years" Solbakken was speaking about is, of course, the now ubiquitous 4-2-3-1. Cologne often used it last season, with various duos in the space between the back four and midfield and Lukas Podolski playing behind the lone striker Milivoje Novakovic.

In a way, the 4-2-3-1 is symptomatic of a general trend towards more offensive and risky football, because it lends itself to a pressing game deep in the opponent's half that is physically and mentally demanding but highly effective.

A weakness, however, is that it's sometimes difficult to help your full-backs when they come under pressure, because everybody who is supposed to help them - the wide forwards and the holding midfielders - have a lot of ground to cover before they can get there. It sounds paradoxical, but that might explain why Cologne are now having such problems on the wings despite having gone back to 4-4-2: the wide men in midfield keep leaving gaps because they are used to one of the holding midfielders closing them. When this midfielder instead keeps his position ... well, then that is "not good".

Isn't it strange that a formation which was once only rarely seen in the league has spread like wildfire and become the de facto norm, regardless of the personnel the coaches have at their disposal, in less than two seasons? So much so that some players now have grave problems adapting to a different system?

And it's not just the case in Germany. While only few teams, such as Portugal and France, played 4-2-3-1 at the 2006 World Cup, it was the undisputed star of the tournament four years later in South Africa. And countless clubs now play it.

Like Real Madrid, for instance, where Jose Mourinho has used Sami Khedira and Xabi Alonso as the holding midfielders. If Mourinho maintains this system, Sahin should feel right at home.

Five years ago, when I scored more from the spot with a little plastic ball than he did, I'd never thought he'd one day run out for Real. Then again, I would've never envisioned him as a defensive midfielder in those days, back before the 4-2-3-1.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/944258/you-can%27t-beat-the-system?cc=5739
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Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:34 pm

A little correction I have to add: The first time Löw tried the 4-2-3-1 system was in the knock-out stages of Euro 2008 against Portugal. Back then Ballack played in the 'hole' behind the strikers, Schweinsteiger and Podolski on the wing positions, and Özil wasn't even a German international yet. It worked pretty well and has been the de-facto standard system of die Nationalmannschaft ever since.

So basically Löw was the first German coach to 'endorse' the 4-2-3-1 system that has become so popular these days.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:56 am

Ståle Solbakken already under pressure as defeat leaves Köln bottom

A disconnect between grand ideas on the bench and on-pitch realities is a big problem in a league that wants instant evolution

Before the match, Ralf Rangnick and Ståle Solbakken had a lot in common. Both managed teams that were 17th – and last – in the table, jointly on zero points, zero goals scored and three conceded. Their opening defeats – Schalke's loss at Stuttgart and Köln's destruction at the hands of Wolfsburg in the Rhein-Energie-Stadion – were so bad that their future in the job was questioned by some sections of the German media. Both seemed to face a simple but insurmountable problem: their conceptual approach to tactics jarred with highly individualistic or, in places, randomly put-together squads.

A disconnect between grand ideas on the bench and much more mundane realities on the pitch is fast becoming a common problem in a league that wants instant evolution. Everyone is keen to emulate Jürgen Klopp's superb Dortmund team without having the appropriate hardware or patience to do so. A significant part of the Bundesliga's entertainment factor this year can be attributed to these structural schisms, the results of which make for Frankenesque oddities. Think – if you dare – puppies infused with T-Rex DNA, chimps who labour under the delusion that they're a flock of migrating geese or particularly unfortunate Wolpertingers.

Schalke v Köln promised plenty of freak-show action in that respect and did not disappoint. The visitors were at first brilliantly efficient to take the lead while the Schalke defender Christoph Metzelder was receiving treatment off the pitch – Lukas Podolski finished off the slick counterattacking move. Afterwards, their two rows of fours moved in almost perfect unison, "as if the players were connected by invisible sticks" (Kölner Stadt-Anzeiger), a bit like Milan's fabled "accordion" in the Sacchi days, even. Alas, those sticks were shattered and the music stopped completely when Schalke were awarded a penalty shortly before the break. Klaas-Jan Huntelaar equalised from the spot after Kevin McKenna had handled the ball in the box.

