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Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Batman on Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:49 pm







Players Out:

Paul Scholes
Edwin van der Sar
Ritchie De Laet (Loan)
Bebe (Loan)


Players In:
Phil Jones


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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Allez les rouges on Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:31 pm

Doh

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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Glenarch of the Glen on Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:48 pm

Doh
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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Batman on Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:29 pm

Winger Ashley Young has signed for Manchester United from Premier League rivals Aston Villa on a five-year deal.

England international Young, 25, passed his medical with the league champions on Thursday morning.

He had been at Villa for more than four years after joining from Watford but only had one year left on his contract.

Young, who is reported to have cost United about 17m, becomes the club's second signing of the summer following the arrival of Phil Jones.
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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Sgoater1 on Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:30 pm

Batman wrote:Winger Ashley Young has signed for Manchester United from Premier League rivals Aston Villa on a five-year deal.

England international Young, 25, passed his medical with the league champions on Thursday morning.

He had been at Villa for more than four years after joining from Watford but only had one year left on his contract.

Young, who is reported to have cost United about 17m, becomes the club's second signing of the summer following the arrival of Phil Jones.


I cant believe a Young v Henderson debate hasnt started yet.

How do people expect U*d to line up next season ? will Nani and young start...might Nani go ?
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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by fcb on Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:41 pm

Sgoater1 wrote:
Batman wrote:Winger Ashley Young has signed for Manchester United from Premier League rivals Aston Villa on a five-year deal.

England international Young, 25, passed his medical with the league champions on Thursday morning.

He had been at Villa for more than four years after joining from Watford but only had one year left on his contract.

Young, who is reported to have cost United about 17m, becomes the club's second signing of the summer following the arrival of Phil Jones.


I cant believe a Young v Henderson debate hasnt started yet.

How do people expect U*d to line up next season ? will Nani and young start...might Nani go ?

What's there to be debated?
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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Luis on Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:19 pm

I cant believe a Young v Henderson debate hasnt started yet.

One is a 25 year old out and out winger who has proven himself at Villa for 4 seasons. One is a 20 year old central midfielder that can and should be utlised more on the right of midfield who has only just earned himself a place in the National side due to an impressive but not spectacular season with Sunderland. Not much to compare.



How do people expect U*d to line up next season ? will Nani and young start...might Nani go ?

---------------------De Gay-------------------------

-----Rafaelio------Smalling--------Vidic--------------Evra-------------

---------------------Carrick--------??--------------------------------

--Valencia---------------------------------------------Young-----------

---------------------------------Rooney-------------------------------

----------------------------Hernandez----------------------------------

Nani will have to be content with a place on the bench twittering with Michael Owen or will have no difficulty in finding a new club.
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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Batman on Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:18 pm

I think it would be a big mistake if we sold Nani, he is our most skillfull player.

de Gea

Fabio ---- Rio ---- Vidic ---- Evra

Fletcher --- Anderson

Valencia --- Young ---- Nani

Rooney

or

de Gea

Fabio ---- Rio ---- Vidic ---- Evra

Fletcher --- Anderson

AV/Nani --- Rooney --- Young

Chicharito


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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by A & K on Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:04 pm

Is Berba gonna stay or leave? There were rumors that he could go to P.S.G. I have no idea if this is true or not..
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Post by Sgoater1 on Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:10 am


Speaking on talkshite....

Norman Whiteside has claimed Manchester City are light years away from Manchester United.

Last year the Citizens had their best ever season in the Premier League and qualified for the Champions League for the first time in their history.

Many have claimed that the main footballing force in Manchester could be turning from red to blue but the former Red Devils forward has claimed Roberto Mancinis men have a long way to go to replicate Uniteds success.

Speaking to the Weekend Sports Breakfast, Whiteside said: Theyre light years away.

It's always good having them in the same league because for a few years they were in the lower divisions.

"Now theyre actually trying to compete its great for the city.

Theyre light years away

Norman Whiteside
Whiteside went on to claim that Sir Alex Ferguson has started to replace some of the older faces in the Man United squad.

He went on to say: Hes got Smalling and hes got Phil Jones.

They both played very well for England Under-21s, so hes [Sir Alex Ferguson] not just looking for next season hes building for the future.

I can see another few players coming in as well and trying to safeguard the Premier League for next year, theyll be going for number 20.

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Interesting take on it, he is welcome to his opinion even if i think he is talking out of his backside and doesnt back up his comment with any kind of argument other than talking about u*d having 2 u21s at the back for the future.

