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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by bluenine on Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:19 pm

Murray wrote:You've jumped the gun again, bluenine. Imbula to Inter isn't done yet.

According to sauces, it was 99% done. Anyways, I have deleted it for now because of the latest agent comments... looks like Inter have reduced their offer.

I "jump the gun" on almost every transfer above. As long as I get it right 8-9 times out of 10....
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by bluenine on Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:06 pm

Latest Updates: Montoya to Inter (€8m), Bertolacci to Milan (€20m), Ilicic to Bologna (€7m), Bacca to Milan (€30m), Berardi fully ownded by Sassuolo (€10m), Nainggolan fully owned by Roma (€14m), Bertolacci to Roma (€8.5m), Kondogbia to Inter (€35m).

Top 10 Transfers so far:
1. Dybala to Juve (€40m)
2. Kondogbia to Inter (€35m)
3. Bacca to Milan (€30m)
4. Nainggolan f.o. Roma (€14m for half)
5. Bertolacci to Milan (€20m)
6. Berardi f.o. Sassuolo (€10m for half)
7. Mandzukic to Juve (€19m)
8. Bertolacci f.o. Roma (€8.5m for half)
9. Miranda to Inter (€15m)
10. Murillo to Inter (€8m)

Transfers rumours in orange.
l = Loan
c = Co-Own
lr = loan return
lp = loan + obligatory purchase
fo = Full ownership
[] = coach


INTER
IN: Montoya (lp), Kondogbia, Murillo, Miranda, Cuadrado (l), Mertens, Lucas, Suarez, Imbula (lp), Song, Jovetic (l), Zukanovic, Perisic, Duda, Eder, Motta
OUT: Benassi,  Bianchetti (l), Campagnero, Alvarez, MBaye, Jonathan, Santon, Guarin, Kuzmanovic, Pereira, Kovacic, Schelotto, Handanovic, Andreolli, Nagatomo,

MILAN
IN: Bertolacci, Bacca, Matri (lr), Verdi (fo), Ely, Niang (lr), [Mihajlovic], Romagnoli, Witsel, Jovetic (l), Salah (l), M. Suarez, Ibrahmovic, Luiz Adriano
OUT:  Pazzini, Essien, [Inzaghi], Birsa, Muntari, Bonera, Zaccardo, Rami, El Sharaawy


JUVENTUS
IN: Dybala, Mandzukic, Khedira, Vadala, Rugani (lr), Benatia, Abdennour, Saponara, Jovetic, Dzeko, Oscar, Lulic, Zaza, Fabinho, Calleri
OUT: Matri (lr), Romulo (lr), Pepe, Tevez, Berardi (fo),  Ogbonna, Pogba/Vidal, De Ceglie, Llorente, Storari

ROMA
IN: Nainggolan (fo), Paredes, Romagnoli (lr), Romero, Diaz, Van der Wiel, Bacca, Boateng, Nani, Dzeko, Falque, M'Poku, Luiz Adriano
OUT: Bertolacci, Destro, Holebas, Viviani, Pjanic, Strootman, Balzaretti

LAZIO
IN: Patric, Hoedt, Morrison, Gabarron, Huntelaar, Guidetti, Borini, Hernandez, Pato
OUT: Novaretti, Biglia, Anderson, Lulic, Onazi, Ciani, Ledesma

NAPOLI
IN: Jorginho (fo), Reina, Valdifiori, Vargas (lr), [Sarri], Vrsaljko, Immobile, Hysaj, Saponara, Dembele,
OUT: [Benitez], Albiol, Mertens, Zuniga, Zapata, Inler, Higuain, Insigne, Britos, Colombo

FIORENTINA
IN: [Sousa], Donati, Inler, Pazzini, Paloschi, Mauri, Pinto, Meyer, Criscito, Pato
OUT:  Ilicic, Aquilani, De Silvestri (fo), Neto, [Montella], Bernardeschi (l), Lazzari, Pizzaro, Roncaglia,

*Only select loan deals / youngsters mentioned here.
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by Murray on Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:41 pm

Milan have finally got rid of Muntari
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by Pras_tama on Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:22 pm

Murray wrote:Milan have finally got rid of Muntari

And Bonera
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by Murray on Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:03 pm

Pras_tama wrote:
Murray wrote:Milan have finally got rid of Muntari

And Bonera

And Rami.

Mexes is still there though.

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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by shizzle787 on Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:04 pm

It looks like Neto is going to Juventus, and Storari is going to Cagliari. http://football-italia.net/68585/storari-out-neto
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by Murray on Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:18 pm

Latest Updates: Montoya to Inter (€8m), Bertolacci to Milan (€20m), Ilicic to Bologna (€7m), Bacca to Milan (€30m), Berardi fully ownded by Sassuolo (€10m), Nainggolan fully owned by Roma (€14m), Bertolacci to Roma (€8.5m), Kondogbia to Inter (€35m).

