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Re: Arsènal FC - 2014-2015

Post by shazlx on Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:20 pm

Allez les rouges wrote:No, it isn't. Arteta is the obvious choice whether or not we make any more signings and whether or not he starts week in week out. He was already de facto captain last year with Vermaelen not playing, and it would be a needless snub to pass him over now.

Merte can wear the armband when he isn't on the pitch, I don't see the problem. As if the captaincy is that important anyway.

And besides, as an all-round footballer of course Arteta is superior to Flamini.

But of course, use this as another whiny stick to berate the club for lack of ambition in this of all summers. Rolling Eyes

Bull Shit. The team is significantly and obviously weaker with Arteta playing in pretty much every-way. Its not even that Flamini is that good, its that Arteta is really that bad now.

He doesn't organise, doesn't command, is terrible at defending counter attacks, is slow at building attacks and doesn't have the athleticism to cover for the unathletic Mertesacker. He used to be a calming presence but he's so poor under pressure these days that he doesn't even provide that. Arteta should be behind Flamini and Wilshere to partner Ramsey never mind the new DM.

We had a really solid working central midfield last season until Arteta came back from injury. The next best CM partnership was Flamini and Wilshere (bayern)

Captaincy isn't important. But the prospects of Arteta starting regularly (or at all really) is really showing no desire to compete for the league. There should really be too many players ahead of Arteta in the pecking order for him to start any important games if we are going to be competitive.
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Post by Ä on Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:50 pm

Isco Benny wrote:I have a friend who works for Arsenal's media team
He told me all the senior players at the club are well mannered, polite and likeable, except for Podolski. Thick, rude and overly self important. Cant say what hes like in the dressing room with other players, however its no secret apparently that hes not very well liked by the people at Arsenal.

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makes you wonder what kind of friends you have , bernd

maybe an imaginary one ?

Poldi is one of the top guys out there; polite, supernice, humble, down to earth

bizarrely, he is also one of the smartest German players out there; together with Müller and Hummels he gives the best interviews by far

he is immensely well liked by his fellow players as well

only the other day Arsenal legend PIRES said that Poldi may not be the typical Wenger player, but that his direct game was not only very effective but also that his well-natured prankster personality was a HUGE hit in the dressing room

others holiday on luxury yachts, Poldi returns to his Polish roots to barbeque with his relatives

in Munich though he did not read the local mentality all too well

he specifically moved out of Munich to live on the bank of Pilsensee in Seefeld

the idea was to shield his privacy

problem was that in Bavaria, in small villages, you have a strong community spirit and CANNOT really cut yourself off; neighbours , for instance, celebrate the birth of your kids by erecting a POLE in your garden; Poldi misunderstood this completely, and felt strangers were imposing on him

Poldi sought anonimity and got a new family

other than those silly cultural differences, Poldi is one of the nicest blokes you will find anywhere


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Re: Arsènal FC - 2014-2015

Post by TheCrazy58 on Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:59 pm

what do you mean he got a new family? What did he do with the old one?  Bam 
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Post by Isco Benny on Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:44 am

My friend is an excellent judge of character Otto (obviously...)...
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Post by Ä on Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:04 am

Isco Benny wrote:My friend is an excellent judge of character Otto (obviously...)...

of course he is




bear in mind though, bernd

that not all vegetables are easy to read
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Re: Arsènal FC - 2014-2015

Post by Allez les rouges on Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:08 am

shazlx wrote:
Allez les rouges wrote:No, it isn't. Arteta is the obvious choice whether or not we make any more signings and whether or not he starts week in week out. He was already de facto captain last year with Vermaelen not playing, and it would be a needless snub to pass him over now.

Merte can wear the armband when he isn't on the pitch, I don't see the problem. As if the captaincy is that important anyway.

And besides, as an all-round footballer of course Arteta is superior to Flamini.

But of course, use this as another whiny stick to berate the club for lack of ambition in this of all summers. Rolling Eyes

Bull Shit. The team is significantly and obviously weaker with Arteta playing in pretty much every-way. Its not even that Flamini is that good, its that Arteta is really that bad now.

He doesn't organise, doesn't command, is terrible at defending counter attacks, is slow at building attacks and doesn't have the athleticism to cover for the unathletic Mertesacker. He used to be a calming presence but he's so poor under pressure these days that he doesn't even provide that. Arteta should be behind Flamini and Wilshere to partner Ramsey never mind the new DM.

We had a really solid working central midfield last season until Arteta came back from injury. The next best CM partnership was Flamini and Wilshere (bayern)

Captaincy isn't important. But the prospects of Arteta starting regularly (or at all really) is really showing no desire to compete for the league. There should really be too many players ahead of Arteta in the pecking order for him to start any important games if we are going to be competitive.

