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Post by A & K on Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:26 am

Diara might get 6 month suspension after pushing a referee.

That AlWhou? Diarra’s suspension has passed largely unnoticed is a sign of how far the French football star has fallen. Time was, the capitaine was known and lauded the world over, embodying as he did that gallic Va Va Voom.

Diarra, who was until Saturday ahead by a nose in the French captaincy by-election, has seen his candicacy take a major hit: he has been provisionally suspended until November 10 for pushing the referee last weekend against Auxerre.

As chance would have it, November 10 is the date set for the French squad for the Wembley friendly on November 17. The actual suspension will then be decided, which could cost him up to 6 months.

With the team still mentally recovering from Knynsna, leaders are in short supply; those who led under Domenech have either been cast aside (Gallas, Henry) or suspended (blacklisted?).

Indeed, such is the paucity of leadership, a Head Doctor was even recently added to the staff in order to fast-track clousure on South Africa, while helping to reinstill a winning mentality. In the conspicuous absence of a born leader, Mexes, Malouda, and Diarra have been shortlisted and offered respective trials with the armband.

Diarra has now seen his chances seriously diminished following his moment of madness.

OK, on a Di Canioiste-Wengeresque ref-pushing curve, Diarra’s would plot nearer the Professor; we’re not talking GBH here. (Di Canio took 11 games for his push, though you’d have to think a good 5 of those were owing to the ref’s will-he-won’t he” theatrical stumble, memorably re-enacted by Ian Wright Wright Wright).

And yet, and yet and yet… it does make you wonder as to the fragility of Diarra’s character, if such an innocuous moment could result in such a reaction from the would-be-captain. Vincent Peter Jones and Roy Maurice Keane, among other upstanding gents to have colourfully expressed their disagreement with refereeing decisions, always managed to do so without ever resorting to physically accosting an official (albeit, in the case of Keane, thanks to the considerable survival instincts of several men in black, notably Andy D’Ursro).

In a tense post-Knysna climate, with the actions of one and all firmly on the radar, it’s not the exemplary behavour becoming of an international captain-in-waiting. Irish fans won’t need reminding of his petty taunts to Keith Andrews that the tie was “already over” following their 1-0 aggregate victory in Dublin 12 months ago. And how close those words nearly came back to haunt him…

Won’t somebody think of the children?!

Aspiring French footballers are becoming accustomed to unsavoury norms from their role models.

Just to nip this one in the bud: Anelka DID NOT accuse Domenech’s mother of being a harlot. Wrongly, the pervasive myth still exists surrounding Anelka’s slur on Domenech, and L’Equipe’s shameful Page 1 publication can claim responsibility for that. The scandalous lie caused a rippling effect throughout France, and the spiralling fallout from South Africa compounded the image of upstart millionaire behaving like upstarts who don’t even know they’ve been born.

In that context, Diarra doesn’t really have a leg to stand on after looking a gift horse in the mouth. In fact, if Blanc had any sense, he’d see that Diarra couldn’t hack it, and give him his jacket.

An “honest,” “dogged” journeyman midfielder who erred at the first time of asking, he’s proven he’s not international captain material.

Now it’s down to the best of a bad bunch – Malouda or Mexes – to assume the honour of following in the footsteps of recent heroic French captains, such as Patrice Ev… oh… on a bus?! Well, I meant Thierry Hen… really… with his hand?!… I mean Zinedine Zid… (…) … Another option would be for Blanc to wear the armband altogether, and offer some first hand education on what the role entails. The armband’s been dragged through the mud long enough, and tossing it around in hope rather than conviction will only end in tears.

For the week that was in it, I’ll leave the last word to a Scot with whom Blanc witnessed leadership personified: “Ya cannae make a silk purse outtae a pig’s ear.”

