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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Isco Benny on Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:49 pm

Joe Ledley is a beardy pseudo hipster c**t.



Easily the most irritating game of the season. From the wanky MLS sounding fans to the ref to Pardews smug face. Stealing a living. They were proper hump it into the box shite. c**ts.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Luis on Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:35 pm

Sanchez is too good. Unless he gets a serious injury Arsenal will be making 4th pretty easily.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by S4P on Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:50 pm

To think many Barca fans were happy to see Sanchez & Cesc go...
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Luis on Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:53 pm

Barca have never learned - Henry, Ibra, Suarez. When you become too good I suppose you just get bored and want superstars in every position.

We should have forced Barca to give us Sanchez as part of the Suarez deal, with a gun.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Puro on Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:37 pm

S4P wrote:To think many Barca fans were happy to see Sanchez & Cesc go...

The vast majority of EPL teams are shite. TFS! <Ale>

That's why you always hear the sycophants in the zionist media "and this is why the EPL is the best league in the world" 50 times during a match when we see a rare exciting game.

Snchez and Fbregas are good players, but they're playing against considerably weaker opponents now every week. TFS! <Ale> <Ale> <Ale>

Oh and what a way to make sure the German Wollscheid gets every opportunity to fail immediately. He was loaned out from Leverkusen to Mainz where he didn't play much (sub appearances in injury time pretty much) and then loaned out to Stoke and Hughes throws him into the fire in a hostile environment. That's a shite manager right there! Biggrin <Ale>
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by christmasborocooper on Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:43 pm

No Falcao at all today. Seems like that's another deal gone wrong.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Kimbo on Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:51 pm

Sanchez is looking like the new Suarez, they really rack up the goals against the smaller teams. <Ale>
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Fey on Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:54 pm

Blind...he is so hilarious..
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Isco Benny on Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:27 pm

Hahaha, Man United are a fucking disgrace. Best go out and spend another 200million this month.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Fey on Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:30 pm

The EPL is overrated, with average Eredivisie players you can become a top team it seems. Though what a comeback from Koeman, EMP must feel gutted. Hell, we all thought his carreer as coach was done, and for the 2nd time in a month Koeman is schooling van Gaal.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Luis on Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:37 pm

Southampton are definitely not fucking about in this race for 3rd and 4th.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Fey on Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:39 pm

Luis wrote:Southampton are definitely not fucking about in this race for 3rd and 4th.

Albeit they have not the best material compared to lets say Spurs and such, but Koeman is a better coach then Poch. His teams are so organised.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Luis on Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:49 pm

Fey wrote:
Luis wrote:Southampton are definitely not fucking about in this race for 3rd and 4th.

Albeit they have not the best material compared to lets say Spurs and such, but Koeman is a better coach then Poch. His teams are so organised.

I would argue the teams are fairly equal. Southampton have a better defence for a start. Pelle, Schneiderlin, Mane, Tadic are all good quality players.

I'd also put us on that level right now as well.

United and Arsenal are the better teams because they boast world class players: Sanchez, Cazorla, Di Maria, Rooney, Mata.

But then when Sturridge returns if he can show anything like his form last season we are going to have a big boost.

Going to be interesting.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Isco Benny on Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:49 pm

Fey wrote:
Luis wrote:Southampton are definitely not fucking about in this race for 3rd and 4th.

Albeit they have not the best material compared to lets say Spurs and such, but Koeman is a better coach then Poch. His teams are so organised.

No other team is as embarrassing as United though. Have now spent more than Chelsea and City in gross transfers in last 3 years, 2nd highest wage bill and rising versus those two. No European football distraction. Out of the league cup in the 1st round. Played fewer games than anyone else in the top 7. Yet have stumbled their way through this season, benefitting as always from refereeing decisions and incapable of even playing remotely attractive football.

0 shots on target today.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Luis on Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:53 pm

Isco Benny wrote:
Fey wrote:
Luis wrote:Southampton are definitely not fucking about in this race for 3rd and 4th.

