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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by Jaime on Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:03 pm

En Italia dan por cerrado el fichaje de Neymar por el Real

Según la Prensa italiana, el Real Madrid tiene prácticamente cerrado el fichaje del brasileño Neymar. Dos portales italianos, Sky Sports y Mediaset, aseguran que el jugador firmará por cinco temporadas. El segundo de ellos cita a Ernesto Bronzetti, intermediario en el fútbol italiano y que ha participado en muchos fichajes del Real Madrid de Florentino Pérez, quien asegura en el portal italiano Mediaset que el fichaje está cerrado. Bronzetti matizó luego que al menos eso había escuchado. Según ambas versiones, el jugador del Santos se habría comprometido por cinco temporadas con el club blanco, aunque hay pequeñas diferencias sobre el precio del traspaso. Mediaset habla de 45 millones y Sky Sports, de 40. Grr

Neymar cobraría más de dos millones de euros por campaña. Sin embargo, no hay confirmación oficial ni por parte del Real Madrid ni por parte del Santos de lo que en Italia se califica como "golpe en el mercado". El agente del jugador se limita a asegurar que nada está firmado.

Neymar, de 19 años, es la gran estrella de la Liga brasileña y jugará mañana la ida de la final de la Copa Santander Libertadores con el Santos frente al Peñarol. Cuando concluya la vuelta, se incorporará a la selección brasileña que disputará la Copa América.

http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/italia-dan-cerrado-fichaje-neymar/20110614dasdasftb_19/Tes

F*CK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by Juligen on Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:53 pm

Jaime wrote:En Italia dan por cerrado el fichaje de Neymar por el Real

Según la Prensa italiana, el Real Madrid tiene prácticamente cerrado el fichaje del brasileño Neymar. Dos portales italianos, Sky Sports y Mediaset, aseguran que el jugador firmará por cinco temporadas. El segundo de ellos cita a Ernesto Bronzetti, intermediario en el fútbol italiano y que ha participado en muchos fichajes del Real Madrid de Florentino Pérez, quien asegura en el portal italiano Mediaset que el fichaje está cerrado. Bronzetti matizó luego que al menos eso había escuchado. Según ambas versiones, el jugador del Santos se habría comprometido por cinco temporadas con el club blanco, aunque hay pequeñas diferencias sobre el precio del traspaso. Mediaset habla de 45 millones y Sky Sports, de 40. Grr

Neymar cobraría más de dos millones de euros por campaña. Sin embargo, no hay confirmación oficial ni por parte del Real Madrid ni por parte del Santos de lo que en Italia se califica como "golpe en el mercado". El agente del jugador se limita a asegurar que nada está firmado.

Neymar, de 19 años, es la gran estrella de la Liga brasileña y jugará mañana la ida de la final de la Copa Santander Libertadores con el Santos frente al Peñarol. Cuando concluya la vuelta, se incorporará a la selección brasileña que disputará la Copa América.

http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/italia-dan-cerrado-fichaje-neymar/20110614dasdasftb_19/Tes

F*CK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, you want Arguero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please buy Arguero, FFS! Neymar is going to Chelsea Crying or Very sad
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by Jaime on Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:00 pm

Juligen wrote:
Jaime wrote:En Italia dan por cerrado el fichaje de Neymar por el Real

Según la Prensa italiana, el Real Madrid tiene prácticamente cerrado el fichaje del brasileño Neymar. Dos portales italianos, Sky Sports y Mediaset, aseguran que el jugador firmará por cinco temporadas. El segundo de ellos cita a Ernesto Bronzetti, intermediario en el fútbol italiano y que ha participado en muchos fichajes del Real Madrid de Florentino Pérez, quien asegura en el portal italiano Mediaset que el fichaje está cerrado. Bronzetti matizó luego que al menos eso había escuchado. Según ambas versiones, el jugador del Santos se habría comprometido por cinco temporadas con el club blanco, aunque hay pequeñas diferencias sobre el precio del traspaso. Mediaset habla de 45 millones y Sky Sports, de 40. Grr

Neymar cobraría más de dos millones de euros por campaña. Sin embargo, no hay confirmación oficial ni por parte del Real Madrid ni por parte del Santos de lo que en Italia se califica como "golpe en el mercado". El agente del jugador se limita a asegurar que nada está firmado.

