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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by Deluded F*ck™ on Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:42 pm

I like the Super Depor Stadium revamp - at least it's got character. So many new grounds end up looking like one another. Liverpools new stadium plan looks like Arsenals Emirates Stadium, which looks like the City of Manchester Stadium at Eastlands.

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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by Guest on Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:22 am

the Nou camp will increase its current capacity by 14000 seats

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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by golsud on Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:37 am

I don't see the point in expanding the Camp Nou. I thikn they want to raise another tier on the tribuna side so the whole stadium is levelled. THe views from the 4th tier are terrible (away fans can confirm this) and I don't see what's the point in having a bigger stadium if we hardly ever fill it.

The expansion and the new Palau will be financed by selling the land where the Mini is, or building flats on it and selling them.

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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by Oleguerisntthatbad on Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:12 am

cule604 wrote:I don't see the point in expanding the Camp Nou. I thikn they want to raise another tier on the tribuna side so the whole stadium is levelled. THe views from the 4th tier are terrible (away fans can confirm this) and I don't see what's the point in having a bigger stadium if we hardly ever fill it.

The expansion and the new Palau will be financed by selling the land where the Mini is, or building flats on it and selling them.

It is just a stupid prestige project.. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest on Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:41 pm

i agree completely i've been sating this form the moment i heard of it.

what i think they should do is reduce the capacity to around 85000 (as we only get the 98000 for big CL gams and the classico). put in some VIP Boxes which will bring in more money than having almost 20000 empty seats almost every game. has will has building a roof
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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by Tweesus on Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:01 pm

I'll just list a few proposed capacities:

Liverpool: 60,000
Aston Villa: 50,000
Charlton Athletic: 42,000
Sunderland: 60,000
Portsmouth: 40,000
Spurs: 50,000
Everton: 50,000
West Ham: 44,000
Chelsea: 50,000
Fulham: 32,000

Under Construction:

Wembley: 90,000

Present capacities:

Man Utd: 75,000
Arsenal: 60,000
Newcastle: 52,000
Man City: 48,000
Sunderland: 48,000
Chelsea: 43,000
Liverpool: 44,000
Aston Villa: 42,000
Sheffield Wednesday: 40,000
Derby: 36,000
Birmingham: 36,000
West Ham: 36,000
Leeds Utd: 44,000
Everton: 38,000

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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by Parks lives on Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:51 pm

So will Liverpool's have more than Arsenal?
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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by Tweesus on Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:59 pm

Nah - 60,000 as well.

Man Utd have plans to expend to 90,000 don't they Parky?

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Post by Parks lives on Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:01 pm

Tweedledum wrote:Nah - 60,000 as well.

Man Utd have plans to expend to 90,000 don't they Parky?

Not sure about that, I thought 76,000 was it for the long term. I mean it cost us 44 million to increase by 9,000 seats.
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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by NCFC on Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:05 pm

Always thought St Andrews was 30,00, don't know where the extra 6,000 come from! 44 Million! Fuckin ell, whats all that about, why so expensive? The seats also look really out of place. Money poorly spent for United. They should have built a new stadium on one of the many disused wherehouse sights around Manchester!
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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by  on Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:32 am

just learnt this weekend that Nrnberg seem to have extended their stadium capacity to

50.000 seats

now

and in Munich

the Allianz Arena will go up to

71.000 seats

this season

the Stuttgart revamp is finished as well and they are now at

60.000 +

cannot see anything else of note in the pipeline in Das Vaterland

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France will get a whole batch of exciting new stadia for their Euros

putting their league firmly on the international map as well

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so where are we in England , the RICHEST league in the world ?

will Chelsea move in the Battersea Power Station now ?

will Spurs or somebody else move into the Olympic Stadium ?

what happened to those exciting plans of a shared stadium in Liverpool ?

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and what about Italy ?

any plans to privatise and build new stadia ?

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and will Feyenoord ever get their 80.000 seat stadium leonardo was always telling us about ?
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Post by Fey on Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:52 pm

Funny that you mention it. Cause there has been a lot of news on that subject lately. It was 86.000 actually, but that would only happen if Holland got the WC of 2018.

This month Feyenoord will decide on one of these three options.








The third option will be a new stadium and demolish the old one.

And in december the local government will decide. The new stadium be an all-seater with 63.000-75.000 seats with the Allianz Arena as inspiration.

But as expected, a lot of fans don't want a new stadium. Cause de Kuip is unique. And thus a plan was launched to renovate the new stadium again.



As much as I love de Kuip, I dont think it's realistic.

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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by Jason Jarrett on Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:36 am

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
Messiah wrote:WC 2010 stadiums

http://www.stadiumguide.com/wc2010.htm

That must have cost an insane amount of money to build..

I can tell you,2 years on from the Wrold Cup,4 of our stadiums are white elephants.

Firstly,2 stadiums were built in areas where there are no football,rugby or cricket teams,so there isn't a home sports team in the area to use them.

Secondly,the stadiums in DUrban and Cape Town are not being used because none of the sports teams want to move from their traditional home grounds.The one's who are keen,don't have the fan base or the money to use the stadiums.

White elephants everywhere!!!!!!!!!!

But the World Cup was fun whilst it lasted........sigh
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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by abundance on Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:31 am

oh, you're from SA? cool that

this situation sadly reminds me of our stadium after WC '90

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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by 110% on Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:16 pm

@Fey
Why wouldn't you get rid of the old stadium? What's the point of having 2 of them next to each other, you wouldn't use the old one so why maintain it.
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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by Fey on Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:23 pm

I believe de Kuip has monument status in Holland, thus it wont be easy to demolish. I think it will be stripped from it's roof and support all other kinds of sports. Like iceskating and such. Though in reality I believe it will do that for a couple of months/years and then suddenly catch fire, like it happened to so many other stadia.