Top 10 Transfers so far:
1. Dybala to Juve (€40m)
2. Kondogbia to Inter (€35m)
3. Bacca to Milan (€30m)
4. Nainggolan f.o. Roma (€14m for half)
5. Bertolacci to Milan (€20m)
6. Berardi f.o. Sassuolo (€10m for half)
7. Mandzukic to Juve (€19m)
8. Bertolacci f.o. Roma (€8.5m for half)
9. Miranda to Inter (€15m)
10. Murillo to Inter (€8m)

Transfers rumours in blue.
l = Loan
c = Co-Own
lr = loan return
lp = loan + obligatory purchase
fo = Full ownership
[] = coach


INTER
IN: Montoya (lp), Kondogbia, Murillo, Miranda, Cuadrado (l), Mertens, Lucas, Suarez, Song, Jovetic (l), Zukanovic, Perisic, Duda, Eder, Motta
OUT: Benassi,  Bianchetti (l), Campagnero, Alvarez, MBaye, Jonathan, Obi, Santon, Guarin, Kuzmanovic, Pereira, Kovacic, Schelotto, Handanovic, Andreolli, Nagatomo,

MILAN
IN: Bertolacci, Bacca, Matri (lr), Verdi (fo), Ely, Niang (lr), [Mihajlovic], Romagnoli, Witsel, Jovetic (l), Salah (l), M. Suarez, Ibrahmovic, Luiz Adriano
OUT:  Pazzini, Essien, [Inzaghi], Birsa, Muntari, Bonera, Rami, Zaccardo, El Sharaawy


JUVENTUS
IN: Dybala, Mandzukic, Khedira, Vadala, Rugani (lr), Benatia, Abdennour, Saponara, Jovetic, Dzeko, Oscar, Lulic, Zaza, Fabinho, Calleri
OUT: Matri (lr), Romulo (lr), Pepe, Tevez, Berardi (fo),  Ogbonna, Pogba/Vidal, De Ceglie, Llorente, Storari

ROMA
IN: Nainggolan (fo), Paredes, Romagnoli (lr), Falque, Romero, Diaz, Van der Wiel, Bacca, Boateng, Nani, Dzeko, M'Poku, Luiz Adriano
OUT: Bertolacci, Destro, Holebas, Viviani, Pjanic, Strootman, Balzaretti

LAZIO
IN: Patric, Hoedt, Morrison, Gabarron, Huntelaar, Guidetti, Borini, Hernandez, Pato
OUT: Novaretti, Biglia, Anderson, Lulic, Onazi, Ciani, Ledesma

NAPOLI
IN: Jorginho (fo), Reina, Valdifiori, Vargas (lr), [Sarri], Vrsaljko, Immobile, Hysaj, Saponara, Dembele
OUT: [Benitez], Albiol, Mertens, Zuniga, Zapata, Inler, Higuain, Insigne, Britos, Colombo

FIORENTINA
IN: [Sousa], Donati, Inler, Pazzini, Paloschi, Mauri, Pinto, Meyer, Criscito, Pato
OUT:  Ilicic, Aquilani, De Silvestri (fo), Neto, [Montella], Bernardeschi (l), Lazzari, Pizzaro, Roncaglia

*Only select loan deals / youngsters mentioned here.
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by bluenine on Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:59 pm

Latest Updates: Ogbonna to West Ham (€12m), Salah loan ends, Zaza to Juve (€18m), Ibarbo to Roma (€5m+€8m), Neto to Juve (free), Luiz Adriano to Milan (€8m), Falque to Roma (€9m), Montoya to Inter (€8m), Bertolacci to Milan (€20m), Bacca to Milan (€30m), Kondogbia to Inter (€35m).

Top 10 Transfers so far:
1. Dybala to Juve (€40m)
2. Kondogbia to Inter (€35m)
3. Bacca to Milan (€30m)
4. Nainggolan f.o. Roma (€14m for half)
5. Bertolacci to Milan (€20m)
6. Berardi f.o. Sassuolo (€10m for half)
7. Mandzukic to Juve (€19m)
8. Zaza to Juventus (€18m)
9. Bertolacci f.o. Roma (€8.5m for half)
10. Miranda to Inter (€15m)


Transfers rumours in orange.
l = Loan
c = Co-Own
lr = loan return
lp = loan + obligatory purchase
fo = Full ownership
[] = coach


INTER
IN: Montoya (lp), Kondogbia, Murillo, Miranda, Lamela, Moutinho, Cuadrado (l), Mertens, Lucas, Suarez, Imbula (lp), Song, Jovetic (l), Zukanovic, Perisic, Duda, Motta, Biabiany
OUT: Botta, Obi, Kuzmanovic, Benassi, Bianchetti (l), Campagnero, Alvarez, MBaye, Jonathan, Juan, Vidic, Shaqiri, Santon, Guarin, Pereira, Kovacic, Schelotto, Handanovic, Andreolli, Nagatomo,

