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Post by Jaime on Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:09 pm

FCB 2014/15

Neymar----------Dongou-----------Alexis

----------Iniesta---------Cesc

----------------Busquets

Adriano-----Pique-----D. Luiz-----D. Alves

---------------Ter Stegen

Ale

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Post by Formerly known as sheva7 on Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:44 pm

shazlx wrote:
Jaime wrote:Outrageous some of the details that are coming out now with this whole Neymar business. They paid him an extra 2,5m euro bonus in his contract so that he would "accept to play where the manager tells him to play".

Mes que un club. Ale

lol!lol!lol!lol!lol!

 Rolling Eyes 

Regardless of transfer fee, to indulge a player who is still very much unproven like that is embarrassing for Barcelona. Genuinely terrible. All things considered, its going to be very difficult for Neymar to be considered an unqualified transfer success. He's going to have to be more than a respected high level starter like Deco/ Villa. IMO, he'll have to be out of this world, Ronaldinho levels of genius.

Do you really think that Rosell is that naive? That all the money went to Neymar and his father? Probably a considerable amount of this money ended up in Rossel's pocket.
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Post by Jaime on Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:50 pm

Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:
shazlx wrote:
Jaime wrote:Outrageous some of the details that are coming out now with this whole Neymar business. They paid him an extra 2,5m euro bonus in his contract so that he would "accept to play where the manager tells him to play".

Mes que un club. Ale

lol!lol!lol!lol!lol!

 Rolling Eyes 

Regardless of transfer fee, to indulge a player who is still very much unproven like that is embarrassing for Barcelona. Genuinely terrible. All things considered, its going to be very difficult for Neymar to be considered an unqualified transfer success. He's going to have to be more than a respected high level starter like Deco/ Villa. IMO, he'll have to be out of this world, Ronaldinho levels of genius.

Do you really think that Rosell is that naive? That all the money went to Neymar and his father? Probably a considerable amount of this money ended up in Rossel's pocket.  

It wouldn't be a surprise!
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Post by Super Progress on Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:53 pm

Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:
shazlx wrote:
Jaime wrote:Outrageous some of the details that are coming out now with this whole Neymar business. They paid him an extra 2,5m euro bonus in his contract so that he would "accept to play where the manager tells him to play".

Mes que un club. Ale

lol!lol!lol!lol!lol!

 Rolling Eyes 

Regardless of transfer fee, to indulge a player who is still very much unproven like that is embarrassing for Barcelona. Genuinely terrible. All things considered, its going to be very difficult for Neymar to be considered an unqualified transfer success. He's going to have to be more than a respected high level starter like Deco/ Villa. IMO, he'll have to be out of this world, Ronaldinho levels of genius.

Do you really think that Rosell is that naive? That all the money went to Neymar and his father? Probably a considerable amount of this money ended up in Rossel's pocket.  
Do you have any insight from Brazil about this?
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Post by Jaime on Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:06 pm

Ooooh! No elections! Bartomeu is gonna stick around until 2016, it keeps getting better and better. lol!
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Post by Jaime on Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:33 pm

Just seen that Rosell is also under investigation for two counts of fraud from his time as president of Nike Brasil and is facing up to 8 years of prison in Brasil if found guilty. This guy is unbelievable. Doh

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Post by Formerly known as sheva7 on Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:01 pm

Jaime wrote:Just seen that Rosell is also under investigation for two counts of fraud from his time as president of Nike Brasil and is facing up to 8 years of prison in Brasil if found guilty. This guy is unbelievable. Doh

This is old news here. Rosell is a close friend to Ricardo Teixeira, former brazilian FA President, who alongside his father in law João Havelange, is the biggest corrupt the world of football has ever seen. Funny to see that all three ended the same way: resigning and running away.


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Post by messiah on Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:35 pm

Jaime wrote:FCB 2014/15

Neymar----------Dongou-----------Alexis

----------Iniesta---------Cesc

----------------Busquets

Adriano-----Pique-----D. Luiz-----D. Alves

---------------Ter Stegen

Ale

where is messi!!!!!!


