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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Super Progress on Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:14 pm

Deluded F*ck™ wrote:Excellent game by Modric yesterday, a few bad misses by CR7 though.
Modric has been great for us.

Modric is slowly overtaking Alonso as our most important central midfielder although increasingly they are complimenting each other. The problem which has come up recently with the pro-longing of Alonso's contract extension, was that without Alonso we are toast but considering how well Modric is playing I'm much less concerned. Now we just have to find out of if Illarramendi can do well next to him or if we need more steel.*


*needless to say I'm in favor of steel.

Fey wrote:
Jaime wrote:
Kroos wrote:Boateng
Dante


Ramos is an freaking liablity in every game i`ve seen him


Meh, nobody really cares about defenders anyway. ok

 cheers  Blush

It's about the best footballers ffs.



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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:07 pm

lol!
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Pras_tama on Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:35 pm

Coentrao is getting closer to Man Utd... What kind of player is he? Is he as good as young Evra?
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Jaime on Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:59 pm

Better in the air than Evra! Personally I love Coentrao. I think he got a raw deal in Madrid simply because of how much the club paid for him. Better than Marcelo that's for sure.
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Cristiano on Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:12 pm

Modric  Magic 
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Kroos on Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:19 am

whats Di Marias role?

he really benched ISCÖ  lol! 


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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Jaime on Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:51 pm

It's hard to say benched because Ancelotti rotates a lot. Right now, it seems like he is giving Di Maria more minutes because the Argie had got his knickers all in a twist after being subbed the other day.
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Jaime on Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:58 pm

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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Fey on Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:49 pm

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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Jaime on Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:49 pm

Benzema so far this season:

La Liga: 11 goals + 3 assists/19 matches (all starts)
Champions: 2 goals + 3 assists/5 matches (all starts)
Copa del Rey: 2 goals/2 matches (all starts)

So 15 goals total from 26 matches. Not a bad return. Maybe giving some credibility to Zidane's theory that he would do better without Higuain around and thus feeling like he was the clubs main man.




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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Super Progress on Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:03 pm

He has improved from last season without a doubt but he was shit last year so that was easy to accomplish. He has some way to go compared to the Benzema of 11-12 who also didn't score many goals but was so important for our build up and also seemed much more confident in his forward play. He would take on defenders and a make nice little flicks,etc.
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Jaime on Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:36 pm

The new Santiago Bernabeu:









Typical German spaceship design. Erm

No, it's ok. I am a little disappointed that the towers will no longer be visible but, hey you have to move with the times? I think the biggest disappointment is that the project is only increasing the capacity of the stadium by about 5000 seats. Gonna cost about 400m euro. Half of it is going to be paid for by selling the naming rights to the stadium. Microsoft looks like the leading candidate.

They are saying it will be ready for the beginning of the 2017-18 season.
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by messiah on Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:23 pm

UGLY it aint got no alibi its ugly.

foster design was better
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Jaime on Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:24 pm

Ok try this without cheating! Biggrin

http://www.sporcle.com/games/Freddie/UCLRealMadrid

I got all but 2. One I should have definitely remembered because it wasn't that long ago. One was a little more obscure.
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Fey on Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:39 pm

[th][/th]
Spoiler:

[th]1995/6[/th]
GKFrancisco Buyo
DFQuique Flores
DFManolo Sanchis
DFFernando Hierro
DFChendo
MFLuis Enrique
MFFernando Redondo
MFRaul
MFJose Amavisca
STIvan Zamorano
STMichael Laudrup
[th]1997/8[/th]
GKSantiago Canizares
DFChristian Panucci
DFFernando Hierro
DFManolo Sanchis
DFRoberto Carlos
MFFernando Redondo
MFClarence Seedorf
STDavor Suker
STFernando Morientes
STRaul
STPredrag Mijatovic
[th]1998/9[/th]
GKBodo Illgner
DFChristian Panucci
DFFernando Hierro
DFManolo Sanchis
DFRoberto Carlos
MFSavio
MFClarence Seedorf
MFFernando Redondo
MFRobert Jarni
STRaul
STPredrag Mijatovic
[th]1999/0[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFMichel Salgado
DFIvan Helguera
DFIvan Campo
DFRoberto Carlos
MFFernando Redondo
MFAitor Karanka
MFSteve Mcmanaman
MFSavio
STFernando Morientes
STRaul
[th]2000/1[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFAitor Karanka
DFMichel Salgado
DFFernando Hierro
DFRoberto Carlos
MFGuti
MFIvan Helguera
MFSteve Mcmanaman
MFClaude Makelele
MFLuis Figo
STRaul
[th]2001/2[/th]
GKCesar Sanchez
DFMichel Salgado
DFFernando Hierro
DFFrancisco Pavon
DFRoberto Carlos
MFSantiago Solari
MFIvan Helguera
MFClaude Makelele
MFZinedine Zidane
STLuis Figo
STRaul
[th]2002/3[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFMichel Salgado
DFIvan Helguera
DFFernando Hierro
DFRoberto Carlos
MFEsteban Cambiasso
MFClaude Makelele
MFLuis Figo
MFZinedine Zidane
STRonaldo
STRaul
[th]2003/4[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFMichel Salgado
DFRaul Bravo
DFIvan Helguera
DFRoberto Carlos
MFDavid Beckham
MFGuti
MFLuis Figo
MFZinedine Zidane
STRonaldo
STRaul
[th]2004/5[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFMichel Salgado
DFWalter Samuel
DFIvan Helguera
DFRoberto Carlos
MFDavid Beckham
MFGuti
MFLuis Figo
MFZinedine Zidane
STRonaldo
STRaul
[th]2005/6[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFMichel Salgado
DFSergio Ramos
DFIvan Helguera
DFRoberto Carlos
MFDavid Beckham
MFThomas Gravesen
MFGuti
MFZinedine Zidane
STRobinho
STRaul
[th]2006/7[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFSergio Ramos
DFFabio Cannavaro
DFIvan Helguera
DFRoberto Carlos
MFDavid Beckham
MFMahamadou Diarra
MFGuti
MFEmerson
STRuud Van Nistelrooy
STRaul
[th]2007/8[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFSergio Ramos
DFFabio Cannavaro
DFMahamadou Diarra
DFGabriel Heinze
MFWesley Sneijder
MFFernando Gago
MFGuti
MFRobinho
STRuud Van Nistelrooy
STRaul
[th]2008/9[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFSergio Ramos
DFFabio Cannavaro
DFPepe
DFGabriel Heinze
MFRaphael van der Vaart
MFFernando Gago
MFGuti
MFArjen Robben
STGonzalo Higuain
STRaul
[th]2009/10[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFAlvaro Arbeloa
DFPepe
DFSergio Ramos
DFRaul Albiol
MFMarcelo
MFLassana Diarra
MFXabi Alonso
MFKaka
STGonzalo Higuain
STCristiano Ronaldo
[th]2010/11[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFAlvaro Arbeloa
DFPepe
DFSergio Ramos
DFRicardo Carvalho
DFMarcelo
MFXabi Alonso
MFSami Khedira
MFAngel Di Maria
MFMesut Ozil
STCristiano Ronaldo
[th]2011/12[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFAlvaro Arbeloa
DFPepe
DFSergio Ramos
DFFabio Coentrao
MFMesut Ozil
MFXabi Alonso
MFSami Khedira
MFAngel Di Maria
STKarim Benzema
STCristiano Ronaldo
[th]2012/13[/th]
GKDiego Lopez
DFRaphael Varane
DFPepe
DFSergio Ramos
DFFabio Coentrao
MFMesut Ozil
MFXabi Alonso
MFSami Khedira
MFAngel Di Maria
STKarim Benzema
STCristiano Ronaldo
Missed 9 of them. Randomed fatty even, cause I totally forgot about him. Used Karembeu and Drenthe as well, but no hit sadly. Pavones e Zidanes helped me with Pavon and wasnt sure about Gravesen. Had to giggle when that was correct.

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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Jaime on Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:16 pm

Fey wrote:
[th][/th]
Spoiler:

[th]1995/6[/th]
GKFrancisco Buyo
DFQuique Flores
DFManolo Sanchis
DFFernando Hierro
DFChendo
MFLuis Enrique
MFFernando Redondo
MFRaul
MFJose Amavisca
STIvan Zamorano
STMichael Laudrup
[th]1997/8[/th]
GKSantiago Canizares
DFChristian Panucci
DFFernando Hierro
DFManolo Sanchis
DFRoberto Carlos
MFFernando Redondo
MFClarence Seedorf
STDavor Suker
STFernando Morientes
STRaul
STPredrag Mijatovic
[th]1998/9[/th]
GKBodo Illgner
DFChristian Panucci
DFFernando Hierro
DFManolo Sanchis
DFRoberto Carlos
MFSavio
MFClarence Seedorf
MFFernando Redondo
MFRobert Jarni
STRaul
STPredrag Mijatovic
[th]1999/0[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFMichel Salgado
DFIvan Helguera
DFIvan Campo
DFRoberto Carlos
MFFernando Redondo
MFAitor Karanka
MFSteve Mcmanaman
MFSavio
STFernando Morientes
STRaul
[th]2000/1[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFAitor Karanka
DFMichel Salgado
DFFernando Hierro
DFRoberto Carlos
MFGuti
MFIvan Helguera
MFSteve Mcmanaman
MFClaude Makelele
MFLuis Figo
STRaul
[th]2001/2[/th]
GKCesar Sanchez
DFMichel Salgado
DFFernando Hierro
DFFrancisco Pavon
DFRoberto Carlos
MFSantiago Solari
MFIvan Helguera
MFClaude Makelele
MFZinedine Zidane
STLuis Figo
STRaul
[th]2002/3[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFMichel Salgado
DFIvan Helguera
DFFernando Hierro
DFRoberto Carlos
MFEsteban Cambiasso
MFClaude Makelele
MFLuis Figo
MFZinedine Zidane
STRonaldo
STRaul
[th]2003/4[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFMichel Salgado
DFRaul Bravo
DFIvan Helguera
DFRoberto Carlos
MFDavid Beckham
MFGuti
MFLuis Figo
MFZinedine Zidane
STRonaldo
STRaul
[th]2004/5[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFMichel Salgado
DFWalter Samuel
DFIvan Helguera
DFRoberto Carlos
MFDavid Beckham
MFGuti
MFLuis Figo
MFZinedine Zidane
STRonaldo
STRaul
[th]2005/6[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFMichel Salgado
DFSergio Ramos
DFIvan Helguera
DFRoberto Carlos
MFDavid Beckham
MFThomas Gravesen
MFGuti
MFZinedine Zidane
STRobinho
STRaul
[th]2006/7[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFSergio Ramos
DFFabio Cannavaro
DFIvan Helguera
DFRoberto Carlos
MFDavid Beckham
MFMahamadou Diarra
MFGuti
MFEmerson
STRuud Van Nistelrooy
STRaul
[th]2007/8[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFSergio Ramos
DFFabio Cannavaro
DFMahamadou Diarra
DFGabriel Heinze
MFWesley Sneijder
MFFernando Gago
MFGuti
MFRobinho
STRuud Van Nistelrooy
STRaul
[th]2008/9[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFSergio Ramos
DFFabio Cannavaro
DFPepe
DFGabriel Heinze
MFRaphael van der Vaart
MFFernando Gago
MFGuti
MFArjen Robben
STGonzalo Higuain
STRaul
[th]2009/10[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFAlvaro Arbeloa
DFPepe
DFSergio Ramos
DFRaul Albiol
MFMarcelo
MFLassana Diarra
MFXabi Alonso
MFKaka
STGonzalo Higuain
STCristiano Ronaldo
[th]2010/11[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFAlvaro Arbeloa
DFPepe
DFSergio Ramos
DFRicardo Carvalho
DFMarcelo
MFXabi Alonso
MFSami Khedira
MFAngel Di Maria
MFMesut Ozil
STCristiano Ronaldo
[th]2011/12[/th]
GKIker Casillas
DFAlvaro Arbeloa
DFPepe
DFSergio Ramos
DFFabio Coentrao
MFMesut Ozil
MFXabi Alonso
MFSami Khedira
MFAngel Di Maria
STKarim Benzema
STCristiano Ronaldo
[th]2012/13[/th]
GKDiego Lopez
DFRaphael Varane
DFPepe
DFSergio Ramos
DFFabio Coentrao
MFMesut Ozil
MFXabi Alonso
MFSami Khedira
MFAngel Di Maria
STKarim Benzema
STCristiano Ronaldo
Missed 9 of them. Randomed fatty even, cause I totally forgot about him. Used Karembeu and Drenthe as well, but no hit sadly. Pavones e Zidanes helped me with Pavon and wasnt sure about Gravesen. Had to giggle when that was correct.


Fey!!!!