MILAN
IN: Adriano, Mauri, Bertolacci, Bacca, Matri (lr), Verdi (fo), Ely, Niang (lr), [Mihajlovic], Romagnoli, Witsel, Jovetic (l), Salah (l), Suarez, Ibrahimovic
OUT: Rami, Bonera, Muntari, Pazzini, Essien, [Inzaghi], Birsa, Mastour, Zaccardo, El Sharaawy, Abbiati

JUVENTUS
IN: Zaza, Neto, Dybala, Mandzukic, Khedira, Vadala, Rugani (lr), Gerson, Nastasic, Abdennour, Dzeko, Oscar
OUT: Ogbonna, Pirlo, Storari, Matri (lr), Romulo (lr), Pepe, Tevez, Berardi (fo), Pogba/Vidal, Isla, De Ceglie, Llorente

ROMA
IN: Ibarbo (l), Falque, Nainggolan (fo), Paredes, Romagnoli (lr), Peres, Mitrovic, Salah, Romero, Diaz, Van der Wiel, Boateng, Dzeko
OUT: Holebas, Viviani, Bertolacci, Destro, Pjanic, Strootman, Balzaretti

LAZIO
IN: Patric, Hoedt, Morrison, Gabarron, Milinkovic-Savic, Borini, Huntelaar, Guidetti, Borini, Hernandez, Pato
OUT: Ledesma, Novaretti, Biglia, Anderson, Lulic, Onazi, Ciani, Ledesma

NAPOLI
IN: Jorginho (fo), Reina, Valdifiori, Vargas (lr), [Sarri], Astori, Allan, Guarin, Vrsaljko, Immobile, Hysaj, Saponara,
OUT: Gargano, [Benitez], Ghoulam, Albiol, Mertens, Zuniga, Zapata, Inler, Higuain, Insigne, Britos, Colombo

FIORENTINA
IN: [Sousa], Lucas Silva, Walace, Muntari, Donati, Inler, Pazzini, Paloschi, Pinto, Meyer, Criscito, Pato
OUT: Pizarro, Salah (lr), Aquilani, De Silvestri (fo), Neto, [Montella], Ilicic, Bernardeschi (l), Lazzari, Roncaglia,

*Only select loan deals / youngsters mentioned here.


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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by Guest on Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:36 pm

Luiz Adriano and Bacca will be a cool partnership.
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by bluenine on Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:48 pm

Messi from La Masia wrote:Luiz Adriano and Bacca will be a cool partnership.

Maybe. But it does have a "not-our-first-choice" look to it Razz
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by Murray on Sat Jul 04, 2015 4:41 pm

bluenine wrote:
Messi from La Masia wrote:Luiz Adriano and Bacca will be a cool partnership.

Maybe. But it does have a "not-our-first-choice" look to it Razz

Isn't Bacca just as good as Jackson Martinez? I don't see much difference between them.
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! on Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:22 pm

J. Martinez had box-office draw. Bacca doesn't. But the latter maybe more useful to us depending on how we complete the team.  I am fairly satisfied at how we have conducted business so far. We're also interested in and buying young promising Italian talent.  Sure, we may have been pipped to the Kondo signing by Inter and their monopoly money, but hey, life goes on.  Smile  


In other news

Inter make people dyspeptic:

http://football-italia.net/68735/imbula-inter-made-threats

Giannelli Imbula’s father said Inter “make me want to throw up” after the midfielder joined Porto. “They sent threats.”

but they are so "puliti"

http://football-italia.net/68731/inter-should-be-relegated-over-salah

Fiorentina Vice-President Paolo Panerai said “Inter should be relegated” for trying to poach Mohamed Salah.
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by Pras_tama on Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:37 pm

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:J. Martinez had box-office draw. Bacca doesn't. But the latter maybe more useful to us depending on how we complete the team.  I am fairly satisfied at how we have conducted business so far. We're also interested in and buying young promising Italian talent.  Sure, we may have been pipped to the Kondo signing by Inter and their monopoly money, but hey, life goes on.  Smile  


In other news

Inter make people dyspeptic:

http://football-italia.net/68735/imbula-inter-made-threats

Giannelli Imbula’s father said Inter “make me want to throw up” after the midfielder joined Porto. “They sent threats.”

but they are so "puliti"

http://football-italia.net/68731/inter-should-be-relegated-over-salah

Fiorentina Vice-President Paolo Panerai said “Inter should be relegated” for trying to poach Mohamed Salah.

We still need CB

And what is it with Menez-selling rumor?
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by bluenine on Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:36 pm

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:J. Martinez had box-office draw. Bacca doesn't. But the latter maybe more useful to us depending on how we complete the team.  I am fairly satisfied at how we have conducted business so far. We're also interested in and buying young promising Italian talent.  Sure, we may have been pipped to the Kondo signing by Inter and their monopoly money, but hey, life goes on.  Smile  


In other news

Inter make people dyspeptic:

http://football-italia.net/68735/imbula-inter-made-threats

Giannelli Imbula’s father said Inter “make me want to throw up” after the midfielder joined Porto. “They sent threats.”

but they are so "puliti"

http://football-italia.net/68731/inter-should-be-relegated-over-salah

Fiorentina Vice-President Paolo Panerai said “Inter should be relegated” for trying to poach Mohamed Salah.