A. Diarra totally lost the plot and he will miss two months stupidely. He did say sorry to the referee but that was too late. Some players really don't have a brain. When everything was going well for him, Bordeaux was getting better and France as well.. this had to happen. Bordeaux were masacred yesterday at home by Brest FFS..
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Re: FRANCE - Summer 2012 thread

Post by Cesc Soler on Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:29 am

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Post by Cheb Hamouda on Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:53 am

France? Nike? Le Quoi?
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Post by Cesc Soler on Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:27 pm

France squad vs. Brazil (9th February)

Gardiens: Cedric CARRASSO , Hugo LLORIS & Steve MANDANDA

Défenseurs: Eric ABIDAL , Gael CLICHY , Laurent KOSCIELNY , Philippe MEXES , Adil RAMI, Anthony REVEILLERE , Bacary SAGNA & Mamadou SAKHO

Milieux: Yohan CABAYE, Abou DIABY , Alou DIARRA , Yoann GOURCUFF , Yann M'VILA , Florent MALOUDA & Blaise MATUIDI

Attaquants: Karim BENZEMA , Kevin GAMEIRO , Guillaume HOARAU , Jeremy MENEZ & Loic REMY



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Post by TheCrazy58 on Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:29 am

Koscielny earns first call-up, well done and good on him though that means another player away on meaningless international breaks for us Erm

Evra dropped.
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Post by Calidad on Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:06 pm

Cesc Soler wrote:France squad vs. Brazil (9th February)

Gardiens: Cedric CARRASSO , Hugo LLORIS & Steve MANDANDA

Défenseurs: Eric ABIDAL , Gael CLICHY , Laurent KOSCIELNY , Philippe MEXES , Adil RAMI, Anthony REVEILLERE , Bacary SAGNA & Mamadou SAKHO

Milieux: Yohan CABAYE, Abou DIABY , Alou DIARRA , Yoann GOURCUFF , Yann M'VILA , Florent MALOUDA & Blaise MATUIDI

Attaquants: Karim BENZEMA , Kevin GAMEIRO , Guillaume HOARAU , Jeremy MENEZ & Loic REMY




What's happened to Toulalan and Cissokho then?
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Post by Cesc Soler on Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:52 pm

FRANCE:
Lloris - Sagna, Rami, Mexès, Abidal - A. Diarra (cap.), M'Villa - Ménez, Gourcuff, Malouda - Benzema.

BRAZIL:
Julio César - Daniel Alves, Thiago Silva, David Luiz, André Santos - Hernanes, Lucas, Elias - Robinho (cap.), Pato, Renato Augusto.
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Post by Cesc Soler on Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:41 pm

Hernanes sent off after planting his studs into Benzema's upper chest/shoulder. Both players were in standing positions.
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Post by Cesc Soler on Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:02 pm



HT: 0-0

An even contest game with the best chance of the half going to France. Benzema flashed a shot just wide of the post after being played in from a Gourcuff flick-on just outside the box.
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Post by Cesc Soler on Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:15 pm

1-0 France. It started with Jeremy Menez on the right who beat the full-back, cut towards the byline and played the ball across the six yard box leaving Benzema with a simple tap-in.
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Post by Napoléon on Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:25 pm

Poor game tonight. The red card changed the game. Brazil had a good first half. In 2nd half we played better but it was easier with 11 men vs 10.

Best player : Mexes.
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Post by Allez les rouges on Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:32 am

Cesc Soler wrote:FRANCE:
Lloris - Sagna, Rami, Mexès, Abidal - A. Diarra (cap.), M'Villa - Ménez, Gourcuff, Malouda - Benzema.

BRAZIL:
Julio César - Daniel Alves, Thiago Silva, David Luiz, André Santos - Hernanes, Lucas, Elias - Robinho (cap.), Pato, Renato Augusto.

Is this as good as it gets? scratch Laugh

How are the mighty fallen.

Ah well, if Germany can't seem to ever beat Italy at least Brazil have the same problem with France.
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Post by fcb on Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:17 pm

It's a Chelsea-esque generation gap. Bunch of talented kids playing together, esp. in key areas like CB. Their captain is Robinho FFS, not sure what leadership they'll get from him.