Neymar, de 19 años, es la gran estrella de la Liga brasileña y jugará mañana la ida de la final de la Copa Santander Libertadores con el Santos frente al Peñarol. Cuando concluya la vuelta, se incorporará a la selección brasileña que disputará la Copa América.

http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/italia-dan-cerrado-fichaje-neymar/20110614dasdasftb_19/Tes

F*CK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, you want Arguero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please buy Arguero, FFS! Neymar is going to Chelsea Crying or Very sad

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! We don't want EITHER of those f*ckers!!!!!!
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:29 pm

Santos' Neymar denies rumours that he is set to join Real Madrid

The Brazilian youngster claims he has not signed for the Spanish capital side and added that he will not quit his current club any time in the near future

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2011/06/14/2532189/santos-neymar-denies-rumours-that-he-is-set-to-join-real
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by mongrel hawk on Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:08 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:
Santos' Neymar denies rumours that he is set to join Real Madrid

The Brazilian youngster claims he has not signed for the Spanish capital side and added that he will not quit his current club any time in the near future

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2011/06/14/2532189/santos-neymar-denies-rumours-that-he-is-set-to-join-real

Santos managers are saying they will only sell Neymar if forced to. Good decision for Santos, Neymar and Brazilian football. Bad news for Madrid.
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by Jaime on Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:33 am

Mongrel Hawk wrote:
blutgraetsche wrote:
Santos' Neymar denies rumours that he is set to join Real Madrid

The Brazilian youngster claims he has not signed for the Spanish capital side and added that he will not quit his current club any time in the near future

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2011/06/14/2532189/santos-neymar-denies-rumours-that-he-is-set-to-join-real

Santos managers are saying they will only sell Neymar if forced to. Good decision for Santos, Neymar and Brazilian football. Bad news for Madrid.

Nah, it's great news for Madrid. There is no point spending 40m euro on a kid who is not ready to leave.
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by Jaime on Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:20 pm

El Real Madrid incluye una opción de recompra por Parejo

El Real Madrid se resiste a olvidar a Dani Parejo. Formado en las categorías inferiores de la Casa Blanca, el madrileño siempre fue considerado una de las perlas de Valdebebas.

Para no revivir otro caso como el de Juan Mata o Borja Valero, la entidad merengue ha incluido una cláusula de recompra. Si los blancos quieren recuperar a Parejo deberán desembolsar 18 millones de euros al final de la primera temporada de contrato y 15 cuando la segunda campaña se agote.

En la jornada de ayer, Valencia y Getafe confirmaron el traspaso de Parejo al Valencia. El centrocampista será blanquinegro por las próximas cinco temporadas previo pago de 6 millones de euros y un amistoso ante el Getafe.

El coordinador de la secretaría técnica del Valencia, Braulio Vázquez, valoraba ayer muy positivamente la incorporación del madrileño: "Es un jugador con talento y esperamos que en el Valencia siga su crecimiento y confirme todas las expectativas que los técnicos tenemos depositadas en él".

Braulio destacó del internacional sub 21 "su calidad de pase y su visión de juego" a la par que incidió en que se trata de un jugador al que le gusta estar "en permanente estado con el balón y, aparte, se suma muy bien desde la segunda línea para marcar una buena cifra de goles".

http://www.marca.com/2011/06/15/futbol/equipos/valencia/1308127018.html

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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by Murray on Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:13 pm

30 kilos of what for Kaka?
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by Jaime on Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:35 pm

Murray wrote:30 kilos of what for Kaka?

Hopefully euros! lol!
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:16 pm

So he hasn't closed the door to Madrid?

