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Post by Puro on Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:22 pm

Disco Benny wrote:With Peru's incredible World Cup and Copa America record, who could possibly doubt such optimism Laughing

The UEFA groups are a fucking joke! There's so much shite!!!

Only the group winners should be allowed to go to the WC. I'd make a case for some group winners to go to a playoffs against South America's #7, #8, and #9 probably Perú, Colombia and Ecuador to get their can of whoop ass home and away. TFS!

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Post by Black Magic on Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:25 pm

Hey Peru, how much European and Amerindian admixture do you have?
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Post by COTR on Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:25 pm

debaser wrote:
Of course I'm not. I'm watching an entertaining high-paced encounter in a major international tournament ok

Tell ya what, it must burn to know that despite Croatia only becoming eligible for World Cup for first time in 1998, they won more world cup matches in just that one tournament than Peru have managed in their entire history Laugh lol! Ale

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Is this true Puro ?

Surely not affraid
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Post by Puro on Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:29 pm

Black Magic wrote:Hey Peru, how much European and Amerindian admixture do you have?

Perú? look it up.
Me? I have Inca, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian blood.

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Post by Black Magic on Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:35 pm

I was asking about you, I meant hey puro, not peru.
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Post by Puro on Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:42 pm

Black Magic wrote:I was asking about you, I meant hey puro, not peru.

Ah OK! <Ale>

I'm not gay, just saying. In case you are a Khazar.
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Post by The Easter Bunny on Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:51 pm

So, I have won some easy ca$$$hhh tonight, who else was lucky?
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Post by Puro on Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:53 am

My man Ramírez cried due to the injustice about seeing how Perú once again (SURPRISE! SURPRISE!) is fucked over by the refs! He feels that a Perú complete with Pizarro, Vargas, and Farfán, perhaps a different result would've been obtained.

http://elbocon.pe/nota.php?t=cachito-ramirez-llore-porque-me-senti-impotente-por-el-resultado&sid=87&id=698146

My other man Carmona was also fuming "the refs always turn the tide against us" SO FUCKING TRUE CARMONA, SO FUCKING TRUE! but, what do you expect when we have a corrupt fucko in the FPF (Manuel Burga the so called "president") whom EVERYONE is well aware that he's just there stealing money and discrediting Peruvian football, FFS!!!

http://elbocon.pe/nota.php?t=giancarlo-carmona-los-arbitros-siempre-nos-voltean-los-partidos&sid=87&id=698144

Guerrero's also extremely frustrated, "we played against the foe and against the ref". It's always the same, Guerrero. You, mes amis, don't know this but Perú ALWAYS gets fucked over by the refs because EVERYONE in South America knows the kind of corrupt fuckos we have in the FPF. He is a thief, a parasite, an incompetent fuck, a corrupt fucko through and through, and thus we get fucked over because of that odious son of a bitch. If he's found dead with a shot in the head, you know who did it!

http://peru21.pe/2012/06/10/deportes/guerrero-jugamos-contra-rival-y-contra-arbitro-2028127?href=cat0pos2
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Post by Romford Pele on Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:32 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18726324

That Brazil squad is disgusting Ale
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Post by messiah on Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:50 am

disgustingly good, thats basically thier first team
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Post by messiah on Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:43 pm

Name Club
Goalkeepers:
Martín Campana Cerro Largo
Leandro Gelpi Penarol
Defenders:
Matías Aguirregaray Palermo
Emiliano Albin Penarol
Ramon Arias Defensor Sporting
Sebastian Coates Liverpool
Diego Polenta Bari
Alexis Rolin Nacional
Midfielders:
Maximiliano Calzada Nacional
Nicolas Lodeiro Botafogo
Gaston Ramírez Bologna
Egidio Arevalo Ríos Palermo
Jonathan Urretaviscaya Vitoria Guimaraes
Tabare Viudez Nacional
Attackers:
Edinson Cavani Napoli
Abel Hernandez Palermo
Luis Suarez Liverpool

Look out for rolin
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Post by Romford Pele on Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:16 pm

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Post by messiah on Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:50 am

Can Brazil rekindle their magic?
July 11, 2012

By Tim Vickery

Spain's Euro 2012 triumph - their third consecutive international title - has prompted many to reach for comparisons with Brazilian sides of old in the quest to answer the bar-room question: Which is the world's best-ever international team?


Brazil have always counted on individual skill, but do they need more?
Fun stuff, but given the difficulties of comparing teams from different eras, it may be more worthwhile to peer in the other direction, looking forward rather than backward when making Brazil/Spain comparisons.

The specific question is this: What impact might the success of Spain have on future Brazil sides?