Cue discontent, outrage and a total lapse of tactical discipline after the restart. Köln stopped running, playing and functioning altogether as Schalke, by no means superb, ran riot. Lewis Holtby scored his first goal for the Royal Blues, Huntelaar completed a hat-trick and Raúl chipped Michael Rensing from a few metres out – a classic, nonchalant effort that will feature heavily in "best of season" lists come May 2012. "I expect nothing less of him, he converts six out of eight of those in training every day," Holtby said. "He's world-class."

"Total system failure" was Stadt-Anzeiger's verdict. Solbakken, to his credit, did not hide behind platitudes. "The whole team [set-up] wasn't right, therefore the manager is to blame," the Norwegian said. "Inside this feels like hell for me, it's a catastrophe. Next week, there will be lots of pressure from the supporters and the media." The 43-year-old said he continues to believe in his concept but is unsure how quickly he will be able to implement it successfully. "It's hard to tell when the system will start working," the former Copenhagen manager said. "There's no other way but it has to be quick. As long as I'm here, we will follow this plan. That's why the club bought me. There won't be a compromise."

Solbakken's past success and reports from Denmark suggest that he belongs to the gang of young, smart and technically minded managers who are increasingly making their mark on European football. It is questionable, however, if Köln, with its toxic mix of tabloid power, supporter daydreams and at times less than committed playing staff is the right club for such a radical, long-term strategy. Stadt-Anzeiger wondered whether such an experiment might not be better suited to the fourth division, a league without relegation this season. "The players don't fit the system, there are no alternatives in the key positions and there's a lack of character in the team", wrote the tabloid. The fact that Podolski, the deposed captain, finished the game with the least amount of ground covered of all Köln players (9.5km) was only marginally less surprising than Cesc Fábregas's move to Barcelona.

The sporting director Volker Finke, who made his name with Valeriy Lobanovskiy-inspired pressing and passing football at Freiburg in the 1990s, seemed genuinely shocked by proceedings. "I won't comment on what went wrong, that's the manager's job," the 63-year-old said. "The situation is more than annoying. But it was obvious that it would take time to put new team tactics into place. It's too early for the big, global questions." It surely is, but that won't stop Köln posing them anyway – if the team lose against Kaiserslautern next weekend. Solbakken might not have taken enough care to check out his employers but he is obviously a man au fait with the strange customs of the Bundesliga. "See you next week," one journalist said on Saturday; "I hope so," came the reply, with a wry smile.

Talking points

• The emphatic win gave Ralf Rangnick a bit of breathing space. But the lingering conflict with Raúl is far from resolved. The 34-year-old is unhappy about having to play deeper and missed the good old days under Felix Magath, who gave the striker plenty of freedom as well as preferential treatment off the pitch. There is no more talk about an extension of his contract, no more partying with the fans, no more interviews with the German media. Raúl has refused to take a seat on the team council in a move that has been interpreted as a goodbye gesture. "The diva wants to get off," wrote Bild. Blackburn Rovers are rumoured to be preparing a bid but Venky's must be careful: in contrast to all the Rovers owners' other half-hearted, PR-driven bids this one would actually stand a good chance of being accepted, at least as far as Schalke are concerned.

• Robin Dutt has similar problems with another great in the twilight of his career: Michael Ballack. The new Leverkusen manager has talked himself into a corner over the decision to rotate Ballack and Simon Rolfes in central midfield, sending out mixed messages that have left everyone a little miffed. "It's an honour to sit on Bayer's bench," Dutt said, a view that is shared by neither player. Against Werder, Ballack started but was fairly anonymous. Rolfes came on for the former Chelsea player with seven minutes to go and turned provider for Michal Kadlec's winner two minutes later. "We don't just have a superb first XI but a fantastic bench, too," Rolfes said diplomatically. "Individual feelings are not important." They will be, one suspects, once the Champions League comes around. Werder found a simple explanation for the 1-0 defeat, by the way. "The last bit of horniness was missing," declared Per Mertesacker, who is still waiting for Arsène Wenger's call.

• A flukey last-minute goal by Bayern Munich to win a game, after a less than sparkling performance? Unbelievable, Jeff. Jupp Heynckes's team only avoided two barren opening matches when Luiz Gustavo squeezed a shot past the Wolfsburg goalkeeper, Diego Benaglio, in stoppage time. The win gave Bayern plenty of licence to go into raptures over their "winning mentality" but there was little to impress the neutrals: the visitors struggled to cope with Felix Magath's muscular pressing game and created next to nothing in the final third. On the plus side, there was no dodgy facial hair whatsoever from Manuel Neuer and no wobbles either as the Bayern back four played one of its more convincing matches in living memory.