Razz

I am glad Inter are starting to piss off a few people in the transfer market... probably a sign that finally we are not the gullible idiots that everyone took advantage of in calcio mercato. I hear Inter are closing deals for Jovetic, Perisic/Salah/Pedro, Zukanovic, and Motta/Suarez. This might become our bit mercato since the treble.

Also good to see Milan getting a go ahead for a new stadium, a step in the right direction for Italian football. It also means that Inter will have the chance to own the San Siro, and modernise it. Inter and Milan owning their own stadiums is exactly what these clubs need to compete with European clubs.
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by Murray on Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:35 pm

bluenine wrote:
Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:J. Martinez had box-office draw. Bacca doesn't. But the latter maybe more useful to us depending on how we complete the team.  I am fairly satisfied at how we have conducted business so far. We're also interested in and buying young promising Italian talent.  Sure, we may have been pipped to the Kondo signing by Inter and their monopoly money, but hey, life goes on.  Smile  


In other news

Inter make people dyspeptic:

http://football-italia.net/68735/imbula-inter-made-threats

Giannelli Imbula’s father said Inter “make me want to throw up” after the midfielder joined Porto. “They sent threats.”

but they are so "puliti"

http://football-italia.net/68731/inter-should-be-relegated-over-salah

Fiorentina Vice-President Paolo Panerai said “Inter should be relegated” for trying to poach Mohamed Salah.

Razz

I am glad Inter are starting to piss off a few people in the transfer market... probably a sign that finally we are not the gullible idiots that everyone took advantage of in calcio mercato. I hear Inter are closing deals for Jovetic, Perisic/Salah/Pedro, Zukanovic, and Motta/Suarez. This might become our bit mercato since the treble.

Also good to see Milan getting a go ahead for a new stadium, a step in the right direction for Italian football. It also means that Inter will have the chance to own the San Siro, and modernise it. Inter and Milan owning their own stadiums is exactly what these clubs need to compete with European clubs.

Milan are making a mistake with their new stadium, 48000 is far too small to compete with clubs like Real & Barca.
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by bluenine on Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:49 am

Murray wrote:
bluenine wrote:
Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:J. Martinez had box-office draw. Bacca doesn't. But the latter maybe more useful to us depending on how we complete the team.  I am fairly satisfied at how we have conducted business so far. We're also interested in and buying young promising Italian talent.  Sure, we may have been pipped to the Kondo signing by Inter and their monopoly money, but hey, life goes on.  Smile  


In other news

Inter make people dyspeptic:

http://football-italia.net/68735/imbula-inter-made-threats

Giannelli Imbula’s father said Inter “make me want to throw up” after the midfielder joined Porto. “They sent threats.”

but they are so "puliti"

http://football-italia.net/68731/inter-should-be-relegated-over-salah

Fiorentina Vice-President Paolo Panerai said “Inter should be relegated” for trying to poach Mohamed Salah.

Razz

I am glad Inter are starting to piss off a few people in the transfer market... probably a sign that finally we are not the gullible idiots that everyone took advantage of in calcio mercato. I hear Inter are closing deals for Jovetic, Perisic/Salah/Pedro, Zukanovic, and Motta/Suarez. This might become our bit mercato since the treble.

Also good to see Milan getting a go ahead for a new stadium, a step in the right direction for Italian football. It also means that Inter will have the chance to own the San Siro, and modernise it. Inter and Milan owning their own stadiums is exactly what these clubs need to compete with European clubs.

Milan are making a mistake with their new stadium, 48000 is far too small to compete with clubs like Real & Barca.

Number of seats means little, its the value that counts. Since that number is around the average attendance for Milan, I guess the attempt is to drive demand and prices up. This new stadium is estimated to increase Milan's revenues by 50-80m pa, that is a good start.
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by Murray on Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:05 am

bluenine wrote:
Murray wrote:
bluenine wrote:
Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:J. Martinez had box-office draw. Bacca doesn't. But the latter maybe more useful to us depending on how we complete the team.  I am fairly satisfied at how we have conducted business so far. We're also interested in and buying young promising Italian talent.  Sure, we may have been pipped to the Kondo signing by Inter and their monopoly money, but hey, life goes on.  Smile  


In other news

Inter make people dyspeptic:

http://football-italia.net/68735/imbula-inter-made-threats

Giannelli Imbula’s father said Inter “make me want to throw up” after the midfielder joined Porto. “They sent threats.”

but they are so "puliti"

http://football-italia.net/68731/inter-should-be-relegated-over-salah

Fiorentina Vice-President Paolo Panerai said “Inter should be relegated” for trying to poach Mohamed Salah.

