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2014 World Cup Final

Post by Jaime on Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:23 am

Germany vs. Argentina


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Re: 2014 World Cup Final

Post by Formerly known as sheva7 on Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:50 am

Will you create a 3rd place match thread? Smile
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Post by Jaime on Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:55 am

Haha oh yeah for sure. Biggrin
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Re: 2014 World Cup Final

Post by debaser on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:08 am

I love how the only comments on this thread are about the 3rd place match, and the 3rd place thread itself is also much busier Laughing

WORLD CUP FINAL, people!

naturally, I'm just hoping for a great match and both teams to lose Smiley
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Re: 2014 World Cup Final

Post by Antarion on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:17 am

debaser wrote:


naturally, I'm just hoping for a great match and both teams to lose Smiley

 Biggrin 



Can Di Maria play?
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Re: 2014 World Cup Final

Post by Fey on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:19 am

Germany gonna rout them..worst line-up for the final.
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Re: 2014 World Cup Final

Post by Kimbo on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:19 am

England's 2 most hated countries in the world cup final. Lovely.
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Re: 2014 World Cup Final

Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:19 am

Antarion wrote:
Can Di Maria play?

Apparently not. But his replacement looked really good tonight.

Looking forward to this "Klassiker". Will be a completely new, different match. I just hope that Hummels is fully fit, that will be very important for us.
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Re: 2014 World Cup Final

Post by Antarion on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:21 am

Kimbo wrote:England's 2 most hated countries in the world cup final. Lovely.

Yeah, bloody FIFA. As if the Quatar vote was not enough

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Re: 2014 World Cup Final

Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:23 am

Kimbo wrote:England's 2 most hated countries in the world cup final. Lovely.

England only hates one country and we all know who they'll support on Sunday. Smile
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Re: 2014 World Cup Final

Post by Kimbo on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:41 am

blutgraetsche wrote:
Kimbo wrote:England's 2 most hated countries in the world cup final. Lovely.

England only hates one country and we all know who they'll support on Sunday. Smile

I think the Argentina rivalry is more unpleasant, people will root for the Krauts.
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Re: 2014 World Cup Final

Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:44 am

Kimbo wrote:
blutgraetsche wrote:
Kimbo wrote:England's 2 most hated countries in the world cup final. Lovely.

England only hates one country and we all know who they'll support on Sunday. Smile

I think the Argentina rivalry is more unpleasant, people will root for the Krauts.

Brazil will certainly root for the Krauts. I expect a crowd of Flamengo supporters wearing Flamengo jersey (same as Germany away jersey) to support the Germans.
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Re: 2014 World Cup Final

Post by DD on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:57 am

I'll be rooting for Germany. Not because I hate Argentina - even though they'll be underdogs in this match, at no point have they been impressive.

Germany are the better side and the better squad. They were (arguably) the favourites before the tournament, and their game, professionalism and excecution have undoubtedly been the best of the tournament, and fully deserve to be officially crowned "the best team in the world". (A couple of dives aside), they're even likeable. Their approach to youth development should (and will) be the template for many nations. This will be the occasion when all that work and dedication comes to fruition, and one the times they truly deserve to win.

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Post by Fey on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:58 am

If one of them become WC winners, will there be a new shirt? I basically have them all, except Argentina and Germany are missing, Germany looks not so great as usual, but perhaps it will be classic like the 1988-1990 one. Or will they get a new one after they won? Same goes for Argentina. Both their away shirts are awful.
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Post by DD on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:59 am

Who will be the homeside? One of them won't wear their home colours.
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Post by Antarion on Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:01 am

DD wrote:Who will be the homeside? One of them won't wear their home colours.

Wouldn't mind the red/black. I don't like our all whites.

Don't know who is home side though...

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Post by Formerly known as sheva7 on Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:18 am

I think that Germany is home side. Todo, will you support Germany or Argentina?
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Post by mongrel hawk on Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:23 am

Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:I think that Germany is home side. Todo, will you support Germany or Argentina?

Contrary to almost all Brazilians, I always support South America. But if Germany win it will be very deserved and it will crown the best team up to now.

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Post by Formerly known as sheva7 on Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:30 am

I support América Latina, except Argentina. Smile
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Re: 2014 World Cup Final

Post by Kroos on Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:01 am

at least they won`t hide like the netherlands would have done


seriously this must be the worst side in an WC Final since 2002  Suspect

i really don`t rate them at all

i don`t see a single area where they are better than us, yeah you can argue with messi, but he looks garbage without support from his limited team mates
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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:07 am

Kroos wrote:at least they won`t hide like the netherlands would have done

Actually, I do expect Argentina to play very defensively against us, just like they have done all tournament to be honest.


seriously this must be the worst side in an WC Final since 2002  Suspect

i really don`t rate them at all

i don`t see a single area where they are better than us, yeah you can argue with messi, but he looks garbage without support from his limited team mates

Totally disagree. They have a strong defence and are very well organised, close down space very effectively. They play as a team for once and are difficult to break down. Plus, they have genuine quality up front to hurt us, even if lacking penetration so far in this tournament.