It'll take time to improve, but there's potential for a short term boost as well, esp. if the likes of Lucio come back in.
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Post by Cesc Soler on Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:21 pm

They were missing their first choice backline from the WC, Felipe Melo, Kaka (if you believe he will come good again) & Luis Fabiano.

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Brazil based players such as Ganso & Neymar

But yes, that is five without defeat against Brazil for the French.
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Post by Cesc Soler on Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:12 pm

France Squad vs. Luxembourg & Croatia

GARDIENS: Lloris (Lyon), Mandanda (Marseille), Carrasso (Bordeaux)

DÉFENSEURS: Sagna (Arsenal), Rami (Lille), Mexès (AS Roma), Ma. Sakho (Paris-SG), Clichy (Arsenal), Evra (Manchester United), Réveillère (Lyon), Koscielny (Arsenal).

MILIEUX: A. Diarra (Bordeaux), M'Vila (Rennes), Malouda (Chelsea), Gourcuff (Lyon), Diaby (Arsenal), Nasri (Arsenal), Menez (Roma)

ATTAQUANTS: Gameiro (Lorient), Hoarau (Paris-SG), Benzema (Real Madrid), Rémy (Marseille), Ribéry (Bayern Munich).

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Post by Fade out on Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:38 pm

c**ts return.

Blanc will put 'em in right place. Take out Malouda bring in Ribery. I'd not want to see Gourcuff play the Zidane role any more. Big disgrace.
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Post by Cesc Soler on Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:07 pm

Rather unsurprisingly Diaby pulls out of the squad with a muscle injury. Lille's Yohan Cabaye comes in to replace him.

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Post by A & K on Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:02 am

Lloris, Evra, Rami, Mexes, Sagna (Reveillere), M'Villa, A. Diarra (Toulalan), Nasri, Ribery, Gourcuff, Benzema. This team looks good on paper, but will it work? Gourcuff has really done fuk all this year and shouldn't even be called, but he worked under Blanc at Bordeaux.. and Blanc has said that he is losing patience with him.. If he doesn't do well it will be adios amigo and welcome someone else instead (Valbunea, Ben Arfa when back, Cabaye...). I wonder why Flamini hasn't be called. I don't follow Italian football but as little as I know he does regurlarly play for Milan... Lassana Diara hasn't be called as well, maybe he is injured or doing nothing special for Real.
I think Menez also has to do well... He has talent but is too roller coaster... He needs to mature and become more efficient.
Gosh, is that the first game for france in this euro qualification. I can't remember a thing! Didn't even know we were playing against Croatia.
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Post by Hlebagone on Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:59 pm

Some epically damming stuff about quotas being used in French academies to increase the number of white players, implicating Laurent Blanc as well. Could have repercussions far beyond the French national team if it turns out to be true...

What's everyones take on this?

Quote of Blanc:
Je crois qu'il faut recentrer, surtout pour des garçons de 13-14 ans, 12-13 ans, avoir d'autres critères, modifiés avec notre propre culture (...) Les Espagnols, ils m'ont dit: "Nous, on n'a pas de problème. Nous, des blacks, on n'en a pas".

Need to refocus, especially for those age groups, and have other criterias, modified for our own culture. The Spanish said to me, "We don't have a problem, we don't have any blacks"
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Post by blutgraetsche on Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:13 pm

The French seem to have implemented it at last...



Blanc and the FA have denied it though, but who knows. There must be a few Front National sympathisers amongst the academies staff.

