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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by S4P on Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:56 pm

But... but... but, Gerrard's a legend, captain fantastic, Istanbul and all that.

It's amazing how he's survived longer than all the other 30+ *golden generation* group, who have all been dropped at some point or another.

Even half-fit Suarez is still lethal. And how much did PSG pay for Cavani?


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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Luis on Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:56 pm

Bloody Gerrard, how dare he try and win a header Grr

England played better vs Italy. Hodgson very meh with his decisions tonight.

England are going home.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Fey on Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:56 pm

christmasborocooper wrote:Rooney in fairness has worked his bollocks off and done some good.

<Ale>

Fuck Gerrard, and fuck his shitty Liverpool mates. Fucking losers the lot of them.

Lethergic coaching from Hodge though.

Can't believe Lampard and Cleverley arent brought on instead of Henny and Gerry
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:56 pm

Kimbo wrote:Nice long range shot Stevie G. This fucking guy.

in euro 2004 it was clear to see that england would win nothing with gerrard/lampard in central midfield. For some reason it's taken 10 years for them to be dropped.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:58 pm

Kimbo wrote:Compare this lot to Australia and the US, they're gutless.

ok
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Isco Benny on Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:58 pm

Great assist by Gerrard Ale
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Post by shazlx on Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:58 pm

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:i think england underestimated uruguay here.
In what way? I don't think we would have set up with different players, system or style against any opposition. Hodgson wanted to play the players he wanted to play, in the only limited way he knew how.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:58 pm

so england fans cheering for italy 2moro?
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Post by christmasborocooper on Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:59 pm

I'm going to have a spag bol
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by ERIK LAMELA on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:00 pm

mongrel hawk wrote:
Kimbo wrote:Compare this lot to Australia and the US, they're gutless.

ok

Spot on.
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Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:01 pm

shazlx wrote:
BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:i think england underestimated uruguay here.
In what way? I don't think we would have set up with different players, system or style against any opposition. Hodgson wanted to play the players he wanted to play, in the only limited way he knew how.

the players themselves under estimated them. They saw Costa Rica beat them, and thought that all they needed to do was turn up, and they would win.

and ITV pundits are deluded if they think the difference was Suarez. Both Cavani and Suarez missed easy chances at the start of the 2nd half.
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Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:02 pm

Isco Benny wrote:Great assist by Gerrard Ale

not as good as the assist he gave to Henry against France.
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Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:02 pm

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blutgraetsche wrote:Looks delicious. Argentinian Steak is world famous, but I guess the Urus are Fine, too.

Argie steak is the best, but obviously Todo will not admit it because he is brasilLian. . ;-)

Both Brazilian and Argentine are good churrascos.

But the best for me is the Uruguayan, espeially cow intestines and other guts, which are their speciality:



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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by shazlx on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:03 pm

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
Kimbo wrote:Nice long range shot Stevie G. This fucking guy.

in euro 2004 it was clear to see that england would win nothing with gerrard/lampard in central midfield. For some reason it's taken 10 years for them to be dropped.
Wrong!

After Euro04 The Gerrard and Lampard axis was at the height of its support by the media, most fans and coaches. So much so lots of people dismissed Scholes's retirement as insignificant. It was only after WC06 people began to catch on.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Kimbo on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:03 pm

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
shazlx wrote:
BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:i think england underestimated uruguay here.
In what way? I don't think we would have set up with different players, system or style against any opposition. Hodgson wanted to play the players he wanted to play, in the only limited way he knew how.

the players themselves under estimated them. They saw Costa Rica beat them, and thought that all they needed to do was turn up, and they would win.

and ITV pundits are deluded if they think the difference was Suarez. Both Cavani and Suarez missed easy chances at the start of the 2nd half.

It was basically the same performance that we saw against Italy.
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Post by christmasborocooper on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:03 pm

Luis wrote:Bloody Gerrard, how dare he try and win a header Grr

England played better vs Italy. Hodgson very meh with his decisions tonight.

England are going home.