Albeit they have not the best material compared to lets say Spurs and such, but Koeman is a better coach then Poch. His teams are so organised.

No other team is as embarrassing as United though. Have now spent more than Chelsea and City in gross transfers in last 3 years, 2nd highest wage bill and rising versus those two. No European football distraction. Out of the league cup in the 1st round. Played fewer games than anyone else in the top 7. Yet have stumbled their way through this season, benefitting as always from refereeing decisions and incapable of even playing remotely attractive football.

0 shots on target today.

Whilst I dislike United immensely I don't really see how they should be embarrassed. It always takes time under a new manager unless you have a world class team already like when Mourinho came to Chelsea first time round or Pellegrini to City.

They're doing as well as they should be doing IMO - if Di Maria hadn't got injured they'd probably be second right now.

Once Van Gaal sorts the defence out in the summer they're going to be up there next season sadly.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Murray on Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:53 pm

It's Koeman who has the golden dick now, not Van Gaal.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Isco Benny on Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:02 pm

Luis wrote:
Isco Benny wrote:
Fey wrote:
Luis wrote:Southampton are definitely not fucking about in this race for 3rd and 4th.

Albeit they have not the best material compared to lets say Spurs and such, but Koeman is a better coach then Poch. His teams are so organised.

No other team is as embarrassing as United though. Have now spent more than Chelsea and City in gross transfers in last 3 years, 2nd highest wage bill and rising versus those two. No European football distraction. Out of the league cup in the 1st round. Played fewer games than anyone else in the top 7. Yet have stumbled their way through this season, benefitting as always from refereeing decisions and incapable of even playing remotely attractive football.

0 shots on target today.

Whilst I dislike United immensely I don't really see how they should be embarrassed. It always takes time under a new manager unless you have a world class team already like when Mourinho came to Chelsea first time round or Pellegrini to City.

They're doing as well as they should be doing IMO - if Di Maria hadn't got injured they'd probably be second right now.

Once Van Gaal sorts the defence out in the summer they're going to be up there next season sadly.

Id be embarrassed if I were a Man United supporter. There is difference between managing a budget by spending money on potential versus doing what United have done and spent huge amounts on apparently proven quality. Furthermore Van Gaal isnt a Rodgers or Pochettino. He's a enormously paid accomplished manager with a hige reputation, not a young upcoming manager forging a career based on potential.

Its been 6 months since Van Gaal has been there. Koeman / Southampton had an even bigger change of personnel to deal with, and here we are, United werent even capable of a shot on target. So what if Di Maria is injured, just look at Uniteds attacking players.

Riches/reputation vs Reality - it is embarrassing.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Fey on Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:06 pm

Luis wrote:
Isco Benny wrote:
Fey wrote:
Luis wrote:Southampton are definitely not fucking about in this race for 3rd and 4th.

Albeit they have not the best material compared to lets say Spurs and such, but Koeman is a better coach then Poch. His teams are so organised.

No other team is as embarrassing as United though. Have now spent more than Chelsea and City in gross transfers in last 3 years, 2nd highest wage bill and rising versus those two. No European football distraction. Out of the league cup in the 1st round. Played fewer games than anyone else in the top 7. Yet have stumbled their way through this season, benefitting as always from refereeing decisions and incapable of even playing remotely attractive football.

0 shots on target today.

Whilst I dislike United immensely I don't really see how they should be embarrassed. It always takes time under a new manager unless you have a world class team already like when Mourinho came to Chelsea first time round or Pellegrini to City.

They're doing as well as they should be doing IMO - if Di Maria hadn't got injured they'd probably be second right now.

Once Van Gaal sorts the defence out in the summer they're going to be up there next season sadly.

0 shots on goal, though only 1 shot give away, the transfers have been abysmal. Dimaria, Falcao, Mata, Herrera arent what we expected. And Blind, Shaw etc are just downright shit.