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Post by A & K on Tue May 03, 2011 1:09 am

What a stupid story, which is getting bigger and bigger and worse and worse everyday. Some guys from Mediapart (I don't even know what they do but they were here during a meeting with L.Blanc and another member of the F.F.F and Blanc talked about his concern about bi-nationality players, mainly Africans ones (since the majority are). The problem is that more and more players who have played for France teams -15 to -18 are taking their other root as nationality eventhough they are born in France and have represented France which is not helping too much L.Blanc. Whereas I totally understand that one can person can do that (if he's unlikely to picked up for France), there are more and more played doing this. El Arabi and Sow, for instance who are 2 of the best scorers in France have opted for their other nationality and are still young so this sucks for Blanc because there's no one else as good (well only Benzema). I think this is a normal society problem in France. The thing is that those players have represented France in youth teams for several years so it seems they don't give a toss to be French. Changing your nationality is still a big thing though and shouldn't be exclusively done because of football. Blanc said that this problem occurs more in France that elsewhere and that in Spain, for example it would never happened. So now people think he is racist (well media) but he isn't. There are rumors that he may quit his position because of this story, which is 6 months old! I hope he doesn't.
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Post by Hlebagone on Tue May 03, 2011 9:16 am

So are the quotes attributed to Blanc false then?
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Post by Fey on Tue May 03, 2011 11:17 am

I dont get the fuss about it. If it was the other way around they would probably even get subsidized for it.

It's an embarresment, to have a national team that basically has only players that have African roots. You get away with it as long as they are succesful, if not, as the last years, the public is gonna moan. A couple of them is normal but not an entire team. Same goes for Germany and Portugal mind.
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Post by Ä on Wed May 04, 2011 11:03 pm

Fey wrote:I dont get the fuss about it. If it was the other way around they would probably even get subsidized for it.

It's an embarrassment, to have a national team that basically has only players that have African roots. You get away with it as long as they are succesful, if not, as the last years, the public is gonna moan. A couple of them is normal but not an entire team. .



they seem to have the double-nationality problem like we do in Germany

or rather

in Germany the "ethnic" kids often play for the German U-teams and then switch at senior level because they don't have a chance with the Mannschaft or feel loyalty towards their ancestors

see Ekici, Altintop, Sahin, Matip, Choupo-Moting, Boateng...

it's frankly a SCANDAL

and I can understand Blanc's FURY with this nonsense 100%

you need players who IDENTIFY with only ONE country FULLY

the national shirt is not a club shirt

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you should select players based on MERIT

BUT

a national team should also REPRESENT the ENTIRE country

and the French team has often looked completely devoid of white French faces

which is NOT on, unless the white boys are really quite a lot worse

the same should apply to every country

if the entire Nationalmannschaft consisted only of players from the Saarland or Saxony, you can bet your mortgage that there would be an outcry in Bavaria or NRW

in fact, if NOT ONE Bayern Munich player was a starter for Germany there would be an outcry in Säbener Strasse as well, irrespective of whether we won a title or not

so why not insist that a few white boys should feature in EVERY team

unless it's gets silly in terms of their lack of playing ability

personally, I ALWAYS HATE QUOTAS

but if I was in charge of the Mannschaft, I would always try to have at least one ethnic Turk as well in the First 11


our Deutsch-Türken are brilliant players and in terms of fairness and integration purposes it only makes sense to make the team as all-inclusive as possible

just don't introduce proper quotas or become dogmatic about it

word on the streets in Munich is that the FFF has become so politically correct, that they bend over backwards to accommodate the "minorities" at the expense of the white Frenchies

for instance, the only meat they serve is now HALAL meat

it's requested by Ribery and Co and the FFF cannot be bothered to provided ALL the ethnic foods , so they go with the stuff EVERYBODY can eat

frankly RIDICULOUS

similar stuff to our LEITKULTUR debate in Germany

before criticizing Blanc you really need the facts first

my hunch is that he is on to something
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Post by Ä on Thu May 05, 2011 11:56 am

some background info from Die Zeit

in the last years the FRENCH National Academy in Clairefontaine has only produced 4 FRENCH Internationals Yikes

yet

26 Internationals for countries like ALGERIA, SENEGAL....

Yikes

ie

the French FA is nowadays investing time and money and other resources into grooming non-French internationals

THAT was the basis for the QUOTA idea

along the lines of " most of the double-passport players do NOT play
for FRANCE upon leaving Clairefontaine, so what can we do to have more
SINGLE-passport players that CANNOT leave us? "

the best solution would be to go via FIFA/UEFA

but they only recently changed the rule and now it's possible to play
for another national team unless you have a cap for an competitive
A-game

