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Re: BVB 2014

Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:42 pm

Werder has a smaller stadium, but our academy is actually pretty good. We simply failed at integrating our promising players into the first team, but that will hopefully improve dramatically in the coming years. One could despair about the number of players who once played here, but whose careers took off elsewhere.

Werder managed to be 2nd placed in the Bundesliga all time table despite the obvious ecnonomic disadvantages (no denying that), we're talking about decades here! We're the best example for a strategy being more important than simply money. Dortmund pissed big money away in the early noughties and almost went bankrupt - money didn't help them then.

Germany is the biggest European market by far and hence there is room for a number of top teams, not just one or two. Bundesliga clubs are just starting to tap the full commercial potential at their proposal, especially internationally (could learn a lot from the EPL in this regard). The clubs have to become more professional, modernise their structures and continue to grow with the league - TV revenues are already growing with every new contract.
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Post by Kroos on Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:46 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRr1EYTgaSo

reus vs bremen
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Post by blutgraetsche on Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:48 pm

BVB have extended Jonas Hofmann's contract:

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2013/09/13/4259018/dortmund-extend-hofmanns-deal-until-2018?ICID=HP_BN_6

He has been the revelation of the (pre-)season for Dortmund, could well be another fine player in the making under Klopp. Maybe the 'next Müller' in the sense of flying under the radar for a while and then taking the league (and later NT) by storm. Comparisons to Müller make sense, as he shares a number of his strengths.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:03 pm

Reus' creation of the 5th goal Dortmund scored vs. HSV (from the pass to Aubameyang to the back-heel to Lewandowski) was the reason Klopp said that 'Reus earned a place in heaven' for it.




(scroll to 5:30)

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Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:11 am

Awful news for BVB (and Germany): Looks like Gündogan is going to miss the first half of the season due to a niggling back injury...

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/juergen-klopp/neuer-schock-guendogan-schlimmer-verletzt-32710002.bild.html

A real pity, BVB will most definitely miss him. Hope he'll be fit for the second half and more importantly, WC 2014.
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Post by Kroos on Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:11 pm

thats awful

bender, kehl and sahin also injured, the most important thing is to get dortmund out of the cl group

2 x arsenal, thats a hard task with the current injury problems
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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:44 am

Looks like Hummels is going to leave Dortmund next summer for Barcelona. Dortmund have told him that he can leave next summer for €35m.

Dortmund are supposedly interested in Swiss international Fabian Schär (21) as his replacement. Klopp seems to rate him highly after seeing him play in a friendly vs. Dortmund earlier this year. Many other European top clubs are interested in him though, including Arsenal and Juve.

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/mats-hummels/barcelona-jetzt-wird-es-ernst-32987092.bild.html


Barcelona don't sign Germans normally, but Hummels would fit into their football philosophy like a glove. He has been linked to them for years now, so maybe there is some truth in this rumour after all.
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Post by messiah on Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:43 am

we will be signing ter stegen as well so that would be two, Ter Stegen is 90% coming to us next summer.

Hummels is based on if Mascharano leaves for Napoli, and if we sign Balanta and how well he works out if he do, because he would bring more balance to the defense that hummels, who is a bit like pique, Bartra is alone in the mold.

Ps. who is better Leno or stegen, i have a feeling it's Leno
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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:15 pm

Leno is more calm and composed, but Ter Stegen probably has more raw talent and a higher ceiling in future. Difficult to say really. Both are very young for a goal keeper though, so you shouldn't expect them at top of their game just yet.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:54 pm

Hummels' dad (and agent) denied the reports. Zorc, Dortmund's sporting director, rubbished it as 'nonsense' also.

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1310/News/mats-hummels-angeblich-vor-wechsel-zum-fc-barcelona-borussia-dortmund-fabian-schaer.html
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Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:01 pm

Looks like BVB have beaten the competition and signed highly rated Wolfsburg youngster Julian Brandt (17). Bayern and Chelsea were also interested, but Brandt prefered BVB and didn't want to extend his contract in Wolfsburg.

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/rundumdenball/1310/2210/tagesticker-barcelona-guendogan-fc-bayern-muenchen-borussia-dortmund-champions-league.html


Born in Bremen btw., but moved elsewhere early.
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Post by Kroos on Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:01 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Looks like BVB have beaten the competition and signed highly rated Wolfsburg youngster Julian Brandt (17). Bayern and Chelsea were also interested, but Brandt prefered BVB and didn't want to extend his contract in Wolfsburg.