I hope the socios protest, their needs to be elections and whatever he wants to name is just as guilty as rosell
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Post by messiah on Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:36 pm

i am 100% sure rosell pocketed some of the money and thats the real reason behind him running off
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Post by Jaime on Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:43 am

messiah wrote:
Jaime wrote:FCB 2014/15

Neymar----------Dongou-----------Alexis

----------Iniesta---------Cesc

----------------Busquets

Adriano-----Pique-----D. Luiz-----D. Alves

---------------Ter Stegen

Ale

where is messi!!!!!!


I hope the socios protest, their needs to be elections and whatever he wants to name is just as guilty as rosell

Messi is in PSG of course!
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Post by Jaime on Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:00 pm

From Balague:

Sandro Rosell and Barcelona Set for a Bumpy Ride over Neymar Deal

The decision of Sandro Rosell to fall on his sword following a court case that will explore the dubious details of Neymar’s move to Barcelona promises to be only the first bombshell in a story that looks set to run and run.

Barcelona have their backs against the wall, and to quote Winston Churchill who knew a bit about fighting with your back against the wall, “this is not the beginning of the end, but just the end of the beginning.”

Rosell insists Barcelona have done absolutely nothing wrong, and he asked the judge to call him to court so he could abandon the limits imposed by confidentiality clauses in the contracts, which stop him from explaining at length how Barcelona bought Neymar.

So how did we come to this?

Everything starts with doubts emanating from the Barcelona dressing room in regards to just how much Barcelona paid for Neymar and what exactly he was being paid.

The official line was that he cost €57.1 million and would receive a salary of €7 million a year after tax.

There was, however, the small matter of €40 million commission paid to a company called N and N, owned by Neymar’s father and the player himself, as reported by El Mundo Deportivo (h/t ESPN). That money divided among the five years of the contract lifted the player’s wages to €15 million a year, again after tax, and made him the club’s top earner. At the moment, Lionel Messi has to survive on €13 million a year after tax.

In fact, you can go back in time to find other reasons for what we are seeing now. In 2011, Real Madrid approached Neymar and even went as far as to give him a medical, little realising that he had already agreed to join Barcelona. After the medical he informed the White club of his new destination. To say the Castilian club was not amused would be an understatement.

Real, who never need much of an excuse to beat Barcelona with a stick, then made it clear that when they tried to sign Neymar at the last minute, they found out that the true figure would have been around €150 million, so the €57.1 million being quoted was simply not true.

People wanted to know what was going on, not least season ticket holder Jordi Cases, but when he asked the questions, the silence was deafening. Unable to get any answers, Snr Cases chose to take the legal route.

And so it was that in court the judge, Snr Pablo Ruz, adjudicated that indeed there was “sufficient evidence” to open an investigation into the payment of €40 million commission to the N and N company.

To that end, Ruz has asked FIFA to send all documentation pertaining to the deal, as well as the contract made between the club and N and N. The judge has also declared that an investigative commission in Brazil should receive all work contracts and transfer details.

There’s also the small matter of €7-9 million paid for the rights on three youth players at Santos and another €9 million for the playing of two friendlies against the Brazilian club.

Add to this a clause that means Barcelona will pay Neymar’s father to discover footballing talent in Brazil, which could prove problematic for him bearing in mind that he lives in Spain.

There’s also another clause that states that the player should be paid more in the event of him being played out of position, and on an altruistic note one that designates money for the poor from the Rio favelas.

The official line from Rosell is that with the judge deciding there is a case to answer, he felt the correct thing to do was stand down and fight the matter and not affect the credibility of the club.

He also talked about having received threats and how that had affected his family.

Never totally at home carrying the mantle of the presidency, I don’t believe Laporta ever took on the role because of a deep love, but rather from a sense of commitment to the club and also to the huge forces, political and financial, that have backed him.

The good news for Rosell is that, for the time being, the judge considers that it is neither “urgent nor necessary” to charge him and it is the contract that needs investigating. The bad news is that Snr Cases is looking to prosecute Rosell personally.