Well that's very harsh. Of course Arteta can be overrun in midfield if not given sufficient support (it was a bizarre and rather arrogant decision to leave Flamini out for the Chelsea debacle, for instance), but it's unfair to single him out exclusively for a team problem. He offers shape and structure to our game, and different defensive qualities to Flamini's more, ah, combative style. It's not controversial to point out he's a better footballer, in fact it's obvious, so I'm unclear why you shouted that bit down.

He won't continue to get picked if he keeps getting overrun. Wenger seems to see Wilshere as a real option in deep midfield, or at least together with Ramsey and Arteta in a 4-3-3 – we'll see how much of a good idea that is. Ideally I'd like to see a real DM there too, I just wouldn't single out Arteta as the main problem defensively ahead of Flamini, Ramsey and Wilshere (or indeed Ox, who's played there) – we're one defensive player light in that area, and that's the problem if Arteta is left to cover an area on his own where he needs support.

Are Chelsea really planning on playing Cesc deep with Matic, by the way?

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Post by 110% on Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:47 pm

Speaking of arsenal midfielders, I hear Diaby is injured again.

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Post by The Pröfessör on Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:45 pm

It looks like Giroud is out for 3 months - fantastic Rolling Eyes



How the fuck did he break his ankle from that?!!!!
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Post by TheCrazy58 on Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:55 pm

It looks like this has put Podolski's potential move to Juve on hold. Only sensible option open to us, really. We'd be held to ransom if we went into the market for a replacement striker now.

Some talk about us talking to Carvalho at Sporting Lisbon, and Manolas' deal is dragging on apparently because we can't agree personal terms. Roma (who sold Benatia to Bayern today) may come in and gazump us.

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Post by stinger on Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:03 pm

Roma already announced Manolas signing.
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Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:31 pm

stinger wrote:Roma already announced Manolas signing.

Hey! You cannot make such proclamations without giving us a picture, it's just gossip otherwise:



All better.

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Post by TheCrazy58 on Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:45 pm

damn, he looked like a decent player.
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Post by The Pröfessör on Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:06 pm

Looked decent in a defensive set up, we probably dodged a bullet.

Wonder if Everton would sell Stones to us if we put in a big bid....

Very stupid to sell Vermaelen without having someone lined up (at the point of signing).
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Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:13 pm

i thought Chambers was the Vermaelen replacement?
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Post by TheCrazy58 on Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:17 pm

I think he was initially supposed to be a Jenkinson replacement ie a standby RB.
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Post by The Pröfessör on Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:19 pm

He was brought in as back up RB. He's done very well at CB I must say, but Wenger says his future lies in midfield.

Anyway, we are still light at the back, can't have a kid as our back up RB and our only back up CB.
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Post by Allez les rouges on Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:47 am

We are light at the back, for sure, but if we are lucky with injuries (haha) even to the extent we were defensively last season, we have three central defensive options (and are presumably holding on to Miquel) that I'm happy with – feel infinitely more secure with Chambers as alternative to Mertescielny than Vermaelen last season.

It's in defensive midfield that we really need an upgrade, though even then one of the issues on Saturday I thought was that we are already at our limit in terms of bedding new players in – in terms of cohesiveness and fluency that we were lacking, Chambers, Debuchy and Sanchez was quite enough to be getting on with and that can only improve.

And up front is the biggest immediate problem, assuming the bad news on Giroud is confirmed today – no one else offers what he does as a focal point of the attack, so we either need a coup signing and/or urgently need to make a success of some of the options without a natural CF (Sanchez, Walcott when he's back, Özil, Campbell, Poldi...).

Knife-edge stuff tonight. pale bounce
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Post by christmasborocooper on Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:16 am

Bring back Afobe
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Post by bluenine on Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:17 pm

Sanchez and Walcott (when fit) can pitch in as the false 9 in Giroud's absence. Not ideal, but that is not the biggest problem at Arsenal IMO. Wenger needs to focus on a proper DM that suits Arsenal's style. I was a bit worried that Arsenal might snatch away the M'Vila deal from us, luckily that did not happen. But it really beats me why Wenger still hasn't bought a proper cover for his defense. Anyone will be an upgrade on Flamini, and this isn't Arteta's or Wilshere's natural role. Should have tried harder for Khedira, but that boat seems to have sailed... maybe bring Song back?

A proper DM is necessary when you play against the top teams, I thought that was very evident last season...
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Re: Arsènal FC - 2014-2015

Post by debaser on Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:17 pm

I'm 95% sure it's just his agent opportunistically getting his name out 'cause he needs a club, but...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2735588/Nikola-Zigic-emerges-surprise-solve-Arsenal-s-striker-shortage-Olivier-Giroud-injury.html
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Post by Luis on Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:35 pm

You surely have to buy a striker before the window shuts now. I bet Wenger is regretting not making a move for Balotelli, Eto'o, Lukaku....

