Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

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worms rises

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Re: Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

Post by worms rises on Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:38 pm

Jaime wrote:
messiah wrote:
Jaime wrote:
messiah wrote:i'm bot going to point out that puyol is 5'10 and alves 5'8, I'm not going to point out that we don't concede goals on set pieces because of the mere fact that we don't concede many set pieces per game, probably the lost of any big team.

You don't have a clue do you.

make this shit too easy

AKA "the Victor Valdes phenomenon". Ale

you do realize that all the criticism of VV can be made at iker when he plays for spain

The iker Phenomenon when he plays for spain

Spain concede a lot more chances than Barcelona, Spain play with less possession than Barcelona. Spain is not Barcelona. Ale

Still, Iker is under the gun plenty at RM thereby proving that he is not subject to "the Victor Valdes Phenomenon" cheers

That's not true at all.
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messiah

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Re: Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

Post by messiah on Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:49 pm

I thought it was said that a great goalkeeper is one that can maintain concentration even when he is not doing much and make the saves when the time comes.

is that not the case any more

2011 save % rankings:
Valdes 79% - Neuer 78% - Hart 76% - Casillas 75% - Reina 72% [via optasports]

2008 Euro : 56,6%
2010 World Cup : 65,2%
2012 Euro : 68,2%

Barca 68%

anyways just messing about
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Re: Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

Post by The Easter Bunny on Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:18 am

messiah wrote:I thought it was said that a great goalkeeper is one that can maintain concentration even when he is not doing much and make the saves when the time comes.

is that not the case any more

2011 save % rankings:
Valdes 79% - Neuer 78% - Hart 76% - Casillas 75% - Reina 72% [via optasports]

2008 Euro : 56,6%
2010 World Cup : 65,2%
2012 Euro : 68,2%

Barca 68%

anyways just messing about

Concentration is key along with the type of shots faced. If Valdes faces 5 long ranged shots in a match and saves 5 his save ratio is 100%, if Iker faces 5 one on ones, but concedes one his save ratio will only be 80% despite facing a harder type of chance.

Anyway, http://youtu.be/cNRniRp_tOs Coupet Ale
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Re: Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

Post by messiah on Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:36 am

you are aware that due to the way barcelona and spain play, A by product of that is that most shots faced by the keepers are in fact one on ones, its their to see in the last euros as I know football fans have short memories.

You press you play a high line, once its broken their is nothing between the attacker and the goalkeeper.
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Re: Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

Post by messiah on Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:45 am

came across a stat on fcblive the other day that said VV was the keeper to face the most one on one last season, something like 60+%, but i have been searching for it and can't find it.

People need to think though their points before making them are at least watch more football, because if you did you would notice that teams don't shoot outside the box much against us.
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Re: Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

Post by The Easter Bunny on Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:49 am

messiah wrote:came across a stat on fcblive the other day that said VV was the keeper to face the most one on one last season, something like 60+%, but i have been searching for it and can't find it.

People need to think though their points before making them are at least watch more football, because if you did you would notice that teams don't shoot outside the box much against us.

I know that, I was just making an extreme example, unlike most of the English people I actually quite rate Valdes he has made clear progression and is unlucky to be playing in an era of great Spanish keepers. Otherwise I firmly believe he would be a lot more highly rated by the press in England ok

worms rises

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Re: Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

Post by worms rises on Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:59 am

Valdes is better than Reina nowadays.
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Re: Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

Post by messiah on Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:10 am

over the past 4-5 years he has been one of the best keepers in the world without a shadow of a doubt

Iker
Buffon
VV
Neuer
?

In no particular order are the best
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Re: Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

Post by Batman on Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:49 pm

Before:
Your team's best XI from 2011-12?

De Gea

Jones - Ferdinand - Evans - Evra

Valencia - Carrick - Scholes - Nani

Welbeck - Rooney

After:
Your team's new look starting XI for 2012-13?(confirmed signings/strong rumours)

De Gea

Rafael - Ferdinand - Vidic - Evra

Carrick - Scholes

Lucas - Kagawa - Nani

Van Persie

Verdict:
Happy with the potential makeover?

That sh*t cray, but we still need a CM player.
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Re: Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

Post by Pras_tama on Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:36 am

RvP over Rooney?
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Re: Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

Post by bluenine on Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:28 am

Before:
Cesar
Maicon - Lucio - Samuel - Zanetti
Stankovic - Cambiasso
Zarate - Sneijder - Forlan
Milito

After:
Handanovic
Jonathan - Silvestre - Samuel - Zanetti
Cambiasso - Guarin
Palacio - Sneijder - Coutinho
Milito

Verdit: Inter are reducing their wage bill, this is necessary. Even Sneijder might go, and be replaced by Alvarez in the starting XI. Its a new Inter.
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Re: Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

Post by Batman on Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:49 pm

Pras_tama wrote:RvP over Rooney?

Based on last season, but if we did sign RVP then i think SAF would play them both
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Re: Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

Post by Romford Pele on Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:59 pm

I think Arsenal's transfers may be going on until deadline day so it's hard to do one at the moment.
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Re: Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

Post by ERIK LAMELA on Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:31 pm

Before (our most common XI last season, not necessarily our 'best' in my opinion):

--------Friedel

Walker-Kaboul-King-AssouEkotto

-------Parker-Modric

Lennon-----VDV-------Bale

---------Adebayor


Now:

---------Gomes*

Walker-Kaboul-Vertonghen-BAE

------Sandro-Sigurdsson*

Lennon-----VDV--------Bale

---------Adebayor

*We have been heavily linked with Lloris but that has gone quiet lately so I have put Gomes in this side instead. As for Sigurdsson's place, I do not believe he was signed as Modric's replacement, and I feel we will bring somebody in, but not Moutinho.

Verdict: Modric is irreplaceable and is the hub of our team so that is obviously a big hit. King, for the first half of last season, was also superb and I do not expect Vertonghen to perform at that same level, but having a settled defensive partnership will be a benefit. Replacing Friedel with a more proactive goalkeeper is a big plus for me.

Overall I think it is a step down, however AVB's implementation of a 'system', as opposed to a reliance upon individuals performing, will mean the loss of Modric will not be felt as much as it would have been under Redknapp.

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Re: Summer 2012 Transfer Window Makeover

Post by worms rises on Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:23 pm

Can't believe the yids are still happy with esta a cotto,he's shite.

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