Spoiler:
I remembered Fatty, unfortunately. The two I missed were Robert fucking Jarni and Fernando Gago! Of course I knew Jarni but I don't remember him being in the ideal XI. Was a good goal he scored against Germany though in WC 98. Basically the whole reason we signed him. Biggrin
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Jaime on Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:03 pm

Ronaldo's 3 game suspension has been upheld. So he misses Villarreal, Getafe, and Elche.
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Super Progress on Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:30 pm

Good article on why Bale is better off without Ronaldo in the team. I would very much like for Bale to slot in Ronaldo's position. He needs to be tried on the left and Bale has a great opportunity now to show that he is being held back because of wrongfull positioning by Ancelotti. However I'm not sure he will get back in form in 3 games if he is rusty again. Would also just be nice to see Jese continue on the right. Would be great to see him capable on the right side because with the new formation we could free up Ronaldo/Bale because we have Di Maria in central midfield on the left who is doing some of offensive work that Ronaldo, the nominal winger, should be doing. Jese is able to play on the right and still contribute to getting goals and chances despite him probably prefering the left side. On top of this it should help Marcelo that Di Maria can take over offensively so we don't need Marcelo bombing forward as much and Di Maria will cover/protect Marcelo when needed.



Bale steps into Ronaldo's spotlight

From Gareth Bale’s off-field persona, you wouldn’t expect him to be a superstar. He’s shy, retiring, quiet and modest and, although his commercial activities have increased significantly to reflect his development into one of Europe’s most exciting players, he’s generally keen to evade the spotlight.

In pure footballing terms, however, Bale is highly egotistical. Not in a rude, arrogant, spoilt-brat manner but in terms of his playing style. Many expected Bale to become a rampaging left-back, including the manager who made him a regular at Tottenham, Harry Redknapp.

However, the player didn’t suit a position that requires positional discipline, defensive quality and patience. He wanted to be higher up the pitch, taking on opponents and shooting.

Bale is an individualist. Attacking midfielders are generally expected to create as well as score themselves, but he has preferred to go for goal directly.

He won the PFA Footballer of the Year twice in English football, first in 2010-11, when he scored seven goals and made one assist, and again in 2012-13, when he scored 21 goals and recorded just four assists. 28-5 is an incredible goal-assist ratio for a player who isn’t an out-and-out striker.

Interestingly, in the season between those two, Bale recorded more assists (10) than goals (nine) and Tottenham finished in fourth place, their best position with him as a regular. But his quality was less celebrated despite his selflessness and the team’s superior performance. Fans, as well as Bale himself, prefer it when he’s dominating.

Bale requested a move away from his left-wing position, then played in various roles: from the right, in the centre and eventually in a free role, where he drifted around as he pleased, searching for shooting angles.

He justified this freedom with a succession of astonishing long-range goals, often from an inside-right position, and his shots-per-game ratio increased steadily in his final four campaigns at Spurs -- 1.7, 2.1, 3.8 and 5.0 -- until he was taking more shots than the majority of strikers.

At Real Madrid, of course, Cristiano Ronaldo is the main man. The Portuguese has served as Bale’s inspiration the past few years, which is evident from his positional development, through his physical progression, to the Ronaldo-esque stance he takes when preparing to take free kicks.

“I don't model my game on his because I have my own way of playing and it's not exactly the same,” Bale says. “But we do have similar attributes.”

Understanding the pecking order at Real, Bale has been content to play second fiddle and plays a more disciplined role than the current Ballon d’Or holder, with Carlo Ancelotti understanding that allowing both a free role would be tactical suicide.

But Bale remains at his best when dominating the side, and this weekend could be his chance to prove that. Ronaldo is suspended for the home match against Villarreal after his red card against Athletic Bilbao in Sunday’s 1-1 draw.

Although Real are appealing the three-match ban, which appears excessive and might be reduced, there’s little chance of the entire ban being overturned.

The past couple of seasons, when Real have been without Ronaldo, they’ve have lacked that burst of inspiration, those moments of individual magic. Angel Di Maria, Karim Benzema, Luka Modric and Xabi Alonso are fine players, but they are facilitators rather than individualists.

The same was true, to a certain extent, of Mesut Ozil and his effective replacement this season, Isco. Real had no vice-Ronaldo, with the other players giving him a platform to shine.

“We found a nice tactical system to get him goals,” Jose Mourinho has said, looking back at his period in Madrid. That meant, effectively, everyone else supplying Ronaldo, covering for him and doing his running. Bale can do that, but he also can be the Ronaldo figure when required.

