Deluded F*ck™ wrote:Nasri coasts too much, he has Fernando Gago syndrome. I think Shaz once (ludicrously) said Andres Iniesta lacks *it*, despite having all the ability in the world. I think that label applies to Nasri, somethings missing, and it's hard to figure out what.
Not sure how Fenomeno can suggest Ben Arfa's underrated - he's been pretty much hyped as a "New Zidane since he left Clairefontaine and joined Lyon... we're all still waiting for him to become this dominant player.
Taarabt is ludicrously gifted (probably the most skilful of ALL the players mentioned in this convo) but his terrible attitude and self-indulgence has done for him at the top level.
Dos Santos is nowhere near as bad, and he is saveable - He's basically at the same point where Ben Arfa was in 2008/9 - he scored 5 in 16 for Racing last year and somebody decent will take a chance on him. #whatcouldhavebeen.
Arshavin is the best and most dangerous of the lot when on top of his game, but those days look to be behind him, he's lost much of his explosiveness that made him so great between 2006-9.
Bentley just got found out - there's a reason he didn't make it at Arsenal and flopped at Spurs. Talented and with a keen eye for the spectacular he may be, but he lacked the speed of foot, thought, and application to hang with the best.
Agree with most of this, but the point is still the same for all of these guys - there are many many players considerably less naturally gifted than all of them who have had been far more successful. All of them have so far been "found out" to varying degrees, and it's mental as opposed to technical/physical. Which was the sole point of this entire debate from the start: Barfa can have all the skill he wants, but that is still no guarantee he will come good.