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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by Pirlo on Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:55 pm

Quite a day for comebacks - Juve, Siena and Bologna and Pescara almost pulling back v Samp.
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by Pirlo on Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:25 pm

New manager for Zamparini lol!

Gasperini joins Palermo until the next defeat.
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by Pierre Littbarski on Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:56 pm

Sad for Zeman but - Gilardino Violin Violin Whoop

Boriello > Gila Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Genoa Doh


Looks like Juve and napoli could run away with this.
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by bluenine on Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:41 pm

Thats such a terrible line up by Strama. I can't understand this

Inter:
1 Handanovic;
42 Jonathan, 23 Ranocchia, 40 Juan Jesus, 55 Nagatomo;
4 Zanetti, 14 Guarin, 19 Cambiasso, 31 Pereira;
10 Sneijder;
22 Milito

Inter bench: 12 Castellazzi, 27 Belec, 6 Silvestre, 7 Coutinho, 8 Palacio, 11 Alvarez, 21 Gargano, 25 Samuel, 41 Duncan, 44 Bianchetti, 88 Livaja, 99 Cassano

The bench looks better than the starting line up Doh

I would have hoped to see something like this:

Handanovic;
Zanetti - Ranocchia - Samuel - Pereira
Guarin - Gargano - Cambiasso
Coutinho - Sneijder
Milito

With Cassano to come in after HT.

The lineup Strama has put in includes defensively weak full backs, a light central midfield ahead of error prone young CB. A recipe for disaster?

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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by bluenine on Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:07 pm

What a strike by Milito!
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by bluenine on Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:46 pm

Very impressed by Inter's young CB partnership. Juan + Ranocchia were awesome tonight. If these two could produce performances like these consistently, Inter are looking at a bright future indeed.

Also good to have Alvarez back. Now if we can start turning up for games at home, it would be awesome.
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by  on Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:31 am

why is nobody on here talking about

Lazio

and

Klose ? scratch

could the Romans even snatch the title ?

and

could the German end up as Seria A top-scorer ?
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by Xavier on Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:08 pm

Nobody cares about Lazio, really... it's okay, they can keep talking about Roma, we will keep finishing ahead of them in the table. Smile

Don't think the title is within our reach, but if Klose stays fit, and Hernanes keeps his current form, I suppose it's possible... provided Juventus lose a game, of course.
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Post by Pierre Littbarski on Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:30 am

Some great goals this weekend from Hernanes, Basta, Cigarini, Arevalo Rios Blush

But i particularly liked Jovetic and Insigne where they opened up their bodies as if they were going to bend into the far corner before putting it just inside the near post.

Jovetic has great feet and is a lovely finisher.

Maxi Lopez looking the part <Ale>
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by christmasborocooper on Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:56 am

How is Jovetic looking these days? I don't get to see much Italian football. I remember some hype around him when got a goal or two vs United in the champions league 2 or 3 years back. Didn't even realise he was still quite young.
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Post by Luis on Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:46 pm

Fact - Rafa wanted Jovetic in 08/09 but the owners went for Babel instead.
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by Pras_tama on Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:23 pm

christmasborocooper wrote:How is Jovetic looking these days? I don't get to see much Italian football. I remember some hype around him when got a goal or two vs United in the champions league 2 or 3 years back. Didn't even realise he was still quite young.

I don't think he ever scored or played against United in the UCL before
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Post by bluenine on Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:45 pm

Pras_tama wrote:
christmasborocooper wrote:How is Jovetic looking these days? I don't get to see much Italian football. I remember some hype around him when got a goal or two vs United in the champions league 2 or 3 years back. Didn't even realise he was still quite young.

I don't think he ever scored or played against United in the UCL before

It was 2 goals against Liverpool.

Jojo is a fuckin star. Probably the biggest one left in Serie A now that Ibra is gone. He has been one of my favourite players from the first game I saw him play 4 years ago, when he reminded me of Baggio. And he still plays quite like Baggio.