Id have thought even the most ardent u*d fans would have to agree we arnt that far away from them now but i guess not.


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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Xavier on Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:18 am

Well, to really 'replicate United's success', they'd have to win the league 19 times, wouldn't they? Smile
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Post by Sgoater1 on Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:44 am

Xavier wrote:Well, to really 'replicate United's success', they'd have to win the league 19 times, wouldn't they? Smile

Well the question wasnt about us replicating their success its about how close we are to them now and looking at our squads i dont think we are light years away do you ?
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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Luis on Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:24 pm

Sgoater1 wrote:
Xavier wrote:Well, to really 'replicate United's success', they'd have to win the league 19 times, wouldn't they? Smile

Well the question wasnt about us replicating their success its about how close we are to them now and looking at our squads i dont think we are light years away do you ?

Not lightyears but you've got a hell of a lot of work to do. United's hard-working, team ethic that is so deeply ingrained in them means that they are a definite example of what teams wanting to compete with them have to measure up to. It's not just about personnel, it's about having understanding in every area of the pitch and right now City don't have that. I'm sure if you continue to spend millions and millions and fill each position with quality players you'll have enough to finish in the top 3 every season but IMO you wont win the title until you play as a team and stop relying too heavily on Tevez and Silva.
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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Aristoskank on Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:38 pm

City's squad is already better than ManYoo's, what they don't have is the tactical flexibility/team ethic/stability. And you can't buy that, you can only coach it into players.

David The Gayer is apparently in Manchester for a medical, which will take Man Utd's spending over the 50 million mark this summer.
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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Luis on Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:42 pm

If United can sign a quality, creative centre mid they'll have a great chance of winning the league again. full backs are perhaps a weakness but they're sorted in the centre back area now for the long term. They have the best wide options in the league and ditto strikers.

My prediction that this is going to be a massive summer of transfers may be turning out to be correct. City and Chelsea will spend big too I'm sure.
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Post by Sgoater1 on Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:54 pm



I think the thing is your team ethic grows over time and it was obvious ours did last season and by the end of it we looked like a different side to the one that started the season, we had really gelled and that helped us win 7 of the last 8 games of the season winning the FA Cup and finishing 3rd.
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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Luis on Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:57 pm

Sgoater1 wrote:

I think the thing is your team ethic grows over time and it was obvious ours did last season and by the end of it we looked like a different side to the one that started the season, we had really gelled and that helped us win 7 of the last 8 games of the season winning the FA Cup and finishing 3rd.

It does certainly grow over time but you finishing 3rd was down to the rest of the challengers being pretty woeful. Chelsea should have done a lot better, Arsenal completely capitulated (nothing new there), Spurs and Liverpool weren't good enough over the whole season to challenge.

In terms of comparing with United though you're still some way off, but next season will be a big one and IMO the pressure will be on City to at least seriously take United all the way 'til the end of the season.
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Post by Aristoskank on Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:07 pm

Sgoater1 wrote:

I think the thing is your team ethic grows over time and it was obvious ours did last season and by the end of it we looked like a different side to the one that started the season, we had really gelled and that helped us win 7 of the last 8 games of the season winning the FA Cup and finishing 3rd.

Ale

By the end of the season you looked more like a team than a group of players, but most of ManYoo's key players have been there for 4 years or more. No amount of money can make up for that, and I'm not sure if Mancini is the sort of man to imbue his players with the same winning mentality that Fergie does with his.

Unless Veelash-Bowash overhauls Chelsea in a serious way, you're going to be the serious challengers to ManYoo next year.
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Post by Hlebagone on Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:18 pm

How can Man Utd spend so much given their financial problems. Common sense must presume that there is still a good CM on the way (Scholes replacement) and in all honesty, they probably need two.

Berbatov will go I guess, but they can't recoup that much from him.
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Post by COTR on Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:23 pm

Hlebagone wrote:How can Man Utd spend so much given their financial problems. Common sense must presume that there is still a good CM on the way (Scholes replacement) and in all honesty, they probably need two.

Berbatov will go I guess, but they can't recoup that much from him.

Their bond doesn't have to be repaid / renegotiated until 2017 so they can continue on their merry way until that point as they'll have plenty of money in the bank

Either that or Steve Bruce will continue to fund them

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Post by stinger on Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:25 pm

COTR wrote:
Hlebagone wrote:How can Man Utd spend so much given their financial problems. Common sense must presume that there is still a good CM on the way (Scholes replacement) and in all honesty, they probably need two.

Berbatov will go I guess, but they can't recoup that much from him.