It's going to be a difficult and close match. The worst thing our team could do now is becoming complacent and underestimating them, that's actually my worst fear after the Brazil spanking. We need to be sharp, focused and determined. Expect a match similar to the 1/4 finals vs. France. It'll be very important for us to have Hummels fit, as I said earlier.

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Post by 110% on Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:45 am

I expect Argentina to play for penalties from the first minute or look for some magic from messi. If they go a goal up then they look defensively good enough to hold out. If they concede first and have to come out and play they'll get done like Brazil, just not as badly.

I took that newspaper poll that said I was secretly supporting Germany, but  honestly couldn't choose between the Germans and the Dutch until last night. Kimbo can now reveal that I'm a German Scouser born in Hong Kong and living in Scandinavia Wink.

But beyond that I've always disliked Argentina. They always seem like a bunch of whiny little c**ts who kick the opposition, surround the ref, engage in any and every kind of cheating without any remorse. Basically the barca of international football. I hope that either Germany batter them 4-0 or in case it is a close game a handball goal or a Muller dive/penalty to beat them  cheers 

And of course there is the particularly shit rat tail!!!
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Re: 2014 World Cup Final

Post by Kroos on Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:51 am

blutgraetsche wrote:
Kroos wrote:at least they won`t hide like the netherlands would have done

Actually, I do expect Argentina to play very defensively against us, just like they have done all tournament to be honest.


seriously this must be the worst side in an WC Final since 2002  Suspect

i really don`t rate them at all

i don`t see a single area where they are better than us, yeah you can argue with messi, but he looks garbage without support from his limited team mates

Totally disagree. They have a strong defence and are very well organised, close down space very effectively. They play as a team for once and are difficult to break down. Plus, they have genuine quality up front to hurt us, even if lacking penetration so far in this tournament.

It's going to be a difficult and close match. The worst thing our team could do now is becoming complacent and underestimating them, that's actually my worst fear after the Brazil spanking. We need to be sharp, focused and determined. Expect a match similar to the 1/4 finals vs. France. It'll be very important for us to have Hummels fit, as I said earlier.

they will try to close down our game, but they haven`t played a quality side like ours for at least 10 years

at the end we will all say "france was our strongest opponent at this WC"

Brasil was also known for closing down opponents, look what happened, south american football is a decade away from modern football

yeah argentina will wait, but they won`t hide on there own box, they will stay higher up the field, the netherlands would have played really bus parking

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Post by blutgraetsche on Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:13 am

Argentina will definitely not give us as much space as Brazil did. Remember that Brazil actually looked pretty good for the first few minutes of the match, nobody could have expected them to collapse like that after conceding.

Argentina are mentally stronger, have more quality and are especially tactically much better than Brazil. Plus, they are very motivated to win the WC on Brazilian soil, that's what their fans and even players have been singing about all tournament.

We must be very sharp and professional to win this. And yes, I'm more afraid of our own attitude.

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Post by 110% on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:08 pm

Who is going to win the golden ball? Messi or Mueller?

It's always a player from the winning team, so the final will also decide this.

probably it should be neuer
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Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:18 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Argentina will definitely not give us as much space as Brazil did. Remember that Brazil actually looked pretty good for the first few minutes of the match, nobody could have expected them to collapse like that after conceding.

Argentina are mentally stronger, have more quality and are especially tactically much better than Brazil. Plus, they are very motivated to win the WC on Brazilian soil, that's what their fans and even players have been singing about all tournament.

We must be very sharp and professional to win this. And yes, I'm more afraid of our own attitude.

Yes in the past few tournaments Germany have been labelled favourites after some big performances, yet they failed to perform later in the tournament. Low has to make sure this doesnt happen again.
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Post by BoBo Vieri 32 on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:22 pm

Kroos wrote:at least they won`t hide like the netherlands would have done


seriously this must be the worst side in an WC Final since 2002  Suspect

i really don`t rate them at all

i don`t see a single area where they are better than us, yeah you can argue with messi, but he looks garbage without support from his limited team mates

They are weak but most top international teams (excluding Germany) are much weaker than they were 10-15 years ago.
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Post by Antarion on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:25 pm

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
Kroos wrote:at least they won`t hide like the netherlands would have done


seriously this must be the worst side in an WC Final since 2002  Suspect

i really don`t rate them at all

i don`t see a single area where they are better than us, yeah you can argue with messi, but he looks garbage without support from his limited team mates

They are weak but most top international teams (excluding Germany) are much weaker than they were 10-15 years ago.

Don't think most are MUCH weaker. Just a bit and the rest of the world got better too.

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Re: 2014 World Cup Final

Post by Super Progress on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:51 pm

France 2006 > France 2010

Italy 2006 > Italy 2014

Argentina 2006 > Argentina 2014

Brazil 2006 > Brazil 2014

Holland 2010 > Holland 2014

Portugal 2006 > Portugal 2014

Germany 2006 < Germany 2014

Spain 2006 < Spain 2014

Bobo has a point

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Post by Antarion on Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:12 pm

I think Holland 2010 is not 10-15 years ago.
France is clearly in the same spot as Germany 1998/2002 and getting stronger now after their low points. Already near the 2006 France (which wasn't THAT good).

So its pretty even imo.

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