Shows again the thin line between a hit and a miss. I always thought Falcao was better then Costa, yet one season with injuries and your done as a striker it seems.

And you are right, sort out the defense next year and we will be good, same as with Chelsea this year. We are lucky the rest arent that great either. Though van Gaal needs to get back to his own roots, he copied this system from Koeman. Back to 4-3-3 which suits Utd.

Still, Koeman is doing a great job, imagine if he got a few more points in those december games...which he deserved.

After Valencia, Barca was lightyears away, now, I think he will be the main candidate again.

Bernstein, what refereeing decisions? We dont dive enough me thinks, you watched Kane doing his thing again yesterday?
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Luis on Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:11 pm

You're all stuck in the frame of the mind of thinking United have a great team - they have some world class players (maybe only 2 or 3 now) and a lot of average to good players. They got away with this under Mr Ferguson for reasons we all know. Van Gaal will take a couple of seasons to turn this mess around unless he buys Bale and Lahm in the summer which I think is unlikely.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Isco Benny on Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:16 pm

Luis wrote:
Fey wrote:
Luis wrote:Southampton are definitely not fucking about in this race for 3rd and 4th.

Albeit they have not the best material compared to lets say Spurs and such, but Koeman is a better coach then Poch. His teams are so organised.

I would argue the teams are fairly equal. Southampton have a better defence for a start. Pelle, Schneiderlin, Mane, Tadic are all good quality players.

I'd also put us on that level right now as well.

United and Arsenal are the better teams because they boast world class players: Sanchez, Cazorla, Di Maria, Rooney, Mata.

But then when Sturridge returns if he can show anything like his form last season we are going to have a big boost.

Going to be interesting.


Koeman's / Southampton are having a tremendous season. However, they have had no European competition to contend with.

Look at what Europe did to Laudrup's Swansea, Martinez's Everton and Rodger's Liverpool the season after they did what Southampton did, exceed expectations in the league and those managers being labelled the next Great White Hope. Only Man United in the current top 7 had the same luxury this season.

Pochettino has Spurs in the semi final of the League Cup (a competition that Koeman lost to Sheffield United), knock out stages of Europa League, just off fringes of top 4, still in FA cup. Hes not doing too badly really.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Fey on Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:22 pm

Isco Benny wrote:
Luis wrote:
Fey wrote:
Luis wrote:Southampton are definitely not fucking about in this race for 3rd and 4th.

Albeit they have not the best material compared to lets say Spurs and such, but Koeman is a better coach then Poch. His teams are so organised.

I would argue the teams are fairly equal. Southampton have a better defence for a start. Pelle, Schneiderlin, Mane, Tadic are all good quality players.

I'd also put us on that level right now as well.

United and Arsenal are the better teams because they boast world class players: Sanchez, Cazorla, Di Maria, Rooney, Mata.

But then when Sturridge returns if he can show anything like his form last season we are going to have a big boost.

Going to be interesting.


Koeman's / Southampton are having a tremendous season. However, they have had no European competition to contend with.

Look at what Europe did to Laudrup's Swansea, Martinez's Everton and Rodger's Liverpool the season after they did what Southampton did, exceed expectations in the league and those managers being labelled the next Great White Hope. Only Man United in the current top 7 had the same luxury this season.

Pochettino has Spurs in the semi final of the League Cup
(a competition that Koeman lost to Sheffield United), knock out stages of Europa League, just off fringes of top 4, still in FA cup. Hes not doing too badly really.

lol!

Fact is, Koeman was supposed to face relegation, Poch is supposed to fail for 4th place.

Thats a massive difference. Now, I agree, EPL/English players are overrated, and of course he shouldnt fight relegation with this squad, but this is what many English pundits thought.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Isco Benny on Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:40 pm

Fey wrote:
Isco Benny wrote:
Luis wrote:
Fey wrote:
Luis wrote:Southampton are definitely not fucking about in this race for 3rd and 4th.