But I kinda hope we keep it, especially in it's old version, you can see how much nou camp looks like de kuip, and it's nice to have two stadiums that are bigger then White hart lane!

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Post by Jason Jarrett on Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:06 pm

110% wrote:@Fey
Why wouldn't you get rid of the old stadium? What's the point of having 2 of them next to each other, you wouldn't use the old one so why maintain it.

The local authorities can always lie in hope that a messiah comes in wanting the unwanted stadium......

Plus,look @ valencia,don't have the funds to finish the Nou Mestalla,won't find a buyer for the old Mestalla in the financial crisis-hit Spain

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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by Jason Jarrett on Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:07 pm

abundance wrote:oh, you're from SA? cool that

this situation sadly reminds me of our stadium after WC '90

But you guys have sports teams using those stadiums don't you?(Rugby and Calcio)
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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by Fey on Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:02 pm

South-African Worms

cheers
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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by ERIK LAMELA on Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:15 pm

Fey wrote:I believe de Kuip has monument status in Holland, thus it wont be easy to demolish. I think it will be stripped from it's roof and support all other kinds of sports. Like iceskating and such. Though in reality I believe it will do that for a couple of months/years and then suddenly catch fire, like it happened to so many other stadia.

But I kinda hope we keep it, especially in it's old version, you can see how much nou camp looks like de kuip, and it's nice to have two stadiums that are bigger then White hart lane!

I thought that was 'Jew behaviour'/'Jewish stocktake' and you Feyenoord fans hated the Jews?

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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by Jason Jarrett on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:01 am

Fey wrote:South-African Worms

cheers

Jealous?FIFA picks us to host tournaments??

AFricAN cup Of Nations,January 2013,gonna go watch the best midfielder from an african country........Kwadwo Asamoah!
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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by Isco Benny on Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:12 pm

Fey wrote:Funny that you mention it. Cause there has been a lot of news on that subject lately. It was 86.000 actually, but that would only happen if Holland got the WC of 2018.

This month Feyenoord will decide on one of these three options.








The third option will be a new stadium and demolish the old one.

And in december the local government will decide. The new stadium be an all-seater with 63.000-75.000 seats with the Allianz Arena as inspiration.

But as expected, a lot of fans don't want a new stadium. Cause de Kuip is unique. And thus a plan was launched to renovate the new stadium again.



As much as I love de Kuip, I dont think it's realistic.

Spurs > Feyenoord as usual.

As proven by our new Stadium design mock ups. Look, TS is even there at the front:







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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by debaser on Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:15 pm

Is this new Spurs stadium actually happening? Been bubbling along for years..

Still waiting for Portsmouth's new ground. They had awesome plan Razz

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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by Fey on Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:02 pm

Silly Bernd, silly bernd,
What are they feeding you,
Silly Bernd, Silly Bernd,
It's not your fauuulllt!

those are called artist impressions ye twonk!

IE

It means fuck all. Besides it's fuckin racist to imply that all the white people are going to the match and TS is walking away from it. By the happy smile they have given him, it looks like he sold a few tickets on the black market.

Anyway, Otto bumped this thread at a great time. Cause today the club officialy announced option 2 as new stadium. 65.000. 320 million euros. Will be a mixture between the Emirates and the Allianz Arena. Starting in 2016 and it will be finished in 2018.

Still a bit sad, first of all they should have made it bigger, mind you de Kuip was build in a time when there was a real crisis out there. And it means I've got only a few years left in de Kuip. Now I know one can't eat from nostalgic alone, but the new stadium will be a 13 in a dozen concrete mall thingy. With all different kinds of leisure for everybody Erm ! Gone is the smell of Nitrate, Urine, Weed, Beer and bitterballen.

But most of all, de Kuip is made out of steel. So when everyone is jumping after a goal, or celebration, the stadium literally shakes!



With the current steel prices no way that will happen! So not sure if one can be happy or not. Cause a new stadium doesnt always help (re Arsenal)

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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by Isco Benny on Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:38 pm

So we can expect 15,000 empty seats at Rottendam's newest stadium at least?

Nope, those stadium photos/plans are what will be built.

It's all done and agreed. http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/spurs/The+Stadium/new-stadium-plans.page

Look at that single tier kop behind the goal Blush

Hey Fey, you can come visit and sit up there with me and TS when we're in the CL beating Barcelona in the final. Bring your Feyenoord shirt, squint really hard and you can then pretend it's your small little club out there!

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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by The Chosen Glenn on Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:41 pm

what does de Kuip mean when translated into English?

the c**ts?
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Re: European Stadium Plans

Post by Fey on Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:25 pm

Disco Benny wrote:So we can expect 15,000 empty seats at Rottendam's newest stadium at least?

Nope, those stadium photos/plans are what will be built.

It's all done and agreed. http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/spurs/The+Stadium/new-stadium-plans.page

Look at that single tier kop behind the goal Blush

Hey Fey, you can come visit and sit up there with me and TS when we're in the CL beating Barcelona in the final. Bring your Feyenoord shirt, squint really hard and you can then pretend it's your small little club out there!

Rose

No Silly Bernd, it wil sell out.

So tell me Silly Bernd if it's all done and agreed, I reckon they have started building already? Dont you think it's weird that London has an obsession to build stadiums it doesnt really need. I mean Wembley...that Olympic stadium and a CL stadium for Spurs. All three are completely unnecessary.

As for the artist impression actually being real, well I feel sorry for you.

I have seen this pic before when argueing another Fey who thought this:



was better then this!



Madness!

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