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/rundumdenball/1310/2210/tagesticker-barcelona-guendogan-fc-bayern-muenchen-borussia-dortmund-champions-league.html


Born in Bremen btw., but moved elsewhere early.
thats not really surprising, one reason why bvb will stay on top for a very long time, or at least as long kloppo is there coach


bvb has an awesome football brand and the young players see how the likes of götze, hummels developed

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Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:15 pm

But BVB aren't the only ones in Germany now though. Their beloved neighbours Schalke have changed their strategy in the last few years and put a higher emphasis on young (German) talent also, see this this article, for instance. Their academy is even more productive than Dortmund's lately, with the likes of Draxler or Meyer coming through, so they don't even need to outbid the other clubs for the most promising youngsters that often, Goretzka being the exception to the norm. And then there is Leverkusen who have had the same strategy as Dortmund for years.

Klopp is a huge factor though, I agree. Any promising youngster would like to be coached by him. Bayern's squad is too good for promising youngsters to get a realistic chance, but I can see Guardiola having a similar lure if the interest was there.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:58 am

It's going to be a huge task for Dortmund to replace Lewandowski next summer. Brilliant striker, one of the most complete around. The way he shields the ball against defenders, creates space and has an eye for a killer pass, not to mention his lethal finishing, is a rare quality.

Whoever signs him next summer is going to have a great player in their ranks, he made the difference yesterday.
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Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:01 am

Dortmund should sign Benteke. He's the only Obvious choice.
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Post by Romford Pele on Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:04 am

Deluded F*ck™ wrote:Dortmund should sign Benteke. He's the only Obvious choice.
Either him or Lukaku would be great. The latter would be cheaper though I don't know if Mourinho will sell him.
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Post by Xavier on Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:06 am

Neither of those players are anything like Lewandowski... how are they the 'obvious choice'?
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Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:07 am

Lukaku would probably have to take a pay cut to fit in at Dortmund though.
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Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:10 am

Xavier wrote:Neither of those players are anything like Lewandowski... how are they the 'obvious choice'?
Benteke has everything you'd want in a modern CF, Physically a monster, finishing improving all the time (17 in his last 21) underrated skills & vision etc.

I'd wager in 2-3 years he'll be better than Lewa.
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Post by Romford Pele on Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:25 am

Deluded F*ck™ wrote:
Xavier wrote:Neither of those players are anything like Lewandowski... how are they the 'obvious choice'?
Benteke has everything you'd want in a modern CF, Physically a monster, finishing improving all the time (17 in his last 21) underrated skills & vision etc.

I'd wager in 2-3 years he'll be better than Lewa.
ok

Neither are your typical big black lump of a CF. Both know how to ball Ale
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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:37 am

The most important quality from Dortmund's perspective is shielding the ball and giving the rest of their team enough time to move forward and overwhelm the opposition. Dortmund are not just a counter attacking team, but they obviously can do those well. And he needs to be a good passer on the ball, excellent first touch, too, as Dortmund tend to pass at very high speeds and controlling the occasional long ball is important also.

I don't know how good Lukaku and Benteke are when it comes to shielding the ball, the latter probably a bit better in this respect. A Drogba like striker would fit Dortmund well, I agree. So whoever is more similar to him the better.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:09 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:But BVB aren't the only ones in Germany now though. Their beloved neighbours Schalke have changed their strategy in the last few years and put a higher emphasis on young (German) talent also, see this this article, for instance. Their academy is even more productive than Dortmund's lately, with the likes of Draxler or Meyer coming through, so they don't even need to outbid the other clubs for the most promising youngsters that often, Goretzka being the exception to the norm. And then there is Leverkusen who have had the same strategy as Dortmund for years.

Klopp is a huge factor though, I agree. Any promising youngster would like to be coached by him. Bayern's squad is too good for promising youngsters to get a realistic chance, but I can see Guardiola having a similar lure if the interest was there.

Now it's supposedly Leverkusen who signed Julain Brandt:

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/rundumdenball/1310/2310/tagesticker-marcus-sorg-neuer-co-trainer-beim-dfb-team-joachim-loew-diego-klaus-allofs-kevin-prince-boateng.html

As I've said, Dortmund aren't the only ones with this particular strategy.
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Post by Kroos on Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:41 am

Gündogan, Piscek and Kehl on there way back


Kehl next week

Gündogan and Piscek do right now training without the ball
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:11 pm

Don't think that both Gündogan and Piscek will be fully match fit in 2013 though. BVB will have to do without them for a few more weeks, keeping up in the league and advancing from their tough CL group that is.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:00 pm

Reus: "Wembley keine Eintagsfliege"