Albeit they have not the best material compared to lets say Spurs and such, but Koeman is a better coach then Poch. His teams are so organised.

I would argue the teams are fairly equal. Southampton have a better defence for a start. Pelle, Schneiderlin, Mane, Tadic are all good quality players.

I'd also put us on that level right now as well.

United and Arsenal are the better teams because they boast world class players: Sanchez, Cazorla, Di Maria, Rooney, Mata.

But then when Sturridge returns if he can show anything like his form last season we are going to have a big boost.

Going to be interesting.




Koeman's / Southampton are having a tremendous season. However, they have had no European competition to contend with.

Look at what Europe did to Laudrup's Swansea, Martinez's Everton and Rodger's Liverpool the season after they did what Southampton did, exceed expectations in the league and those managers being labelled the next Great White Hope. Only Man United in the current top 7 had the same luxury this season.

Pochettino has Spurs in the semi final of the League Cup
(a competition that Koeman lost to Sheffield United), knock out stages of Europa League, just off fringes of top 4, still in FA cup. Hes not doing too badly really.

lol!

Fact is, Koeman was supposed to face relegation, Poch is supposed to fail for 4th place.

Thats a massive difference. Now, I agree, EPL/English players are overrated, and of course he shouldnt fight relegation with this squad, but this is what many English pundits thought.

You mean like this:

Robin Van Persie
Games 20
Goals 8
Assists 2

Harry Kane
Games 11
Goals 8
Assists 2

HSWHW lol!


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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Puro on Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:40 pm

Talksport is fun right now! Laugh Ale
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Fey on Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:09 pm

Isco Benny wrote:
Fey wrote:
Isco Benny wrote:
Luis wrote:
Fey wrote:
Luis wrote:Southampton are definitely not fucking about in this race for 3rd and 4th.

Albeit they have not the best material compared to lets say Spurs and such, but Koeman is a better coach then Poch. His teams are so organised.

I would argue the teams are fairly equal. Southampton have a better defence for a start. Pelle, Schneiderlin, Mane, Tadic are all good quality players.

I'd also put us on that level right now as well.

United and Arsenal are the better teams because they boast world class players: Sanchez, Cazorla, Di Maria, Rooney, Mata.

But then when Sturridge returns if he can show anything like his form last season we are going to have a big boost.

Going to be interesting.




Koeman's / Southampton are having a tremendous season. However, they have had no European competition to contend with.

Look at what Europe did to Laudrup's Swansea, Martinez's Everton and Rodger's Liverpool the season after they did what Southampton did, exceed expectations in the league and those managers being labelled the next Great White Hope. Only Man United in the current top 7 had the same luxury this season.

Pochettino has Spurs in the semi final of the League Cup
(a competition that Koeman lost to Sheffield United), knock out stages of Europa League, just off fringes of top 4, still in FA cup. Hes not doing too badly really.

lol!

Fact is, Koeman was supposed to face relegation, Poch is supposed to fail for 4th place.

Thats a massive difference. Now, I agree, EPL/English players are overrated, and of course he shouldnt fight relegation with this squad, but this is what many English pundits thought.

You mean like this:

Robin Van Persie
Games 20
Goals 8
Assists 2

Harry Kane
Games 11
Goals 8
Assists 2

HSWHW lol!



Not bad considering we are at the bottom when it comes to creating chances.

Sure, HSWHW, can create something, unlike feckin 'Arry Kane, and isnt just a mere poacher.

Not bad at all.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Puro on Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:42 pm

But what a poacher he is, eh! Biggrin

Also just because your fellow zionists in the media thought that Southampton were gonna struggle doesn't mean so. When I saw the players coming in to replace the ones who were leaving I thought Southampton would be just fine. Only the zionists in the media were saying it was doom and gloom for Southampton.

