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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by blutgraetsche on Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:32 pm

Germany have a shit coach, so all the players they have are more or less worthless.

This isn't about Germany. It's the Belgium hype that gets on my tits, seriously. If it was just the hipsters, it wouldn't be a problem. But the Belgians are starting to believe their own hype and have become a bit insufferable lately. If you live close to the Beglian border, you'll understand what I mean.

But this isn't really an emotional issue, but rational. Belgium have a fine generation of players, but they are not as good as they are made to be.
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by Isco Benny on Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:33 pm

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blutgraetsche wrote:Their central midfield is nowhere near Spain or Germany, hell, or Brazil and Italy for that matter (the latter aging quickly nowadays though). The centre of the park is where matches are decided.

STOP THE HIPSTER HYPE!
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by blutgraetsche on Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:37 pm

Isco Benny wrote:Dembélé --- Witsel

De Bruyne --- Hazard --- Mirallas

Hardly call that 'nowheree near' Spain and the other Austria.



Dembele - Witsel on the same level as Busquets - Xavi - Iniesta? What have you been smoking lately?

Their attacking midfielders are very talented, but even them are not on the level of those you mentioned. What have they done on the highest level yet?

But again, the major difference is the central midfield. They don't have the same level of quality there, they lack a world class distributor, for example. 'Other Ausrtria' have three of those, four if you count Lahm as a midfielder.
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by debaser on Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:37 pm

Isco Benny wrote:
debaser wrote:
blutgraetsche wrote:Their central midfield is nowhere near Spain or Germany, hell, or Brazil and Italy for that matter (the latter aging quickly nowadays though). The centre of the park is where matches are decided.

STOP THE HIPSTER HYPE!
for someone who doesn't care whether others respect Germany you sure do seem to get wound up by minor slights Razz
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by blutgraetsche on Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:38 pm

THIS ISN'T ABOUT GERMANY YOU c**ts! Laugh
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by Fey on Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:41 pm

First of all Belgium are NOT hipster anymore, they were hipster when only me and Hlebagone noticed them. Now they are the Wreckin Ball of the football world, everyone have an opinion about them these days. 

As for Portugal, they always do that, they will win the play-offs anyway.

Must say, Belgiums strength in depth is pretty good for such a small country. Infact their depth is their strong point, their weakness is that there isnt one player that really stands out. They lack a HSWHW.  But with talents like akkali, Januzaj, Perreira, Musonda Jr., Tielemans Torgan Hazard etc. Who knows.

As for their midfield, it's actually pretty good. Besides during a tourney the defence is more important. Is their a better pairing then Vertonghen-Kompany?

Holland-Belgium would indeed be a good match, though the rivalry is one sided as hell. I remember 2002 when Holland werent there, and thats only what mattered to them, yet Holland supported Belgium during that tournament.

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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by blutgraetsche on Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:46 pm

Agree that their defence will most definitely help them next year. But the last thing they lack is Van Persie, seriously...

They don't have a player to dictate tempo, a player with fine passing and vision in the centre of the park. They're a bit similar to France in this regard.
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by Fey on Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:01 pm

Well you clearly havent seen Defour, vastly underrated player. Like it or not their attack atm is still Everton-Villa-Everton with a Chelsea sub. So they could do with HSWHW As long as they stay away from Dembele and Fellaini!

Perhaps it's best they get QF/SF during next summer and going for gold in France.
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by blutgraetsche on Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:05 am

Wilmots saying after the match that he told the players that the king congratulated them for qualifying and how proud they should be because of that made me cringe a little. Fucking monarchist...

This said, Löw sent his congratulations afterwards, saying that he had been closely observing the progress Belgium made under Wilmots in the last few years and that they are the dark horses for him next year. Talking about the kiss of death...
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by Fey on Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:08 pm

0-0 so far against a Whale without it's Bale. Ha!
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by Fey on Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:27 pm

Lovely goal from De Bruyne 1-0.
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by Fey on Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:25 pm

Ramsey snatched a draw for Wales...Belgium were alot better obviously, but it shows again, that they lack a HSWHW. And when you play all those EPL players you are gonna have trouble in breaking sides down.
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by Kimbo on Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:37 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27133764

I hope they don't take this little prick to the world cup.
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by The Chosen Glenn on Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:26 pm

Belgium have an awesome squad, but is Gary Wilmot the man to get the best out of them? You'd expect any of the ambitious top managers to look at the players they have and fancy that job.
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by Fey on Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:54 pm

Well so far his record is pretty damn good, nobody wanted that job a couple of years ago cause even though it was talented for years, it didnt came out of it. Ohh and the Belgian FA pay fuck all, hence Advocaat left them for a job in Russia.

I think Januzaj can go to the WC, makes more sense to take him rather then Fellaini. As long Wilmots dont buy the EPL hype I can't see it go wrong for them. He can field a football team and a progressive team, how many countries can do that?

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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by stinger on Thu May 01, 2014 11:16 am

I still don't know how they will do without any legit full back on highest level.