Marco Reus ist mit der Entwicklung von Borussia Dortmund sehr zufrieden, das Champions-League-Finale sei keine Eintagsfliege gewesen. Für die Weltmeisterschaft in Brasilien verspricht er ein "hochmotiviertes" DFB-Team.
http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1310/News/marco-reus-wembley-keine-eintagsfliege-borussia-dortmund-bvb-champions-league-finale-dfb-team.html


Interview with Reus in the new Kicker. He says that the CL final last season with Dortmund was not an one off, that they can do it again if they play to their potential and that they've improved 'mentally' in particular. He also praises Ribery and says that he doesn't believe himself to be a world class player (have to disagree there Marco). He then goes on to praise the Dortmund fans and stadium and says that he intends to stay there (contract until 2017), with no plans to move abroad anytime soon. Last but not least, he believes that the NT is highly motivated for the WC next year and that it is an honour to represent the Fatherland at the WC.


Hope he stays in Dortmund for years to come. He will only get better under Klopp's guidance, still has room for improvement. Brilliant player.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:33 pm

Klopp extended his contract with BVB! New contract until 2018 for Klopp and his assistants. Klopp had already extended his contract until 2016 in January 2012, but to end any kind of speculation of him moving abroad or elsewhere, the contract was extended again.

http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/newspage_800784.html

Great news for BVB. As long as Klopp is working there, they'll remain a force not just domestically, but in Europe, too.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:52 am

Another chapter to be written

Posted by Stephan Uersfeld

Wednesday brought bad news for European clubs, great news for Bundesliga and even better news for Borussia Dortmund: Juergen Klopp has put pen to paper on a new deal, committing him to the club until 2018.

Why is that great news for Borussia Dortmund? Let's go back a couple of years to a grey day in the city. It's Feb. 26, 2009, and, a few days ago, Dortmund have played the Revierderby at Schalke. In the game, Mohamed Zidan's late equaliser helped Borussia to avoid defeat and the club sit eighth in the league. In 21 games they have picked up 32 points and are only eight points away from the 40 points won under Thomas Doll the previous year.

Klopp has been in charge of the team for less than a season and arrives to chat to Dortmund supporters about the future of the club, which slowly is getting back on track. Players like Jakub Blaszczykowski, Roman Weidenfeller, Nuri Sahin, Sebastian Kehl and the centre-back duo Neven Subotic and Mats Hummels, dubbed "Kinderriegel," form the core of the team.

One of the other key members of the squad, Florian Kringe, has been out of form recently and Dortmund supporters question his abilities altogether. "He is a good lad," they say, "but kind of frustrating to see him play." Klopp takes his time to explain that, while the fans might have a case, they should stick with Kringe for a bit longer and focus on what they can do to support their team instead. They hear him. Klopp has a lot to say that day and spends more than three hours in a pub with the fans.

When he first arrived at Dortmund in 2008, Klopp was seen as a good Bundesliga coach who had turned former second division constants Mainz 05 into one of the top 25 teams in Germany -- sometimes good enough for Bundesliga, sometimes not.

After putting pen to paper on his Dortmund deal, he made sure to win over the hearts of the fans first and then -- once the stadium was behind the team again -- ensured his "full throttle" take on football was next on the agenda. His version of Gegenpressing and the slow overhaul of the squad, while sticking with some key players, proved the foundation for a rejuvenated Dortmund both on and off the pitch.

Klopp -- and his assistants Zeljko Buvac and Peter Krawietz, who belong to Klopp like the Suedtribuene belongs to the Westfalenstadion -- took Dortmund to back-to-back championships, and the domestic double in 2011-12. Then, against all odds, the side even reached the Champions League final in 2013 (although were beaten by Bayern). And all of that with a squad full of homegrown, local players.

Unfortunately, as often happens when a side finds success, the domestic glory turned Borussia into a feeder club. In 2011, they lost Nuri Sahin to Real Madrid and replaced him with 1.FC Nuremberg midfielder Ilkay Gundogan. In 2012, the club lost Japan midfielder Shinji Kagawa to Manchester United and replaced him with Dortmund-born Marco Reus, who turned down Bayern Munich and returned home from Borussia Moenchengladbach. In 2013, Dortmund lost Mario Goetze to FC Bayern Munich and replaced him with the attacking duo of Armenia international Henrikh Mkhitaryan and the fleet-footed Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang.

Sometime during the years that turned Borussia Dortmund into a German powerhouse and revived the club's name in Europe, it became evident that the real star at Borussia Dortmund was not to be found on the pitch, or recently departed for another team. In fact, he was to be seen on the touchline, sometimes chatting to the fourth official. A charming volcano, recently described by Raphael Honigstein in his Guardian column as "the only Bundesliga manager who doesn't need to wear a mask to frighten the kids on Halloween."