Unfortunately, he will now cost too much for Inter. There is no way we can afford him. I had written an article earlier this year on how Inter should sell Sneijder and a few other players to fund a move for Jovetic. Unfortunately, that boat as sailed Sad

Jojo will probably end up with Real, Barca, City or PSG... I still think he will be a contender for the FIFA Ballan d'Or one day.
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by abundance on Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:40 pm

Luis wrote:Fact - Rafa wanted Jovetic in 08/09 but the owners went for Babel instead.
Fiction? Babel went to Liverpool the year before.

bluenine wrote:Jojo is a fuckin star.
Yay, best gift to Fiorentina from an already declining Corvino.
If he didn't miss the whole '10/'11 for injury he'd already be snapped by some arab.
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by bluenine on Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:53 am

Before the season started, I assumed that Samuel, Silvestre and Chivu will be our key CB's this season... But Ranocchia and Juan, wow! These youngsters are teaching the old guard how to defend at the mo. Looks like our future is already here...

The line up I hope to see against Rubin Kazan:

Milito
Coutinho - Palacio
Gargano - Cambiasso - Alvarez
Pereira - Juan - Ranocchia - Zanetti
Handanovic

Time to give Guarin and Sneijder some rest. Or we could do some all out attacking to get rid of the home jinx:


Milito
Coutinho - Sneijder - Palacio
Gargano - Cambiasso
Pereira - Juan - Ranocchia - Zanetti
Handanovic

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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by Jason Jarrett on Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:16 pm

And once again Italian clubs don't take the Europa League seriously
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by Pirlo on Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:19 pm

Stunning rocket from the Pharaoh, 1-1

Mexes/Abbiati completely at fault for Udinese's first
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by Pirlo on Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:42 pm

This is hilarious, both brain-dead runners sent off, and my pre-season prediciton of complete collapse looking vindicated after every game Very Happy
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by Tarun on Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:45 pm

Hmmm...both Milan teams are trailing!!!
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by Pirlo on Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:35 pm

So, likely Roma will be awarded the game 3-0, although Zeman would prefer it to be recorded 6-3.
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Post by bluenine on Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:32 am

Pirlo wrote:This is hilarious, both brain-dead runners sent off, and my pre-season prediciton of complete collapse looking vindicated after every game Very Happy

At least you guys have an excuse, you had two players sent off. Inter were so disappointing today, it was a shocking display. Strama needs to come up the learning curve fast, this was not the game to rest JZ for the first time in over 4 years. Inter missed his intensity and the inspiration his presence has on the other players in the team.

Maybe we judged Guarin too soon, he is not even half the player he was during the pre-season.

I know this is year zero, and this team and coach need time to develop, but does it have to be so goddamn depressing??
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by abundance on Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:00 am

bluenine wrote:Strama needs to come up the learning curve fast, this was not the game to rest JZ for the first time in over 4 years. Inter missed his intensity and the inspiration his presence has on the other players in the team.
Rolling Eyes
Like he would've make any difference to the issues we have.
Our issues are midfield, midfield, midfield, fitness, age, complacency, technical limits, distances between the lines, defensive contribution of the forwards, and did i mention midfield?

Besides, you've got to come to terms with the fact that a 39 y.o. can't fucking play every 3 days.
And btw, he didn't miss a game in one of the most uninspired seasons I can remember.
This may look a low dig, but I'm just saying legend != miracle maker. Zanetti has always been an example, but very rarely a team grit igniter.
Anyway this is just pub chat. Playing Zanetti on thursday and sunday is a big no for me, period.


bluenine wrote:I know this is year zero, and this team and coach need time to develop, but does it have to be so goddamn depressing??
What is depressing is that if you look at the squad composition this is not a year zero, this is another transition year.
Anyway I still believe that given the league level we can mount a decent challenge for 3rd if we work HARD and we keep honest regarding our limits.

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Post by bluenine on Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:57 am

abundance wrote:
Like he would've make any difference to the issues we have.
Our issues are midfield, midfield, midfield, fitness, age, complacency, technical limits, distances between the lines, defensive contribution of the forwards, and did i mention midfield?

Besides, you've got to come to terms with the fact that a 39 y.o. can't fucking play every 3 days.
And btw, he didn't miss a game in one of the most uninspired seasons I can remember.
This may look a low dig, but I'm just saying legend != miracle maker. Zanetti has always been an example, but very rarely a team grit igniter.
Anyway this is just pub chat. Playing Zanetti on thursday and sunday is a big no for me, period.

