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2014 World Cup - Group Stages

Post by Kimbo on Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:43 pm

Some proper shit on a stick from Ecuador tonight, thankfully the Swiss are going through. <Ale>
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Post by Super Progress on Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:50 pm

Kimbo wrote:
Fey wrote:Pogba..honestly I dont see it.a copy of Fer though even he would have made that sitter.

Sissoko looks better for France. ok
ok

Pogba is a great individual but Sissoko does what his best for the team just like the others while Pogba always seems to want to do things his way even if it is counter-productive.
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Post by Fey on Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:53 pm

Im quite curious on how they got they got all those black people into Equador back in the day..into the Amazon over the Andes..must have been a daunting task.
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Post by Fey on Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:55 pm

Kimbo wrote:
Fey wrote:Pogba..honestly I dont see it.a copy of Fer though even he would have made that sitter.

Sissoko looks better for France. ok

Meh, lood om oud ijzer.
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Post by Kimbo on Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:57 pm

Fey wrote:Im quite curious on how they got they got all those black people into Equador back in the day..into the Amazon over the Andes..must have been a daunting task.

Maybe they chased them there?
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Post by The Chosen Glenn on Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:59 pm

if anyone hasn't read Balotelli's latest offering, check it out ok
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Post by mongrel hawk on Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:59 pm

Fey wrote:Im quite curious on how they got they got all those black people into Equador back in the day..into the Amazon over the Andes..must have been a daunting task.

Have you heard about ships?
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Post by Fey on Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:03 pm

mongrel hawk wrote:
Fey wrote:Im quite curious on how they got they got all those black people into Equador back in the day..into the Amazon over the Andes..must have been a daunting task.

Have you heard about ships?

Never! what a fucking detour though if this is the case, from W-Africa, across South America going past Drake Passage, (im assuming this was before the Panama canal was digged) the cost would have been enormous. No wonder the WIC went bankrupt!
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Post by mongrel hawk on Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:05 pm

Fey wrote:
mongrel hawk wrote:
Fey wrote:Im quite curious on how they got they got all those black people into Equador back in the day..into the Amazon over the Andes..must have been a daunting task.

Have you heard about ships?

Never! what a fucking detour though if this is the case, from W-Africa, across South America going past Drake Passage, (im assuming this was before the Panama canal was digged) the cost would have been enormous. No wonder the WIC went bankrupt!

It was much cheaper (and faster) to go there by ship than by land.
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Post by Fey on Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:12 pm

mongrel hawk wrote:
Fey wrote:
mongrel hawk wrote:
Fey wrote:Im quite curious on how they got they got all those black people into Equador back in the day..into the Amazon over the Andes..must have been a daunting task.

Have you heard about ships?

Never! what a fucking detour though if this is the case, from W-Africa, across South America going past Drake Passage, (im assuming this was before the Panama canal was digged) the cost would have been enormous. No wonder the WIC went bankrupt!

It was much cheaper (and faster) to go there by ship than by land.
Yes, that is true, but the amount of people that would have died, would make it hardly any worth the journey. No, me thinks they went to Panama to use it as a hub, and from there with the boat to Equador. Me thinks the Valencia's were pretty strong in those days ok



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Post by Kimbo on Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:14 pm

I wonder if South American black people are as angry about slavery as North American black people.
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Post by Super Progress on Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:34 pm

Kimbo wrote:I wonder if South American black people are as angry about slavery as North American black people.
The big difference between Latin America and North America is that in the latter all black to semi black people are considered black. This creates unity and for the elite blacks(usually very light skin and up to 75% white) it pays to harp on slavery etc. They profit from it.

In Latin America they have a more nuanced view on race. Rather than being black or white you can be things in between. With this social system you tend to have every one wanting to be white or at least not identified as black. The opposite of America. So complaining about being a victim of slavery would suggest you are black/mostly black which gives you no social benefit in Latin America, in fact it is worse.

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Post by Di Caniooooo! on Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:47 am

Kroos wrote:line up vs. usa

everything speaks for schweini, khedira is just facking garbage, he adds nothing, i really don`t know what he is doing in midfield

the medias expect this, there won`t be surprises though, only schweini

------neuer
boa-merte--hummels-hwedes
-----schweini-kroos-lahm
zil-mller-gtze

hmm zil is a bit annoying, has he really only the left foot, he looks so predictable on the flank, always cutting inside

Lets pull a 1982! Play kick around for 90 minutes.
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Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:52 am

Super Progress wrote:
Kimbo wrote:I wonder if South American black people are as angry about slavery as North American black people.
The big difference between Latin America and North America is that in the latter all black to semi black people are considered black. This creates unity and for the elite blacks(usually very light skin and up to 75% white) it pays to harp on slavery etc. They profit from it.

