Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by messiah on Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:48 pm

sahin is not better than carzola,carzola would be the best player at arsenal including rvp. no one there has been consistently as good as him.
don't think any spanish players have left la liga for the prem when they were at carzola's level.
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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by Jaime on Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:53 pm

Calidad wrote:
Romford Pele wrote:Apparently the hold-up in the Sahin deal is that we want to put a clause to in the contract to buy him after the season is finished.

I can't see Madrid agreeing to that.

No, Florentino will agree to it if the fee is right. It is clear now that Sahin doesn't have a future at RM but Florentino isn't just going to give him away.
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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by Calidad on Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:35 pm

Jaime wrote:
Calidad wrote:
Romford Pele wrote:Apparently the hold-up in the Sahin deal is that we want to put a clause to in the contract to buy him after the season is finished.

I can't see Madrid agreeing to that.

No, Florentino will agree to it if the fee is right. It is clear now that Sahin doesn't have a future at RM but Florentino isn't just going to give him away.

But he hasn't even been given a chance. Utterly baffling.
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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by Jaime on Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:39 pm

Calidad wrote:
Jaime wrote:
Calidad wrote:
Romford Pele wrote:Apparently the hold-up in the Sahin deal is that we want to put a clause to in the contract to buy him after the season is finished.

I can't see Madrid agreeing to that.

No, Florentino will agree to it if the fee is right. It is clear now that Sahin doesn't have a future at RM but Florentino isn't just going to give him away.

But he hasn't even been given a chance. Utterly baffling.

Obviously nobody knows exactly what has happened but everything seems to point to a poor attitude and a falling out with Jose. But if you are a RM first team player and you are sent on loan, there is no way back.
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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by Jaime on Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:20 am

Few odds and ends:

*Jose Angel has returned to la liga after one year in Italy joining Real Sociedad on a one year loan. Apparently there is a purchase option at the end of the loan.

*Didac Vila's move to Valencia is put on hold after he failed his medical. Malaga's delicate situation could provide the alternative with Ignacio Monreal now being linked with Valencia to replace the departed Jordi Alba.

*I'd seen that Sevilla had signed Cicinho and i thought f*cking hell Monchi has really lost the plot. Turns out it is a different Cicinho, from Palmeiras. Meanwhile, Escude has left to go play in Turkey.

*The fire sale in Malaga continues. Rondon is close to moving to Rubin Kazan, Joaquin is probably going back to Betis, Toulalan has asked to leave the club and is being linked with Barcelona, Apoño has gone to Zaragoza. What a disaster!!!!!

*Two more portuguese loanees for Deportivo. Nelson Oliveira and Roderick have joined from Benfica. Oliveira is supposed to be pretty decent. Never heard of the other fella.

*Capdevila has returned to Espanyol after a disastrous season in Portugal.

*I thought Ivan Ramis to Wigan was official but that turned out to be a rumour. The player has claimed that there is an deal on the table with negotiations being advanced but the club is not Wigan. I feel better about that because it would have been a disgrace for Ramis to go to a club like that.

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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by Jaime on Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:38 am

Cazorla to Arsenal is official.

Deportivo have signed Carlos Marchena. Could be a very shrewd signing for Depor just coming back to the top flight, they will do well with an experienced defender. To be fair Marchena seemed to look better in midfield during his stint in Villarreal but i still think it is an improvement for the deportivo backline.

Albiol has renewed his contract through 2017. I like him, he is reliable, doesn't make a lot, never complains about being on the bench. Pepe, Sergio Ramos, Albiol, and Varane is a nice quartet of central defenders.
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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by EMP on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:58 am

Jaime wrote:
Romford Pele wrote:As far as i'm aware, today is the day when Malaga have to pay all their debts to the taxman or they face some serious consequences. Last I heard, the owners were in talks for a takeover but I don't think that has happened of yet? Hopefully this will reach some sort of resolution today so we can clarify the future of Cazorla. Many expect him to join within the next 24 hours - i'm not sure though.