In the same way that Dortmund have grown since that day in February 2009, Klopp has grown too. They have -- in Klopp's words --"written a thrilling story together." It is a story that has closely been followed by several European clubs, who believed that if they just offered enough money, Klopp -- who is admittedly drained from the constant departures of his key players -- could be lured, with his assistants, away from the Westfalenstadion.

Dortmund can rest easy for now, however. Upon signing his new deal, Klopp said: "I don't feel as though the final chapter has been written yet. No other club has to call me until 2018."

One could argue this is rather cynical and, while accepting a hefty pay rise, the new deal only increases his market value. Dortmund won't care, though -- the man who has turned them into one of Europe's best teams again has committed his future, and the future is bright.
http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/bundesliga/id/211?cc=5739
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Post by Kroos on Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:41 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqIUXAGI7fQ
reus vs stuttgart


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNWsFjH8geo
lewi vs stuttgart

it was a brilliant game to watch
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Post by blutgraetsche on Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:52 am

Jürgen Klopp: Borussia Dortmund are 'worth falling in love with'

Jürgen Klopp on his similarities – and differences – with Arsène Wenger, his love of 'fighting football' and why the great Barcelona side are 'not enough for me'

Jürgen Klopp is pondering the similarities between himself and Arsène Wenger, between his Borussia Dortmund team and Arsenal which, on the face of it, appear to be numerous. Klopp, however, does not see it. "He likes having the ball, playing football, passes … it's like an orchestra," the Dortmund manager says, pretending to play the violin. "But it's a silent song, yeah? I like heavy metal."

Klopp's every entrance ought to be accompanied by a cymbal crash and it is no great stretch to imagine him laying into the speakers with a guitar. There is a wildness about the Dortmund frontman; a high-octane, all-or-nothing passion that overtakes him on match days. It feeds his explosive team and the 80,645 supporters that pack the club's Westfalenstadion, where 25,000 stand behind one of the goals to form the Yellow Wall. The place teems with energy and intensity. It is Klopp's home from home.

"For me, he is Sir Arsène Wenger, he is really something, I love him," Klopp adds, before miming a polite handshake. "But I'm this guy, with high fives. I always want it loud. I want to have this … " Klopp makes the sound of an exploding bomb. (An article with him demands stage direction).

"If Barcelona's team of the last four years were the first one that I saw play when I was four years of age ... with their serenity, winning 5-0, 6-0 … I would have played tennis. Sorry, that is not enough for me. What I love is that there are some things you can do in football to allow each team to win most of the matches.

"It is not serenity football, it is fighting football – that is what I like. What we call in German – English [football] … rainy day, heavy pitch, everybody is dirty in the face and they go home and can't play football for the next four weeks. This is Borussia.

"When I watch Arsenal in the last 10 years, it is nearly perfect football, but we all know they didn't win a title. In Britain they say that they like Arsenal but they have to win something. Who wins the title? Chelsea, but with different football, I would say. This is the philosophy of Arsène Wenger. I love this but I cannot coach this because I am a different guy. You think many things are similar? I hope so in some moments, but there are big differences, too."

Klopp will face Wenger in Dortmund on Wednesday night, in Champions League Group F, knowing that a repeat of the victory at Emirates Stadium the week before last would put his team in the driving seat to qualify. That 2-1 win was built on trademark pressing and quick transitions but what appeared to please Klopp the most was the statistic that said his players had run a collective 11.5km more than their opponents.

"Coaches will say that it's not important for their team to run more and they prefer to make games the right way," Klopp says. "I want to make games only the right way and run 10km more. It's a rule to give all and it can make the difference if you work more. If you don't have to give all and you still win, what's this? You don't like this game? It's like this [Klopp yawns]. What, you can win Wimbledon like this?"

Klopp peppers the conversation with tennis references. He was not impressed when his own meltdown at the fourth official that saw him sent off in the Champions League defeat at Napoli in September was attributed, in some quarters, to the pressure he felt. "No, I make this fucking face when I play tennis. That's the truth."

The 46-year-old is a talker, and he adds flavour with anecdotes and detail; some insightful, others more off-the-wall. He admits to being rubbish at DIY, for example. "You'd be waiting 30 or 40 years for me to build a table," he says. "I have more than two left hands."