It’s difficult for a side to incorporate two goal-scoring wingers playing at their maximum; even if they start on different flanks, they want to make the same movements. A decent case study is Arsenal’s 2001-02 title-winning campaign, in which Robert Pires was magnificent from the left flank, eventually winning the PFA Player of the Year award.

Freddie Ljungberg, on the other wing, played a more subtle role, scoring six goals in 19 games in the same team as Pires. But when the Frenchman’s season ended prematurely because of a serious knee injury, the Swede stepped up, and he immediately hit six goals in his next six games to become Arsenal’s main man throughout the title run-in.

Bale has been quietly impressive at Real Madrid, but he still has been overshadowed by Ronaldo. For example, when Bale hit two goals in a 7-3 win over Sevilla, Ronaldo trumped him with a hat trick. Bale managed two assists against Rayo, but Ronaldo scored twice.

There has been one exception: Bale has been Real’s best player in just one match this season, a 4-0 victory over Real Valladolid in November when he scored a hat trick and assisted the other goal. And why else was that victory significant? Well, somewhat inevitably, it was the only La Liga game Ronaldo has missed this season.

Until this weekend, that is, when Villarreal visit the Bernabeu. Although the Yellow Submarine aren’t quite as possession-based as in their previous spell in the top flight, they’re still an adventurous side and will leave gaps at the back into which Real -- and Bale -- can counterattack.

“It was a massive blow not having Cristiano playing,” insisted Bale after that Valladolid victory, before adding: “I didn't feel any pressure, to be honest.” Of course he didn’t; he thrived.

It should not be inferred, however, that Bale and Ronaldo cannot play in the same side together; Real’s best starting XI clearly features both players. Neither is it the case that Bale should become the focal point of the side.

Ronaldo’s recent world player of the year victory underlines the point that he remains Real Madrid’s star individual. However, Bale’s absolute peak might come in matches when Ronaldo is absent.

“Bale performs better without Ronaldo,” Andre Villas-Boas agreed in an interview with Portuguese newspaper O Jogo in December. “He has a far greater role in Madrid's play when Cristiano isn't playing ... at Tottenham, Bale adapted to a playing style that allowed him to have the starring role, one which made him his team's most important player.”

Bale wants to become the best individual possible. He supposedly had a long-standing desire to join Real Madrid since childhood, an interesting preference considering that his formative impression of the club was presumably throughout the Galactico years, when they favoured individualism over collective brilliance.

Bale was rested for Wednesday’s 3-0 Copa del Rey win over Atletico Madrid because Ancelotti wants him at his sharpest. Opportunities like the one this weekend don’t come along often, and, in the week Ronaldo turns 29, a star performance from the Welshman would go down nicely.

Ronaldo is hardly likely to decline rapidly soon, but his performances are difficult to replicate over extended periods, and he might become more susceptible to injury, causing him to miss more matches.

If Bale proves he can step up in his teammate’s absence, however, there’s no need for Real to worry.

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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Super Progress on Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:27 am

The case of Illarramend vs Progressivism
After the Barca game I thought perhaps I was wrong about Illarra and that he had more in him. WRONG!!

All he does is pass sideways. The only difference between him and Khedira/Diarra/etc is that he looks up as if he is going to pass vertically but ends up going sideways. He also takes forever to make the pass you know he is going to make anyway. About the only thing he has going for him is that he is agile because his short passes are not fast at all like Alonso and he is rarely accurate with his long passes. Now I know that it took Modric quite a while to adapt but he still showed glimpses.

The Prosecution Rests

I don't know even if we even need a defense. Seeing as I am the judge, jury and prosecution we know what awaits anti-progressives

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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by christmasborocooper on Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:54 am

We've signed Tomás Mejías Osorio on loan from you guys..ever seen him? Or heard of him?
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Jaime on Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:16 pm

christmasborocooper wrote:We've signed Tomás Mejías Osorio on loan from you guys..ever seen him? Or heard of him?

Yeah, he's quite tall!

Honestly he had a lot potential that he never really lived up to. He was in the Spain U20 squads for a bit and Capello liked him quite a lot and was briefly the 3rd goalkeeper behind Casillas and Dudek. Saw him in some preseason friendlies around then and he seemed to do fine. But he was eventually passed by Adan and Pacheco with Castilla and I don't know if anybody really knows the true story. Karanka will be familiar with him so I guess he believes he can do a job.
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by christmasborocooper on Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:12 pm

Cheers Ale

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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by TM on Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:52 pm

Jese scored again today with a great finish, that takes him to 11 goals for the season <Ale>
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Jaime on Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:40 pm

JESE SELECCION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Jaime on Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:42 pm

Ancelotti now has the second longest unbeaten run in Real Madrid history - 25 matches. Beenhaker has the record at 34 matches. Jose's longest unbeaten run was 20 matches.