The sheikhs are desperately trying to sell the club but it's too little too late me thinks. Cazorla is a done deal according to Marca - 20m euro. Sounds like just about everyone including Pellegrini will be leaving. What a farce! I agree with worms though, the only hope is that they actually do lose their uefa license so that Atletico can take their place in the CL because at this rate they won't even qualify for the group stages.

Jaime, if you remember, you demanded that the Custodians of the Curse of Valencia take action against Malaga last season. You can't complain now that they have! Wink
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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by EMP on Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:06 am

Jaime wrote:Cazorla to Arsenal is official.

Deportivo have signed Carlos Marchena. Could be a very shrewd signing for Depor just coming back to the top flight, they will do well with an experienced defender. To be fair Marchena seemed to look better in midfield during his stint in Villarreal but i still think it is an improvement for the deportivo backline.

Albiol has renewed his contract through 2017. I like him, he is reliable, doesn't make a lot, never complains about being on the bench. Pepe, Sergio Ramos, Albiol, and Varane is a nice quartet of central defenders.

Grr Grr Grr
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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by Romford Pele on Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:15 am

Jaime wrote:Cazorla to Arsenal is official.

Deportivo have signed Carlos Marchena. Could be a very shrewd signing for Depor just coming back to the top flight, they will do well with an experienced defender. To be fair Marchena seemed to look better in midfield during his stint in Villarreal but i still think it is an improvement for the deportivo backline.

Albiol has renewed his contract through 2017. I like him, he is reliable, doesn't make a lot, never complains about being on the bench. Pepe, Sergio Ramos, Albiol, and Varane is a nice quartet of central defenders.

cheers

Sahin next Very Happy Just let us have a buy option you contes Grr
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Post by Romford Pele on Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:38 pm

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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by Jaime on Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:26 pm

Romford Pele wrote:
Jaime wrote:Cazorla to Arsenal is official.

Deportivo have signed Carlos Marchena. Could be a very shrewd signing for Depor just coming back to the top flight, they will do well with an experienced defender. To be fair Marchena seemed to look better in midfield during his stint in Villarreal but i still think it is an improvement for the deportivo backline.

Albiol has renewed his contract through 2017. I like him, he is reliable, doesn't make a lot, never complains about being on the bench. Pepe, Sergio Ramos, Albiol, and Varane is a nice quartet of central defenders.

cheers

Sahin next Very Happy Just let us have a buy option you contes Grr

No, you just pay up now you stingy contes!!!! Grr Wink
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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by EMP on Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:41 pm

Jaime wrote:
Romford Pele wrote:
Jaime wrote:Cazorla to Arsenal is official.

Deportivo have signed Carlos Marchena. Could be a very shrewd signing for Depor just coming back to the top flight, they will do well with an experienced defender. To be fair Marchena seemed to look better in midfield during his stint in Villarreal but i still think it is an improvement for the deportivo backline.

Albiol has renewed his contract through 2017. I like him, he is reliable, doesn't make a lot, never complains about being on the bench. Pepe, Sergio Ramos, Albiol, and Varane is a nice quartet of central defenders.

cheers

Sahin next Very Happy Just let us have a buy option you contes Grr

No, you just pay up now you stingy contes!!!! Grr Wink

I quite agree; the tight gits won't even help poor Isco come home - bastards. They deserve to pay over the odds for that alone. Prise their wallet open. You can borrow our crowbar if need be. Wink The Custodians of the Curse of Valencia are monitoring them carefully now.



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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by Romford Pele on Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:45 pm

EMP, we're having a major car boot sale - here's what you can have:

Bendtner
Chamakh
Park
Diaby (if it was down to me)
Squillaci
Djourou
Arshavin
Mannone

Take your pick?!
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Post by EMP on Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:55 pm

Romford Pele wrote:EMP, we're having a major car boot sale - here's what you can have:

Bendtner
Chamakh
Park
Diaby (if it was down to me)
Squillaci
Djourou
Arshavin
Mannone

Take your pick?!