No, you are wrong. Zanetti is 19. He can play every single day if need be, all year long. You think that superman resemblance is just a coincidence? Razz



I hear ya, mate. It will be difficult, but we have to come to terms with JZ being rotated from now on... I know he is not the answer - one player cannot resolve our deep rooted issues, but I just missed the captain in a game like that. His runs this season have been the only cheerful moments in otherwise soul-sucking nights at the Meazza...

abundance wrote:What is depressing is that if you look at the squad composition this is not a year zero, this is another transition year.
Anyway I still believe that given the league level we can mount a decent challenge for 3rd if we work HARD and we keep honest regarding our limits.
In a way, it is year zero, coz there are many promising young players with potential around. Juan, Ranocchia, Alvarez, Coutinho, M'baye, Livaja, Obi, Duncan, etc... Some of these players could become the foundation of a new glorious cycle. But the way some of them have been playing (Guarin, Jonathan, Pereira, Silvestre, etc), it could end up being another wasted transitional year, rather than year zero. So I see your point.

Our objective is to qualify for CL. Nothing more, nothing less. And we are only 3 points off that at the moment. I'm trying hard to focus on the glass half full right now.
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by abundance on Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:30 pm

It's a transition season because the coach is a gamble and half the squad and half the 1st eleven is still made of stop-gap or declining players.

It will be year zero when almost all the 1st choice team will feature players that, provided that they gel and perform, you could see rocking it for us two or three season in the future.

As of today I'd only put Handanovic, Ranocchia, Jesus, Pereira, Guarin, Coutinho, and maybe Obi and Alvarez in that group, and the latter 3 are still fringe players.
Wouldn't call this a wasted season, but we're not there yet.
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Post by bluenine on Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:50 pm

abundance wrote:It's a transition season because the coach is a gamble and half the squad and half the 1st eleven is still made of stop-gap or declining players.

It will be year zero when almost all the 1st choice team will feature players that, provided that they gel and perform, you could see rocking it for us two or three season in the future.

As of today I'd only put Handanovic, Ranocchia, Jesus, Pereira, Guarin, Coutinho, and maybe Obi and Alvarez in that group, and the latter 3 are still fringe players. Wouldn't call this a wasted season, but we're not there yet.

You are looking at the glass half empty, I am trying to focus on the glass half full.

I would add Sneijder and Gargago to your list (Sneijder may not be producing his best form, but I wouldn't call him a declining player at 28), which takes the total to 9 (not including Obi in this list yet). The only place we lack at the moment is upfront, where we bought "present players" Cassano and Palacio, instead of planing for the future.

Then there are the youth players. Obi, Livaja, M'Baye, Duncan, Bessa, and Belec. Add to these the youngsters out on loan/co-ownership - Alborno, Benedetti, Crisetig, Caldirola & Longo. Talented as they are, I know the success rate for players that age is low, but we are sure to convert at least 3-4 first-teamers from this group.

For me "year zero" represents the start of a new cycle, and that clearly is the state at Inter this season. By your definition, you may want to call this Year -1. Either way, its gonna take time before we expect results. Its not just about these players gelling, but also about the learning curve of the youth players, and more importantly, the learning curve of Strama.
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by Tarun on Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:47 pm

Big game tonight - Fiorentina Vs Juventus

Some notable contests today - Two of the best midfields in the league & it's JoJo Vs Quags.

I think Montella has done a good job so far and he is a coach to watch out for the future. Expecting a fiery contest today as the Berbatov incident has added to the already flourishing hostility. Prade is still whining although Marotta has already clarified his position. When the guy never wanted to join the Viola and for that matter even Juve, why blame it on us.
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

Post by Pierre Littbarski on Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:43 pm

Ljajic Doh


What happened to cerci BTW - went from being linked with City to loan at Torino in the space of a year !
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Post by bluenine on Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:48 pm

How are Fiorentina not ahead yet?? Great game to watch.
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Post by bluenine on Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:56 pm

Juve were lucky to escape with a point there. Viola were impressive, almost as good as the Prandelli days. They are going to tear Inter a new one this weekend at San Zero Sad
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Re: Serie A TIM 2012/13

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