Doh

in THAT case, the football associations have to SELECT the
single-passport players THEMSELVES at an early stage, which ends up
being called racism

OR

they manage to persuade the double-passport players to stay with their respective countries

which ain't easy (also see the anthem topic)

ie

stom in a teacup Doh
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Post by Fade out on Thu May 05, 2011 12:18 pm

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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu May 05, 2011 12:46 pm

While migrants choosing to play for the countries of their parents and grand parents after representing their country of birth on the youth level is indeed a problem - a lot of time and money is spend on their education for which there is zero compensation, not to mention the moral dilemma - quotas simply can not be the solution. No court could possibly approve such a system in a democracy, and rightfully so, as it is against fundamental principles democratic society.

The solution can only be to improve integration, to create a more fair, just and simply 'friendlier' society in which it's easier for midgrant kids to identify themselves with their country of birth and for the majority to identify themselves with those kids representing them. Both sides need to work on these issues, which are fundamental challenges of aging European societies in the coming decades and go well beyond football. Football can help to solve them however, but not with quotas, which are absolutely counterproductive.
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Post by Cesc Soler on Thu May 26, 2011 6:59 pm

France squad vs. Belarus, Ukraine & Poland

Gardiens: Hugo Lloris (Lyon), Steve Mandanda (Marseille), Cédric Carrasso (Bordeaux)

Défenseurs: Eric Abidal (Barcelone/ESP), Bacary Sagna (Arsenal/ANG), Adil Rami (Lille), Mamadou Sakho (Paris-SG), Patrice Evra (Manchester United/ANG), Anthony Réveillère (Lyon), Younes Kaboul (Tottenham/ANG)

Milieux: Alou Diarra (Bordeaux), Blaise Matuidi (Saint-Etienne), Yohan Cabaye (Lille), Yann Mvila (Rennes), Florent Malouda (Chelsea/ANG), Abou Diaby (Arsenal/ANG), Jérémy Menez (AS Rome/ITA), Samir Nasri (Arsenal/ANG), Franck Ribéry (Bayern Munich/ALL), Marvin Martin (Sochaux), Charles N'Zogbia (Wigan/ANG), Mathieu Valbuena (Marseille)

Attaquants: Kevin Gameiro (Lorient), Guillaume Hoarau (Paris-SG), Karim Benzema (Real Madrid/ESP), Loïc Rémy (Marseille)
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Post by Cesc Soler on Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:05 pm

France squad vs. Chile (10 August - Montpellier)

Gardiens: Hugo Lloris (Lyon), Steve Mandanda (Marseille), Cédric Carrasso (Bordeaux)

Défenseurs: Eric Abidal (Barcelone/ESP), Bacary Sagna (Arsenal/ANG), Adil Rami (Valencia/ESP), Mamadou Sakho (Paris-SG), Patrice Evra (Manchester United/ANG), Anthony Réveillère (Lyon), Younes Kaboul (Tottenham/ANG)

Milieux: Alou Diarra (Marseille), Blaise Matuidi (Paris-SG), Yohan Cabaye (Newcastle/ANG), Yann Mvila (Rennes), Florent Malouda (Chelsea/ANG), Samir Nasri (Arsenal/ANG), Marvin Martin (Sochaux)

Attaquants: Kevin Gameiro (Paris-SG), Guillaume Hoarau (Paris-SG), Karim Benzema (Real Madrid/ESP), Loïc Rémy (Marseille), Jérémy Menez (Paris-SG), Dimitri Payet (Lille)
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Post by Cesc Soler on Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:43 pm

France XI: Lloris; Sagna, Kaboul, Abidal, Clichy; Martin, M'Vila, Nasri; Rémy, Benzema, Malouda

Chile's team includes the likes of Isla, Medal, Vidal, Beausejour & Luis Jimenez

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