Gerrard was pretty poor overall in the end. His shit header just rounded it off.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by shazlx on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:04 pm

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
shazlx wrote:
BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:i think england underestimated uruguay here.
In what way? I don't think we would have set up with different players, system or style against any opposition. Hodgson wanted to play the players he wanted to play, in the only limited way he knew how.

the players themselves under estimated them. They saw Costa Rica beat them, and thought that all they needed to do was turn up, and they would win.

and ITV pundits are deluded if they think the difference was Suarez. Both Cavani and Suarez missed easy chances at the start of the 2nd half.
You're giving too much credit to the England players. This lot don't have a higher level of focus/ tactical nous. This is it.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:05 pm

Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:English don't diveVery Happy

The English dioved against Italy (twice) and Uruguay (about 300 times).
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:05 pm

Kimbo wrote:
BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
shazlx wrote:
BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:i think england underestimated uruguay here.
In what way? I don't think we would have set up with different players, system or style against any opposition. Hodgson wanted to play the players he wanted to play, in the only limited way he knew how.

the players themselves under estimated them. They saw Costa Rica beat them, and thought that all they needed to do was turn up, and they would win.

and ITV pundits are deluded if they think the difference was Suarez. Both Cavani and Suarez missed easy chances at the start of the 2nd half.

It was basically the same performance that we saw against Italy.

i.e. shit
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:06 pm

It's just that England were all over Uruguay in that phase. Their defence looked unsettled, yes, but they really put a lot of pressure on Uruguay. And then comes Gerrard with his perfect assist for his Liverpool team mate. It was against the run of play and broke their neck.
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Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:07 pm

christmasborocooper wrote:
Luis wrote:Bloody Gerrard, how dare he try and win a header Grr

England played better vs Italy. Hodgson very meh with his decisions tonight.

England are going home.

Gerrard was pretty poor overall in the end. His shit header just rounded it off.

yeh for the first goal he missed a tackle on lodeiro.

Finally england can move on from him now.

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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by NeoChap on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:07 pm

Luis wrote:Bloody Gerrard, how dare he try and win a header :grr:

England played better vs Italy. Hodgson very meh with his decisions tonight.

Obviously Gerrard's getting extra credit because of past form and going to shit there after his mistake, but it's very much Jagielka too. Don't see how you can blame Roy though. The first two changes made a positive impact, and he clearly held back the last one for a throw of the dice - when Lambert messed up every time he got near the ball anyway.

A team that isn't built to control the game, we made chances, converted only one, and defended poorly. Depressing because it's a decent set of players, but basically a tough reflection of being in a group with good teams.
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Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:07 pm

christmasborocooper wrote:I think blut is lashing out after the Muller cheating incident

He's totally confounded now. ok
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Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:09 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:England do play dirty though, almost Uru like.

But not as dirty as Germany, that rig WC games (1974, 1982), take dope (1954) and dive in a WC final game to win (1990).
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Post by Isco Benny on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:10 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:It's just that England were all over Uruguay in that phase. Their defence looked unsettled, yes, but they really put a lot of pressure on Uruguay. And then comes Gerrard with his perfect assist for his Liverpool team mate. It was against the run of play and broke their neck.

Gerrard really is a fucking loser. Consistently manages to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory for England.

Can't wait to see the back of him. Hearing all these ex pros in the media fawning over him and comparing him to the likes of Pirlo is just bile inducing.

Both he and Rooney have been the most frustrating players to watch YET AGAIN in a major tournament. Do one you overrated c*nts Ale
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Post by Kimbo on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:11 pm

NeoChap wrote:
Luis wrote:Bloody Gerrard, how dare he try and win a header Grr

England played better vs Italy. Hodgson very meh with his decisions tonight.

Obviously Gerrard's getting extra credit because of past form and going to shit there after his mistake, but it's very much Jagielka too. Don't see how you can blame Roy though. The first two changes made a positive impact, and he clearly held back the last one for a throw of the dice - when Lambert messed up every time he got near the ball anyway.

A team that isn't built to control the game, we made chances, converted only one, and defended poorly. Depressing because it's a decent set of players, but basically a tough reflection of being in a group with good teams.

Jagielka needs replaced aswell

We need a new keeper, new fullbacks, a new CB, a new CM, and a new striker that can actually lead the line. For all these fancy young AM that are coming through we're thin everywhere else.

And a new manager ofcourse.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Fey on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:11 pm

FFS I feel sorry for them Anglo-Saxons, the little warrior nation from the island. They are better then most SA teams, but they dont believe in themselves! FFS mediabias says I.

Also, England needs to TROLL more, South-Americans ALWAYS take the bait ffs!

Good 2nd half btw.
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Re: 2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:12 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Urus again knackered at the end of the match? England need to push on!

Shut up, Blut.
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Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:14 pm

mongrel hawk wrote:
blutgraetsche wrote:Urus again knackered at the end of the match? England need to push on!

Shut up, Blut.

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Blut is such a little fanny.
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Post by ERIK LAMELA on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:14 pm

I will be completely honest. I don't consider England to be any better than Australia. At best they are comparable to a side like Japan. The idea that England is a good football side must end. Qualifying for a tournament is the achievement for England.

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