Razz

I am glad Inter are starting to piss off a few people in the transfer market... probably a sign that finally we are not the gullible idiots that everyone took advantage of in calcio mercato. I hear Inter are closing deals for Jovetic, Perisic/Salah/Pedro, Zukanovic, and Motta/Suarez. This might become our bit mercato since the treble.

Also good to see Milan getting a go ahead for a new stadium, a step in the right direction for Italian football. It also means that Inter will have the chance to own the San Siro, and modernise it. Inter and Milan owning their own stadiums is exactly what these clubs need to compete with European clubs.

Milan are making a mistake with their new stadium, 48000 is far too small to compete with clubs like Real & Barca.

Number of seats means little, its the value that counts. Since that number is around the average attendance for Milan, I guess the attempt is to drive demand and prices up. This new stadium is estimated to increase Milan's revenues by 50-80m pa, that is a good start.

It might be a good start but then what?

Real and Barca's turnover is about double that of Milan, another €50-80 million won't make a significant difference.
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by bluenine on Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:26 pm

Murray wrote:
bluenine wrote:
Murray wrote:
bluenine wrote:
Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:J. Martinez had box-office draw. Bacca doesn't. But the latter maybe more useful to us depending on how we complete the team.  I am fairly satisfied at how we have conducted business so far. We're also interested in and buying young promising Italian talent.  Sure, we may have been pipped to the Kondo signing by Inter and their monopoly money, but hey, life goes on.  Smile  


In other news

Inter make people dyspeptic:

http://football-italia.net/68735/imbula-inter-made-threats

Giannelli Imbula’s father said Inter “make me want to throw up” after the midfielder joined Porto. “They sent threats.”

but they are so "puliti"

http://football-italia.net/68731/inter-should-be-relegated-over-salah

Fiorentina Vice-President Paolo Panerai said “Inter should be relegated” for trying to poach Mohamed Salah.

Razz

I am glad Inter are starting to piss off a few people in the transfer market... probably a sign that finally we are not the gullible idiots that everyone took advantage of in calcio mercato. I hear Inter are closing deals for Jovetic, Perisic/Salah/Pedro, Zukanovic, and Motta/Suarez. This might become our bit mercato since the treble.

Also good to see Milan getting a go ahead for a new stadium, a step in the right direction for Italian football. It also means that Inter will have the chance to own the San Siro, and modernise it. Inter and Milan owning their own stadiums is exactly what these clubs need to compete with European clubs.

Milan are making a mistake with their new stadium, 48000 is far too small to compete with clubs like Real & Barca.

Number of seats means little, its the value that counts. Since that number is around the average attendance for Milan, I guess the attempt is to drive demand and prices up. This new stadium is estimated to increase Milan's revenues by 50-80m pa, that is a good start.

It might be a good start but then what?

Real and Barca's turnover is about double that of Milan, another €50-80 million won't make a significant difference.  

I understand what you are saying, mate. Two points:

1. I think for Milan & Inter, competing with Barca and Real is a pipe dream at the moment... lets first get to a point where they can complete with the Liverpools and the Arsenals...

2. 50k seats or 80k seats does not mean much in terms of revenue. Its about how many premium seats you have. I am sure Milan's new stadium will have at least as many premium seats as Real or Barca if not more... thats where modern stadiums make big money.
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by Murray on Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:15 pm

bluenine wrote:
Murray wrote:
bluenine wrote:
Murray wrote:
bluenine wrote:
Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:J. Martinez had box-office draw. Bacca doesn't. But the latter maybe more useful to us depending on how we complete the team.  I am fairly satisfied at how we have conducted business so far. We're also interested in and buying young promising Italian talent.  Sure, we may have been pipped to the Kondo signing by Inter and their monopoly money, but hey, life goes on.  Smile  


In other news

Inter make people dyspeptic:

http://football-italia.net/68735/imbula-inter-made-threats

Giannelli Imbula’s father said Inter “make me want to throw up” after the midfielder joined Porto. “They sent threats.”

but they are so "puliti"

http://football-italia.net/68731/inter-should-be-relegated-over-salah

Fiorentina Vice-President Paolo Panerai said “Inter should be relegated” for trying to poach Mohamed Salah.

Razz

I am glad Inter are starting to piss off a few people in the transfer market... probably a sign that finally we are not the gullible idiots that everyone took advantage of in calcio mercato. I hear Inter are closing deals for Jovetic, Perisic/Salah/Pedro, Zukanovic, and Motta/Suarez. This might become our bit mercato since the treble.

Also good to see Milan getting a go ahead for a new stadium, a step in the right direction for Italian football. It also means that Inter will have the chance to own the San Siro, and modernise it. Inter and Milan owning their own stadiums is exactly what these clubs need to compete with European clubs.

Milan are making a mistake with their new stadium, 48000 is far too small to compete with clubs like Real & Barca.

