The 'didn't quite live up to their potential' XI

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The 'didn't quite live up to their potential' XI

Post by Calidad on Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:17 pm

-----------Goram
-----Sammer-----Mexes
----Diesler------Redondo
Joaquin----Ortega------Robinho
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Joao Pinto, Denilson are others that spring to mind

All relative of course Smile

Fill in the gaps I guess, I can't
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Post by Pras_tama on Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:52 am

I don't even know that Goram has the potential lol!

To put Sammer and Redondo in that team is travesty. Will make my team later on...
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Re: The 'didn't quite live up to their potential' XI

Post by Jaime on Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:31 am

Pras_tama wrote:I don't even know that Goram has the potential lol!

To put Sammer and Redondo in that team is travesty. Will make my team later on...

Ale I have no idea wtf Calidad is on about with those two.
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Post by Jaime on Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:15 am

There are loads of names that could go into this team Julen Guerrero, Dani (anyone else remember that Portuguese kid who played in Ajax in the mid 90s), Freddy Adu Laughing , Rai, Ivan De la Pena, Prosinecki, Kiki Musampa, Karel Poborsky, Tomas Brolin, Igor Shalimov, Gerard, Pablo Aimar, Alex, Bojan, Maxi Lopez, Javier Portillo....some good ones out there!


--------------------Carini

Miñambres------R. Song------Hofland-------Athirson

-------------Farinos-------Ricken


Lamptey-------------Recoba-----------------Denilson


---------------Sinama-Pongolle
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Post by abundance on Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:33 am

Jaimito el Crack wrote:
Pras_tama wrote:I don't even know that Goram has the potential lol!

To put Sammer and Redondo in that team is travesty. Will make my team later on...

Ale I have no idea wtf Calidad is on about with those two.

well, in a sense he's on something.
I remember Sammer coming to Inter something like 20 years ago and he was supposed to be a powerful mezz'ala.
He bottled big time and back in Germany he recycled himself as libero.
So in a sense he didn't live up to his original potential =D
Then he also had to retire early for a bad knee.
(btw in my humble opinion his Baloon d'Or was more overrated than Cannavaro's)

Redondo was a huge player but his career wasn't blessed by luck, he wasn't called for WC 98 because he refused to get a haircut for Passarella, go figure that, he was probably the best midfielder in the world at the time and was dropped for a tuft of hair.
He also was sidelined by injuries just past 30, Milan brought him for 35 billion lira and he couldn't play a game for them - he even gave back his wages after a while, great guy.



btw, great selection @jaimito


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Post by Glenarch of the Glen on Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:45 am

Ricken, Owen, Javier Portillo, Wes Brown, Anderson, Manucho, Jeffers, Collymore, Aliadiere, Anthony Stokes, Carlton Cole, Chris Eagles, Kieran Richardson, Kleberson, Bellion, Tosic, Eric Djemba-Djemba, Luke Chadwick, Bebe Winans, Arturo Lupoli, Gabriel Obertan, Mame Biram Diouf, Carlos Vela, Anthony Le Tallec, Sonny Pike, Cherno Samba, Kieron Dyer.
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Post by Pras_tama on Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:37 am

--------------------Akinfeev
Motta--Bogarde:lol!:--Woodgate--Del Horno
----------De La Pena--Maresca
--------Luque----Valeron----Vicente
---------------------Tristan
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Post by Pierre Littbarski on Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:41 pm

Jordan Glenderson wrote:Ricken, Owen, Javier Portillo, Wes Brown, Anderson, Manucho, Jeffers, Collymore, Aliadiere, Anthony Stokes, Carlton Cole, Chris Eagles, Kieran Richardson, Kleberson, Bellion, Tosic, Eric Djemba-Djemba, Luke Chadwick, Bebe Winans, Arturo Lupoli, Gabriel Obertan, Mame Biram Diouf, Carlos Vela, Anthony Le Tallec, Sonny Pike, Cherno Samba, Kieron Dyer.

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Re: The 'didn't quite live up to their potential' XI

Post by Calidad on Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:53 pm

I included Sammer and Redondo because they don't have the leagacies their talent probably deserves. Sammer could have arguably gone down as one of the best CB's/DM's of all time, but really he just remembered as a very good player with a truncated career. Likewise with Redondo, he didn't achieve all that he could in the game. I mean Redondo only had 29 caps for Argentina...