You'd have to pay us to take those. Wink but it's a start.
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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by Jaime on Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:53 pm

Rumour is that Llorente has turned in a transfer request.

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Post by worms rises on Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:54 pm

FFS
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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by Jaime on Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:44 am

Song --> Barcelona
Sahin --> Arsenal
Jaime --> Delighted

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Post by messiah on Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:26 pm

botia to sevilla
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Post by Jaime on Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:27 pm

messiah wrote:botia to sevilla

Good signing. Only a loan though. The player is still owned by some agency.
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Post by Fade out on Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:31 pm

Jaime wrote:Song --> Barcelona
Sahin --> Arsenal
Jaime --> Delighted

cheers

Why do you hate Sahin? Hope he's off to BvB (if that's possible).
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Post by Jaime on Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:38 pm

Fade out wrote:
Jaime wrote:Song --> Barcelona
Sahin --> Arsenal
Jaime --> Delighted

cheers

Why do you hate Sahin? Hope he's off to BvB (if that's possible).

I don't hate him per se but more and more is coming out about how poor his attitude is. He basically thinks he has a divine right to be in the XI and since he is not playing he wants to go. And that is great by me because I only want players who want to be in RM.

He will almost certainly go to England. Man Utd, Arsenal, Tottenham, and Liverpool are all in for him.
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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by Fade out on Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:42 pm

His attitude is towards Mourinho's distrust in his abilities. Lack of considerations of Sahin's talents is very clear. I'm also hearing stories of him wanting to stay and fight for his place. But being asked to play as a fullback extinguishes his hope?

Why are we loaning/selling one of the best playmaking talents in the world, to get the older, less creative, admittedly more robust (hence Mourinho's interest?) midget Modric, is beyond me.
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Post by Fade out on Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:43 pm

Hopefully Song is off to Barca, absolute clown in defense and overrated in attack.
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Post by Jaime on Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:49 pm

Fade out wrote:His attitude is towards Mourinho's distrust in his abilities. Lack of considerations of Sahin's talents is very clear. I'm also hearing stories of him wanting to stay and fight for his place. But being asked to play as a fullback extinguishes his hope?

Why are we loaning/selling one of the best playmaking talents in the world, to get the older, less creative, admittedly more robust (hence Mourinho's interest?) midget Modric, is beyond me.

Well, I think Jose put him as fullback as punishment for rejecting the move to Spurs. From what I have read, Sahin was decided to leave by the end of last year (despite his agents claims). We've seen that the relationship between Sahin and Jose was fractured since for like the last 9 months.

The thing is you need more than talent to succeed at RM. Higuain is not the most talented striker in the world by any means but he is a fighter and he has an indomitable spirit. I don't see this in Sahin at all.

Song to Barcelona would be brilliant. Agger as well. So much for their cantera! Laughing
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Post by Fade out on Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:57 pm

Sahin's a great fighter mate, know that from watching him play for BvB. Mourinho's judgmental attitude towards some players is well known!
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Post by Jaime on Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:07 pm

I never really watched him in Dortmund so I guess I can't say. But even last year in the close of season he got a couple of games here and there like in the return leg against APOEL but just didn't show any intensity.
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Post by Fade out on Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:08 pm

Maybe he wasn't recovered from injury fully?
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Post by Jaime on Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:10 pm

Fade out wrote:Maybe he wasn't recovered from injury fully?

I can concede that he lacked matches but he'd been training without problems since November.
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Post by Super Progress on Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:54 pm

Jaime

What have you heard about Sahin?
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Re: Mercado de verano: La liga transfer thread - Summer 2012

Post by Jaime on Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:51 pm

Super Progress 2012 wrote:Jaime

What have you heard about Sahin?

In a nutshell he told Jose he wanted to be guaranteed a place in Jose's XI, Jose said you have to work for it to be ahead of Alonso and Khedira, Sahin said I want to play or I want to leave, Jose said you can leave (and in the meantime you can play left back).



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