Number of seats means little, its the value that counts. Since that number is around the average attendance for Milan, I guess the attempt is to drive demand and prices up. This new stadium is estimated to increase Milan's revenues by 50-80m pa, that is a good start.

It might be a good start but then what?

Real and Barca's turnover is about double that of Milan, another €50-80 million won't make a significant difference.  

I understand what you are saying, mate. Two points:

1. I think for Milan & Inter, competing with Barca and Real is a pipe dream at the moment... lets first get to a point where they can complete with the Liverpools and the Arsenals...

2. 50k seats or 80k seats does not mean much in terms of revenue. Its about how many premium seats you have. I am sure Milan's new stadium will have at least as many premium seats as Real or Barca if not more... thats where modern stadiums make big money.

It shouldn't be a pipe dream for the Milan clubs to compete with Real & Barca. Go back 10-15 years and they all had a similar turnover. There is no reason why that couldn't happen again.
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by bluenine on Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:26 pm

Latest Updates: Vidal to Bayern (€40m), Perisic to Inter (tbc), Shaqiri to Schalke (tbc), El Sharaawy to Monaco (€16m), Sorensen to Koln (€2.5m), Astori to Napoli (€6m), Biabiany to Inter (free), Ogbonna to West Ham (€11m), Zaza to Juve (€18m), Luiz Adriano to Milan (€8m), Falque to Roma (€9m), Bertolacci to Milan (€20m).

Top 10 Transfers so far:
1. Dybala to Juve (€40m)
2. Kondogbia to Inter (€35m)
3. Bacca to Milan (€30m)
4. Nainggolan f.o. Roma (€14m for half)
5. Bertolacci to Milan (€20m)
6. Berardi f.o. Sassuolo (€10m for half)
7. Mandzukic to Juve (€19m)
8. Zaza to Juventus (€18m)
9. Bertolacci f.o. Roma (€8.5m for half)
10. Miranda to Inter (€15m)

Transfers rumours in orange.
l = Loan
c = Co-Own
lr = loan return
lp = loan + obligatory purchase
fo = Full ownership
tbc = to be confirmed
[] = coach


INTER
IN: Perisic (tbc), Biabiany, Montoya (lp), Kondogbia, Murillo, Miranda, Lamela, Cuadrado (l), Mertens, Salah (l), Lucas, Suarez, Jovetic (l), Duda, Motta
OUT: Shaqiri (tbc), Crisetig (lp), Silvestre, Botta, Obi, Kuzmanovic, Benassi, Bianchetti (l), Campagnero, Felipe, Alvarez, MBaye, Jonathan, Taider, Krhin, Schelotto, Juan, Vidic, Santon, Guarin, Pereira, Kovacic, Andreolli, Nagatomo,

MILAN
IN: Adriano, J Mauri, Bertolacci, Bacca, Matri (lr), Verdi (fo), Ely, Niang (lr), Nocerino (lr), [Mihajlovic], Maksimovic, Romagnoli, Jovetic (l), Salah (l), Suarez, Ibrahimovic
OUT: El Sharaawy, Rami, Gabriel (l), Bonera, Muntari, Pazzini, Essien, Bocchetti (lr), Destro (lr), Van Ginkel (lr), [Inzaghi], Birsa, Matri, Mastour, Zaccardo

JUVENTUS
IN: Cerri, Zaza, Neto, Dybala, Mandzukic, Khedira, Vadala, Isla (lr), Rugani (lr), Sørensen (lr), Bouy (lr), Pasquato (lr), Draxler, Cuadrado, Gerson, Dzeko, Oscar
OUT: Vidal, Sorensen, Marrone (l), Ogbonna, Pirlo, Storari, Matri (lr), Romulo (lr), Rubinho, Pepe, Tevez, Berardi (fo), Pogba, Isla, De Ceglie, Llorente

ROMA
IN: Ibarbo (l), Falque, Nainggolan (fo), Paredes, Romagnoli (lr), Destro (lr), Marquinho (lr), Rafael, Manquillo, Peres, Salah, Romero, Diaz, Van der Wiel, Dzeko
OUT: Holebas, Viviani, Bertolacci, Balzaretti, Curci, Destro, Pjanic, Strootman

LAZIO
IN: Patric, Hoedt, Morrison, Gabarron, González (lr), Vlaar, Kishna, Pritchard, Milinkovic-Savic, Huntelaar, Guidetti, Borini, Pato
OUT: Cavanda, Mauri, Ledesma, Novaretti, Sculli, Ciani, Biglia, Anderson, Lulic, Onazi,

NAPOLI
IN: Gabriel (l), Astori, Jorginho (fo), Reina, Valdifiori, Vargas (lr), El Kaddouri (lr), [Sarri], Allan, Guarin, Vrsaljko, Hysaj, Saponara,
OUT: Sepe (l), Uvini (l), Gargano, [Benitez], Michu (lr), Mesto, Colombo, Ghoulam, Vargas, Albiol, Mertens, Zuniga, Zapata, Inler, Higuain, Insigne, Britos,

FIORENTINA
IN: Sepe (l), [Sousa], Roncaglia (lr), Iakovenko (lr), Destro, Loftus-Cheek (l), Rafael, Lucas Silva, Walace, Muntari, Donati, Inler, Paloschi, Meyer, Criscito, Pato
OUT: Pizarro, Salah (lr), Aquilani, De Silvestri (fo), Neto, Lazzari, Vargas, Lupatelli, El Hamdaoui, [Montella], Richards (lr), Savic, Gomez, Ilicic, Bernardeschi (l), Roncaglia,

*Only select loan deals / youngsters mentioned here.