• After a buildup that was completely dominated by Mario Götze's fine performance for the national team against Brazil, Dortmund somehow managed to lose a match that they completely dominated, too (Götze looked a little tired, though). The Hoffenheim midfielder Sejad Salihovic scored with a 33m free-kick rocket that left Roman Weidenfeller clasping at thin air. "I don't know about the other goals that were scored today but this one will be hard to beat," Jürgen Klopp said. His colleague, Holger Stanislawski, professed to drinking "five or six bottles" – of water, one hopes – and sweating his heart out on the touchline. But the final whistle may not have been the end of the matter. In a remarkable development, away supporters alleged that their section was targeted by a high-pitch noise that piped up every time they were singing abusive anti-Hoffenheim songs (There is plenty of ill-feeling between the clubs after the Borussia chief executive Hans-Joachim Watzke criticised 1899's business model – their reliance on a wealthy benefactor – last year). "It was a very loud, shrieking sound," Dortmund's supporter liaison officer told Ruhrnachrichten. A fan captured the alleged offending noise on a video(at 4:00), and charges have been pressed with police. "We are totally surprised," Hoffenheim said. "No one had any knowledge of this." The club later said one fan had brought "a very loud horn" into the stadium. On Monday afternoon, Hoffenheim said an employee had confessed to installing a noise apparatus "without authorisation". "[The club] distances itself from this action and apologises to all football fans," Hoffenheim said. "The man was not aware of the magnitude of his actions, which was meant to be playful in nature." Hmm. "Those who insult me over the course of 90 minutes shouldn't be so touchy," Hoffenheim's sugar daddy Dietmar Hopp said dismissively. If the noise was indeed played in by the speaker system, however, Dortmund might well have grounds to challenge the result: Bundesliga regulations prohibit the emittance of any sound in open play.

Results: Hoffenheim 1-0 Dortmund, Schalke 5-1 Köln, Gladbach 1-1 Stuttgart, Wolfsburg 0-1 Bayern, Hamburg 2-2 Hertha, Nürnberg 1-2 Hannover, Freiburg 1-2 Mainz, Leverkusen 1-0 Bremen, Kaiserslautern 1-1 Augsburg.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/aug/15/stale-solbakken-pressure-koln-bottom

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Re: Bundesliga 2012

Post by Xavier on Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:54 pm

Reus is destroying EVERYTHING against Gladbach... 4-1!
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Post by blutgraetsche on Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:12 pm

Reus Blush

When will we finally see him in a Germany shirt? This kid is ridiculous, just ridiculous. The consistency of his performances is what impresses me most. Awesome prospect!

Favre is really an excellent coach. I knew that Gladbach would have a much better season this time with him in charge. He saved them from relegation when nobody thought it to be possible, and has now formed a truly remarkable team. This is the guy finished 4th with Hertha (!) for Christ's sake! I can see Gladbach qualifying for Europe this season, not kidding.
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Post by Xavier on Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:26 pm

Hey, don't be slagging the old lady, haha...

Yeah, by the looks of the early stages, you certainly were right about Gladbach... they're not only getting the positive results, either; the way that they are performing is even more promising!
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Post by blutgraetsche on Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:07 pm

Second Reus goal:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL2jJa7k8bg

'Playstation' footie by Gladbach indeed... Ale
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Post by blutgraetsche on Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:10 pm

All goals / highlights:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGxT8OXnWsg

Why Roma want to sign Kjaer is a mystery to me...

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Post by Sheffield gunner on Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:02 pm

Leverkusen lead in Stuttgart. Mistake from Ulreich who parried a shot back to Kießling rather than away from goal.

Bayern are already leading Hamburg 3-0.
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Post by Antarion on Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:30 pm

Hamburg are shit, should have lost against Berlin too. I wonder why they went with their coach after he was pretty deissapointing last season since his arrival. First one to be sacked imo.