He remembers his one and only meeting with Sir Alex Ferguson as lasting for two minutes and coming "during the most shitty moment of my life". He encountered Ferguson at Wembley after Dortmund had lost last season's Champions League final to Bayern Munich. "He said 'great season' to me," Klopp says, before indicating how his own chin had been on the floor.

It would be interesting to hear what Ferguson thinks of Klopp's look – the jeans and trainers and black-rimmed spectacles – given his more traditional sartorial values. "I don't think I have a chapter in his book," Klopp says. "Chapter One: How is Klopp looking?

"I'm sorry, he is British," Klopp continues. "You drink tea at four o'clock in the afternoon and nobody else knows why in the rest of the world. You drive on the wrong side of the road. We are different. But I'm sure I can have two days and two nights with Sir Alex Ferguson. I don't know what he drinks. Red wine, OK. He can have his red wine. I prefer beer.

"But we are like we are. He worked with Ryan Giggs for 20-odd years and when Ryan Giggs hears Ferguson's name, he doesn't go like this [Klopp pretends to vomit]. That is the best you can do in your life. Every day, every year, all the talk ... you know everything about this guy and you still like each other. That says everything about Sir Alex Ferguson."

Klopp loves to laugh and his is a very big laugh. He jokes that his ugly face is one problem and he turns to the journalist from the Sun. "You have the same problem," he says, uproariously. He has all the trimmings of the charismatic maverick and it is put to him that he would get on well with Zlatan Ibrahimovic, with whom he would like to work. "Crazy players love me," Klopp says. "I don't know why."

He is relaxed and engaging when he does not have his must-win game-face on and it is easy to see why the Dortmund players like him and, to quote the midfielder Nuri Sahin, will "run through walls for him". Most importantly, Klopp gets results. He has the highest points-per-game ratio of any Dortmund coach in history, together with two Bundesliga titles and one German cup.

It has combined to make him an attractive proposition and the predators have sniffed, particularly from the Premier League. Klopp does not want to say that Manchester City and Chelsea wanted him before they appointed Manuel Pellegrini and José Mourinho respectively – to him it is in the past – but the references are almost matter of fact.

"I know that some clubs were interested, of course," he says. "They thought about us. You know these clubs … they changed coaches last season. Man City? But I don't say anything about this. From other countries, they were also interested."

Many Arsenal fans believe that Klopp would be tailor-made as Wenger's eventual successor. Like Wenger, he came from a small club (Mainz in 2008); he promotes young players; he is wedded to an entertaining style and he hunts for answers when key personnel depart. Klopp has lost Sahin, Shinji Kagawa and Mario Götze over the past three summers, although Sahin has since returned, and he will lose Robert Lewandowski as a Bosman free agent next summer. Klopp believes that renewal is essential for progress.

But Arsenal and anyone else would have to wait until 2018, at least, for Klopp. He signed a new contract at Dortmund last Wednesday and he could not have been clearer about his intention to honour it. He had previously been contracted to 2016 and there was no pressure from either side to agree to the extension. But they did it because they wanted to; because the partnership feels right.

"Borussia Dortmund is the only club in the world where if I speak to a young player, he knows that I am his coach for the next four-and-a-half years," Klopp says. "We want to have this situation. The players are similar to the journalists. They always think: 'Ah, he says this and then Real Madrid call and he is away.' But this is the message: Everybody can call but nothing will happen. This is for sure and then we will see what's with the players.

"It makes me proud to hear that some Arsenal fans might want me, but it's not important for me to be proud. My mother is proud. It's a better feeling than if nobody knows me but it doesn't help me in the morning, it doesn't help me in the evening and it doesn't help me through the day."

Klopp's connection with Dortmund is total. He talks emotively about how the club is "worth falling in love with because this is pure football" and, also, the unique thrill of emerging from the dark and narrow tunnel at the Westfalenstadion, in which he has to stoop at various points, to be assailed by the colour and noise.

"It's a little bit like when you are born and your mother is [Klopp makes a face like a woman in labour]. Then, you come out and you see the best of the world," he says.

Klopp is the incurable romantic. To him Dortmund are the Rebel Alliance to Bayern's Death Star, but his club can compete. The players have an average age of 25 and they will enter their prime years over the course of Klopp's contract. "The important thing is new ideas, not money," he says. "It is important to make the next step. You always want to be the team that can beat the one with more money."
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/nov/03/borussia-dortmund-jurgen-klopp-arsenal
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Love Klopp Blush 

Fully agree with him too. Arsenal's orchestra is lovely when it's in full harmony but give me some heavy metal football over that every day of the week Ale

Funnily though, what England are trying to move away from is the very thing Klopp bases his philosophy on Laughing

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