How many players will you have in your squad if you actually sign all those you're linked to? 43? Is there an official limit?
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by Jaime on Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:19 pm

Yeah only 25 players allowed but Jose don't care! Now that he is in charge he's gonna change the rules so he can have a Premiership style squad. Ale

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:21 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:So he hasn't closed the door to Madrid?

How many players will you have in your squad if you actually sign all those you're linked to? 43? Is there an official limit?

thats as much as jose needs to win the league by 2-4 points
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Post by Jaime on Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:25 pm

Funny thing is if we were to somehow magically sign Cesc what the f*ck are we going to do with Sahin???? They aren't both going to play. Of course it is poor Granero who will pay for this.
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Post by Jaime on Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:07 pm

El Liverpool ofrece 11,5 kilos por Gago

El Liverpoool estaría dispuesto a ofrecer unos 10 millones de libras -11,5 millones de euros- por el fichaje de Fernando Gago, según publica este jueves el 'Daily Star'. Según este tabloide, el argentino es una de las prioridades de Kenny Dalglish para reforzar el centro del campo 'red'. Y el agente de Gago, Marcelo Lombilla, valora positivamente esta opción.

Según el 'Daily Star', Lombilla se habría reunido ya con el director de fútbol del Liverpool, Damien Comolly. Lombilla said: "Gago necesita jugar y el Liverpool sería un club ideal para él. Fernando quiere volver a jugar y regresar al máximo nivel, algo que en estos momentos no le es posible en el Real Madrid".

En la misma información se añade que Gago sería el recambio perfecto para Javier Mascherano y que, pese al fichaje de Jordan Henderson, Dalglish no tendría problemas para hacerle un hueco en el centro del campo del equipo de Anfield, del que podrían salir futbolistas como Joe Cole, Maxi Rodríguez y Christian Poulsen.

http://www.marca.com/2011/06/16/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1308214610.html
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:44 pm

Neymar stifled as Santos and Peñarol draw 0-0 in Copa Libertadores final

A 36-year-old full-back was the star performer in the first leg of the final between Uruguayan and Brazilian teams

Nobody should be judged on one game, of course, but the race for Neymar might just have cooled a little after Wednesday night. The forward, who has been linked with a £45m move to Real Madrid, Chelsea and Manchester City, is a player of great technical ability, that much is obvious, but his contribution to the first leg of Santos's Copa Libertadores final was, at best, limited.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/jun/16/neymar-santos-penarol-copa-libertadores


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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by The Easter Bunny on Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:34 pm

Jaimito el Crack wrote:Yeah only 25 players allowed but Jose don't care! Now that he is in charge he's gonna change the rules so he can have a Premiership style squad. Ale

Limited to 25 players these days.
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by Calidad on Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:14 pm

Maybe Marcelo could move to RB if Coentrao is purchased? In turn, Ramos would move to CB. I think Marcelo is capable of playing as a RB. He loves to cut in and get involved and he has an eye for goal. His right foot is pretty decent too. Thoughts?
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by Chocolate Thunder on Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:16 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:
Neymar stifled as Santos and Peñarol draw 0-0 in Copa Libertadores final

A 36-year-old full-back was the star performer in the first leg of the final between Uruguayan and Brazilian teams

Nobody should be judged on one game, of course, but the race for Neymar might just have cooled a little after Wednesday night. The forward, who has been linked with a £45m move to Real Madrid, Chelsea and Manchester City, is a player of great technical ability, that much is obvious, but his contribution to the first leg of Santos's Copa Libertadores final was, at best, limited.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/jun/16/neymar-santos-penarol-copa-libertadores



I saw the game last night. In fairness, Pena the full back was brilliant. Reminded me of Zanetti at times. Neymar while theatrical as ever(one dive in particular was massively Embarassed ) he was pretty isolated up front and took a right kicking from the Penarol players. Only when he worked the channels did he get any joy, very little support though. Santos were also missing some starting XI players too, Ganso and a couple of defenders. So they did very well to get a draw out of the game.

