I am not sure about it, it was already after Allardyce time in Bolton, where he had a great results (from Bolton perspective). O'Neill was heavily backed by Lerner and had results on Moyes level who had much more limited funding.Kimbo wrote:stinger wrote:I rate Allardyce more than O'Neill, so for me it's different - he is upgrade comparing to O'Neill, not sure about Allardyce (but probably too).Kimbo wrote:stinger wrote:Sunderland appointed Moyes. I would expect him to do rather well for them, maybe they will finally move to mid table with him.
I'm hoping he will be another Martin O'Neill, he was supposed to do well with them as well. On paper he's a step up from Allardyce. Their problem of bring broke still remains though, I doubt he will be able to do much in the transfer market.
And Moyes during his Everton years had very good record of getting quality players for small money. Not sure if this will be possible in currrent transfer market climate, but from Sunderland finances department perspective he is probably the best manager they could hope for.
Back then O'Neill was rated higher than Allardyce has ever been, it was his first job after Villa, not to mention the fact he'd actually won things. Sunderland is usually death for managers, some old boys at the FA have helped Sam defy this.
You are quite ridiculous defending your agenda and trying so hard to avoid giving Big Sam any credit for doing a good job with Sunderland or elsewhere. I get it - he was terrible for Newcastle. But he was decent (West Ham) to good/very good anywhere else in recent years (Bolton, Blackburn, Sunderland). Why is it so hard to give the man some credit? I don't like his football either and would not want him as Poland NT manager, but except for Newcastle he left all the clubs in better shape than they were before his arrival.
And to finish on the bright side - when you will meet Sunderland in Premier League again in 2017/2018 with Benitez against Moyes you have at least 4 points guaranteed, as Rafa owned Moyes in majority of Merseyside derbies.