It already has the pundits thinking. Andre Kfouri, one of Brazil's best, devoted the back cover of Lance!, Brazil's sports daily, after the Euros to the definitive reappearance of the smaller, thinking central midfielder.

"There was a time when they seemed doomed to extinction," he wrote. "Their territory had been occupied by modern gladiators, in armour of muscles and warlike concepts. With a destructive mentality, they were the ones with the task of winning the battle that determines the result of most football matches. They transformed the centre of the field into giant walls. Bricks, cement and barbed wire. It has taken a long time, but the wall has fallen."

In Brazil, the wall has fallen from a greater height than elsewhere. The likes of Spain's Xavi and Andres Iniesta, plus Andrea Pirlo of Italy, for that matter, have proved their worth once more. But where are the Brazilian equivalents? It is worth recalling that in the previous World Cup, Brazil's central midfield was made up of the ugly tandem of Gilberto Silva and Felipe Melo - giant, combative and anything but thoughtful and aesthetically pleasing - and this in the zone of the pitch where Brazil used to field the best passers of the ball.

How could this be? Because in football, first comes the idea. And Brazilian football in recent years has been dominated by the idea that everything has been changed by the physical development of the game. The seeds were planted after the defeat to Netherlands in the 1974 World Cup. Used to time on the ball, Brazil's midfield were undone by the high-energy pressing of the Dutch. If this was to be the future, in Brazil's collective mind anyway, then conclusions could be drawn. One was that Brazil's players needed to bulk up. Less space on the field resulted in more physical contact, meaning that the players - especially in the heat of the battle in central midfield - had to be bigger. In the absence of any European physical advantage, it was felt, superior individual ability would tip the balance Brazil's way.

The other conclusion was that possession football was dead. There was no longer enough space on the field to work the elaborate midfield moves of old. The way forward was to block the opposition and launch lightning counter attacks down the flanks. Brazil became a team of Silva and Maicon, a converted centre-back, providing a block in midfield and a skilful athletic runner to burst forward from right back, respectively. Throw in some strikers with unquestionable genius - the likes of Romario in 1994 and Ronaldo thereafter - and for a while it worked very nicely.

But it has not worked so well of late, and even when it was winning titles - Brazil's fifth, and last, World Cup came in 2002 - the new model left older fans pining for the more exuberant days of the past. This, said the technocrats of the Brazilian game, was nothing but dewy-eyed nostalgia. There could be no turning back. Only hopeless romantics could deceive themselves into thinking that the winning formula in today's game could involve little midfielders playing a possession-based game.

Felipe Melo is what you could see in Brazil's midfield in 2010

Obviously, no one told Spain. Not knowing it was impossible, La Roja went and did it anyway. Their three consecutive major titles rank with anything in the history of the world game. A by-product of their achievement is that it has left those Brazilian technocrats wearing the emperor's new clothes.

And so Brazil now seeks to change direction. Taking over after the last World Cup, national team coach Mano Menezes stated right off that he was aiming to wean the team off an excessive dependence on the counter attack. Events at Euro 2012 have merely confirmed his view. He commented that the best teams were looking to elaborate more in midfield and that Brazil had to make improvements in this area, especially in terms of being more patient when in possession.

First comes the idea; then come the players to carry it out. But they do not come at once, even in a country that produces as much talent as Brazil. Those players have to be nurtured, brought up with a philosophy of play as Barcelona does with their youngsters and as Spain have done with their youth sides.

Brazil can always count on extraordinary individual talent, but how quickly can they groom midfielders with the technical ability and tactical intelligence of a Xavi, an Iniesta, a Pirlo, a Bastian Schweinsteiger? Can Brazil do this in time for the 2014 World Cup on its home soil? The clock is ticking.

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Post by worms rises on Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:50 am

Pity Thiago Alcantara didn't choose Brazil,he would be perfect for them.Him and Lucas would have a perfect balance of technical and defensive ability.

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Post by worms rises on Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:51 am

Thaigos brother Rafa has said he is going to play for Brazil.
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Post by messiah on Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:30 pm

I agree with that 100% a thiago type player is exactly what brazil needs, he would improve the team instantly, his brother has chosen to play for them, but I don't ever see him getting a chance, he has developed more into a false 9 or 10 and Brazil have many more talented players in that position.

Its funny how as the alcantara brothers have developed they have basically swapped positions, Rafa was more of the discipline central midfielder and thiago the AM with skills for days now its the other way around(thiago is still more skilful though)

if anything thiago should have chosen to play for brazil, I am sure him would be one of the first names on the team sheet come 2014 and rafa should have chosen Spain, as the false 9 seems to be their develop striker set-up and he plays that position brilliantly.