Fasten your seat belts; it’s going to be a bumpy ride.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1935094-sandro-rosell-and-barcelona-set-for-a-bumpy-ride-over-neymar-deal

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Post by messiah on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:51 pm

rosell just saw neymar as money bags and thought if he spent crazy money on him, he would recoup all and more over the course of his contract, which is why he bump so much money in to get his image rights, but he was a stupid corrupt fucker and most barca fans knew it, soooo happy he is gone.
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Post by Jaime on Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:02 pm

Yeah but you still have Bartomeu who was there in lockstep with Rosell the whole way.
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Post by messiah on Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:57 pm

Jaime wrote:Yeah but you still have Bartomeu who was there in lockstep with Rosell the whole way.

exactly why I want new elections
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Post by Fey on Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:53 pm

Messi Rolling Eyes





That joke nearly costed more as Neymar's dad!
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Post by Jaime on Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:18 pm

Former Barça president Josep Lluís Núñez, sentenced to 2.5 years in jail for stealing 13 M€ in public funds.

Mes que un club. Ale

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Post by Fey on Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:46 pm

Barca is humiliating Madrid with their new stadium plans!






Where do they pay it from Laughing
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Post by messiah on Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:42 pm

thiago sets a record for number of completed passes in a game, and its not at barca.

another big fuck you to rosell and tito
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Post by Jaime on Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:38 pm

Ok messiah let's see how you do.

http://www.sporcle.com/games/Freddie/UCLBarcelona

I got 174. So many c*nts.

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Post by Jaime on Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:41 pm

Btw, Chygrinskiy didn't make any of the XIs. Neither did Keirrison. ok
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Post by toon h on Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:08 pm

evening guys, I see nothing has changed here!
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Post by Rosicky on Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:11 pm

hi glenn.
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Post by toon h on Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:26 pm

Jaime wrote:Ok messiah let's see how you do.

http://www.sporcle.com/games/Freddie/UCLBarcelona

I got 174. So many c*nts.


impressive. I only got 157, can't believe some I missed out, though would never have guessed Okunowo and couldn't find the right spelling for Beguiristain...
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Post by toon h on Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:26 pm

Rosicky wrote:hi glenn.

?

long time Rosicky!

is Glenn still about?
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Post by Jaime on Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:11 pm

toon h wrote:evening guys, I see nothing has changed here!

toon!!!!!!!! nice one mate, how've you been?
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Post by toon h on Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:19 pm

Jaime wrote:
toon h wrote:evening guys, I see nothing has changed here!

toon!!!!!!!! nice one mate, how've you been?


been well Jaime, good to hear from you. Living in England now. Good to see you still here. I've just come in time to bear witness to the crumbling of the Barcelona empire Wink

Hope to get back on a little again, how's the board been?
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Post by toon h on Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:23 pm

impossible to summarise all that has gone wrong with our team in the last 2 years, so I will just try to ease back into the daily discussions and just ignore the lack of focus, hunger and strategic thinking that has plagued our club. Nice to see so many familiar posters still on here. Was it always this clique-ey?
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Post by toon h on Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:24 pm

toon h wrote:impossible to summarise all that has gone wrong with our team in the last 2 years, so I will just try to ease back into the daily discussions and just ignore the lack of focus, hunger and strategic thinking that has plagued our club. Nice to see so many familiar posters still on here. Was it always this clique-ey?

and selling Abidal, whose idea was that????  Mad  Mad  Mad  Mad  Mad 

Hope no-one on here agreed with that one...(Madridistas excluded)
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Post by Jaime on Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:02 pm

toon h wrote:
Jaime wrote:
toon h wrote:evening guys, I see nothing has changed here!

toon!!!!!!!! nice one mate, how've you been?


been well Jaime, good to hear from you. Living in England now. Good to see you still here. I've just come in time to bear witness to the crumbling of the Barcelona empire Wink

Hope to get back on a little again, how's the board been?

Haha yes, dark days for you lot! Poor ol' messiah has hardly been able to come to grips with the great decline of mes que un club! Biggrin

Been a little quiet on the board of late but I still like to come by. Things will hopefully pick up with the Champions League resuming and heading towards the World Cup.


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