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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by Pras_tama on Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:54 pm

Blue... Is Darmian any good?
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by bluenine on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:32 am

Pras_tama wrote:Blue... Is Darmian any good?

Very good young right back, Azzurri starter. Though I am not sure if Man Utd is the right move for him, LVG may confuse him with the constant change in 3man to 4 man defence. Damian has worked well in both formations, but IMO he is better as a fullback in a 4 man defense.
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by Pras_tama on Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:22 pm

Is he also good when playing left-back or CB?
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by bluenine on Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:11 pm

Pras_tama wrote:Is he also good when playing left-back or CB?

He is not a CB, and while he can play LB it is not his best position - you end up neutralising his crossing ability. A very competent RB though.

Maybe he will spend most of next season on the Man Utd bench so that we can buy him at half price next summer Razz
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by Pras_tama on Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:39 pm

bluenine wrote:
Pras_tama wrote:Is he also good when playing left-back or CB?

He is not a CB, and while he can play LB it is not his best position - you end up neutralising his crossing ability. A very competent RB though.

Maybe he will spend most of next season on the Man Utd bench so that we can buy him at half price next summer Razz

We're selling Rafael so Darmian will get a plenty of game time

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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by stinger on Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:47 pm

Bluenine - since I wasn't active here recently, we didn't have a chance to discuss glorious transfer saga of Ondrej Duda from Legia. It kind of soap opera which this player doesn't really deserve.
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Post by bluenine on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:43 pm

stinger wrote:Bluenine - since I wasn't active here recently, we didn't have a chance to discuss glorious transfer saga of Ondrej Duda from Legia. It kind of soap opera which this player doesn't really deserve.

I don't even know what is going on there, conflicting reports everywhere... my guess is that it is one of two things:

1. Inter Directors want Duda, but Mancio prefers other players. So they are waiting to first satisfy Mancio's requirements before finalising the Duda transfer.

2. Inter are only interested in Duda if we manage to sell off a few existing players like Shaqiri... which is looking problematic at the moment.

But all this is just speculation. I can imagine Inter have bigger priorities right now than Duda, but it is sad that the player is left hanging like this...

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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by stinger on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:19 pm

bluenine wrote:
stinger wrote:Bluenine - since I wasn't active here recently, we didn't have a chance to discuss glorious transfer saga of Ondrej Duda from Legia. It kind of soap opera which this player doesn't really deserve.

I don't even know what is going on there, conflicting reports everywhere... my guess is that it is one of two things:

1. Inter Directors want Duda, but Mancio prefers other players. So they are waiting to first satisfy Mancio's requirements before finalising the Duda transfer.

2. Inter are only interested in Duda if we manage to sell off a few existing players like Shaqiri... which is looking problematic at the moment.

But all this is just speculation. I can imagine Inter have bigger priorities right now than Duda, but it is sad that the player is left hanging like this...
To Duda credit - he wants to join Inter, but he is not making a big fuss about it, like you would expect from someone who has a chance to jump from club like Legia to club like Inter.

Legia seems to play hardball with Inter regarding money, bank guarantees, etc...

Your 1st point would pretty much means that Duda will be in doghouse from day one with Mancini, not a good position to start with a stubborn coach like him.
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Post by bluenine on Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:12 pm

stinger wrote:
bluenine wrote:
stinger wrote:Bluenine - since I wasn't active here recently, we didn't have a chance to discuss glorious transfer saga of Ondrej Duda from Legia. It kind of soap opera which this player doesn't really deserve.

I don't even know what is going on there, conflicting reports everywhere... my guess is that it is one of two things:

1. Inter Directors want Duda, but Mancio prefers other players. So they are waiting to first satisfy Mancio's requirements before finalising the Duda transfer.

2. Inter are only interested in Duda if we manage to sell off a few existing players like Shaqiri... which is looking problematic at the moment.

But all this is just speculation. I can imagine Inter have bigger priorities right now than Duda, but it is sad that the player is left hanging like this...
To Duda credit - he wants to join Inter, but he is not making a big fuss about it, like you would expect from someone who has a chance to jump from club like Legia to club like Inter.

Legia seems to play hardball with Inter regarding money, bank guarantees, etc...

Your 1st point would pretty much means that Duda will be in doghouse from day one with Mancini, not a good position to start with a stubborn coach like him.