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Post by A & K on Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:26 pm

Walcott Shocked , Owen, Squillaci, J. Cole, Ribery, Jô, Pedro Leon, Hleb, Bojan, Dos Santos, Aquinalli, Tiago, Armauri, Sissoko (Juve), Grosso, Smeichel junior, Jovanovic, Mikel, Kakuta
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Post by Jaime on Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:30 pm

Sammer won the Balon d'Or ffs. Maybe abundance is correct and he was not the clearest winner ever but still. And Redondo maybe didn't win that many caps for Argentina but he refused a call to the 1990 WC because he wanted to concentrate on his studies, everyone knows about 1998 and his fallout with Passarella over the hair. But he still played in a World Cup and a Copa America. Not to mention winning everything at club level there is and being named the best player in 97-98 Champions League. Maybe they didn't achieve 'everything' in the game, but to put those players in with the likes of Robinho (i.e. little sh!ts that have done nothing in the game) is a not right.
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Post by Pras_tama on Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:40 pm

Ricardo Quaresma
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Post by Murray on Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:00 pm

Freddy Adu
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Re: The 'didn't quite live up to their potential' XI

Post by blutgraetsche on Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:24 am

Calidad is right - Sammer could have had a much more successful career, despite winning quite a bit of silver ware. He wasn't overrated though, far from it. Potentially, he was the most talented German player since Schuster, on par with Matthäus. The latter made a lot more out of it.
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Post by Pras_tama on Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:31 am

The problem is Calidad put Sammer in the same team with the likes of Goram, Deisler, etc etc
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Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:02 pm

ronaldo is a very obvious one that people missed

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Post by stinger on Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:43 pm

Despite him having a great career Patrick Kluivert is always an obvious example for me in this kind of games.

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Post by Guest on Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:52 pm

Paddy K,ronaldo and dinho, up front for me, they all had very good to great careers, but they could have been so much more.

Paddy K, is the single post complete striker football has seen in god knows how long, but his career didn't live up to that.

ronaldo injuries and stupid advice, stopped him from being mentioned with the all time greats, pele's and maradona's.

Dinho the man made football a game, if one understands what i am saying, pure joy in his feet, so much talent its not even funny, could do anything in the attacking 3rd of the pitch, scored has much as he created.

i get what calidad was saying about Redondo has well.

Ortega probably takes the cake though. other Argentine's who were undoubtedly talented but never quite made it like to the level their talented deserved are roman,Aimar and saviola as well.
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Post by Pras_tama on Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:12 pm

Messiah wrote:Paddy K,ronaldo and dinho, up front for me, they all had very good to great careers, but they could have been so much more.

Paddy K, is the single post complete striker football has seen in god knows how long, but his career didn't live up to that.

ronaldo injuries and stupid advice, stopped him from being mentioned with the all time greats, pele's and maradona's.

Dinho the man made football a game, if one understands what i am saying, pure joy in his feet, so much talent its not even funny, could do anything in the attacking 3rd of the pitch, scored has much as he created.

i get what calidad was saying about Redondo has well.

Ortega probably takes the cake though. other Argentine's who were undoubtedly talented but never quite made it like to the level their talented deserved are roman,Aimar and saviola as well.

Paddy is a goal-keeper

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Post by shazlx on Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:38 pm

I don'th think its appropiate to put players who have been successful in these lists. Especially players who will be reagarded at one of the best players in their generation. The way I read this title is that it should be for players who are really talented but never really established themselves in big teams. Good example is Quaresma.

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Post by Glenarch of the Glen on Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:14 am

Giles Barnes just signed for Doncaster on a 6 months PAYG deal. He's only 23 but it looks like injuries have finished him.
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Post by Isco Benny on Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:54 am

Glemon Party wrote:Giles Barnes just signed for Doncaster on a 6 months PAYG deal. He's only 23 but it looks like injuries have finished him.

I remember Guillem Balague identifying Barnes as the one young English talent he felt - at the time - could become a big success in La Liga.

Another story of wasted, unfulfilled potential for whatever reason (this time it seems injuries)

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