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Post by worms rises on Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:44 pm

I heard some people say that Rafa is the more talented out of the two,maybe that was just hyperbole I don't know.
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Post by messiah on Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:55 pm

he was/is said to be a better player, not more talented, thiago can do things with the ball that would make dinho smile.
he is more disciplined and gets things done very efficiently.if he does play for brazil and they push him back into midfield he will be excellent for them
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Post by Pierre Littbarski on Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:52 pm

For me entertainment wise

1. SA WCQ
2. D.P.L.
3. Serie A/La liga


on average u seem to get more great games than in any other type of football - used to love watching them on SKY but no UK channel is showing them this time Grr

Good to see paraguay struggling - they are the most boring team from this region.

Also nice to that Peru realise there are still some things that the English do best:

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Post by debaser on Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:33 pm

Not looking too good for our Peruvian friends after a loss to bottom placed Paraguay to follow a draw with Bolivia. Will they ever make it to a world cup Question

Argentina 9 20
Ecuador 9 17
Colombia 8 16
Venezuela 9 12
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Uruguay 9 12
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Chile 9 12
Bolivia 9 8
Peru 9 8
Paraguay 9 7
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Post by Fey on Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:02 am

Read the results in the paper this morning and thought of our Inca warrior as well. Poor him Laughing

I mean even if Uruguay and Chili hosted a WC they wouldnt qualify! And Peru is a rather big country as well! Still, it does look tough qualifying, I mean Paraguay was QF last WC I believe. And look at them now.
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Post by debaser on Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:06 am

Good to see Colombia doing well though. Had a soft spot for them since the Valderrama days.
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Post by Jaime on Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:34 am

debaser wrote:Good to see Colombia doing well though. Had a soft spot for them since the Valderrama days.

ok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEoxKTLjgTI

This is still one of my fav goals of all time.

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Post by stinger on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:50 am

debaser wrote:Good to see Colombia doing well though. Had a soft spot for them since the Valderrama days.
ok
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Post by Fey on Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:45 pm

About time Columbia got a good team again though, bigger then Argentina ffs. But yeah, I still remember where I was when Escobar got shot.

Anyway, Brazil looks impressive of late, really had my doubts if they could field a decent team 2014, but looks like they will be ready in time.
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Post by bluenine on Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:27 am

debaser wrote:Not looking too good for our Peruvian friends after a loss to bottom placed Paraguay to follow a draw with Bolivia. Will they ever make it to a world cup Question

Argentina 9 20
Ecuador 9 17
Colombia 8 16
Venezuela 9 12
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Uruguay 9 12
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Chile 9 12
Bolivia 9 8
Peru 9 8
Paraguay 9 7

Its shocking how Uruguay throw away games when they have so many good players. Chile are the masters of self destruction tho.
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Post by ERIK LAMELA on Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:42 pm

Messi cheers
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Post by messiah on Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:28 pm

Guardametas: Mariano Andujar (Catania), Sergio 'El Gato' Romero (Sampdoria) y Cristian Álvarez (Espanyol).

Defensas: Federico Fernández y Hugo Campagnaro (Nápoles), Pablo Zabaleta (Manchester City), Fabricio Coloccini (Newcastle), Ezequiel Garay (Benfica) y Cristian Ansaldi (Rubin Kazan).

Centrocampistas: Javier Mascherano (Barcelona), Fernando Gago (Valencia), Fabián Rinaudo (Sporting Club), Éver Banega (Valencia), Ángel Di María (Real Madrid), Enzo Pérez y Nicolás Gaitán (Benfica), Augusto Fernández (Celta) y Walter Montillo (Santos).

Delanteros: Lionel Messi (Barcelona), Gonzalo Higuaín (Real Madrid), Ezequiel Lavezzi (París Saint-Germain), Sergio Agüero (Manchester City) y Franco Di Santo (Wigan).

Sabella's section gets better with each announcement cant complain much about this list, except for di Santo but I understand why he had been called up.
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Post by messiah on Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:30 pm


Gk's
Diego Alves (Valencia)
Julio César (Queens Park Rangers)


Daniel Alves (Barcelona)
Adriano (Barcelona)
Filipe Luis (Atlético de Madri)
Dante (Bayern de Munique)
David Luiz (Chelsea)
Leandro Castán (Roma)
Miranda (Atlético de Madri)

Md
Arouca (Santos)
Hernanes (Lazio)
Paulinho (Corinthians)
Ramires (Chelsea)
Oscar (Chelsea)
Ronaldinho Gaúcho (Atlético-MG)

Forwards
Neymar (Santos)
Lucas (PSG)
Luis Fabiano (São Paulo)
Fred (Fluminense)
Hulk (Zenit)

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