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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:26 am

Funniest moment of the match yesterday: Ronaldo vs. the mean one man wall of 1,70m - Philipp Lahm.




Different angle:





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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:39 am

Unfortunately, I couldn't watch the other group match yesterday, but it looks like USA under Klinsmann finally managed to beat their nemesis Ghana, who knocked them out of the last two WCs. Klinsmann ist still a conte for stealing German talent, but fair play to him, especially after all the stick he got in America.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:22 am

mongrel hawk wrote:what a pussy:


attention seeking fag
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by mongrel hawk on Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:30 am

Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:I'm looking forward to the match Belgium and Algeria.

are you drunk?

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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Formerly known as sheva7 on Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:31 pm

mongrel hawk wrote:
Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:I'm looking forward to the match Belgium and Algeria.

are you drunk?

My hope of seeing argies out of the semifinals relies on Belgium. They must start well and get confidence. Smile

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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Formerly known as sheva7 on Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:37 pm

110% wrote:
Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:I'm looking forward to the match Belgium and Algeria. Let's see if Belgium can live up to the hype or if they will be like Colombia in 94 or Portugal in 2002.

According to some previews, Van Buyten will start. He might do well against weaker opponents, but his pace and agility aren't even close to sufficient for taking on world's best forwards in the knock out stages. Vermaelen would be a better option. IMO Alderweireld and Van Buyten are liabilites in the Belgium starting XI.

BTW Belgians are weird. They walk shirtless through downtown. I've never seen it before here in Belo Horizonte. No joke.

But he'll be fine if he comes up against Fred?


Smile

No. Not even against Fred..

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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by 110% on Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:19 pm

World cup players to watch:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/world-cup-players-to-watch,36267/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=Default:1:Default&recirc=sports-culture#1

Funny and true
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Pierre Littbarski on Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:48 pm

110% wrote:World cup players to watch:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/world-cup-players-to-watch,36267/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=Default:1:Default&recirc=sports-culture#1

Funny and true

 <Ale> 

Shocking performance from Bento yesterday - should have dropped one of the 3 midfielders (Meireles) and replaced with varela/Vieirinha and should have been Eder, Postiga or any Portuguese male between the age of 18 and 35 ahead of Almeida.

Should have played 4-2-3-1 instead of 4-3-3 - let Germany defenders have ball and then have 3 pouncing on Lahm/Khedira as soon as they have the ball.

Guardiola likes Lahm in midfield because he is intelligent.

Stephen Hawking is also intelligent but I wouldn't play him in central midifeld.

There just isn't enough footballing ability in a Lahm/Khedira midfield - they need Schweini back ASAP and play Kroos deeper until then.


Nigeria v Iran was excruciating.

Ghana v USA wasn't very good in terms of entertaining football but high drama.

Loads of people liked the celebration from Brooks - "what the World Cup is all about".

I found it very annoying, I can understand the initial outpouring of emotion but it went on too long, looked a bit put on and by the time he had resisted the 3rd team mate trying to pull him up was a bit pretentious.

Savage is an absolute twat - lots of people also having a go at Klinsman for claiming elbow when they have the benefit of a slow mo from the opposite side.


Don't like Henry but his delivery of this was perfection...

Robbie Savage: "At Leicester City, Thierry [Henry]'s Arsenal used to hate it when we got stuck in and gave them no space, didn't you Thierry?"

Henry: "We managed."

 lol!
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:06 pm

It's not a Lahm / Khedira midfield, but a Lahm - Khedira - Kroos midfield, Germany play a 4-3-3 system now, not 4-2-3-1 anymore. And it's actually very balanced: One DM (Lahm), one box-to-box (Khedira) an one strategist (Kroos). It get's the best of all players and adds stability in the centre which we desperately needed.

Once Lahm got used to his role, he did a good job. Germany don't need a physical presence there necessarily, but an intelligent one, someone to fill the gaps and get things going, while concentrating on the defence. We're the tallest team in the tournament anyway and we won't be out-muscled.

Plus, trying to isolate our defenders doesn't make that much sense in the heat of Northern Brazil, knowing that the likes of Boateng and especially Hummels are very comfortable on the ball and can actually pass very well, particularly precise long balls to escape that early press pretty easily.