Bertrand is much better than Shaw.
Alderweireld/Gardos/Yoshida are no worse than Lovren. Fonte is that good!
Pelle is a lot better than Lambert
Tadic is way better than Lallana
Forster edges Boruc
Man is better than Rodrguez, just.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Isco Benny on Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:45 pm

Fey wrote:
Isco Benny wrote:
Fey wrote:
Isco Benny wrote:
Luis wrote:
Fey wrote:
Luis wrote:Southampton are definitely not fucking about in this race for 3rd and 4th.

Albeit they have not the best material compared to lets say Spurs and such, but Koeman is a better coach then Poch. His teams are so organised.

I would argue the teams are fairly equal. Southampton have a better defence for a start. Pelle, Schneiderlin, Mane, Tadic are all good quality players.

I'd also put us on that level right now as well.

United and Arsenal are the better teams because they boast world class players: Sanchez, Cazorla, Di Maria, Rooney, Mata.

But then when Sturridge returns if he can show anything like his form last season we are going to have a big boost.

Going to be interesting.




Koeman's / Southampton are having a tremendous season. However, they have had no European competition to contend with.

Look at what Europe did to Laudrup's Swansea, Martinez's Everton and Rodger's Liverpool the season after they did what Southampton did, exceed expectations in the league and those managers being labelled the next Great White Hope. Only Man United in the current top 7 had the same luxury this season.

Pochettino has Spurs in the semi final of the League Cup
(a competition that Koeman lost to Sheffield United), knock out stages of Europa League, just off fringes of top 4, still in FA cup. Hes not doing too badly really.

lol!

Fact is, Koeman was supposed to face relegation, Poch is supposed to fail for 4th place.

Thats a massive difference. Now, I agree, EPL/English players are overrated, and of course he shouldnt fight relegation with this squad, but this is what many English pundits thought.

You mean like this:

Robin Van Persie
Games 20
Goals 8
Assists 2

Harry Kane
Games 11
Goals 8
Assists 2

HSWHW lol!



Not bad considering we are at the bottom when it comes to creating chances.

Sure, HSWHW, can create something, unlike feckin 'Arry Kane, and isnt just a mere poacher.

Not bad at all.

Mere goal poacher you say? *sips tea*

Considering 5 of Kane's 18 goals (1/4) have been from outside the area ( considerably more than real goal poacher poster boys like Hernandez / Soldado / Owen have ever managed in a season ), you clearly dont understand what a goal poacher is.

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/tactics-and-analysis/67/post/2229241/tactics-board-how-has-harry-kane-had-such-an-impact-for-spurs

I appreciate you watch games on teletext so have no clue as to what you are talking about
So why not let the actual tv evidence educate you.



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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Brian 2468 on Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:30 pm

Gaal will ruin players before it gets better Di Maria is best banging away at the same plot wearing down the right back until defensively cracks appear in the back line. The man is more stuck on himself than couple of horny flies on fly paper.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Super Progress on Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:32 pm

I really had no hopes for Southampton and it is rare that a small club can sell so many good players and lose their coach and then get better when their transfers didn't seem all that and nor did their coach(outside of Holland). Very impressed with what Koeman has done and I had particularly low opinion of him before. With that said I think coaching Tottenham is a hard job because I have seen managers try for 10 years to get them that 4th position and they all fail. It is as if there is something institutionally built in that makes it impossible not to choke or underperform no matter their actual quality. I would definitly go all out for Capital One cup in order to create some sort of winning mentality.
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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Fey on Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:26 pm

Brian 2468 wrote:Gaal will ruin players before it gets better Di Maria is best banging away at the same plot wearing down the right back until defensively cracks appear in the back line. The man is more stuck on himself than couple of horny flies on fly paper.

Yeah well, no shots on goal, and the footy is pretty shite for the entire season already.

And that with:

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Re: Premier League 10/11 January 2015

Post by Kimbo on Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:54 pm

van Gaal has been so disappointing, he's so tame in interviews, wtf is wrong with him?

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