My read is that Mancio wants proper wingers or wing forwards, while all our expensive attacking players are better in a central AM role (Kovacic, Hernanes, Shaqiri). For a long time last season, Mancini only played 1 of them, keeping the other two on the bench. I have never seen Duda play, but from what I hear, he is also an AM and not that great on the wing. So unless we get rid of one or two out of Hernanes, Shaqiri and Kovacic, Duda will pretty much warm the bench or get loaned out...
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Re: Calcio Mercato Summer 2015

Post by Murray on Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:06 pm

Latest Updates: El Shaarawy to Monaco, Astori to Napoli (€6m), Biabiany to Inter (free), Ogbonna to West Ham (€11m), Salah loan ends, Zaza to Juve (€18m), Ibarbo to Roma (€5m+€8m), Neto to Juve (free), Luiz Adriano to Milan (€8m), Falque to Roma (€9m), Montoya to Inter (€8m), Bertolacci to Milan (€20m), Bacca to Milan (€30m), Kondogbia to Inter (€35m).

Top 10 Transfers so far:
1. Dybala to Juve (€40m)
2. Kondogbia to Inter (€35m)
3. Bacca to Milan (€30m)
4. Nainggolan f.o. Roma (€14m for half)
5. Bertolacci to Milan (€20m)
6. Berardi f.o. Sassuolo (€10m for half)
7. Mandzukic to Juve (€19m)
8. Zaza to Juventus (€18m)
9. Bertolacci f.o. Roma (€8.5m for half)
10. Miranda to Inter (€15m)

Transfers rumours in orange.
l = Loan
c = Co-Own
lr = loan return
lp = loan + obligatory purchase
fo = Full ownership
[] = coach


INTER
IN: Biabiany, Montoya (lp), Kondogbia, Murillo, Miranda, Zukanovic, Lamela, Moutinho, Cuadrado (l), Mertens, Lucas, Suarez, Song, Jovetic (l), Perisic, Duda, Motta
OUT: Crisetig (lp), Botta, Obi, Kuzmanovic, Benassi,  Bianchetti (l), Campagnero, Felipe, Alvarez, MBaye, Jonathan, Schelotto, Juan, Vidic, Shaqiri, Santon, Guarin, Pereira, Kovacic, Handanovic, Andreolli, Nagatomo,

MILAN
IN: Adriano, Mauri, Bertolacci, Bacca, Matri (lr), Verdi (fo), Ely, Niang (lr), Nocerino (lr), [Mihajlovic], Romagnoli, Witsel, Jovetic (l), Salah (l), Suarez, Ibrahimovic
OUT: El Sharaawy, Rami, Gabriel (l), Bonera, Muntari, Pazzini, Essien, Bocchetti (lr), Destro (lr), Van Ginkel (lr), [Inzaghi], Birsa, Mastour, Zaccardo

JUVENTUS
IN: Zaza, Neto, Dybala, Mandzukic, Khedira, Vadala, Isla (lr), Rugani (lr), Sørensen (lr), Bouy (lr), Pasquato (lr), Gerson, Nastasic, Dzeko, Oscar
OUT: Marrone (l), Ogbonna, Pirlo, Storari, Matri (lr), Romulo (lr), Rubinho, Pepe, Tevez, Berardi (fo),  Pogba/Vidal, Isla, De Ceglie, Llorente

ROMA
IN: Ibarbo (l), Falque, Nainggolan (fo), Paredes, Romagnoli (lr), Destro (lr), Marquinho (lr),  Peres, Salah, Romero, Diaz, Van der Wiel, Boateng, Dzeko
OUT: Holebas, Viviani, Bertolacci, Balzaretti, Curci, Destro, Pjanic, Strootman

LAZIO
IN: Patric, Hoedt, Morrison, Gabarron, González (lr), Pritchard, Milinkovic-Savic, Borini, Huntelaar, Guidetti, Borini, Pato
OUT: Ledesma, Novaretti, Sculli, Ciani, Cavanda, Biglia, Anderson, Lulic, Onazi,

NAPOLI
IN: Astori, Jorginho (fo), Reina, Valdifiori, Vargas (lr), El Kaddouri (lr), [Sarri], Allan, Guarin, Vrsaljko, Immobile, Hysaj, Saponara,
OUT: Gargano, [Benitez], Michu (lr), Mesto, Colombo,  Ghoulam, Albiol, Mertens, Zuniga, Zapata, Inler, Higuain, Insigne, Britos,

FIORENTINA
IN: [Sousa], Roncaglia (lr), Iakovenko (lr), Lucas Silva, Walace, Muntari, Donati, Inler, Paloschi, Pinto, Meyer, Criscito, Pato
OUT:  Pizarro, Salah (lr), Aquilani, De Silvestri (fo), Neto, Lazzari, Vargas,  Lupatelli, El Hamdaoui, [Montella], Richards (lr), Ilicic, Bernardeschi (l), Roncaglia,

*Only select loan deals / youngsters mentioned here.

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