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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:42 pm

Neymar is the kind of player Madrid fans will be crying of rage in the future if another team buys him before. No joking here. He's a genius. He's a diver and a c**t, but he's a real football genius. I think you Madrid fans didn't get it yet: he's not another very skilled Brazilian. He's way above the skilled Brazilians.

I hate Santos and hate him as a person, but I cannot help loving to see him playing.

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:10 pm

Mongrel Hawk wrote:Neymar is the kind of player Madrid fans will be crying of rage in the future if another team buys him before. No joking here. He's a genius. He's a diver and a c**t, but he's a real football genius. I think you Madrid fans didn't get it yet: he's not another very skilled Brazilian. He's way above the skilled Brazilians.

I hate Santos and hate him as a person, but I cannot help loving to see him playing.

Shhhh, he is the next robinho.
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by Super Progress on Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:18 pm

Mongrel Hawk wrote:Neymar is the kind of player Madrid fans will be crying of rage in the future if another team buys him before. No joking here. He's a genius. He's a diver and a c**t, but he's a real football genius. I think you Madrid fans didn't get it yet: he's not another very skilled Brazilian. He's way above the skilled Brazilians.

I hate Santos and hate him as a person, but I cannot help loving to see him playing.
Nobody doubts that he has skill but rather if he can cut it. After Robinho you can forgive Real Madrid fans for being a bit sceptical. He has some of the warning signs that should make a club think an extra time. Also you just don't know if he will adapt to European football and especially to Cl football which is defensively on a very high level. This is why he should try to play in a club outside the big ones at first where there will be less pressure and a little learning time. At the moment I would much rather buy Pastore if we actually NEEDED another Am.
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by blutgraetsche on Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:36 am

The problem is that the truly talented Brazilian players these don't seem to want to move to one of the smaller clubs first to get used to European football, like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho or Romario did before them, for example. They are straight heading for the big clubs, or maybe it's their clubs who just want to make big money on them.

I don't think that this is beneficial to their development. Were those all time greats any less talented? Most definitely don't think so. But they did it right, planned their careers carefully and were very successful for their clubs (and country).
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by Jaime on Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:48 am

blutgraetsche wrote:The problem is that the truly talented Brazilian players these don't seem to want to move to one of the smaller clubs first to get used to European football, like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho or Romario did before them, for example. They are straight heading for the big clubs, or maybe it's their clubs who just want to make big money on them.

I don't think that this is beneficial to their development. Were those all time greats any less talented? Most definitely don't think so. But they did it right, planned their careers carefully and were very successful for their clubs (and country).

I think it is in part the fault of the big clubs as well because they don't want to miss out on a young talent and then have to pay big money for them later. Although in this case Madrid are already going to have to fork over 35-40m euro to get him.
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by Jaime on Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:49 am

Mongrel Hawk wrote:Neymar is the kind of player Madrid fans will be crying of rage in the future if another team buys him before. No joking here. He's a genius. He's a diver and a c**t, but he's a real football genius. I think you Madrid fans didn't get it yet: he's not another very skilled Brazilian. He's way above the skilled Brazilians.

I hate Santos and hate him as a person, but I cannot help loving to see him playing.

Ronaldo, apparently, rates him equally highly. I am skeptical of his age and whether or not he is a player that will fit into Jose's plans. Remember, he does not care if you are a genius as much as he cares that you are a facking runner.
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by Jaime on Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:41 am

Calidad wrote:Maybe Marcelo could move to RB if Coentrao is purchased? In turn, Ramos would move to CB. I think Marcelo is capable of playing as a RB. He loves to cut in and get involved and he has an eye for goal. His right foot is pretty decent too. Thoughts?

And then what would we do with Carvalho or Pepe? The bottom line, regardless of whether or not Marcelo can be shifted, is that this is an unnecessary signing. Particularly at a cost of 30m euro.