PROGRESS! Ale
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Fey on Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:47 pm



Still the Don though Ale
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Super Progress on Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:09 pm

Very impressive except that he lost the two matches that mattered. If he can maintain it for another month I will give him his props. Otherwise he is just another Pellegrini. But great that we kept another clean sheet. I was afraid we were going to revert to letting in goals after we ruined our good clean sheet spell.

you have to love Leo Beenhaker's name if you're Danish. It means leg destroyer/crusher. Biggrin 

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Good for Jese. I hope he tries to add more to his game than just goals because we don't need a Ronaldo copy. At the moment he seems too timid
to do much with the ball when he can't dribble or shoot. He just passes the ball backwards. I hope it is down to him keeping it simple in the beginning but I fear it might be due to lack of creativity. As I said I hope we push him to use his ability to also serve others and not just raise his goal tally.

Worrying to see that Bale is still performing below level although he did fine last week. However it is quite remarkable that Ancelotti still hasn't found place to put Bale on the left even with Ronaldo gone. It would have been a great chance to see how much more effective he could be for us and I think he would improve since he would play something more similar to this role at Tottenham and we could take advantage of his good crossing ability for Ronaldo at the back post. At the very least they should interchange more during games.


Is anybody here satisfied with Illarramendi? I still think he is too slow and his passing is not nearly lateral/adventurous enough given that he is the "new Alonso".

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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Super Progress on Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:35 pm

This comment from Jese explains why he is more cautious with his passing

"I sometimes start a game or come on as a sub with the personal aim of never giving a ball away the whole game or of consistently making the simplest passes but making them very well," he explained recently as to how he confronts his new, surging responsibility. "The coach has made me much more aware positionally, I defend better now." A trait he shares with Bale.

Good to hear that this is the reason. I hope he keeps it humble because I like seeing him go for the touchline and getting crosses or that he tends to use the fullback when they come running which is something that annoys me when Ronaldo/Bale/Di Maria keep the ball instead of passing it on.
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by messiah on Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:47 pm

thats bull crap, he is just not very good/creative with his passing, anyone who has seen him since U17 can tell you that, he is a ok dribbler and a excellent finisher.

think i was saying on here a few months back that for madrid he should be the one playing as a striker and not morata. that's is game he is a goal scorer with good ball skills.

thats the reason spain failed in the U20 WC. he was on fire, but delou and torres were at their very best, so spain couldn't create much.

I don't want to give the ball away Laughing . that being said kid is excellent at what he does and will be awesome for spain in the future.

at this point he is ahead of torres and delou, which is something since most would tell you both are more talented, imagine how good spain will be if all three live up to the hype.
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Re: Real Madrid CF 2013/14

Post by Jaime on Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:19 pm

Re: Jese - Of course his greatest attribute is his finishing. messiah underrates his dribbling, imo. And I think he is developing his other qualities. His ability to play the final pass is improving a lot I think. He actually has more assists than Iniesta, Xavi, Turan, Griezmann, etc. which is saying a lot given how few minutes he has played relative to those guys. He does not yet have the same kind of vision as Di Maria, for example, but he is a lot smarter in knowing when to play and when to move the ball (as you can see from the quotes). The best thing, for me, about Jese is his mentality though. He plays with guts and he isn't afraid. You don't score against all the big teams, in all the big stadiums, if you are mentally weak. In this way, he is a lot like Raul.

re: Illarra - I think it's really hard to judge him at this stage in his career with Real Madrid. He has not had a lot of continuity in the team. When he has played, he's never been bad even if he hasn't been brilliant. What I see is a central midfielder who rarely gives the ball away and is very disciplined tactically. Obviously the captain of team progress wouldn't rate someone who can keep possession. :wink:But look if it can take a player like Zidane or Modric a good 6 months to settle in to Real Madrid than I think it is not unusual that there might be a period of adaptation before we see the best of Illarra. He will always have the price tag hanging over his head which probably isn't fair but what can you do? I do think his range of passing can improve. He showed a lot more last year in la Real, but I agree there are times when he has a little more time and yet settles for a short pass when maybe he could really go for it.

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