In Latin America they have a more nuanced view on race. Rather than being black or white you can be things in between. With this social system you tend to have every one wanting to be white or at least not identified as black. The opposite of America. So complaining about being a victim of slavery would suggest you are black/mostly black which gives you no social benefit in Latin America, in fact it is worse.

You're right, SP. Neymar and fat Ronaldo, for example, declared that they don't see themselves as blacks. Racism in Brazil is more veiled. People are racist here (even the blacks) and still think they are not. For them, to be a racist they should hate blacks and want them to die, but they may say openly they wouldn't want their son to date a mulata/black and still think this is no racism. But it's beginning to change. Black movements are growing in Brazil and the number of mulatos who identify themselves as blacks is also growing.

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Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:53 am

Di Caniooooo! wrote:
Kroos wrote:line up vs. usa

everything speaks for schweini, khedira is just facking garbage, he adds nothing, i really don`t know what he is doing in midfield

the medias expect this, there won`t be surprises though, only schweini

------neuer
boa-merte--hummels-hwedes
-----schweini-kroos-lahm
zil-mller-gtze

hmm zil is a bit annoying, has he really only the left foot, he looks so predictable on the flank, always cutting inside

Lets pull a 1982! Play kick around for 90 minutes.

That's what Brazilian sport TV was talking about right now. They even showed flashes of the game. It seems both teams were booed by the Spanish for a long time during the match. Embarassed

All this big show to kick ALGERIA out. And Germany may face Algeria in the 2nd round, and all the talk will come around again.
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Post by Kimbo on Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:19 am

Is Neymar part Japanese or something?

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Post by Di Caniooooo! on Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:11 am

Kimbo wrote:Is Neymar part Japanese or something?
Could be, over a million Japanese live in Brazil.
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Post by Super Progress on Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:25 am



USA! USA! USA!
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Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:43 pm

Di Caniooooo! wrote:
Kimbo wrote:Is Neymar part Japanese or something?
Could be, over a million Japanese live in Brazil.

As far as I know, over 1 million just in So Paulo city.

Neymar is mixed black and white. His hair is naturally curled, but he makes it straight.
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Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:28 pm

FFS. Ghana players made a mutiny and asked for money. Tha Ghanese FA sent a big box of money to Brazil in a plane, and today they announced that Boateng and Muntari are out of the WC and won't play anymore. Shocked
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Post by Effenberg on Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:06 pm

Recife is pretty much under water after heavy rainfall for almost a day. Hope the pitch will be in decent condition. Surely they must be prepared for this since June/July is rainy season there.

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Post by Di Caniooooo! on Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:09 pm

Effenberg wrote:Recife is pretty much under water after heavy rainfall for almost a day. Hope the pitch will be in decent condition. Surely they must be prepared for this since June/July is rainy season there.
Yeah, roads are flooded, teams might have hard time getting there. US fans reporting a dead body on the side of one of the main roads, guy was hit by a car, and has been there for a while.
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Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:12 pm

Effenberg wrote:Recife is pretty much under water after heavy rainfall for almost a day. Hope the pitch will be in decent condition. Surely they must be prepared for this since June/July is rainy season there.

Brazilians are never prepared for anything.

In our flag it's written "order and progress". Forget it. The reality is "improvisation and progress if possible".
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Post by Kimbo on Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:56 pm

9 game ban and 4 month general football ban for niblet. The 9 games must be international games.
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Post by debaser on Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:58 pm

couldn't have happened to a more deserving c**t Ale

now cue Liverpool fan outrage...
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Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:00 pm

Kimbo wrote:9 game ban and 4 month general football ban for niblet. The 9 games must be international games.

Fair. He can't play this WC again. And the way the Uruguayans are defending him is ridiculous.
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Post by Kimbo on Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:02 pm

debaser wrote:couldn't have happened to a more deserving c**t Ale

now cue Liverpool fan outrage...

The scouse will complain they are being picked on, but this is the price they pay for keeping a guy like this on their books.
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Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:08 pm

If no one wants him in Europe, you can send him to Corinthians. I'll be glad. Ale

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Post by Di Caniooooo! on Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:21 pm

Jeremy Schaap @JeremySchaap 3m
Agent @RichardMotzkin tells ESPN US team family and friends have decided not to attempt trip to stadium. Too treacherous.

Bummer
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Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:47 pm

Di Caniooooo! wrote:
Jeremy Schaap @JeremySchaap 3m
Agent @RichardMotzkin tells ESPN US team family and friends have decided not to attempt trip to stadium. Too treacherous.

Bummer

Pussies. Doh

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