Arsenal had a limited focal point in attack even with Giroud so now you guys are really buggered - yes Sanchez or Walcott could fill in there but Walcott is made of glass and Sanchez already has enough pressure on him. Sanogo looks such a poor player right now IMO, seriously Ngog level at times.

Bony would still be a good option for Wenger, wouldn't be too expensive and would fit in quite nicely.
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Post by bluenine on Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:53 pm

Luis wrote:You surely have to buy a striker before the window shuts now. I bet Wenger is regretting not making a move for Balotelli, Eto'o, Lukaku....

Arsenal had a limited focal point in attack even with Giroud so now you guys are really buggered - yes Sanchez or Walcott could fill in there but Walcott is made of glass and Sanchez already has enough pressure on him. Sanogo looks such a poor player right now IMO, seriously Ngog level at times.

Bony would still be a good option for Wenger, wouldn't be too expensive and would fit in quite nicely.

Reports in Italy suggest that Arsenal have offered £16m for Cerci. Why Wenger would want yet another Winger/SS beats me. Please leave Cerci alone for Inter.
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Post by TheCrazy58 on Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:22 pm



Not currently related to Arsenal but news today that our ex-goalie Manuel Almunia has been forced to retire after being diagnosed with a potentially life-threatening heart condition.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28966630

He was never the best but came across as a nice guy who always behaved with dignity and class despite being continuously provoked by Lehmann. Hope he will be OK.
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Post by Fey on Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:32 pm

Decent goalie nontheless, Spanish people have horrible hearts.
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Post by abundance on Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:55 pm

Score one for italian sport medicine, he's been diagnosed while doing medicals for Cagliari.

It's not the first time that a footballer get stopped here after having been greenlighted for years abroad; I remember Kanu and Fadiga.
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Re: Arsènal FC - 2014-2015

Post by blutgraetsche on Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:04 pm

Will the real Mesut Özil stand up? Very possibly at Arsenal this season

With the transfer window about to close and a fairly sober set of arrivals, the player most talked about in the Premier League may be ‘the frustrating one with fizz’ who turned up in 2013

There is, as always, a sense of necessary deflation in the imminent closing of the Premier League transfer window, of an overdue sedative mercifully administered. Most notably in the case of Manchester United, who seem to have become convinced over the summer that the best way to rebuild their champion team is to assemble the most disparate, eccentric-looking group of human beings they can possibly find – Louis van Gaal! Ángel di María! Luke Shaw! A stilt walker! A curate with a limp! – like a four-year-old preparing a surprise Sunday breakfast by hurling every single thing in the fridge into a bowl and marching grandly back upstairs with it all on a tray.

Yet for all the noise it has still been a fairly sober set of new arrivals. So much so that, for the neutral, it is hard to avoid the feeling the most interesting player in this season’s Premier League turned up almost exactly a year ago to the day, returning now as the chief creative talent in a World Cup-winning team but still in England a source of deliciously more-ish exasperation. Oh, Mesut. What – if indeed anything at all – are we going to do with you?

There was even something deliciously unsatisfying about Mesut Özil’s part in Arsenal’s victory over Besiktas in midweek. What better moment, the pre-match publicity had suggested – with defeat threatening to curtail not only the Champions League season but also that sense of gears clunked into place on some as-yet-undefined new Arsenal era – for the record signing to pull himself up to his full height, take the game by the scruff and spread that cool, clear, laser-guided talent all over the full 90 minutes at the Emirates.

Or perhaps not. Instead, Özil responded by becoming more Özil-ish than ever. In the course of 77 minutes on the pitch he had no shots at goal, committed no fouls and was caught offside no times, a ghost presence lost between the lines right up until the moment he produced that snaked little sideways pass, fizzed across in search of Jack Wilshere, that led to the only goal of the tie for Alexis Sánchez. This, the Özil-ites will say, is what he does. Is it enough? Why doesn’t he do more of it?

It is a measure of Özil’s bafflingly enigmatic presence that four years on from his emergence as a world star at South Africa 2010 he still seems like a player who is yet to explore the outer fringes of his own talent, the most enticingly unfulfilled 25-year-old World Cup winner out there. Is he the best purely creative player on the planet? The definitive expression of the Deutscher Fussball-Bund’s grand historical triumph? Is he, come to think of it, actually any good at all?

Certainly at times last season Özil resembled not so much a high-end creative midfielder as some beautifully frail alien prince being ferried around from pitch to pitch by 10 dedicated human helpers yoked into fawning submission by his regal Martian glaze. In many ways his signing still looks like an act of mild debauchery for this lopsided Arsenal team, with its amusingly insistent excess of attacking midfield talent.