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Post by Sheffield gunner on Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:17 pm

Great game in Bremen, where they have converted a late penalty to lead 4-3. Bayern are 5-0 up, with Olic getting the most recent goal. I'd forgotten he was there; presumably he has just come back from a long injury.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:13 pm

Vintage Werder Bremen match. Great attacking football, a lot of goals, comedy defending, tension, comebacks, everything. Excellent entertainment for the neutral, heart attacks en masse for the fans.

Last season, we had lost the attacking football and goal scoring part. Been a while I was so entertained by my team, hopefully more to come. The real Werder is back!





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YevuZ4s6JI



It goes without saying that we can't afford that kind of defending against stronger opposition, but Freiburg were pretty strong today.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:29 pm

Antarion wrote:Hamburg are shit, should have lost against Berlin too. I wonder why they went with their coach after he was pretty deissapointing last season since his arrival. First one to be sacked imo.

Don't rate Oenning at all and agree that he will probably be the first coach to get the sack. Hamburg are a total mess, could be a very long season for our arch rivals. No crocodile tears from me, though...
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Post by blutgraetsche on Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:30 pm

Highlights of the Bayern - HSV match. Robben's goal was pure class. Ale




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i6RNl13GnY


Bundesliga! cheers

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Re: Bundesliga 2012

Post by stinger on Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:37 pm

Surprisengly Dortmund game was quite boring, Klopp looked happy enough with a win though.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:43 pm

Yes, true. Dortmund deserved the win, but Nürnberg were better than the result suggests. They created a lot of problems for them and should have scored a goal or two. Dortmund were not as good as last season, especially defensively.

Still, Götze's assist of the first goal was class. Ale
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Post by blutgraetsche on Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:38 pm

Interesting stats of the Werder match (distance run in metres, average speed (km/h), top speed (km/h), number of sprints):

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Marko Marin   12929.9   8.28   34.02   12
Aaron Hunt   12665.68   8.14   30.85   15
Philipp Bargfrede   12218.17   7.85   28.4   9
Lukas Schmitz   11964.22   7.67   30.96   13
Per Mertesacker   11834.25   7.6   31.03   8
Andreas Wolf   11731.08   7.52   30.17   8
Sokratis   11338.98   7.27   29.77   7
Claudio Pizarro   11108.45   7.96   28.69   12
Clemens Fritz   10308.32   8.1   29.05   14
Markus Rosenberg   7610.39   7.38   30.53   11
Tim Wiese   4637.36   2.99   21.06   0
Marko Arnautovic   4213.73   7.99   29.63   5
Wesley   2390.93   8.39   30.17   3
Mehmet Ekici   1097.92   6.8   24.7   1

Marin ran the most and was the fastest player on the pitch. So much about him being too weak physically.

P.S.: I checked the other teams, and Marin actually covered the most ground of all players this weekend.

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Re: Bundesliga 2012

Post by Sheffield gunner on Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:43 pm

Mainz are leading 2-0 already against Schalke. The away side have been hopeless.
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Re: Bundesliga 2012

Post by blutgraetsche on Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:03 pm

Rangnick has pretty much ruined Schalke so far. They are not the most patient lot in Gelsenkirchen, so he better get a grip soon or he could get the sack sooner than Oenning. What a pathetic season for them so far. The thrashing they gave Köln needs to be seen in context - the Köln players were struggling to implement the new system and philosophy of their Norwegian coach.

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Re: Bundesliga 2012

Post by Sheffield gunner on Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:53 pm

2-2 now. I've just seen the equaliser, but haven't seen anything else in the second half. Not sure what Schalke have done to turn this game around.
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Re: Bundesliga 2012

Post by blutgraetsche on Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:06 pm

They've simply been a completely different team in the second half, the much better team, just like Mainz were in the first half.

It's simple really - the moment I praise or criticise a player or team, the opposite happens afterwards.

It also helped to see the crappy Jurardo and Moravek replaced by Draxler and Farfan.
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Re: Bundesliga 2012

Post by blutgraetsche on Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:12 pm

Matip scores a third goal for Schalke! Great comeback, has to be said.

Raul with two assists today after he announced that he intends to stay 'auf' Schalke. Ale

Utter idiocy not to have taken him to Helsinki by Rangnick.
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Re: Bundesliga 2012

Post by Kroos on Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:13 pm

lets hope they reach the group stage, with farfan and raul its quite possible

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