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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by stinger on Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:59 am

Jaimito el Crack wrote:El Liverpool ofrece 11,5 kilos por Gago

El Liverpoool estaría dispuesto a ofrecer unos 10 millones de libras -11,5 millones de euros- por el fichaje de Fernando Gago, según publica este jueves el 'Daily Star'. Según este tabloide, el argentino es una de las prioridades de Kenny Dalglish para reforzar el centro del campo 'red'. Y el agente de Gago, Marcelo Lombilla, valora positivamente esta opción.

Según el 'Daily Star', Lombilla se habría reunido ya con el director de fútbol del Liverpool, Damien Comolly. Lombilla said: "Gago necesita jugar y el Liverpool sería un club ideal para él. Fernando quiere volver a jugar y regresar al máximo nivel, algo que en estos momentos no le es posible en el Real Madrid".

En la misma información se añade que Gago sería el recambio perfecto para Javier Mascherano y que, pese al fichaje de Jordan Henderson, Dalglish no tendría problemas para hacerle un hueco en el centro del campo del equipo de Anfield, del que podrían salir futbolistas como Joe Cole, Maxi Rodríguez y Christian Poulsen.

http://www.marca.com/2011/06/16/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1308214610.html
This would be fantastic. Liverpool need more central midfielders Ale

Jaimito el Crack wrote:
Calidad wrote:Maybe Marcelo could move to RB if Coentrao is purchased? In turn, Ramos would move to CB. I think Marcelo is capable of playing as a RB. He loves to cut in and get involved and he has an eye for goal. His right foot is pretty decent too. Thoughts?

And then what would we do with Carvalho or Pepe? The bottom line, regardless of whether or not Marcelo can be shifted, is that this is an unnecessary signing. Particularly at a cost of 30m euro.
Did Marcelo ever play as RB? I can tell he rarely uses his right foot, so it would be quite strange.
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

Post by Super Progress on Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:53 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:The problem is that the truly talented Brazilian players these don't seem to want to move to one of the smaller clubs first to get used to European football, like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho or Romario did before them, for example. They are straight heading for the big clubs, or maybe it's their clubs who just want to make big money on them.

I don't think that this is beneficial to their development. Were those all time greats any less talented? Most definitely don't think so. But they did it right, planned their careers carefully and were very successful for their clubs (and country).

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blutgraetsche wrote:The problem is that the truly talented Brazilian players these don't seem to want to move to one of the smaller clubs first to get used to European football, like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho or Romario did before them, for example. They are straight heading for the big clubs, or maybe it's their clubs who just want to make big money on them.

I don't think that this is beneficial to their development. Were those all time greats any less talented? Most definitely don't think so. But they did it right, planned their careers carefully and were very successful for their clubs (and country).

I think it is in part the fault of the big clubs as well because they don't want to miss out on a young talent and then have to pay big money for them later. Although in this case Madrid are already going to have to fork over 35-40m euro to get him.
The problem isn't that these players aren't willing to make those smart moves but that they don't have to anymore. I also wouldn't say that it is the fault of the clubs. The difference between recent years and 10-20 years ago is that there is a greater demand for young players. The game is more athletic then it used to be which is part of the reason clubs need young players. I agree that it isn't necessarily beneficial for these players or even the clubs but it is reality. The strange thing is that young talented untried players have risen so much in value that it is hard to distinguish the prices of established players and the young ones. This might be a bubble or it could be a change of paradigm where players like Essien are touted at the same range as some of these "supertalents".

In terms of the Brazilians it is partly down to their clubs being more affluent then in previous times which is because Brazil is getting richer in general. Notice that Javier Pastore left Argentina for a very small amount to Palermo.

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Marcelo uses his right foot quite often in fact. He is very two footed and you can see it when he dribbles and even when he shoots. So he wouldn't have a problem playing on the right BUT it doesn't make a lot of sense with Di Maria ahead of him because Marcelo would generally prefer to cut in on his left as Di Maria would so we would lose some of the dynamics we have with Marcelo-Ronaldo. I really hope this Coentrao transfer doesn't happen. It is one of the strangest transfers I can imagine and it makes absolutely no sense at all.

THIS IS NOT PROGRESS!! Grr
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2010/11

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