But for small country their squad depth is generally impressive... except for full backs of course.
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by Super Progress on Thu May 01, 2014 1:46 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Wilmots saying after the match that he told the players that the king congratulated them for qualifying and how proud they should be because of that made me cringe a little. Fucking monarchist...
 ok 
Another reason to support Wilmots and Belgium. Biggrin 

But Blut is right though with regards to central midfield isn't he?
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by Fey on Thu May 01, 2014 3:55 pm

No, he was being an obnoxious German again. Yes they are shite when they play Fellaini, but fat chance, a midfield of Defour-Witsel-Debruyne might lack in name and fame, but is really good.
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by Fey on Tue May 13, 2014 5:31 pm

Belgium's squad:

Doel: Koen Casteels (1899 Hoffenheim, Dui), Thibaut Courtois (Atlético Madrid, Spa), Simon Mignolet (Liverpool, Eng), Silvio Proto (Anderlecht)
Verdediging: Toby Alderweireld (Atlético Madrid, Spa), Laurent Ciman (Standard Luik), Vincent Kompany (Manchester City, Eng), Nicolas Lombaerts (Zenit Sint-Petersburg, Rus), Daniel Van Buyten (Bayern München, Dui), Anthony Vanden Borre (Anderlecht), Thomas Vermaelen (Arsenal, Eng), Jan Vertonghen (Tottenham Hotspur, Eng)
Middenveld: Nacer Chadli (Tottenham Hotspur, Eng), Kevin De Bruyne (VfL Wolfsburg, Dui), Steven Defour (FC Porto, Por), Moussa Dembélé (Tottenham Hotspur, Eng), Marouane Fellaini (Manchester United, Eng), Axel Witsel (Zenit Sint-Petersburg, Rus)
Aanval: Eden Hazard (Chelsea, Eng), Adnan Januzaj (Manchester United, Eng), Romelu Lukaku (Everton, Eng), Dries Mertens (Napoli, Ita), Kevin Mirallas (Everton, Eng), Divock Origi (Lille, Fra

As expected.
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by bluenine on Thu May 15, 2014 2:48 pm

Fey wrote:Belgium's squad:

Doel: Koen Casteels (1899 Hoffenheim, Dui), Thibaut Courtois (Atlético Madrid, Spa), Simon Mignolet (Liverpool, Eng), Silvio Proto (Anderlecht)
Verdediging: Toby Alderweireld (Atlético Madrid, Spa), Laurent Ciman (Standard Luik), Vincent Kompany (Manchester City, Eng), Nicolas Lombaerts (Zenit Sint-Petersburg, Rus), Daniel Van Buyten (Bayern München, Dui), Anthony Vanden Borre (Anderlecht), Thomas Vermaelen (Arsenal, Eng), Jan Vertonghen (Tottenham Hotspur, Eng)
Middenveld: Nacer Chadli (Tottenham Hotspur, Eng), Kevin De Bruyne (VfL Wolfsburg, Dui), Steven Defour (FC Porto, Por), Moussa Dembélé (Tottenham Hotspur, Eng), Marouane Fellaini (Manchester United, Eng), Axel Witsel (Zenit Sint-Petersburg, Rus)
Aanval: Eden Hazard (Chelsea, Eng), Adnan Januzaj (Manchester United, Eng), Romelu Lukaku (Everton, Eng), Dries Mertens (Napoli, Ita), Kevin Mirallas (Everton, Eng), Divock Origi (Lille, Fra

As expected.

The likes of Fellaini over Nainggolan, that's hard to understand. Belgium need a better coach, I have a feeling they will disappoint in the world cup inspite of being in the easiest group.
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by Kimbo on Thu May 15, 2014 3:21 pm

Well Januzaj is there after sitting out the qualifying games and having about 3 good games for his club, him going shows a severe lack of depth to me.
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by bluenine on Thu May 15, 2014 4:52 pm

Kimbo wrote:Well Januzaj is there after sitting out the qualifying games and having about 3 good games for his club, him going shows a severe lack of depth to me.

Its a unbalanced squad.... great depth in some areas, a bit weak in others...
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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by Fey on Thu May 15, 2014 8:27 pm

bluenine wrote:
Kimbo wrote:Well Januzaj is there after sitting out the qualifying games and having about 3 good games for his club, him going shows a severe lack of depth to me.

Its a unbalanced squad.... great depth in some areas, a bit weak in others...

Personally I think its a very balanced squad..they can field both a football team and an EPL team. For a nation that was last at a tourny when even Scotland was there this is a good squad. Shame they will either play Portugal or Krautistan in the next round.

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Re: The Big Bad Belgium thread

Post by Formerly known as sheva7 on Fri May 16, 2014 12:15 am

Fey wrote:
bluenine wrote:
Kimbo wrote:Well Januzaj is there after sitting out the qualifying games and having about 3 good games for his club, him going shows a severe lack of depth to me.

Its a unbalanced squad.... great depth in some areas, a bit weak in others...

Personally I think its a very balanced squad..they can field both a football team and an EPL team. For a nation that was last at a tourny when even Scotland was there this is a good squad. Shame they will either play Portugal or Krautistan in the next round.

I agree. They have very good offensive and defensive players. They still lack a striker though. Lukaku is too young.

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