Still, it's early days, nothing more than three points in the bag. I hope Löw continues to give this formation some playing time so everyone gets used to it. Being flexible and having different options from the bench is fine and important, but we need some continuity, too.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Jaime on Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:07 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Unfortunately, I couldn't watch the other group match yesterday, but it looks like USA under Klinsmann finally managed to beat their nemesis Ghana, who knocked them out of the last two WCs. Klinsmann ist still a conte for stealing German talent, but fair play to him, especially after all the stick he got in America.

I was talking to a friend about this yesterday. But are any of them good enough to actually play for Germany?
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:09 pm

Julian Green (Bayern youth) could come good in future. That's the one I'm a bit pissed off about, knowing that Germany lack in the strikers department currently.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:48 pm



lol!
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by mongrel hawk on Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:57 pm

Roberto Carlos says Russia will reach the semis.  Doh

http://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/selecoes/russia/noticia/2014/06/roberto-carlos-compara-capello-felipao-e-preve-russia-na-semifinal.html
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Isco Benny on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:00 pm

Ooooh, 4 Spurs #WojciechSzeszny's starting this game: Dembele, Vertonghen, Chadli for Belgium and Bentaleb for Algeria.

Has anyone else mentioned just how shite those player bio videos are with the folding hands? Rolling Eyes

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Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:06 pm

Yes.

The darkest of dark horses with a wobbly start. After just five minutes playing time Algeria look like the best African team so far.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Isco Benny on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:19 pm

Slow start by Belgium. Look a bit ponderous off the ball. Perhaps looking to conserve energy. Certainly don't look as fluid as they did in qualifiers so far.

Algeria move the ball around nicely but expect they'll tail off quickly.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Axeslammer on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:24 pm

OOps, Belgium's in trouble...
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Axeslammer on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:24 pm

1-0 Algeria.....who'd have expected that...
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Isco Benny on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:24 pm

Vertonghen lol!

Been doing that all season to be fair. Idiot.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:24 pm

Vertonghen is a liability.

Fey, I told you that Belgium aren't as good as you (and many others) made them, but you didn't want to hear it.


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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Kimbo on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:24 pm

Isco Benny wrote:Ooooh, 4 Spurs #WojciechSzeszny's starting this game: Dembele, Vertonghen, Chadli for Belgium and Bentaleb for Algeria.

 ok Explains why they're losing.
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Post by Jaime on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:25 pm

Spurs legend Vertonghen!
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Luis on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:30 pm

Belgium crumbling under the pressure. Where's Mirallas?
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:30 pm

Belgium are extremely slow on the break, their off the ball movement is crap, Hazard hogging onto the ball as a consequence.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Jaime on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:32 pm

Belgium need Fellaini out there.
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Post by Kimbo on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:33 pm

I don't get their defence, it looks like 4 CB's, in an era where wingbacks are in fashion, seems like they're just crowbarring in highly rated players.
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Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:40 pm

We played with 4 CBs yesterday. It's how you use them that makes the difference. Belgium look very static, probably the heat and humidity that is similar to yesterday, but you'd expect them to be prepared for that.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Kimbo on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:47 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:We played with 4 CBs yesterday. It's how you use them that makes the difference. Belgium look very static, probably the heat and humidity that is similar to yesterday, but you'd expect them to be prepared for that.

But was it a tactical decision or were you crowbarring players in? Against a team like Algeria that is obviously going to sit back all game it seems pointless.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:50 pm

Disappointing by Belgium, basically created one chance from open play which they wasted cheaply. Algeria look tactically very well drilled, can see them causing a few teams problems. A proper "Team Progress", but unlike Greece and the likes, they are proper footballers, too.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by blutgraetsche on Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:53 pm

Kimbo wrote:
blutgraetsche wrote:We played with 4 CBs yesterday. It's how you use them that makes the difference. Belgium look very static, probably the heat and humidity that is similar to yesterday, but you'd expect them to be prepared for that.

But was it a tactical decision or were you crowbarring players in? Against a team like Algeria that is obviously going to sit back all game it seems pointless.

Of course a tactical decision, and you're right. Just wanted to point out that wing backs aren't necessarily the solution, especially under these climatic challenges.

Belgium need better movement. No movement, no passing, no chances. Simple as.

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