Their bond doesn't have to be repaid / renegotiated until 2017 so they can continue on their merry way until that point as they'll have plenty of money in the bank

Either that or Steve Bruce will continue to fund them
And he will be able to do it just because King Kenny will fund him Wink
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Post by COTR on Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:36 pm

Fair point Evil or Very Mad
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Post by Sgoater1 on Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:37 pm

Luis wrote:
Sgoater1 wrote:

I think the thing is your team ethic grows over time and it was obvious ours did last season and by the end of it we looked like a different side to the one that started the season, we had really gelled and that helped us win 7 of the last 8 games of the season winning the FA Cup and finishing 3rd.

It does certainly grow over time but you finishing 3rd was down to the rest of the challengers being pretty woeful. Chelsea should have done a lot better, Arsenal completely capitulated (nothing new there), Spurs and Liverpool weren't good enough over the whole season to challenge.

In terms of comparing with United though you're still some way off, but next season will be a big one and IMO the pressure will be on City to at least seriously take United all the way 'til the end of the season.

It doesnt matter if you say we only got 3rd cos Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs werent as good as us thats basically the point every season...finishing 3rd was cos we were better than everyone over the season bar 2 teams (although Chelsea only got 2nd on GD)your just looking at it in a negative way regarding us. You cant say we were better so you say it is down to others being woeful Rolling Eyes
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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Sgoater1 on Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:47 pm



This summer is an important one for U*d to freshen up and improve their squad. To be honest im still amazed they won the title last year but credit to them for digging in and along with some of they lucky decisions they did what they needed to to win the league.

This summer see's VdS & Scholes retire and im sure a few squad players (Brown, Gibson etc) will move on, they will have to add to their debt to try and bring in decent younger players to maintain their quality and it will be interesting to see how they do after this overhaul of players. They have to spend big just to replace the ones they have lost, at the moment De Gay, Jones and Young coming in for approx 50m but they still need to add a creative mid to replace Scholes. I wouldnt be suprised to see them move for Modric but i guess the question is how much do they have to spend.
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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Aristoskank on Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:11 pm

Selling Berbatard, Brown, Gibshot and Evans should bring in a few quid, especially if any of them go to Sunderland.

Plus they've lost Scholes, Neville, VDS to retirement, which must be over 200K p/w off the wage bill.

And just won the league and got to a CL final.

And they got 80 million for selling Ronaldo, and have (or at least had) over 100 million in cash reserves according to their accounts.

I don't think it's at all surprising they've got money to spend.
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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Batman on Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:55 pm

Maybe just maybe Anderson can develop into the player we expected when we signed him from Porto in 2007. He only turned 23 in April so is still young and he should get more playing time this season with Scholes gone and maybe Gibson too.



Just hope playing deeper than he did at Porto/Germio/Brazil U-17, injuries and lack of playing time has hampered his development too much and that he can still reach his true potential.
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Post by Sgoater1 on Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:23 pm

Batman wrote:Maybe just maybe Anderson can develop into the player we expected when we signed him from Porto in 2007. He only turned 23 in April so is still young and he should get more playing time this season with Scholes gone and maybe Gibson too.



Just hope playing deeper than he did at Porto/Germio/Brazil U-17, injuries and lack of playing time has hampered his development too much and that he can still reach his true potential.

Yeah you could do with him stepping it up a bit but he is only 23 as you pointed out so i think he could. Plus you will have Fletcher back after he missed the run in. Carrick didnt have a good season and needs to improve.
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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by christmasborocooper on Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:54 pm

Anderson is done. Sell him now.
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Re: Manchester United 2015/2016

Post by Batman on Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:50 am



Manchester United have confirmed the signing of goalkeeper David de Gea from Atletico Madrid on a five-year deal.

The Spain Under-21 international, 20, underwent a medical at Old Trafford on Monday and will finalise what is thought to be an 18.9m move on Friday.

"I feel very proud and I can't wait to start playing here," De Gea told MUTV.

"When a club the size of Manchester United comes in for you, it obviously makes you very, very happy. I'm keen to do my best and show what I can do."

The deal marks De Gea out as the second most expensive keeper behind Gianluigi Buffon, who cost Juventus 32.6m in 2001.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13933241.stm

MOST EXPENSIVE GOALKEEPERS

Gianluigi Buffon - 32.6m
David de Gea - 18.9m*
Angelo Peruzzi - 10.5m
Craig Gordon - 9m
Fabien Barthez - 7.8m

*Estimated fee

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