There is an argument that Özil simply isn’t the right player to build a team around, that he is only ever going to be a high-end component part, a needy little genius whose moments of fine-point inspiration arrive as a kind of repartee with those already at his level. Runs must be made, spaces found, angles devised, into which Özil’s own brilliantly gymnastic range of movement and passing will elegantly tessellate. Some might even say Özil has simply been lucky, that he is a kind of placebo footballer whose presence provides a garnish on trophies that would have arrived in any case, like the world’s greatest triangle player waiting in the wings to apply the perfect final tinkle with a single flex of a princely hand.

This, though, is to ignore Özil’s undeniable strengths. He may be a maverick talent, a player of absences for whom even the bad games are fascinating to watch but this isn’t a unique quality in itself. Wayne Rooney’s bad games are also gripping, in the same way watching an angry, dying walrus slowly collapsing into the tundra can still be an interesting spectacle – but the goal assists and chances created just keep on coming, even when at times he appears to be barely there himself.

Of course, Özil will surely improve this season. So far at Arsenal his main task has been managing the transitions from defence to attack but he needs company to make this work and large parts of February and March this year were spent stuck in the same pattern of fruitless movement, haring off on his own down the left wing, cutting back inside, haring off a bit more, and then repeating it all again like a shopping trolley with a broken wheel. Perhaps with the muscular, pacy, Cristiano-esque presence of Sánchez alongside him this year might be a little different.

Plus, it might just be worth paying a tiny bit of attention to what the rest of the world sees. Cristiano Ronaldo was said to be “furious” when Özil left Madrid, thereby depriving him of a fellow on-field seer and visionary. José Mourinho once compared Özil to Zinedine Zidane without attracting a chorus of enraged dissent from France. Not that the comparison really works. Zidane was a heavy artillery canon of a player, his talents – the swivel, the nudged passes the zigzagging dribbles – always highly visible. Whereas Özil at his best is a gossamer presence, a player who seems to see elite modern football’s reduced spaces as a kind of balletic mathematical challenge to be unpicked by stealth, carrying around with him at all times that flickering mental flowchart of movements and spaces and possibilities.

There is no doubt Özil will continue to frustrate those in England who prefer a more tangible sense of snap and snarl. But still, in a sport that has been so carefully parcelled out and broken down and lassoed with numerical registers of worth, it is heartening that football can still find a space for an elite-level player whose merits are so open to question, so unquantifiable at times, so hilariously and stubbornly spectral. Carry on, Mesut. As you were. We will – as ever – see you when we see you.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/aug/29/mesut-ozil-arsenal-transfer-window-premier-league


Crucial season for Özil, he has to deliver, similar to Götze in München. No excuses, he can and should do much better than he has. He has to show what he is made of.
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Post by Rosicky on Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:51 pm

Two games in and he has been utter gash so far.
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Post by TheCrazy58 on Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:13 am

Some good writing there

''There is, as always, a sense of necessary deflation in the imminent closing of the Premier League transfer window, of an overdue sedative mercifully administered. Most notably in the case of Manchester United, who seem to have become convinced over the summer that the best way to rebuild their champion team is to assemble the most disparate, eccentric-looking group of human beings they can possibly find – Louis van Gaal! Ángel di María! Luke Shaw! A stilt walker! A curate with a limp! – like a four-year-old preparing a surprise Sunday breakfast by hurling every single thing in the fridge into a bowl and marching grandly back upstairs with it all on a tray.''

''This, though, is to ignore Özil’s undeniable strengths. He may be a maverick talent, a player of absences for whom even the bad games are fascinating to watch but this isn’t a unique quality in itself. Wayne Rooney’s bad games are also gripping, in the same way watching an angry, dying walrus slowly collapsing into the tundra can still be an interesting spectacle – but the goal assists and chances created just keep on coming, even when at times he appears to be barely there himself.''

Laughing
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Post by blutgraetsche on Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:26 am

Yeah, it's classic Barney Ronay, very eloquent and 'poetic' as always. I agree with many comments of that article that a lot of people 'don't get' Özil though. Özil can be spectacular, sure, but it's the subtleties that make him a special player. He is the ultimate team player, very German in this regard, and not an 'individualist' in the classic sense. He is the glue that keeps everything together, the oil to the machine, not the engine itself.

Still, he can and should do better than he has in his first year in London. He has to regain that confidence, needs to find a better understanding with his team mates and improve his effectiveness.
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Post by TheCrazy58 on Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:08 pm




Arsenal players doing their bit to kick homophobia out of football with Paddy Power. Well executed and amusing enough (I did think about the resemblance between Walcott and Lewis Hamilton but didn' realise there was consensus.AOC does look like a teenage mutant ninja turtle Laughing )

It still doesn't excuse them (PP) from having one of the consistently annoying tv commercials around though.

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